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I don't agree with the entire thing....

Posted By: and I'm Republican..any more questions? on 2008-10-16
In Reply to: I didn't ask how old it was, I asked - gourdpainter

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You haven't said an intelligent unpetulant thing in your entire post.
I see that you feel it necessary to point out a typographical error as a means of communication.  It isn't. One need only read this one page to get an idea of who you are. You are an angry, petulant, conspiracy theorist whose main job seems to be guard dog for this board so that not one cogent thought from anyone other than yourself and a very small group of yes men gets through.  You have succeeded.  You present to the world the exact picture of everything that is wrong with your party today and I thank you immensely for that.  I could not have exposed you any better had I tried. 
I agree the entire interview was not there.

And I truly don't understand why.  I tried to quickly find the transcript of the entire interview, but I was unable to find it.


I wish they would have posted the entire interview because Sean and Newt argued and probably for the first time did not agree.  If I remember correctly, there was even a jovial comment at the end about Newt being closer to Alan than Sean (or something to that effect).  I don't remember the exact words.  I did watch the entire interview, and I can tell you that Sean challenged Newt on points, but Newt still disagreed with him.  The gist of what Newt said was that the President just needs to start being honest with the American people about things he does. 


If I have more time later, I will search some more and see if I can find the entire interview in case you don't believe what I have told you after watching the entire interview.


I do agree, however, that the entire interview should have been there because I think his disagreement with Sean was much more interesting than his agreement with Alan.


I would agree except for one thing. sm
They are teaching our future generation.  Whether I give them power or not, and I don't, they have unlimited reign to spread their propaganda. 
That is not the same thing. While I do not agree....
with many of the arcane tax laws we have, redistribution of wealth is taking money from the private sector and directly redistributing that money to people who did not earn it. Not from the tax coffers that every american pays into. To put it more simply...say the government decides to take half of what you have and distribute it to your neighbors who don't have as much as you have. That is what Obama is talking about. Plays on class warfare...taking from the haves and giving it to the have-nots. When we pay taxes into tax coffers it is up to the government (sad to say) how that money is spent. We have control over that. Now what Obama has said he is going to do is bypass the tax and rebate system, choose which private sector company he wants to "tax," and redistribute that money directly back to people who did nothing to earn it.
I agree with you on one thing....for sure....
there are problems in BOTH parties. They have, for the most part, lost touch with us out here in Middle America. I am talking about the upper tier policymakers in the parties, the ones who REALLY run them, not the rank and file members. The Democrats dissed part of their rank and file members this week and I think they will live to regret that. The Repub hierarcy did the same thing, pushing McCain over the others when they should basically stay out of it and let the people decide. Now, if McCain is smart, he will choose a VP who is not a rote party yes person. I will wait for that.

But, BOTH parties need to clean house, and it needs to be back to what the majority of the people want, not what the upper tier of the political parties want. On EITHER side.
I agree with one thing you said. sm
You said:
We need to drop our RELIGION and DENOMINATIONS

I couldn't agree more. We need to drop religion and start thinking like rational human beings before it's too late. Stop believing in fairy tales like the bible. Revelations? Good grief. Try thinking of things in terms of facts, evidence, science, and reason instead of looking in an ancient book of fiction (the bible) and expecting it to predict the future for you.
and I will agree with you on one thing too
Actually my dad lost his job back in the 1970s but it was very difficult for him. he wanted to work longer, but the company was gone and he had no place to turn. So basically he was "retired" about 7 or 8 years before he planned. Fortunately, for him and for us, my parents had always saved well, did not spend money they didn't have and lived within their means so they were able to live fine anyway. What I will agree on is that they stood together on things the way people no longer do. When their company was asking cutbacks (which was got the union going on their strike idea in the first place) several of the younger guys were in jeopardy of losing their jobs. My dad and his three friends had worked there for 40 years, those being the jobs they took when they returned from their service in World War II. People used to stay at jobs and be happy to have them! Anyway, these four men each took a week off every month (voluntarily and without pay) in order to allow one of the younger guys to keep working and not be let go. Now that is admirable. That is how people used to treat one another. Now it's all about ME and no one else matters. That is one of the biggest problems I see today - selfishness. The whole strike issue is too ambiguous. It accomplishes nothing. The workers go on strike. if they succeed, the company gives them what they want (more money, better benefits - again, more money). Then the costs of the goods produced or service rendered goes up so the company can pay these higher salaries and increased benefit costs, and everybody pays more for the goods and services so in the end nobody came out ahead. You may have ended up with a bigger paycheck but had to pay more for the same stuff so what good did it do in the end? It was a union power play, and it hurt many,many people. Sorry, rambled on there. The outsourcing issue is a problem due to business taxation in this country, and we have one candidate who wants to increase business tax. How will that help? NOT.
At least we agree on one thing...LOL....
However....you totally miss the Joe the Plumber point. What difference does it make if he WAS a plant? I do not believe he was, but even if he WAS...this is America for the love of Pete!! Can't an American, Republican or not, ask a candidate a simple question??? No one forced Obama with a gun to his head to give a socialist answer. He did that all by his little ol' self. That goes to show that he BELIEVES that. That is what he BELIEVES. He believes in redistribution of wealth. He is a socialist. Hello. lol. :-)
I do agree with one thing you said about him...
he is intelligent. The rest of it...remains to be seen. I do not see integrity in someone who throws a 20-year relationship under the bus when it becomes a roadblock to the Presidency. Whether he has ALL the peoples' best interests at heart remains to be seen, not an established fact. As to the best and brightest in his campaign...I could not disagree more. Two of his advisors (until he also threw them under the bus) were main orchestrators of the Freddie/Fannie mess. Bring our nation to honor? That certainlyyyy remains to be seen.
The only thing I agree with you on is sm
the fact that he took over a mess. But making a bigger mess??? How did that help tell me please?

The only thing Obama is doing is sitting in Washington giving orders to print more money when there is none....something that the rest of us would go to prison for.

Obama is up there "playing president" for the next four years and making the biggest mess this country has ever seen. Then again, I guess if you are so far to the left you are pretty blind and cannot comprehend common sense.

He is making a laughing stock out of this country. He has no respect for the military. Our enemies are sitting back laughing at us
I'm sure. Who you gonna blame it on when the next attack on this country happens? It won't be Bush's fall, it will be Obamas fault for letting the guard down of this country.
The only thing I agree with you on is sm
the fact that he took over a mess. But making a bigger mess??? How did that help tell me please?

The only thing Obama is doing is sitting in Washington giving orders to print more money when there is none....something that the rest of us would go to prison for.

Obama is up there "playing president" for the next four years and making the biggest mess this country has ever seen. Then again, I guess if you are so far to the left you are pretty blind and cannot comprehend common sense.

He is making a laughing stock out of this country. He has no respect for the military. Our enemies are sitting back laughing at us
I'm sure. Who you gonna blame it on when the next attack on this country happens? It won't be Bush's fall, it will be Obamas fault for letting the guard down of this country.
The only thing I agree with you on is sm
the fact that he took over a mess. But making a bigger mess??? How did that help tell me please?

The only thing Obama is doing is sitting in Washington giving orders to print more money when there is none....something that the rest of us would go to prison for.

Obama is up there "playing president" for the next four years and making the biggest mess this country has ever seen. Then again, I guess if you are so far to the left you are pretty blind and cannot comprehend common sense.

He is making a laughing stock out of this country. He has no respect for the military. Our enemies are sitting back laughing at us
I'm sure. Who you gonna blame it on when the next attack on this country happens? It won't be Bush's fall, it will be Obamas fault for letting the guard down of this country.
I totally agree, and another thing. sm
Despite what liberals may think, Conservatives did not go to the poll and vote for liberals to express their displeaure.  They just didn't vote at all.  As you said, it was apathy.  I voted because it is something I would never consider NOT doing, but I was less than enthusiastic about some of my candidates. 
I agree. Another thing I would like to see change is.s/m
Corporations being given incentives and tax breaks to move their businesses to other countries. Workers in the United States need jobs too. I would like to see that repealed, and I hope that it is.
Hey that's the first thing you've said that I agree with
helping the situation. 
I agree with one thing....what she did was ridiculous...
inflammatory and downright stupid. She is supposed to be the leader of the house...and what she did was just plain stupid. According to the Republicans interviewed they voted no because that was what their constituents were wanting them to do in ratio of about 99 to 1. Still, when she was supposed to be a leader in a bipartisan effort, to make that silly speech right before the vote...seriously poor judgment and she is 3 heartbeats away from the Presidency.
I'll agree with you on one thing
the American people are, for the most part, ignorant sheep.
I agree...have read the same thing. nm
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I agree with one thing you said. Abortion is
definitely evil. 
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Agree. The whole thing is just sickening.
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I agree this would be a good thing if it passes....

but she should move the ethics investigation to Harry Reid next:


REID'S LAST KNOWN NATIONAL MEDIA APPEARANCE: October 18th Trying To Explain His Ethical Issues. Sen. Reid: I bought a piece of land, sold it six years later. Everything was reported. It was all transparent. (CNN's Newsroom, 10/18/06)


 


[H]arry Reid Has Been Using Campaign Donations Instead Of His Personal Money To Pay Christmas Bonuses For The Support Staff At The Ritz-Carlton ... Federal Election Law Bars Candidates From Converting Political Donations For Personal Use. (John Solomon, Reid Used Campaign Money For Christmas Bonuses At Personal Condo, The Associated Press, 10/16/06)





  • Senate Democratic Leader Harry Reid Collected A $1.1 Million Windfall On A Las Vegas Land Sale Even Though He Hadn't Personally Owned The Property For Three Years ... (John Solomon and Kathleen Hennessey, Reid Got $1 Million For Land He Hadn't Owned For 3 Years, The Associated Press, 10/11/06)




  • Harry Reid, The Senate's Top Democrat, Makes Frequent Trips To His Home State Of Nevada. Over The Past Four Years, His Bills At Caesars Palace, Mandalay Bay And Other Las Vegas Establishments Have Totaled More Than $125,000 ... (Brody Mullins, Lawmakers Tap PAC Money To Pay Wide Array Of Bills, The Wall Street Journal, 11/2/06)

That would also be a good place to start.


and you agree with ever single thing Obama says
Knock yourself out--but I prefer to think for myself. I only pick the candidate I think is best--not perfect
Here is one thing dems and pubs can agree on

We're glad its over.


Okay - back to work for me, just thought of that.


I'll agree with you - not on the crow thing
But the disturbing fact that he is surrounding himself with the Clintonites. I thought the O kept running on the platform of Change. This is not change. This is the same ol same ol. The Clinton presidency was so nauseating and so much damage was done. Even though I didn't want the O to win I at least had hopes he would bring in new people. Not the same bumbling bubble heads.


Yeah, I agree about the rebellion thing....(sm)
I was talking about Sarah herself being the example, not her daughter.  I think politicians should be held to a higher standard.  Yeah, I know that Sarah wasn't the one that got pregnant, but in this day and age that doesn't matter too much.  I think given the fact that the republican party was going to have a hard time winning the election anyway (considering the war, the economy, Bush, etc), it was just a bad choice to pick someone in that situation as a running mate.  Having said that, I'm not sure just how much, if any, that situation actually hurt the ticket.  If it did hurt the ticket then I would think that it hurt them more with pub votes more than with dems.
You did a wonderful thing, and I agree with your ultimatums, but....psm
Why do you, and many here, equate being a Democrat to be "weak, whiny, spendthrift, too soft," etc.? Personally, I agree with many of your points, and have always loved the proverb "Give a man a fish, he will eat for one day, teach him how to fish and he can feed himself all his life." But you are lumping together humanitarianism, altruism, etc., with being weak, stupid, socially backward, and perpetuating social ills, and that is not the case, or should I say, when government programs are working correctly with stringent oversight, this does not happen. I have voted Democrat because I believe in the party more than the alternative, but I am open to change, listen and watch and try to learn from each party, and am more Independent then anything. Being part of the Democratic party does not mean being a "bleeding heart liberal," and mmore than being a Republican means being totally cold, selfish, money-driven, fat cat, etc. This is all way too simplistic, and why the parties cannot communicate effectively or get anything done TOGETEHR. I am a Christian, I am very conservative on most social issues, but I am a human, humans are complex, and I am also socially conscious and aware, love the nation, love its people. Please, don't generalize quite so much, it is not good for the country to increase divisions.
I agree that a phased withdrawal would be a good thing...
after we have given the surge every opportunity to work and have given the Iraqis every opportunity to step up and take over security of their own country. We cannot afford to leave too quickly and allow AL Qaeda to take it over and use it as a base from which to attack us and I have no doubt they would do just that. As to Iran...I cannot see us invading Iran like we invaded Iraq, for a multitude of reasons. I believe the term surgical strikes would take on a whole new meaning if that became necessary. Honestly, I think if Ahmadinejad persists in this nuclear thing we will not have to do anything, because I believe Israel will handle it. I don't think Israel will stand by and let him get nukes. It would be suicide to do so...because if he attacked, that would be his first target, I would be willing to bet the farm. What I am really afraid of is he will put weapons grade nuc material in the hands of Al Qaeda for a dirty bomb to attack us with. That is why I don't want to abandon Iraq to become a base for such things. However, if the Iraqi govt does not step up...I would agree that we cannot stay there for life everlasting at the strength we are now. As you say, that does impair our safety at home. I think we need to concentrate on controlling our borders better.

On that note, I did see a somewhat encouraging report on illegals. Seems that more and more of them are moving on up to Canada because...get this...it is easier to get on programs if you are illegal and Canada pays more...LOL. Well more power to them I guess. Let Canada deal with them. I bet if we started a sweep to round up illegal aliens they would run north in droves. Which is okay too. Not great for Canada but better for us.

Be well, DW!
For Pete's sake, I agree. Let me say, CARE PACKAGES ARE A GREAT THING TO DO!
Let's all send care packages. I will check out the web site you provided and if it's legit my heart and pocketbook will lead me. Trust me, to your surprise I'm not a stingy old witch sitting here not willing to give a dime to the troops but yet preach about how much I love them. Don't believe that, well then it only rains under your cloud.

Where the disconnect is, is that you think that people are not allowed to be against this war, against this administration, and still be for the troops. When you come here and tell us what the troops are asking for in the form of care packages, it ticks me off even more with this administration for putting them in this situation, but you have reminded me that they are with needs and wishes and for their sacrifice we all should give to them.

In discussing this, our conversation can not be limited to care packages. Let me applaud you in all sincerity for being proactive and on top of sending the packages you have put together. I know you will make someone in Iraq's day brighter, a big hats off to you! I just happen to think they shouldn't be in this predicament anyway and on that we may never see eye to eye and that's fine.

There is no way you can do an entire
report by the point and click method.
I think the entire country knows how old he is...
I think they use the picture of him in his uniform to underscore his military service...which I don't think hurts his cause but helps it, in this world we live in now.

As to his mind...that is kind of a cheap shot, don't you think? I haven't seen any evidence of an unsound mind. Obama is not "old" but take him away from a teleprompter or a planned statement and he stumbles and stutters with the best of them...just trying to be fair here.
Nobody said he was. You ignored the entire text
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That is not even close to the entire transcription of what he said. nm

I believe O'Liely invented the entire

thing to help his pal John Gibson sell his book on this fictional topic.


After this *War on Christmas* was conjured up by these two, I believe that some people jumped on the *Happy Holidays* bandwagon simply because they're sick and tired of the religious right forcing their religion down everyone's throats for the past 5 years in the form of laws, supreme court nominees, FDA rulings, etc.


I think people of all religions are sick and tired of their religions being regarded as somehow *less* if they're not Christian (or even begin the *right kind* of Christian). 


The other week, I made a contribution to a Salvation Army *pot* outside of a store I was visiting.  The young man wished me a Merry Christmas, and I responded back with *Merry Christmas,* because I'm aware that the Salvation Army is a Christian organization.  I would never dare to ASSUME that every stranger I encounter is Christian, and if I am the person initiating the *Happy* greeting, I use the phrase *Happy Holidays.*  If I'm responding, I respond back with whatever they say to me first.


Yes, CHRISTMAS obviously is a Christian holiday first and foremost.  But this holiday has also evolved into a secular one which includes Santa Claus and jingle bells, lights, tinsel and credit cards.  It provokes people of ALL religions to act in a *Jesus-like* way:  With kindness, charity, love and tolerance.  


I believe that the Christmas *season* is so loved by ALL people that they are just unwilling to give it up to those who have proven to be so intolerant for the last 5 years.  They want to feel included and validated, as well.  It's ironic how some of the ones who claim to be the most *Christian* are unwilling to share their holiday with the rest of the country, and rather than being inclusive and welcoming of others under the umbrella of *Happy Holidays,* they instead choose, once again, to bully others.  Must be the true meaning of the *bully pulpit.*


Merry Christmas to all Christians who celebrate Christmas.


Happy Holidays to others of all religions who just might enjoy the Jesus-LIKE feeling they get in their hearts during this time of the year.  And as long as I initiate holiday wishes to strangers, I will be very respective, tolerant and inclusive of those who just might not be Christian, as I fondly remember the *good old days* when freedom of religion for ALL was not only *tolerated* but was unquestioned, welcomed and encouraged here in the United States of America.


That would certainly apply to the entire MTStars
(Thumbs up.)
Yes...this would be the liberal viewpoint of the entire...sm
Gov. Palin interview. Not surprising.

Charlie Gibson did perform his role for the left well, didn't he? Entrapment journalism at its best.




There is absolutely nothing in the entire mess this
Their greed, and the greed of those who so stalwartly support every move they make, is the root of most of the problems we face today.
I have read his entire plan
And I think it is still a national health care plan. Slice away all the pretty words and what are you left with? Government control. Sorry, no thanks.
You are missing the entire point. How sad. nm
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LOL you missed the entire point...
If saving innocent lives (abortion) is your goal, then MCBUSH is certainly *not* the lesser of two evils because he is CHOMPING at the bit to start MORE fake wars that kill MORE innocent people.

Or as I said before, does it only matter if the "innocent life" being killed is American...?


Are Americans really this stupid they can't see that all these FAKE WAR deplete our own treasury, kil people, and MAKE US MORE ENEMIES??

OR, DO WE have to be brought to our knees by the CIVILIZED portion of the world before we stand up to government that invades innocent countries with OUR money using OUR sons and daughters as cannon fodder?

If you base your perceptions of the entire
populace of our country from the postings on this forum, you need to get out more.

I'm sorry they said bad things about your candidate. It obviously hurt you deeply.
Ditto your entire 2 posts...
I agree wholeheartedly. This should not be a race issue, but unfortunately that's all it has become and thats too bad. I'd like to give Obama the benefit of the doubt that he may be able to do a decent job, but I'm afraid these next 4 years are gonna be just one race issue after another, not very productive for our country. Like the posters below, where's my check?
Wrong! If you had seen the entire video, you ....sm
would have seen that Queen Elizabeth had first put her arm around Michelle Obama. You all are a bunch of crazy people. Obama is doing a terrific job, just what we elected him to do. I feel sorry for you.
Yeah - not at all like the NY Times, which has had entire
When you get up tomorrow morning, look in the mirror and say "Today, I will try NOT to be a dope".
I read that entire article and I still didn't see where it said sm

U.S. military was protecting the Hezbollah supporters. Am I really missing it?


We need to vote as if our entire future depends on it,
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Why would Obama bring his entire family
they were all just there as recently as August 7th? Michelle was an effective, seamless stand-in on the trail. Stop and think for a minute. Malia is 10 and Natasha is 7. That would make them both school age. They visited their GM 2-1/2 months ago when, although her health was frail, she was in much better shape, now that she has broken her hip and just been released from the hospital, is "gravely ill" and believed to be near the end.

A couple of things to consider. As responsible parents, it seems to me that the Obamas have all they can say grace over just trying to maintain some sense of normalcy during a heated and often hateful political campaign. Children of this age do their best when their normal routines are maintained. What makes no sense to me is the idea that they should return to Hawaii to see their GM after her health has deteriorated considerably, is weak and probably not looking that good. Personally, I would want to protect my children from seeing that, especially if it meant preserving a final memory of their grandmother during the happier days of a family vacation, rather than a deathbed scene.

I do not see anything "weird" in their decision not to take their children out of school in the middle of the week, put them on a 10-hour 4250 mile flight for a 1-day jet-lagged stay and a final farewell, and then turn them right back around again for a second 10 hour 4250 mile trip.

There is a distinct possibility that in the next 10 days, these children's lives are going to be changed forever, should they become the first children. They will be negotiating the glare of the media and in another 2 months, could be making a move from Chicago to DC into the White House. Hopefully, they will not have to be dealing with the death of their grandmother in the middle of all that.
You obviously failed to read the entire link.
to back up her claims. I don't need to research this further. I was a 40+ grown-up when the confirmation hearings were held and I remember them vividly, since it was one of the most blatent miscarriages of justice I have witnessed first-hand in my entire life. I was a bit more naive back then but now, of course, I understand completely how the Bushes operate and how this could have happened under their watch.
Not an iota of truth in this entire post, except
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You're obviously one who has missed his entire point
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gt read an entire thread before you start spouting off

it would save a lot of that foot taste in your mouth and egg on your face.


I never said that the transcript was not Rush's words.  What I said was a bunch of bunk and lies was the columnist's comments about Rush and I stand by that.   and for your information just because something is posted on the internet does not make it factual or true.  Do I really have to point that out to you?


Oh, and BTW I don't agree with Pat Robertson's remarks.  I am Christian, but I think Pat R. needs to shut up and retire.  He definitely does not speak for all Christians, but again, Cindy Sheehan has said the equivalent about Bush except in much, much more vulgar and hateful language.