I agree with poster below. Don't even waste your time reading the post. - Sarcastic and utter no
Posted By: mt on 2008-09-04
In Reply to: let me ask you this - tootietoo
Oh brother - get real.
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I agree. This is a complete and utter...... sm
show of lack of respect for his family. They have lost a loved one and should be left alone in their time of grief. While I don't agree with his chosen profession, his family is not to blame and they are the ones being hurt by this, not him.
You might as well not waste your time!
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Don't waste your time, JBB
Trying to reason with someone who has an imaginary sense of "reality" is an exercise in futility.
seriously, what a waste of time. NM
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Responding to you is a waste of my time.
I do not waste my time responding to your political posts, and I will not waste my time arguing semantics with you. I would not associate with you in my personal life, and you are not worth my time and energy on this forum. I am afraid you will have to find someone else to listen to your nonsense.
dont waste your time on the
Federal Reserve Fox ploy . . . they are trying to make you lose the scent. Research Republican history of deregulation. Making the government so small they can drown it in the bathtub. Research McCain's countless statements of being pro-deregulation. Research the safeguards built into the system after the Great Depression and how they were dismantled by the republicans in the name of "free market forces."
It would be a waste of time to try to address
Do you folks never tire of being scared and scaring each other? There is bigotry and there is racism, both of which pervaded during this election cycle in the media and at pub rallies. To deny this is so is truly beyond ridiculous. Yours is a very small, dark world view, unfounded in reality and not worthy of further comment.
Waste of time and money!
Mailing hundreds, thousands, or hundreds of thousands of red envelopes is a waste of time and money. It is not going to have any effect on the abortion law, and the only winner is the post office. Can't you people think of more constructive ways to support a cause?
Waste of time, postage, and tea!
Don't you people have anything more important to do with your time and energy? Go volunteer to help those less fortunate than yourselves. You might even get some self-esteem out of it.
Why voting in the US is a complete waste of time
I've said it for years and years. This is an excellent article.
http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article7095.html
Might as well not waste time talking to the haters.
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Please do not waste our time with lies and insane allegations! nm
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Waste of time to argue with a simple mind
Here, I'll throw you a bone.......Palin.....ATTACK!!!!
P.S. Please scroll down after reading above post. Washington Post article included.
Reprinted in Boston Globe. Sorry!
You should really invest some time in reading...(sm)
What part of Hamas and Israel at war don't you understand.
Hamas = Islamic Resistance Movemement.
What part of Hamas terrorizing Israel don't you understand. What part of Hamas slaughtering and killing innocent citizens, women and children don't you understand.
You might want to check your facts on exactly who is doing the terrorizing.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28397813
Israel and Palestine 101:
http://www.masada2000.org/historical.html
To me it looks like you don't understand any of what is going on over there, therefore should keep your comments to yourself.
I think she has a perfect understanding of what's going on. The British basically just took (with UN approval) land from the Palestinians, called it Isreal, and have been backing Israel ever since, with, of course, the aid of the US. Why? Because it was in Great Britian's best interest, not because of Jews. This is the same reason the US backs Isreal. It gives us a foothold in the region (a constant threat, if you will). Many people consider it a holy place. Those people not only include Jews and Christians, but also Palestinians and Muslims.
In my opinion religion is being used in this case as a pretense for power and greed. People in this country seem to be okay with killing people so long as it's not in their backyard or is in the name of religion, but not so much for flat out greed, which is what this is all about.
I find it really odd that we are sooo scared of Iran getting nuclear weapons because they are supposed to be such a volitile nation (a democratic one at that), but we don't think twice about arming up Israel who has basically been at war since it was established (complete with terrorist attacks).
Oh, and by the way, this last little rampage was Israel's fault. They broke a cease fire only after 6 months, and are currently refusing another cease fire offered by the Palestinians.
Maybe you should find a more appropriate quote.
Perhaps your time would be better spent reading the
the Global Poverty Act Obama wants to shove down your throat..... you want the United Nations telling you or your family how to raise your children?
And for the poster who believes our constitution is better in the hands of Obama, ask yourself why he wants to destroy it and let the United Nations dictate our country......I don't recall seeing that anywhere in the constitution.
Now, it takes a while to get through all the throat slitting sickening stuff in there he wants for your country (United Nations' country)but you might understand where our constitutional rights are heading........
We stopped reading your posts a long time ago!
At that time, wasn't he reading a children's book?
Oy, with capital VEY.
I have been reading this post with
interest; amazing how we can agree on a lot of points. The comment from gp about old time democrats is often heard here, the trouble is that the parties have more or less changed places. The image of a guntoting bible thumping redneck used to be a bubba in his pickup who was a democrat, now it is a republican. From what I have been listening to the last year or so on late night and daytime radio, you are right, we are all screwed. supposedly, there are 350,000 UN troups already in place here. I believe they will be used to gather up all the guns. After that, we are sitting ducks like Australia, whose crime rate escalated over 300% the first year alone. We already have states who have made it against the law to defend yourself or children in your own home. Amazing. We have not been involved enough the last 20-30 years with our children's education, happily leaving it to others who mostly happen to be liberals. I understand a religious person can never hope to attain a spot somewhere like the Smithsonian; they are all agnostics now. Just saying what I have heard; can't verify. I am very afraid the wagons have already been circled and we just did not know we were in the center. Starting to suspect stronger each day that the whole election is a set up that goes back decades; they were just waiting for the star of the show to come along (Obama), not even that sure about McCain anymore. Furious over the bailout. Think how Clinton pardoned Ayers, how much he and O reportedly can't stand each other, yet he and H are out campaigning for him for the Party, of course. Death penalty: I suspect a lot more of us would be happy with Life meaning life imprisonment as opposed to death sentence, if it were really a life sentence and not a few years instead. Well, this election is almost over; my hopes are not very high given all the current events. Like an old friend used to say, "I just don't know what's to become of us all". Keep up the interesting posts, ladies.
Reading your post
You sound just as bad as the ones you call ignorant and nasty, just on the other end. I am intelligent, definitely not backwoods, and definitely not hateful or nasty, but Jesus Christ is still my Lord and Savior. Choosing to follow Christ is a spiritual, INTELLECTUAL, and emotional experience. All three have to be involved.
I stayed out of this "gay" argument because it's useless. But I feel I need to say something about a few things you pointed out.
First - Sodom and Gomorrah - It is very clear in Genesis 18 and 19 that the main sin of S&G was homosexuality. When the angels visited S&G, a group of men accosted them at Lot's house and wanted them to come out so they could "know" them. Now you may say "well that just means they wanted to know who they were" but in the next verse Lot offers his daughters to the men so they might leave the visitors alone. Clearly if they all lived in the same town they already knew who Lot's daughters were, and had no reason to meet them, if that is what "know" meant (King James Version).
You are absolutely right. You can take a verse out of the Bible and twist it anyway you want. Which is why it needs to be read in context.
Second, marriage was created as a representation of the relationship of God with the church (church being a group of people, not a building). The first marriage was Adam and Eve, by God Himself.
And last but not least, this hatred and spewing issue.
God does not, has not, and never will give us the right to be nasty to others. Jesus Christ COMMANDED us to love our "enemies". If anyone on here is professing to be a Christian and in the same breath being hateful or ugly, they need to check themselves NOW.
However, just stating an oppositional opinion is not hate or bigotry. But it should be done politely and without name-calling. There is a way to debate topics without being hateful!
I think the reason homosexuality and abortion gets attacked so much from "crazy delusional bible-thumpers" as some put it, is because it is so out in the open, and so socially accepted. What to do about that, I don't know.
It is unfair to ask us as Christians to take our faith off when we are outside our homes or churches though. It is not a cloak we can remove whenever we want. It is inside us, it is our life, and we have just as much right to live it and follow the commandments of our God then any other person in this country.
As for people saying that they have it shoved down their throats, I highly doubt it. If someone comes to the door and you don't want to hear it, just politely say "no thanks!". Or better yet, leave a note on your door that you don't want to hear it if you want!
I've said it before and I'll say it again: if you try to witness to someone or talk to them about Jesus and they don't want to hear it, SHUT UP. It doesn't do any good to push.
I don't agree with the ugly words and name-calling, but I have to say you did quite a bit of it in this post yourself, which I took offense to. Two wrongs don't make a right!
That being said, I understand you were upset and venting, so it's cool, but I would appreciate it if you could drop a few of the "delusionals," "twisted" and "backwoods" comments :)
I agree, and I enjoy reading your posts.
I agree, Sam. That poster actually is more scary
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That's excellent- I agree with poster below
you should write an article.
The only info from my DH's grandparents were that his grandather said his family couldn't afford shoes and his feet were always cold, and my his grandmother said she was always hungry.
I did buy a cookbook of the great depression era and there are a lot of stories/recipes from people of that time.
Agree. I don't know why the poster started
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I agree with the other poster. It IS garbage.
somewhat curious, considering the origin of the nose ring custom.
Thanks for your post...you are the poster child...
for liberal mindset. Practicing the ALinsky method of your party and your candidate...if you can't refute, attack.
Yes, I am an MT. Is THIS post supposed to make anyone believe you are an MT or belong in an MT forum? Surely this is not indicative of MTs et al??
Funny how presenting a different view is characterized as "bullying" when you are the poster child for personal attacks.
The last line of your post tells me more about your character than you think you know about mine.
Have a good day! :)
You don't like the post, talk to the poster above
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Please point out one post on this board where a poster agreed with
as you claim, "examining the adoption records of Roberts, casting aspersions that his 4-year-old son is gay, that HE is gay (Roberts) because he didn't marry until he was 40."
Please. Just one poster who said on this board that they agree with that.
You've proven that you're not here to debate. You're here to keep the fighting going. You were asked by Democrat to introduce a topic to debate. But you're too obsessed on trashing liberal posters. That's the only topic you've ever mentioned on this board 100 PERCENT OF THE TIME. Look at your posts. They're still here. That's the total extent of them, whining and complaining about the posts of liberals. There isn't ONE post on this board from you regarding an ISSUE.
Poster opened Post called "Swine Flu"
Your argument that the above poster was chosing sides is ludicrous. The title of this post is "Swine Flu" and since we are all MTs, why wouldn't she open it to read it to TRY to get some useful information. But that is such a waste of time on this board. I don't blame the above poster, and in fact, I think they are right on target.
An utter disrespect...
and sad statement is made in this video.
This is utter BS, but I'd take a socialist nm
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utter fool of herself. nm
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I'm sorry but that is utter nonsense!
This is America people. If you don't like our National Anthem or our flag being flown.......go back to whatever country you came from. For someone to say that the American flag is offensive......that just shocks me. We have lost our freedom to fly our own country's flag for fear of offending others. What has our country come to. This is America....that is our flag.....and it was a national holiday to remember veterans and she couldn't put an American flag out. I truly don't buy that there were other people who were offended by it either. What a crock.
I think I would go out and buy a small flag and put it on my desk and keep it there everyday. Screw that!
This time I agree it is sad
As Sam said, we need to hold Obama/Biden feet to the fire as I would have John McCain. Whether we voted for him or not, (I did) we are where we are and I always say if you get lemons make lemonaid. I said yesterday that I would send a congratulatory email and I will try not to be too long-winded. LOL I will make my points as to why I supported them and that I EXPECT them to keep their promises and DELIVER. I would urge everyone to do the same. If you didn't vote for them I urge all of you to let them know that you didn't and why. They will no doubt be seeking re-election in 4 years. The best contact I could find, I am posting a link below. I will continue to hold their feet to the fire and I know I can count on Sam to join me. I think it is well for those of you with concerns to address them. I will continue to keep updated and post any new information regarding contact and hopefully we'll all raise our voices STARTING RIGHT NOW.
http://answercenter.barackobama.com/cgi-bin/barackobama.cfg/php/enduser/ask.php
The very nerve!!! The utter gall!!!
Imagine McC hosting a dinner honoring Obama. NOT!
Your 2nd paragraph is complete and utter nonsense. sm
You wrote: 'Besides, a lot of atheists who try to disprove that God ever existed will usually come to the conclusion that there is too much evidence to prove that He does exist. It usually scares the you know what out of them and they become converts.'
And you know this how? I would say show me the evidence to back up this ridiculous claim, but I already know you have none. It's your opinion/religious propaganda, and it's blantantly false. You also have it backwards. You're implying people start out being athiest, then convert to religion. It's the other way around, when religious or secular people start questioning all the improbable/impossible things the bible is overflowing with, in addition to all of its inconsistenties and outright contradictions.
Forgive me if I doubt that you're an expert on athiests, and forgive me if I doubt your critical thinking skills, because religion frowns upon that - you're not supposed to question god or think for yourself, just obey his commands, or should I say, various human interpretations of his commands...
If there was indeed
'too much evidence to prove that He does exist' then everyone would believe in him. How could anyone deny it? They couldn't. But that's just it, there is no evidence to prove it, whereas there actually IS scientific evidence to the contrary, that you apparently are unaware of or haven't investigated.
Instead, you're willing to believe something based only on 'faith.' In every other area of your life where you'd want or even *demand* facts, proof, or concrete evidence before believing something so important, with religion (some) people are all too willing to blindly accept it on faith.
BTW, an athiest doesn't have to DISprove god (you can't prove a negative, anyway), you have to prove that he *does* exist, and you can't. And wouldn't you think if he really existed, he would prove it to the entire world's satisfaction anyway and put an end to the debate and all the relious wars, conflict, genocide, misery, suffering, etc? He'd rather we kill each over it? I think not. It makes no sense.
You also wrote: 'You can say all you want, but you just can't argue with a completely changed life'
Yes, I can argue it. You changed your life because *you* wanted to change it. You! Not some mystical, magical, invisible being in the sky who cares about your every thought and action. People change their lives for the better every day, without religion. IMO, if you hadn't found religion, you would've kept looking until you found something else that worked for you, and it probably would've been a lot healthier than the brainwashing, closed-minded, divisive phenomenon that is religion.
utter rubbish - show us the link
This is complete and utter nonsense. What study? One by democratic backers? Show me the link. The democrats have always been the "party dudes", usually you find more doped up, meth heads, war protesters, group hug type people voting democrat. They vote on looks and personality, not issues. Maybe when you said even keel instead you should have said "doped up to the state of oblivian". The conservatives have always been the party of free thinkers, small business owners, intellects, level headed, and open minded individuals. We look at both sides and listen to both opponents, and we are intelligent enough to decide who is throwing the "bull" around.
Every post I see on this board from a liberal is usually attacking personal and unimportant things (her daughter is pregnant, she was in a beauty contest, she had a down syndrom baby, she bought a tanning bed, she went to more than one school McCain is old, his wife is rich, Barack is good looking and his wife is pretty, he's a graduate of a law school, Biden (well nobody is saying anything about Biden - makes me wonder why). But all the issues I'm seeing by the liberals are all personality issues. Nothing of subtance. The messages I'm seeing from the conservatives are about issues. This is what Barack's policy will do, this is what McCain's policy will do, this is where Palin stands on this issue, etc.
utter nonsense - where in the world did you come up with this line
Been watching a little too much Dr. Phil I guess.
This is utter nonsense and if so then we better keep an eye on you with everything you've been saying.
Wow - you really got me that time. (not really sure WTH your post means but anyway) (sm)
I'm leaving, so if you have more to say to me, you'll be talking to yourself, and you're already weird enough, but if that's what you wanna do, knock yourself out.
Thank you for taking the time to post this!! :-)
awesome post
Thanks for taking the time to post
Sorry, forgot to add that. Have a good afternoon.
We have been saying this on the C board a long time. Agree. NM
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I agree. I do not think any jail time was warranted. (nm)
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You're obvious willingness to believe utter crap said it. nm
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I was being sarcastic.
i was being sarcastic...
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Yes, I was sarcastic...........sm
and with cause.
This is a forum where MTs come to discuss...guess what...POLITICS. These same MTs go to the other boards to discuss issues pertinent to the purpose of the other boards.
Like you said, we are not in the fifth grade anymore. A fifth grader knows that you go to the refrigerator to find the milk, not the oven.
I am not being sarcastic. I want to know
why you think we are "saved"? The O is a man, like I said before, not a miracle worker and not a savior. You have put him on a pedestal an he can do no wrong. I read a lot of your other posts and I think you are the sarcastic one. I'm just trying to get a decent discussion going on issues.
Jan, I think she is being sarcastic - nm
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Just a hint. Next time respond to a post,
read it first.
This isn't about the ACLU, or an agency LIKE the ACLU.
I think you would be hard pressed to find a liberal who agrees with NAMBLA or any organization like them that is in favor of sexual exploitation of children. I don't think prison is even good enough for them. I think they should get the death penalty.
Maybe if you would have actually taken the time to READ the post, you would see it has nothing to do with your response.
That's the second time you addressed something I didn't post. sm
I thought the Chickenhawk article was brilliant though. I wish I had posted it.
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