I briefly thought something similar when I first heard of him,
Posted By: but then I listened to what he had to say on 2008-09-05
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and the 'funny name' became a total non-issue. And I'm voting for him specifically BECAUSE he's had less 'experience' (i.e., he's not corrupted like all them good ol' boys.)
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Just when I thought I'd heard it all . .
now someone is being criticized for being nice? The human race never fails to disappoint me on a daily basis . . . so sad.
I heard this solution and thought it was interesting
Someone proposed that instead of bailing them out, you give 3.5 million to each American citizen. You let them tank (which they should and deserve), and those Americans who now have 3.5 million dollars can spend it in the economy, save it whatever way they want (back into the banking industry, etc), and the economy would build back up. Of course don't know all the details, just heard that and thought it was a pretty good solution and I can bet you all Americans would say yes to that plan.
I heard that too and thought he was talking about this country
Because he's saying they should do that, but yet he's not applying the same rules to the U.S.
Can we say...hipocrit. He needs to keep his mouth shut. I think he's changed his mind about three times. No wonder they are saying we are meddling. Oh, and then he says there is no difference between the two that were running against each other. Talk about speaking about something you are totally ignorant in. What's that saying from B. Franklin. - Better to keep one's mouth shut and appear foolish than to speak and remove all doubt". (not the exact words but I can't think of it right now.
I hadn't thought about it but we haven't heard much, if anything about whether we are yellow,
I had heard about the tent cities, but never even thought about the increase in arsons. nm
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Briefly, but I got over it.
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I would be glad to learn more about her, so I will, but briefly
just heard is only a one term Governer from Alaska and she is NOT Pro-Choice, so we will see.
The best way to post is to briefly explain...sm
what you gleaned from the website and give your opinion. Then post the link for people to read for clarification and validity.
similar to o's rambling over and over and
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Vermont has a similar program. nm
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Sounds similar to what some Repubs. were
doing to some Jewish people.
Sean Hannity does something similar. sm
Every Thursday or Friday he does what he calls, "Man in the Street" interview. He has one of his staffers go out in NY and pick random people to talk to him via cell phone. The staffers usually try to get a good cross-section but it seems that most of the ones they get are the late teens and 20 somethings. Anyway...he asked them basic questions such as who was the Sec'y of State. Nobody knew. Half of the people did not even know who the VP was. I was absolutely floored by their abysmal ignorance.
And these are the people who will be voting in 2012 and beyond.
I'm sure Wright has been preaching similar sentiments
for the 20 years Obama has belonged to the church, implying IMO he agrees.
The political image/persona he's tried to build for himself (all politicians do it) has just been shot full of holes.
Knowing Wright's rhetoric why does he stay a member to this day??
If you've listened and watched the full sermon it is very disturbing, and I don't see any "cherry picking" in the media I so love to hate. That remark on Obama's part could be taken as his defending the diatribe.
I hope this bombshell doesn't go away - people need to know where Obama is really coming from.
The concept is similar to any group plan.
without compromising the care. It is the FEHB (Federal Employees health Benefits) program. It is really good coverage, low deductibles, several choices. Heres the home page website:
http://www.opm.gov/insure/05/index.asp
I posted a similar question yesterday. sm
I asked what exactly their beef was about O's speech? The silence on this is deafening. I for one felt extremely proud of my country yesterday while listening to that speech. Finally, a president that has the gonads to not only stand up and be firm, but be willing to admit that we have made mistakes as well and at the same time be respectful of another's culture and it's okay that we don't cram democracy down everyone's throat like Bush wanted to do. And the US has made numerous mistakes and it's okay to accept responsibility in that -- yet O gets lamblasted by the right for making apologies. SO WHAT? It takes a lot of class and maturity to admit to being wrong, and guess what you get in return -- something this country has not gotten in a long time -- RESPECT! He now has the daunting task of trying to mend 8 years of damage done by a cocky, swaggering cowboy who did not know the first thing about showing respect for anyone else and this whole country should be behind him 100% in his efforts in this instead of constantly browbeating him and criticizing EVERYTHING he does!!
interesting article, have read many similar these past few days...
http://www.commondreams.org/views06/1231-23.htm
I just thought it might be nice to hear an original thought. sm
I guess I was reaching.
Thought this was good so I thought I'd share
Down the drain? Beware of Obama's plan to 'spread the wealth around'
By Betsy Newmark
High School History and Government Teacher/Blogger
If the McCain campaign can’t use this Obama quote to raise doubts about his attitude towards wealth and success, then they deserve the shellacking they seem headed for.
“Your new tax plan is going to tax me more, isn’t it?” the plumber asked, complaining that he was being taxed “more and more for fulfilling the American dream.”
“It’s not that I want to punish your success. I just want to make sure that everybody who is behind you, that they’ve got a chance for success too,” Obama responded. “My attitude is that if the economy’s good for folks from the bottom up, it’s gonna be good for everybody … I think when you spread the wealth around, it’s good for everybody.”
Plumbers of the country, unite! Forget about the work and effort you put into building up a business or the scummy work that you do that many of us don’t know or don’t want to do. If you have succeeded, you should be willing to give up more of what you earn to help those who haven’t had the great good luck that you have had to be a successful plumber. Remember how Obama is going to give 95% of all of us a tax cut even though over 30% of the population doesn’t pay taxes?
He might call it a tax credit, but what he’s really doing is his vision of “spreading the wealth around.” It sounds a lot like Huey Long’s 1935 plan to “Share the Wealth.” And when he finds that he can’t tax the top 5% of the population to gain enough wealth to spread to the 95% of the rest of us, do you really think that he’ll stop with that 5%?
Remember…This is the guy who said in the ABC debate during the primary season that his approach to raising tax on capital gains is not based on whether it would provide more revenue but on his idea of what is fair:
GIBSON: All right. You have, however, said you would favor an increase in the capital gains tax. As a matter of fact, you said on CNBC, and I quote, “I certainly would not go above what existed under Bill Clinton,” which was 28 percent. It’s now 15 percent. That’s almost a doubling, if you went to 28 percent.
But actually, Bill Clinton, in 1997, signed legislation that dropped the capital gains tax to 20 percent.
OBAMA: Right.
GIBSON: And George Bush has taken it down to 15 percent.
OBAMA: Right.
GIBSON: And in each instance, when the rate dropped, revenues from the tax increased; the government took in more money. And in the 1980s, when the tax was increased to 28 percent, the revenues went down.
So why raise it at all, especially given the fact that 100 million people in this country own stock and would be affected?
OBAMA: Well, Charlie, what I’ve said is that I would look at raising the capital gains tax for purposes of fairness.
Just what we need in these fragile economic times — a guy who wants to raise taxes because he thinks it’s a matter of “fairness” and time to “spread the wealth around.”
That will be some incentive for other plumbers who want to work hard and build up a successful business.
But don’t worry - according to Joe Biden, it’s the patriotic thing to do.
Haha! I thought I was the only one who thought he looked
I told you what I thought he thought....
and thank you so much for reducing it to "a piece."
That being said, here is link to article from Wall Street Journal about both candidates and outsourcing...Obama is not going to stop it either. He has said on the stump the answer is more highly educated American workers to compete.
It seems to me, and although you may think this is also a "piece," that if you put our corporate tax rates lower, if that corporation is inclined to hire Americans and not outsource then they will do so.
You honestly think the majority of corporations just WANT to outsource and taxes don't matter?
Heard that before.
When was that? Oh yeah! Gee, I really miss Nan, I wish she'd come back to the board. LOL!!!
I apologize to those who don't know what I'm talking about - again, the guilty party knows full well.
Anyway how's this for a subject? - The mayor New Orleans was a Republican before he ran, and switched his party affiliation to Democrat before he was successfully elected. Landreau is a Democrat. The Louisiana governor is a Democrat. Seems we have a lot of democratic leaders in an otherwise supposedly Republican state.
Wonder what effect if any that has had on the slow and disinterested response from the federal govt. in helping the people of New Orleans?
Everybody's heard of her now, eh?
That was a long article, but I think it did highlight the fact that Bush is neither a friendly or a courteous guy - insiders have been saying that for years. Can't use the excuse that he didn't want some antiwar journalist raking him over the coals - that kind of journalist would never have been allowed within the same building as he, if she had that kind of reputation.
It seems clear that the Bushes consider themselves American Royalty and that's unfortunate, because America was born from a resentment of just that kind of above-the-law holier-than-thou don't- speak-until-he-does kind of nonsense.
This is the first I heard of this.
Thanks for posting it. I love the title, Water the Bushes. :-)
Have you heard this one before?
The proof is in the pudding.
That's because I have heard sm
holding one's breath until one turns blue tends to affect cognition. But I have only heard that, I am not sure there is any truth to it. Would you happen to know?
I heard that.
It was published in some conservative magazine but was unfounded. He never went to school in Africa at all. The magazine said that they got it from the Clinton campaign. I am wondering since when did a conservative publication print anything the Clinton campaign has to say. Anyway, I still think knowing first hand something about Muslims and Islam would be beneficial.
Well, I have heard
that it is "HARD WORK" and he is "WORKIN HARD" I know this is true coz this is what he told us in the last prez debate.
only heard a little of it, but
apparently did not realize he had a "hot" mike and said something about obama may be talking down to the black communities. now it has been "taken out of context" and he has apologized and made it clear he supports obama.
Sorry. I did not know that. Had not heard that.
I will post link from now on. My apologies.
No....the last I heard they really don't know...
who is going to speak when. I had not heard he cancelled. Several have been postponed because of the hurricane.
I heard this, but....
I heard the story too. I have not been able to find a credible source to be able to acknowledge or deny it. But I think she would have some very very serious problems. I remember some religious leaders were trying to ban the Harry Potter books and there was a huge uproar. People may think she's going to do this or that, but I think we have to remember she has to get approval from congress. The VP alone cannot make these decisions and pass laws. It would have to be voted on.
I heard what he said....he did not say the...
economy was strong, that is not what he said this morning. He said the foundation of the economy is strong, and it is, or the situation on wall street today would have been much worse. He, in fact, said that the economy was in crisis and it needed to be dealt with in the way of reforming of lending companies, regulating non-bank lenders, etc. (non-bank meaning lenders not backed by the FDIC)...which all makes very good sense, since all these lenders folding and the housing decline have more to do with the economy going downhill than anything else. At least he is not talking about raising taxes on already stressed companies like Mr. Obama is.
And come to think of it...how can Obama give a tax break to 95% of people when right about 40% don't even pay taxes? How can you give a tax break to someone who doesn't pay taxes anyway? Oh yeah...you tax the companies that provide about 80% of the jobs in this country and give those 40% a freebie. And somehow that is supposed to help?
I heard
I heard reports he did not quit.
as you may have heard
long ago in pre-history class, the prez and VP work FOR us. If they want the job, they have to communicate with us, even when they don't like it or are having problems with Todd.
Here is what I heard
Okay, I've been working all day but DH has had the TV up full blast (he's a news junkie), so have caught things here and there.
My understanding is this (and someone please correct me if I'm wrong because I don't want to pass on false information).
JM and BO both go to WA and there is a big meeting with the pres and all the other people. I heard that things were "cordial" when the press was in taking pictures but once they left there was yelling, arguing, fists pounding on desks, etc, etc. I heard it did not end very good at all and people ended leaving and sounds like some people won't talk to others. My understanding is that the democrats proposed a solution, but it didn't hold the responsible parties responsible, and what they submitted would still let the CEOs and higher up people walk away with all their money and the American people would be left the ones who pay for the bail out. I understand the republicans said no it wasn't good enough and JM refused to back down and said the American people should not be the ones to pay for this. I've heard a lot of other people talk and they said it was not a good proposal at all.
I believe (again this is what I think and have caught from tid bits here and there) that JM wants to stay in WA until this crisis is worked out but BO wants a debate no matter what and he wanted to hurry to get where ever the debate is and he ended up telling the people "Call me if you need me" and then left.
That's my understanding on it. I've been listing to all the news stations and cannot even begin to tell you what all the people said about this because they say it so much better than I ever could. But that is my brief summary.
I was just stunned thinking this is a major major crisis and it needs to be resolved and BO doesn't want to stick around and says "Call me if you need me".
All I say is brother, what a mess we have.
I heard
They were threated with martial law if they did not vote for it.
Something that I have heard nothing about...sm
is medical care of veterans coming back from Iraq and Afganistan. Their injuries are so severe that in prior wars they would be dead. Now they are coming back alive but so severely injured, brain injuries, limb loss, PSD, etc. The veterans should come first, along with their families, national guard, regular army, navy, air force and marines. They should be getting the best care that money can buy, not only for their acute injuries, but for their rehabilitation. It is a disgrace that they become invisible when they come home.
Sorry, I never heard his name.
Republican radio talk show host? Well, why does that not surprise me?
I heard about this too.
Where does it stop?
Had not heard this before....
http://www.newsmax.com/timmerman/obama_harvard_/2008/09/23/133199.html
You can do a search on the names and find the video of Sutton talking about Al-Mansour raising money for Obama (long before he ran for office...money being raised to help with his education). This Al-Mansour is quite a character. Read up on him. Very enlightening.
IS a man known by the company he keeps?
and yet I have heard you say more than once
that you are not voting for Obama, but against McCain. Is that not hammering McCain? And who says that my REAL reasons have not already been posted? I am perfectly capable of thinking for myself and tired of being called names for not thinking like others. It is silly because it doesn't matter to anyone who has already made up his/her mind why I vote the way I vote. I don't wish to be called a racist or rabid or any other names anymore, so while I might read this because I really have nothing else to do, I think that I have had enough posting.
I think I just heard....
the founding fathers screaming and whirling in their graves. No wonder this country is in the shape its in.
From what I heard
There were two black panthers. One of them had a night stick and he was escorted away by police, but the second one lives there and is actually a polling officer or watcher and so he has a right to be there. but I don't think he should be allowed to be there dressed that way. He told a polling officer that they were tired of white supremacy and that's why they were there.
okay - what I heard -
Okay - exactly what Obama said is that "you are absolutely right, McCain has not questioned my Muslim faith", GS then says "your Christian faith" and Obama replies, "I mean that McCain has not suggested that I am Muslim".
He is saying that the McCain campaign was not bringing that out themselves because they knew it was not true and that it was just lies being spread by people.
He NEVER said he was a Muslim and it is clear to me that he is saying he is not.
Last I heard,
spelling/grammar police are against the law on this board.
Yep you heard right?
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/11/13/officials-obama-considering-hillary-clinton-secretary-state/
I just want to say I hope you will feel better soon and I do not want to upset you, but I will be praying for you that you get the best doctors that will fix and correct the area in your back. You take care and get better. Believe it or not, you will be missed.
and where does this come from? Never heard that before now - nm
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When I heard.............sm
that when the Walmart tried to close its store but customers kept shopping and refused to leave because they had been waiting for hours for the store to open and "we aren't leaving" I about lost it. No decency whatsoever. 
I heard that! sm
I had to check this morning to see if I had a waddle under my chin and feathers on my posterior! LOL
What I heard was ....(sm)
that Bush did come to an agreement with the dems, but now won't let go of the money. His plan is not to bail them out, but rather make sure they have an *orderly bankrupcy* -- whatever that means.
Also, that nice little bill he just squeaked through for the *right of conscience* thing goes into effect either today or tomorrow. Yeah, it was aimed at abortion, but is very broad in its interpretation. For example: If you have a child who needs antibiotics, the child is prescribed antibiotics by doc, you go to the drug store, and guess what.....the cashier just happens to be a Christian Scientologist....(who, by the way does not believe in antibiotics). That cashier can refuse to sell you that drug and does not have to give any explanation whatsoever to either you or the company they work for. Passing this bill will take about $44 million, and how much money will it take to reverse it? That would be our tax dollars at work! Nice going Busher!!!
I have never heard of this before until now.
Does he not believe in B-day gifts and Christmas gifts? And if so, what is the real reason?
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