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I am thinking the true Democrats on this board will not thank you for your posts. nm

Posted By: Really? on 2005-07-14
In Reply to: I jump for joy - gt




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    Thinking that the democrats would lose is exactly, well....
    Thanks for proving my point for me.
    Can we bring the board back to the true reason for the board

    Can we get the political board back to the true purpose of this board – to share opinions of why we like our candidate.  Not bash and cut down others because they don’t agree with you.


    I stayed away from this board for the past couple days because anyone who had anything positive to say about Sarah Palin got slammed, bashed, kicked down, etc.  After awhile I found it all too draining, and was not seeing any reason to come.  Yes, I did see some of it towards people who favored Barack Obama, but if you read the posts again it is mostly towards anyone who favored Sarah Palin/John McCain.


    I thought the political board was for posting information regarding politics and candidates.  What I have seen for the past few days is that it has been an attack board.  Especially if you have anything positive you want to share about Sarah Palin.  You say something good about her and you get attacked, you answer back, and you get attacked more, and then when you get mad and pretty much say stop attacking me, they come back with this “Geez, I’m allowed to have an opinion”.


    Another thing I am tired of seeing is the slanderous, hate filled, really off the wall comments about Sarah Palin.  The latest was something about her daughter actually had her baby.  Talk about just bizarre comments.  I thought what’s next, she’s an alien from another planet?  The more I kept reading the more the comments were getting just really weird and bizarre.  Of course nobody ever having any proof of any of these allegations.  I then came to realize that the posters were just trying to get a fight going.


    I also saw posts that had nothing to do with politics but attacking a poster named Sam.  Again, probably trying to get another fight going for no good reason and on things that have nothing to do whatsoever with politics.  I’ve read “Sam is like an annoying nat that you sway away”, “Sam, please let me know where you work” or “she must have her quota” or “sam is to the politics board as oracle is to the”  This childish rhetoric is getting old.  I’m not defending sam she is a big girl and I can see by her posts she can take care of herself, but my point is that this has nothing to do with politics.  If you want a fight maybe you could request that the administrator create a separate “fight and degrade” section.


    I’ve read the administrators post a couple different times called Beware of Flaming.  She/he said as long as we realize that not everyone is going to agree we shouldn’t wear our feelings on our sleeves and a little more oversight on here would be good.  Let people express his or her opinion and move on.  If you don’t like someone just ignore that person. “It’s not rocket science, you know” (I liked that statement)


    I consider posting on this board a privilege and not a right.  If you don’t agree with something and you post that you don’t agree and state the facts why (and are civilized about it) that’s one thing, but when you bash and degrade others without showing proof and just want to start fights and belittle others it just seems a bit juvenile to me.


    I come to the politics board to hear ideas and stuff (facts) about the candidates.  That is how I’m learning about each one, but I don’t want to read people attack other posters for no good reason.  I'd like to hear about Obama/Biden & McCain/Palin, but I want to hear facts.


    If you like to fight so much why don’t you pick on people that you can fight to face to face. 


    I was just thinking they should rename this board "Current Events" instead of
    I'm just bored today and thought I would just throw that out there.  I think Current Events better all-ecompasses the discussions on this board.
    Not true, the "liberals" confuse Democrats often
    Many southerners and midwestern folks feel that Hollywood and both coasts have hijacked the Democrats and thus alienated them. There's a whole country in between that doesn't relate. What is grossly underestimated is the vast majority of us that are not either liberals or conservatives, but just Americans scratching our heads in puzzlement at the limited choices.

    When we get our own board, we'll leave ya'll alone on both sides.

    oopsss...sorry. I mean the majority of democrats on this board...
    I do know some Democrats who are independent thinkers and they are voting McCain-Palin this year. :)
    Both posts above are true- plus you could not
    attend the muslim school in Indonesia if you were an American citizen (only an indonesian citizen). The only way he is an american citizen is if he applied for citizenship again and I haven't seen anything leading to that.
    That's anyone who posts on this board...sm
    but, I'm sure I have called a spade a spade a time or two in my lifetime though, but I haven't called anyone on this board a racist.

    But I still think the remarks that Bennett made were WRONG and if they weren't racist remarks I don't know what is. Sorry you can't see this. If he's not a racist why is he spewing the racist idealoges from the Freakonomics book anyhow, which by the way if these are the type remarks I can expect in the book I would rather burn my money.
    If you mean the posts on this board.....
    I agree. I don't know how many posts I've read here where people are just repeating lies put out by their "favorite" sources. I've read some posts that are okay, but all I keep hearing is Obama's evil, he's a destroyer, he's this he's that, or John McCain is senile, he's this or that.

    I think people in nature love to "hate". They like to stir up "fear" in people. As in "If you vote for Obama he's going to let our enemies take over our country. Or "If you vote for McCain we're going to be at war with every country for the next 100 years". The most comical one I read was that Obama is a destroyer and anoher one that said Obama is trying to change the infrastructure of America. However, I did have to laugh at the ones "Obama wants to be GOD" and "Obama wants to be president of the UN" (funny I thought he wanted to be president of the US - maybe it was just a typo HA HA),

    Looks like a lot of people are scared to death of both of them, but unfortunately that's who the "players" decided would be in there.

    While this board can be "addicting" (finding myself visit it 6 and 7 times a day), I'm also finding it a place for gossip, rumors, and lies.

    I remember reading a quote one time that kind of put things in perspective for me about people who spread lies/rumors. "Never make negavie comments or spread rumors about anyone. It depreciates their reputation and yours". - Brian Koslow

    The most unfortunate part of the rumors/lies is there are a lot of people who simply believe they are passing on "important information", but what's worse is they haven't researched it for themselves. Just reading something in a newspaper doesn't make it the truth, and especially not on youtube or the conservative/liberal TV and radio.

    Here's one more quote about rumors...

    The flying rumours gather'd as the roll'd,
    Scarce any tale was sooner heard than told;
    And all who told it added something new.
    And all who heard it made enlargements too.

    - Alexander Pope,

    These posts were on the conservative board

    where we are free to talk about the extreme hatefulness coming from this board.  However, when some people wish the president dead...well that's bordering on a THREAT to the president.  I actually be afraid to post things like that.  You might receive a friendly knock on the door from the FBI.


    Again, There were trolls on the liberal board (no consistent moniker that's the first thing that gives trolls away) posting VERY NASTY replies anytime a conservative posted anything on THEIR OWN BOARD.  It takes a lot nerve to argue with the administrator of this board who can delete you and ban you for any reason. It is a private board BTW no public doman.   Many of you have been stalking on the conservative board for weeks.  You have been posting near threats on the president....what do you expect the administrator to do!?  Start talking about real subjects and quit having a hate fest over here and you might find the administrator a little more sympathetic to your plight....


    The first one says, do not bash their posts. It does not say stay off the board.
    The second one I did not recall seeing. As I said, go to the conservative board and see what you see.  The same thing as here.  Stop whining about it and grow up.
    No Reality, I was talking about their posts on the C board. :) nm

    Great post. The posts on this board indeed COULD
    lack of tolerance.
    This board is for liberal posters. Do not bash their posts. sm
    Thank you.
    The posts on the conservative board were supported by videos. sm
    These videos all showed US Soldiers discussing their views on the war.  Much different than something you read in print. I would also like to say that the Military Times is NOT an armed forces newspaper.  It is privately owned and does not in any way speak for the military.  The generals are saying they will resign if we go into Iran. 
    I think Palin was treated unfairly - just look at the posts on this board
    I think it's a disgrace that McCain has not asked that this be stopped. But then again I think it's a disgrace that Obama wasn't outraged at the comment the KGO radio guy made about wanted Joe the Plumber dead.

    I think Palin is an amazing woman and stood her ground.

    Just look at this board. The republican party lost and the liberals are still attacking and demonizing her and for no good reason. And this is why I think the democrat party in Washington will fail the people once again. They can't let things go. It's like hearing the same story over and over and over while they snicker and gloat over issues like the porn movie that was created with a Palin look alike, and telling lies that her daughter actually had the downs baby when they knew it was a lie. Then the whole clothing issue was just ridiculous. We've got serious issues at hand like a war, a sinking economy, people out of work and all the democrats can talk about is where her clothes were bought, which were later returned or donated to charity. It's just disgraceful. If the democrats can't even look forward and stop bringing up Palin how is this country ever going to heal.
    Keep you rapture ready posts on the Faith Board!
    I have never seen a more ludicrous web site than Rapture Ready. This type of insanity belongs on the Faith Board, not the Politics Board.
    Administrator: Someone is filling our board with drug ad posts on page 3.
    Hmm - none on the conservative board.  Extreme Right wing conspiracy?
    Ignore the posts. This board is pretty tame compared to others. sm
    On Red State and Daily Kos the ad hom attacks are unbelievable.

    The previous owner of this board banned everyone posting anti Bush comments, and there were constant neocon ad hom attacks. I am conservative but these are not my type of Republicans. There used to be a lot of good posters here.
    But lately, you;ve contributed daily to the toxic liberal posts on this board.

    That is true....so everyone want to move the discussion to Faith board? nm
    x
    Posts were removed due to the nastiness. Play nice and posts won't get deleted.

    I saw the posts for myself, no one "ran" to me. Note that all boards were reviewed for inappropriate posts.


    That's true - and Barack Obama is a true Patriot too.
    Again we can agree to disagree. How John McCain has voted goes against everything I want as a President, but there are an equal number of people to me who feel opposite. That's the way it goes.

    Your last comment brought to mind how true that is. Being a true patriot is not harmful in a candidate. John McCain is a patriot. So is Barack Obama.
    So you and your buds bash us on *your* board and suddenly, once you reach this board,

    some respect?


    You publicly post on the other board that you *try not to visit the bog of eternal stench.*


    Well, doesn't look like you are trying all that hard. Or is that another example of Conservative honesty, like your buddy on the other board lies 3 times before suddenly deciding to be *up front* (in her own words) about the whole bogus line of crap she was spouting.


    You and your 2 friends don't respect anyone unless they're a member of your little club, think exactly as you think, belong to the same political party as you belong, and believe in the very same little narrow SUBsection of one particular religion.


    That's what I interpret from YOUR WRITTEN WORDS.  Your posts don't show respect.  They only show twisted *facts*, ignorance, anger and hatred.


    You can't be *respectful* on your own board but suddenly, when you come here - HERE - the place YOU call *the bog of eternal stench* you suddenly discover some respectability during your mouse click from there to here?


    Please.  Some of us aren't as stupid as you think we are.


    You're becoming quite a bore.  You and your friends stated you don't want us on your board, but you're not happy unless you're picking a fight.  You and your *gang* told us to leave and not to post on *your* board.  Maybe that should work both ways.


    Out of ALL the problems with radical Conservatives, maybe the most annoying thing is that you don't believe in equality at all.  You believe in SUPERIORITY.  Somewhere along the line, someone made you think you were special and above everyone else.  Sheesh!  You're not happy unless you're dictating to everyone else in the country what they're allowed to do in their own personal lives regarding life, death, science, etc. You even think YOUR GOD IS BETTER than everyone else's.


    You want to make the rules, censor people and tell them which boards they can and cannot post on, but YOU want to invade them all and spew your ignorance and hatred. 


    In my heart, I believe there are sincere, honest, intelligent Conservatives out there who are capable of a sensible debate.  I've seen them.  (I hope you don't chase them away, too.)  But and your crew don't fall in that category, and this will be the last of your inane posts I will subject myself to.


    Talk about stench. Just read your very own posts.


    She also posts regularly here. Who are you to say where she posts? nm
    //
    Your on the wrong board - you need to preach on the faith board
    You just delivered a sermon (or quote). Either way it doesn't belong here. What does this have to do with politics. The democrat and republican party did not start up until after the 1800s. Socialism also wasn't created until the 1800s.

    To me your post describes the way humans should treat other humans. This has nothing to do with politics - imho.

    Because you posted on the Main board not Politics board.
    It was removed, as we do not have an option of moving from Main to Politics.

    This could have easily been avoided had you posted on the correct board.

    The response from another poster to not post political viewpoints on this board was becuase you posted it on the Main board.
    the conservative board is a liberal board now
    you all aren't happy until you infect everyone out there with your hatred.   It's not something I'd very proud of.
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    WHAT was I thinking!!!!

    I forgot only your opinion counts.  Please forgive me. 


     


    Whatever was I thinking? NT

    m


    W's thinking (or not)
    W. finds time to attend the services for the VT students (as he ought), yet fails to attend a single funeral of any one of the soldiers he has sent into war; no excuse in my book. I am currently listening to the service on TV and the Governor of VA is saying how W knows **first as a governor and now as president the importance of comfort and consolation necessary in these sad times.** (paraphrased a bit) Soldiers and their families don't need comfort or consolation...that is just wrong. People who have voluntarily put their lives in danger at the behest of their president and in duty to their country are not afforded the respect of the man's (who sent them there presence??) This is not to minimize in any way the tragedy at VT. I realize that one cannot attend 3300 funerals but maybe at least 1 in each state or something. These soldiers deserved better.
    Gee, with this way of thinking, I should
    be VP, a heartbeat from the presidency.  I am NOT Washingtonian.  I am a normal person.  My husband is a blue collar worker.  I have three children and six grandchildren.  Hmmmm.... Why wasn't I called!?   Since 1984, I have felt that the American people are so stupid, and as it turns out, I am right.
    Like he said...he kept thinking they would do something...
    and they aren't. ANd you would think that the man who is going to be president would want to BE THERE and hear things FIRST HAND on the biggest crisis of the country. Good grief, admit it, if Obama had done it first you would be singing his praises and saying all the things we are saying about McCain. Just admit it...lol Geez.
    What are they thinking???!!!
    I am a republican, and plan to vote for McCain.  Why in the world did they allow Sarah Palin to go on that piece of crap Saturday Night Live?? 
    Your thinking about this too much!
    Here this should put you to rest! LOL (this is the most unbiased one I could find)
    I am thinking that
    it is a bad idea to kill any industry while bailing others out in a failing economy, but that's just my way of thinking. It seems silly to throw money at industries that are doing poorly while trying to bankrupt industries that are doing well.
    Exactly what I was thinking.
    nm
    Now that I am thinking about it.....
    That we should transcribe ESL without complaining! We should be politically correct and polite, and understanding, but the different accents just kept coming from all over the world and we were expected to be professional and productive, but that has been hard also.
    Just what I was thinking of
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    I'm thinking about doing that too...(sm)
    I'm 45 with at least 20 yrs to go.  I figure I'll only put in money that I can spare--yeah that's a joke.  Instead of buying extra stuff I don't need (assuming that's an option in the future), I'll save that back for investing.
    I was thinking 7 too....are we right, m?....nm

    HA HA HA HA HA - That's what I was thinking.
    Oh my gosh I laughed so hard at your reply. That's the funniest all morning. Thanks for the laugh.
    LOL! Thanks for saying what I was thinking, JBB.
    :)
    What ARE they thinking?
    report on anything whatsoever that does not help to advance the culture wars? You are so right. What we need is a 24/7/365 media blitz belittling the evil prez and drumming up as much opposition as possible to any avancement toward a fix for the economy. Good luck with that. Seriously. It's about the only hope the GOP has for being able to make face in 2012 or to orchestrate that all important revolution in Congress in 2010. Hang all those pesky folks who are losing their jobs and homes.
    I'm thinking that the only ones to be
    bummed out by all these developments are the productive members of society, who see their lives not really being improved by all this hope and change.  So it would be in the government's best interests to keep us from checking out, so that we can be kept subsidizing everyone else.  This is not really concern. They are just trying to prevent escape.
    You have my empathy. I had been seriously thinking

    of relocating down south, but I think it's prudent to steer clear of it because I don't want to live amongst people like that any more than they would want me to live amongst them.  Feels very much like a new age of segregation, only based on religion/politics instead of race.  If you visit the Conservative board, it's clear to see the tactics they use, and it shows depth of character to me.  I've made a list of people who aren't worth the click of a mouse because they've proven themselves to have no credibility, and I don't feel like wasting time.


    People's views vary on a number of issues, and I usually really enjoy reading opposing views if they're presented in an intelligent, credible manner without insults or attacks or falsehoods.


    Anyway, it's great to see someone who's a NICE, cheerful, venomless person post, regardless of your views.  I hope you keep visiting.


    I was thinking the very same thing.
    It seems like some dark force has taken over Lurker.  I will pray about that.
    Thanks for your reply. I was thinking that the more...
    moderate and even conservative leaning Independents might be swayed. Enough of them swayed to vote him back in as an Independent as a senator. I realize that is only one state, but there are others of like mind across the country who are pretty sick of the Democratic Party and the Republican Party...and McCain is more moderate, as is Lieberman...not hard right or hard left. That is very appealing to some people right now who are tired of the infighting and the extremes. I think Lieberman is VERY astute and realizes this.

    As to the war in Iraq...both Clinton and Obama have said they would not be for immediate withdrawal of troops. The only candidate I have heard who said they would end the war immediately is Ron Paul. Which, I know is an unpopular stance you. The only thing I can say at this point is that for whatever reason we went...which we cannot change...we are there. And you can't unscramble eggs. We need to do the best fix we can in the shortest time possible, and Petraeus is doing that. Amazing strides have been made. Hopefully they will continue and we are able to get most of our forces out of there in a year or two. Which is better than the 5-6 years they used to talk about. And to me, that is an amazing stride.

    At any rate, thanks for your answer. I won't hold my breath to hear you, DW, being criticized as a one-issue voter (you said that you would not vote for McCain because of his stand on the war). lol.

    Have a great day!
    you said exactly what I've been thinking
    The democratic party needs to kick the Clintons out. They need to tell them they are dividing the party. I've heard many people say there are actually 3 parties. The democrats, republicans, and the Clintons. And that is no joke. I don't know where they came from but they only surfaced about 16 years ago when Billy ran and now they are like a virus. I wish the Dems had some "cahonas" and just told Bill & Hillary they are not wanted in the democratic party and they remove them. They have not done anything good for the party. As for saying Hillary inspires woman - oh please - there are tons more women in poltics who are aspiring. The only thing Hillary inspires are the liars and cheats. And I'd like to rip their fingers off. Didn't their mother's ever teach them it's rude to point to people.
    I am thinking the same thing..
    like everyone wants it to...  It's just not that type of thing you can just "forget about."  Maybe John McCain should have done some digging on his own before choosing her. 
    Thank you. I have been thinking the same thing of her. nm
    xx