I agree with oldtimer. So in your eyes, we should go right in,
Posted By: no effort to resolve things first? sm on 2008-09-04
In Reply to: Ummm....people whose life centers around... - sam
In that case, I think your initial question was posed only in hopes of baiting an Obama supporter. I sure hope that's not the case.
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I agree wholeheartedly with you oldtimer -
My child struggles every week to pay her bills, her childcare, buy groceries for the kids - all on her own because at $10 an hour she makes too much to get any kind of help, but at the same time the doctors she works for are all driving nice new Hummers, Range Rovers, building million dollar buildings. And of course, they will be the first ones to complain about having to pay higher taxes.
I don't think that because she is their employee that she is working any less than them. Of course, they deserve to be paid good, but I think the "little people" who make it possible for you to run your business should get something along the line.
i agree... not too good on the eyes
but he was a cutie
ROFL!! Ewww...my eyes, my eyes! lol/nm
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oldtimer.....
Obviously you didn't see the interview with this doctor. There was no breech delivery with the cervix clamping down on anything. It was flat out a decision to abort a late-term pregnancy because the mother simply decided that is what she wanted. This murderer agreed to do these abortions and did them quite frequently. Now,if you want to believe that only well meaning doctors do these only for the reason you keep listing, go ahead, but the doc himself made it clear this was not a life or death situation, simply the mother deciding she no longer wanted the baby. The procedure he performed had absolutely nothing to do with necessity. It WAS to just "GET RID" of a viable baby in the true sense.
Now, you're saying this doctor didn't know what he was doing? These are murderers who perform these acts NOT OUF OF NECESSITY but for money, plain and simple, it's money. Mother didn't want the baby, so she found a doctor who obviously has absolutely no conscience at ALL and should be tried as a murderer.
He has not tried to hide the fact that he is performing these murders because he says the law is on his side.
to oldtimer
I totally agree with you...
Hey oldtimer, from another oldtimer!
I just wanted to thank you for posting the link to this article. I found it fascinating. It makes me feel more hopeful about the future of the USA, and it's nice to read an article on occasion that stimulates genuine thinking.
Oldtimer - I enjoy your
posts - don't let the extremists bum you out.
At least you were kind about it, oldtimer....sm
The three dems above you, are not kind at all.
Oldtimer, I know you are an Obama
supporter, and I am definitely not an Obama supporter. That aside, I tip my hat to you as you speak with more sincerity and maturity than anyone else on this board! Thank you.
BTW, I am probably an older timer than you!
amen, oldtimer! n/m
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Oldtimer was the original poster
You would have probably gotten that had you not been in such a hurry to jump my post. I have nothing to hide, nothing to get away with and see no real reason to dumb down the phrasology, tone or content of my posts. I respond in kind to to folks who have no real interest in viable political issues, are constantly in attack mode, have pronounced adversions to logic, reason and facts and who haul out the holier-than-thou, pious, elite accusations when trying to avoid any sort of intelligent discourse.
There will always be opposition around who can be as in-your-face as the you choose to be...or not. If I "bother" you somehow, so be it. Right wingers bother me too, but you don't see me going around trying to kick them off the board or telling them they post more than they should.
I've said it before and I'll say it again. Give respect and get respect. That's the way it works in the grown-up world. It's your choice.
I was speaking to you, "sm" not oldtimer. (nm)
That was kind of rude, oldtimer. nm
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You are definitely not a right-wing wacko, oldtimer!
I was not referring to anyone in particular as a right-wing wacko, especially you. In fact, I find your posts to be very thoughtful and intelligent.
You said it oldtimer! Obama won by majority and
It's time for people to back the new president and be patriotic. Stop the same old vitriol.
Ummm....Oldtimer has posted several times
You and I are on the same page when it comes to rude and inflammatory posts. I will be responding to them whenever the spirit moves me. You should do the same...or not. Whatever. BTW, I for one could give a rat's bottom about maintaining a "reputation" on a forum where many, many people make a choice to remain anonymous. It's just one of those things in life you have to learn to deal with. If name-calling and throwing tantrums gives you some sense of releif, go for it, but do not expect the target to go stand in the corner and hide out until you are done.
Ummm....Oldtimer has posted several times
You and I are on the same page when it comes to rude and inflammatory posts. I will be responding to them whenever the spirit moves me. You should do the same...or not. Whatever. BTW, I for one could give a rat's bottom about maintaining a "reputation" on a forum where many, many people make a choice to remain anonymous. It's just one of those things in life you have to learn to deal with. If name-calling and throwing tantrums gives you some sense of releif, go for it, but do not expect the target to go stand in the corner and hide out until you are done.
Sorry, oldtimer, sounds like passing the buck to me...
you would think you would want to clean your party up. But I guess not. Whatever, your choice. I do not turn a deaf ear to what any Democrats say on this board...I just refute what is not truthful. And they pound me pretty good as well. And as to tuning me out...do whatever makes you comfortable. It is a free country, after all.
But oldtimer...the fact remains...if those 94 democrats...
had voted yes, it would have passed ANYWAY, no matter what the Republicans did. enough Republicans voted for it that the 94 democrats would have made the difference. It would have passed. Not all republicans voted against it.
Oldtimer, it is used in late-term abortions. To get rid of babies.
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What MY Eyes see s/m
I'm about sick to death of every social ill being laid at the feet of smokers. I also have a big problem with lazy slobs who would rather mooch off the taxpayers than work but if they choose to spend their welfare on tobacco....or gambling....as many in this particular area do and go without food, that's their problem. Welfare is way out of hand. There is something wrong with the law that lets slobs get help they don't need and some elderly or truly diabled person can't qualify for any help because they have worked hard and have a few dollars in the bank. As far as I am concerned there was nothing wrong with the commodities that were issued instead of food stamps before the "new and improved" welfare program. Then they got what they needed to keep them alive and that was about it. So who changed the rules to allow the slobs to be able to buy all the good stuff while you have to skimp? You got it...politicians, Democrats AND Republicans.
If you're looking to either of these 2 candidates to change ANYTHING that will make it easier for you, or people like you, I think you're in for a real disappointment.
My eyes!
Wondering, could this have been caused by gazing upon the radiance of O's countenance without protective eye gear??
Truce? Not in my eyes
SM, I have not called a truce with you..just because another liberal has..she/he has every right to but not I..you have repeatedly over a few months attacked me personally and ideologically..you have started off debating and then after a few posts of debate have attacked me..I want nothing to do with you..a truce? For how long a day? and then you will start to attack again? Give me a break..There were many times you posted here and the posts were genuine, I thought, and then before you knew it..you could not stand it..the other poster was getting to you..so you would attack like a mad dog..like a fool and attack personally..I dont trust you..frankly, I dont like you..go back to the conservative board where you can attack liberal ideology and pat each other on the back, cause you cant handle really true debate with ideologies other than your own, your previous posts prove it..The only way you could prove to me you want a ****truce**** is to post a few posts that are not attacking and understanding that ALL AMERICANS HAVE A RIGHT TO DIFFERENCE IN OPINION AND DIFFERENT IDEOLOGIES AND NOT ALL BELIEVE IN CONSERVATIVE VIEWS AND YOU STILL RESPECT THEM AS AMERICANS..I dont think you can do it..You dont have it in you..You are obsessed with changing peoples opinions and ideologies and it isnt gonna happen, not through attacks and hateful posts, as you have done..
open your eyes
and you believe this? Democrats misleading the public? OMG, this administration has mislead us on everything and lies all the time..there is nothing you can believe about this administration cause their only cause is for big business and to pay back those who had Bush in their pockets for the election. An administration who says Intelligent Design should be taught and there is no such thing as global warming? Well, gotta tell ya, the reality is..the middle class is being squeezed and the rich are getting richer..I have a friend who was born with a major silver spoon in his mouth and he too agrees, as Clinton does, that the tax breaks are only going to the rich..I have never received a tax break yet I pay quite a bit in taxes..As you defend the republican ideology, the country around you disintegrates..Im so sorry for you, however, you will be there in the ditches with us when everything falls apart and where will Bush be, LOLOLOLOL, in his protected ranch..OPEN YOUR EYES..Nothing in this administration helps the working class/middle class.NOTHING.
Easy on the eyes?
Are you kidding me?
It was me and, yep , I said it. Easy on the eyes!
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You need to open your eyes.......
We have Muslim people in our church. They will be the first to tell you that are so glad to be out of the country where this is forced upon them. They will be the first to tell you the Q'ran does not speak of love one another, only love another Muslim. They will be the first to tell you that Westerners do not really know the full extent of the hatred that is taught to the men/sons. They will be the first to tell you they are so glad they learned there is really a God that says to love ALL, love your family members even if they are non-believers, and to love those that hate you. Islam does not teach that. You can yack on and on all you want but you can't show me anything verses that say otherwise. They more than you know the Q'ran back to back and will say it does not speak of love of others and to hate all; Jews, Christians, and nonbelievers.
Sadly, why do you assume those that have denounced Islam don't know their feelings of what they have been through more than you?
You immediately jumped to Christians. Why is that? There are those that have left countries where this is taught, do not accept Christianity, but have denounced what they were taught because it is hate.
You need to get off your anti-Christian bandwagon.
The world through the eyes of
country music. LOL!
FOR DEMOCRATS' EYES ONLY sm
Did someone forget to tell the rabid republicans that Obama won? Did someone forget to tell them how Palin made a fool out of McCain? This is too hysterical for words. I have to admit, I am really gloating here. Watching all those formerly red states turn blue.... that was amazing. Also, even if they are rabid creepublicans, they will still benefit from the changes Obama will make. Send me a private email if you wish to gloat along with me. These ladies are not very flexible, patriotic or bright. I truly think it is time for everyone to back our new president and stop spreading the hate.
Open your eyes. It is all over
Look at Lou Dobbs main page.
In the eyes of the beholder
1. I am not going to decide if she is beautiful or not. That is not my place.
2. I see nothing with the way that she dresses because I have a couple of my sister's kids, who believe me gives me sleepless nights with their fashion sense, but I love them and I think they are the most beautiful people I have ever seen.
3. As a woman, I look in the mirror every day and find things that if I had a good platic surgeon and money.....need I say more? (I would be the nip/tuck queen)....lol but since I do not, then I take the alternative route in believing that I am beautiful (hubby helps by telling me how beautiful I am too even though I know that I am at least 40 pounds overweight).
4. When I look at the picture the only thing that comes to mind is that "she does look healthy" and I would like to find myself in that same position.
5. I suppose it is easy to find fault with others rather than find what is beautiful in someone, but I have NEVER did like the easy way of doing things. Have a good one folks.
My old eyes, could barely see them either, but if you highlight
them then you can see them better.
Fool? In whose eyes, right wingers, LOL
Fool in your eyes, not in the majority of this country..I kind of am glad Bush is messing up so much, come election next year, you bet there will be many Americans who will think twice before voting for republicans..
Take your eyes and gaze up ONE post.
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WARNING: NOT FOR CONSERVATIVE EYES - REALLY
http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/04/25/7441/ The Washington Post link in this article is good as well.
What is sad is you wont even open your eyes to
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The first time I laid eyes on SP on TV, I was sure that SNL
The likeness was pretty incredible! I was disappointed Obama wasn't on it, but he did the right thing by putting it off, what with Hurricane Ike and all. Anyway, that's pretty much the only thing I like about SP - is that she'll provide so much inspiration to the writers at SNL this season. She's pretty easy to make fun of.....
That's the one word I noticed. Look into my eyes...
Follow me and you will be granted three wishes...but not before I publish my next book, sit down with terrorists and chat, be romanced by the mainstream media (oops I hope I don't get punished with a baby), and mark myself as present in the Oval office all while I am working on padding my pockets on some dirty Rezko deal. I could go on, but, well, you know, I am so modest.
That surely should open some eyes. (sm)
I sure hope the constituents of those candidates see these videos and boot the jerks out. I also think they should be arrested and put in the slammer, plus pay back all the money they received from FMFM, and definitely never be able to run for public office again.
Stuff like this makes me furious. They are supposed to be working for us, not themselves.
Maybe it's time to dig deeper into the whole government, and weed all these guys out, whether pubs or dems. Don't matter.
And democrats will not open their eyes and think
objectively.
Yep, but you won't get the bunch of blind eyes on
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That woman has crazy eyes . . .
You know when you can see the whites of the eyes all around the iris. Them's crazy eyes.
please open your eyes - you mistated yourself
I am old enough to remember the 60s. This is not the 60s. This is also not the Vietnam war. This is a whole different and new set of problems (we have AL Queda, Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, Terrorist who want to see our country destroyed and is most likely possible they have found a way to do it. What better way than to get one of theirs to be our next president. Not to mention all the social and other issues going on today. How I wish it was the 60s again. Life seemed so simple back then (actually I wouldn't mind the 40s/50s).
There is proof Obama was "best buds" with Ayers. Haven't you been reading all the information, watched the videos, read the documentation of eye witnesses, or are you believing only what Obama says... "he was a guy who happened to be in my neighborhood". Obama is running for President. Of course he's going to say that.
Also your statement is incorrect. Ayers is NOT a respected professor (unless you believe that it was okay to do the criminal activities he did). Sure I did some things in my 20s I wouldn't want to be judged on today, but Ayers was just interviewed and he said he is not sorry and that not enough terrorist activies were committed. He also said America makes him want to throw up. Those are his feelings of today - not when he was in his 20s.
You have got to open your eyes! What is wrong with Hillary for President or any one of the other candidates. Why Obama? My husband told me today that you could have on film Obama stabbing people over and over and clearly on film and there are still people who will vote for him and say so what?
Racist is in the eyes of the beholder.
I believe that blacks and mixed racists did not exactly ASK to be put in the position to "pick" a side. Furthermore, as long as the oppression of open racism and bigotry is alive and well in the good ole USA, I am afraid they will continue to do wo.
LOL - Hazel eyes - we never get a break
is it me or is the whole world going nuts!
Whew!! Brown eyes here. (sm)
But ya know what they say about people with brown eyes, so we're not safe, either. 
yes, tell me WHAT is in your eyes a REAL AMERICAN?
Somebody who puts up 100 flags in his home and 10 in his office?
My eyes are wide open, but I do not see
things the way you want me to see them.
well of course...how silly of me...don't bring up the timber in our eyes...
concentrate on the splinter in my own. Got it. LOL.
Better cover your eyes, if you're so squeamish.
Change the World.......has opened my eyes to his
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