I've decided too
Posted By: gourdpainter on 2008-09-18
In Reply to: NOW supporting Obama/Biden... - MTPockets
I've made my decision too but for different reasons. I believe nothing I read and only half of what I see. I decided on what I heard directly from the candidates own mouths. Palin is a simpering airhead in my opinion. I will drag my feet to the polls and cast my vote for Obama hoping that he will do less harm than McCain. I say no McCain/Palin. I think that once the new wears off Palin we'll see a lot of people who will agree with me. Surely the American people are more intelligent than to put someone in power that only knows that Russia is her neighbor.
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We've decided to sit back and watch
turn the forum back over to the tribal warriors. Our work is done here. For the record, he'll be raising taxes ON HIMSELF, for Pete's sake.
Well, I've decided not to
post on their precious board any more, even though they won't like it. They thrive on hatred and attacks. They've been baiting people all week with their constant, unrelentless, vicious attacks on liberals. When someone gives them a taste of their own medicine, they run to the monitor.
You know, the whole concept of "their" thinking the three of us is only one person is very interesting. A very intelligent person told me a long time ago that if someone accuses you of doing something, it's probably something they are themselves doing. Maybe all three of these "people" is really only just one person with a severe personality disorder. The more outlandish things I read that "they" write, the more I'm inclined to think that might be true. One thing for certain, there are some very sick people out there, and they probably deserve pity more than disdain. "They" certainly do have some startling, somewhat scary traits, and I kind of wish now that GT hadn't put her email address out there for some of these nuts to have access to. I hope they don't begin to stalk her, but hatred is a very strong emotion, and some of these "people" clearly don't seem to be very stable.
Like I said, I'm staying away from their board. It's much easier to breathe on this board, and the intellect is certainly better.
Decided, but if
I have been an ardent supporter of Senator Obama since February of this year. I have donated $25 a month to his campaign since then. First time in my life that I have felt that level of committment to a candidate for any office. If I were still undecided at this point, the thing that would sway me to vote for Obama would be the tone of his campaign. As in the primary, Senator Obama makes it very clear what his policies are. He is able to uplift his ideas without constantly talking in a negative manner about his oponent. He does not get personal in his attacking of his opponents' ideas and stances. His way of waging his campaign makes it possible for him and his opponent to come together and work for the benefit of our nation when all the politicking is over....as he and Senator Clinton are now doing. Senator McCain is so harsh and personal in his attacks on Obama. Senator McCain has said things that he knows are not true of Senator Obama; he has allowed Governor Palin to utter comments that would made it very difficult for them to work with a Congress and Senate that is composed of both Democrats and Republicans. I know that his back is to the wall, but he should be mindful (as it appears to me Senator Obama is mindful) that the end goal here is successfully governing our nation. Senator McCain's torched earth policy on the campaign trail would make it impossible for him to govern in cooperation with others. So, if I were still undecided at this point Senator Obama would have my vote because he is playing the election game with dignity, respect and the realization that whoever wins, we all still must be able to work together.
I have decided to vote
for all the republicans I can. I've always been the type of person to look at all candidates in both parties and decide which is the better of the two. However, I'm voting straight republican this election. My grandma always told me that you never want the oval office and the congress controlled by the same party. I'm a middle of the road person and I don't want to go extreme left or extreme right so I think we need a little bit of both. So I will be voting for as many republicans as I can to try and keep the left side from totally taking over. We need some right sided people to help keep things in the middle of the road so things don't go extreme left.
I decided the same thing!
If we end up with O in the White House, we need all the Republicans we can to balance things out. I don't usually vote straight Republican, but I am this time around.
I decided to do some research
on the birth certificate. I believe any reasonable person can examine the birth certificate at this website and conclude that Obama's b/c is authentic. http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html
Maybe you could stop trashing him until you see what he actually does and please....quit reading all those blogs that have not a shred of useful information in them. Learn to reason for yourself.....please!
P.S. Who decided he was the perfect one
to run for president anyhow? There were candidate s much more qualified than O that could have run away with the votes if they were "chosen" by the party...but they chose someone who was only a senator for what, less than 2 years? Why? I would love to know how the party choses their candidates to run for president. Something doesn't smell right here.
I agree. It was the TERRORISTS who decided...
...to attack on 9/11. Likewise, it will be the TERRORISTS who will decide when and how to attack again.
I don't believe this has anything to do with WHO the President is, so while Bush shouldn't take the blame, he also shouldn't claim the credit for what the TERRORISTS HAVEN'T done. It's the timetable of the TERRORISTS that controls what does or doesn't happen.
The Republicans felt that another terror attack would be helpful to McCain's campaign (they came out and said so). I don't recall any Democrat uttering anything so UGLY in regards to Obama.
Are you still here? I thought you decided to leave...sm
or are you already back again?
I decided to let it drop b/c it won't let me post sm
THE CUSS WORDS I WANTED TO ADDRESS TO THE IDIOTS. Thank you to everyone else who had kind words. I hope no one ever has to go through what I did.
The left has decided to make it about the teenager...
she is the one who is pregnant after all. It is each person's choice whether to take the high road or throw stones. If Sarah Palin's daughter had decided to have an abortion the left would have used that against her as well. Everyone knows that.
See...that is the problem here. The left thinks they know the common person, the "right," the middle class middle AMerica folks who have family values...anyone who thinks those kinds of people would attack a pregnant teenager in this fashion no matter what party her mother is in...does not know nor understand these people.
This perceived weapon that the left has picked up may well harm their candidate, because no matter how many times he cries foul, there are still his followers who want to go there. So we are left with two ways to view that. Either Obama is political posturing, does not believe what he said, and in the trenches is telling his people "sic her," or he is genuinely affronted by this and his followers are paying him no heed. Either way...it will reflect badly on his candidacy.
Guess that will be decided in the media circus
These links are not just guilt by association pieces like Rev Wright. They are containing words straight out of her mouth. Libs approach to research a little different than Christian Right.
Who gives a rip about local news in an already-decided state?
That's why the polls are NATIONAL polls, duh!
And I don't know what you're implying by your virus comment. Grow the he!! up already.
Has the country decided not to hold any more elections
Was 2008 the very last election? I thought every four years there is an election. I also thought, according to past elections, that people should not just assume someone will win. They assumed Gore would win and he didn't, they assumed Kerry would win and he did not. Hence I would not assume Obama will win a second term. If he turns out to be a good president and we still have elections in 4 years, and nothing happens between now and then, then and only then will he most likely be re-elected. But since the guy has not even been sworn in yet and made any major decisions I would not be so bold as to just go on like he's going to be in for eight years. There is that slight possibility that he could very well be a crappy president like Bill Clinton and Jimmy Carter (especially with all the people he is picking for his cabinet). I know the country is ready for a change and GW hasn't been the best, but until a man serves in the office we don't know what kind of a president he will be.
Unless of course you have heard something that none of us have heard and there will never be any more elections in the future. I have heard and read that Obama is a socialist, and maybe we are heading toward the same thing Cuba faces. The leader just appoints himself to the office every time. So maybe that is what you are referring to.
I decided to stop posting on this issue,
because it's becoming a troll.
But Barack's mother decided to send her son, when he was 11
years old,back to Hawaii to her mother.
Since then Obama was educated in America.
How much did Barack Obama think about foreign policy before he decided to run...?
I would say...none. There is certainly no proof that he DID, that is why he chose Biden. So, if HE has to make a crucial decision that does not involve voting present or yelling at Michelle for spending $10,000 to send their kids to camp, or which Britney Spears designer to use for his next big speech...what's he gonna do? All I can say is, if he is elected, he better put Biden on speed dial or handcuff him to himself. You act as if your guy is ready!! And no one has to keel over for HIM to be in charge...he is in charge on day 1. Yeah, THAT IS scary!!
I don't know in what alternate universe you think Karl Rove is advising him. Karl Rove and John McCain detest each other. Have you not paid ANY attention these last few years??
The court has decided. The plaintiff just doesn't like the ruling. nm
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Don't ya'll pay attention? The Popes (past and present) had already decided this.
...Madsen, a Washington-based writer and columnist, who often writes for Counterpunch, says that people close to the pope claim that amid these concerns, the pontiff wishes he was younger and in better health to confront the possibility that Bush may represent the person prophesized in Revelations. John Paul II has always believed the world was on the precipice of the final confrontation between Good and Evil as foretold in the New Testament.
Before he became pope, Karol Cardinal Wojtyla said, "We are now standing in the face of the greatest historical confrontation humanity has gone through. I do not think that wide circles of the American society or wide circles of the Christian community realize this fully. We are now facing the final confrontation between the church and the anti-Church, of the Gospel versus the anti-Gospel."
Yeah, just heard today he decided to cut his vacation short to deal with the
huricaine. Sheesh.
Can't chew gum. Would've if I could've.
Even got hypnotized. Supposedly guaranteed to quit. Lasted 5 hours. Thank heavens I never smoked anything stronger. 
Something I've got to say
I left this board a while back for a period of time due to the harassing emails I was getting from the former owner of this site. It finally stopped when I told her that in the 10 years I had had email service I had never received such harassing or threatening emails and come to think of it, prior to her emails to me I had never received ANY harassing or threatening emails. I told her if they didn't stop that I would find the proper resources to report her conduct. She was angry because myself and two other posters were emailing to each other upset about the rampant deletion of liberal posts. Apparently when we used the initial MTstars email form she was reading them. In the course of her emailing me she also told one very obvious and easily discovered lie. The whole thing was creepy.
Just wanted to get that off my chest.
Yes, I certainly would. I've seen a lot of sm
so-called religious people do some very non-religious things. Remember, an atheist does not believe in Satan or worship the devil either, it just means that they do not believe in God, any God. Also, they may perhaps just not believe in organized religion.
You really believe that? Hey, I've got a really - sm
cool-looking, orange-colored bridge in San Francisco I'll sell ya really CHEAP. It's a little old and rusty, but polish it up a little, and you could probably resell it on ebay and make yourself a tidy profit. And profit's what you guys are all about, right?
Well, I've had it. sm
The hate that flies on this board is absolutely unbearable. I came to this board to compare issues of both parties and what do I see? A few people trying to give facts and get bombarded with HATE. I feel sorry for them and so CHILDISH.
What is worse is that some posters are falling into the trap by answering with just as hateful messages.
I am going happily on my way to find another place to compare issues and it WON'T BE WITH TRASH MEDIA as some are trying to force down my throat.
My mind has probably been made up for this election and I certainly won't be voting for Obama since I've seen some posters spew their hate against the republicans, although I do like Biden.
It's a shame.
That's what I've been trying to do --
gain information. It's very difficult to get accurate information without all the slams. Any suggestions on good websites to review these topics of interest and what each candidate's stand is on each? I've started watching CNN. I have to admit, I was really a Hillary supporter and now that Obama's on the ticket instead, I just don't know which evil is worse. I thank you for your input and I will continue to delve into this mess until I can come up with my own conclusion. I'm just trying to gain information from all angles, not relying on just 1 opinion. I asked the question below of everyone, but no one responded.
Does no one know the answer? Is it ridiculous of me to think that the resolution to this crisis should not dig into my pockets? I personally feel that the people who got those bonuses should be made to give them back, that they should be paying fines to offset this mess since they were the ones cooking the books for the bonuses.
Yes, and that is exactly what I've been saying
one is no better than the other.
that's the best you've got?
Old story, and not an impressive one. I don't like hearing any story like that, ever. It's no better than Clinton, but wasn't it the Dems who said that personal "affairs" were just about sex and meant nothing? We don't know if Biden cheated or not, do we? I don't know, but I hope not.
The Obama-Ayers-Wright-Pfleger (and on and on) affairs are far more detrimental to this country, so wake up and smell the coffee.
Can't say as I've ever used that one.
I guess she could have used terminology from Scooby Doo episodes. Jinkies, Mr. Biden. LOL.
That's because that's all you know....they've been
call it racism. Why do you think Obama will get the majority black votes? Because they think for themselves? Please... I have a black neighbor who says too many blacks have been led around by the nose by people like Jesse Jackson, AL Sharpon, and now says this Judas Barry Obama is showing up. She is not so easily fooled but she feels like her race has been sold down the river by this man. Instead of encouraging them, he wants to give them more handouts and keep them down, so they can continue to feel "entitled" becaues of their color.
Too bad so many others are.
LOL Now you've really done it!!!
Added everything I love. I grew up on this chow and swore when I was "growed up" I would never eat it again. Guess what? I'll take that stuff over steak any day of the week. Now I gotta make a Sweet 'tater pie!!!! Didn't get anything to eat, we were planning for cooking for the re-enactment group that will be doing their re-enactment here the first weekend in Dec.
Is that all you've got?
I read the board, I read the blogs, I watch TV, I listen to my relatives. So yes, I think that gives me a good idea.
Yes, he has. Where've you been?
Do you think the Dems would've let him run if he could be disqualified? Do you think McCain wouldn't have made it front and center if his high-paid dirt-diggers could've found ANYTHING? Just because you wish it to be true doesn't make it true.
Like i've said before
Anyone who didn't have their heads in the clouds, drinking the kool-aid, out of fear, or just flat out ignorant could have seen him for what he really was loooong before now. Whites have done what is right, but make no mistake, I owe no one anything and never did.
There are many racists who will take this opportunity to exploit everything.......sadly enough Obama has gotten right in line with them. When you start using MY taxes to pay for "projects" and you say what color the people have to be that work on those projects, there is a word for that.
Just keep tuned.....his true colors are there
I probably would. I've been there and like it.
Trade houses? LOL
sm....You've go to know that....
You've got to know that I have truly BEEN THERE, DONE THAT, or I would be keeping my mouth/fingers shut/quiet - lol! On my 18th birthday, I moved out of home. I have a military dad (marine) and no longer wanted to live a military-style household.....so I left. I did not have a place to go, so stayed with my cousins for a bit. I ended up moving into a duplex with a friend of my cousin's husband - I did not even know the guy. We split rent on this duplex and worked opposite shifts...so it was like each of us having our own place. I was really "full of myself" because I was working FT with my own place to stay....so I went a little crazy on the "partying," and ended up pregnant myself, just a few months after leaving home. I WAS ON BIRTH CONROL PILLS, but antibiotics I was on at the time had contradicted the efficacy of my BCPs. Shortly after suspecting (but without confirmation) I was pregnant, my roomate and I had a disagreement and he threw me out! I was then homeless and most likely pregnant. I went to the Health Department and got a free pregnancy test, and my hypothesis was confirmed. So....I was HOMELESS and PREGNANT and had been on BIRTH CONTROL pills. I could have gotten a FREE ABORTION on your TAX PAYER DOLLARS but, instead, I got a second job, applied for food stamps, found a cheap apartment in a bad part of town, and had my baby. I then worked my way up to bigger and better things, but I did not take the EASY WAY OUT and ABORT/KILL my baby. People are soooo lazy!!! The easy way - or no way at all.....is how most people look at life these days. Our forefathers worked the earth to provide food....but everyone today wants that quick burger or veggie fix - no time to waste. WHEN I WAS ON BCP'S, I STILL COULD HAVE USED A SECONDARY FORM OF PROTECTION!!! There is not a single person in this forum that was not given a WARNING about the RISK OF PREGNANCY WHILE ON BIRTH CONTROL PILLS when you got your prescription. Sorry.....but everyone's "sob stories" over trying to JUSTIFY ABORTION are truly PATHETIC. I am sorry for your daughter, but she apparently overcame, and now you have a BEAUTIFUL and WONDERFUL grandchild that may one day grow up to be PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!!! Why would anyone want to ABORT something like that? (P.S. I had a very hard time with my second pregnancy also, and raised two children WITHOUT CHILD SUPPORT, but I will not go into that story at this time. I have been "advised" by others to have abortions, but chose to preserve my morality and continue to regard life as PRECIOUS. Life is not a BED OF ROSES.)
I'm m......... I've always been m...... sm
and I'll always be m. I don't mind getting slammed for my beliefs...I'm kind of used to it. LOL
Thank you!!! - that's what I've been trying to say
Some people have no clue though. They think if Obama is doing it, it's okay. They don't care about right or wrong. I'm truly disgusted that our tax money is going to fund their parties for their own pleasure. Especially since everyone who attends their parties are rich enough they could pay for it themselves, but instead they use our money.
I've been researching trying to find anything that says they are paying for it themselves, but not finding anything. I found something about a white house budget, but again that budget is funded by taxpayers money.
Since it's my taxpaying money you bet I've got a problem with how they are spending it. Especially in these hard times and what America is going through.
What was it Marie Antoinette said "If they have no bread let them eat cake". I'm starting to see a similarity here.
You've got some of it right
I am prior military and this is the way it works.
Pentagon asks the President for the okay to proceed. The president simply states yay or nay. When you say "outlining a mission" if you are referring to the actual planning of it, no the President does not have anything to do with the plans, but he is informed by the leaders of how the scenario will work out and then he agrees or not. The military leaders are the ones who create the plan and enforce it (complete the action).
The problem with what happened during the Bush years was that Bush trusted the wrong people. When he was told by a group of people that this was there or that was there, he believed them and did not question. One thing that was learned from that was to question everything.
But a lot of people are under the mistaken identity that the president sits and plans the mission out with the military leaders, and he does not. He listens to them and then just okays it.
Seriously? That is the best you've got?
How very, very pathetic.
I've always said................ sm
Yank that Golden Fleece Retirement Plan and see how fast they get things fixed. Chances are slim to none that that will ever happen, but a person can dream.
I've said this before and I will say it again.
It seems to me that liberals are the ones crying and whining abour their rights. Just like people telling government to stay out of their uteruses. You didn't seem to have a problem with hospitals and doctors' rights when they were taken away when they were forbidden to refuse performing abortions. You didn't have a problem with those rights being taken away. You complain about Christians taking rights away from others. We are the ones who aren't allowed to pray in public without fear of being made fun or just outright attacked these days. But for you to say that we are the ones who have no problems taking away rights from others when you liberals have no problems taking away rights of other people as long as you get your way.......talk about your double standards.
These people were not forcing others to listen to their Bible study. There is no reason why they can't have Bible study in a private home.
You kept complaining about conservatives wanting revenge against terrorists and that is why we are for enhanced interrogation but here yourself you say that you normally would have sympathy but because of their group doing things you don't agree with, you have no sympathy. Is this revenge on your part? This group doesn't believe like you and doesn't agree with a liberal agenda and so therefore it is okay for them to be attacked for having a Bible study in a private home? Once again....double standards.
I don't think we've gone as far
He may not be prosecuted, but if the person who placed that ad can be identified, he's in for a very thorough federal proctological exam.
I've seen...
similar figures here and there and considering the era probably correct as anyone can guesstimate. I wasn't completely understanding the thread initially (short on time), now I do. Thanks.
Now you've done it.....LOL..(sm)
They'll be getting the pitchforks and guns![](http://static.iminent.com/toolbar/contents/images/emoticons/Messages/1.gun.gif") right about now.
As I've said before - you really don't want to
But, more to the point, Republicans haven't been interested in what goes on in anyone else's bedroom for a very long time, so this author needs to wake up and smell the coffee. This isn't just "old hat" stuff - it's completely moldy - and besides, isn't this author getting into the Governor's bedroom habits? Doh!
Both Democrats and Republicans need to hold our leaders up to standards that at least meet the test of decency.
You've never debated
you've just slammed Bush and anyone who likes Bush. Point to one thread where you've debated someone like an adult without resorting to the worlds idiots puke and other assorted adjectives up to and including curses words to slam Bush and people who like him?
GT I've noticed something
the more you get your hackles up your limited vocabulary becomes that much more limited.
I've moderated nothing
I've only broken it down to the simplest form to try and make you understand. We're having a debate which makes any political board interesting, and I'm not the least bit angry at you all, but you all seem very angry with me. It's really sad that adults can't come to opposing viewpoint boards and have civil conversations. It really is quite boring. It really shows what a sad state are culture is in. Our culture endorses immaturity and touchy feelings which is quite sad. I'll wander back to the other boards I frequent where people manage to debate (most of the time) without getting all snitty at the people with opposing viewpoints.
God bless....
No! You've got it all wrong!!
Bush has the utmost respect for the media. Why, if it wasn't for the media, Bush wouldn't even have known that he's been selected for jury duty. (Of course, he's got expertise in getting out of things requiring *duty* to his country, so he won't be Juror #200-whatever this time around. The good news is the no court will have to suffer through Bush's *judgments,* which leads me back to Iraq.
Bush would never do anything to impede freedom of speech. He wants all Iraqis to have freedom of speech. He loves freedom of speech (except maybe for that time he wanted to blow up Al Jazeera, before Blair talked him out of it).
And Bush would NEVER condone paying for what's nothing more than propaganda promoting something he thinks is good (except maybe for that time he paid radio talk show host Armstrong Williams $241,000 to promote the *No Child Left Behind* program on his radio show).
Hmmmmmmmmm... MY BAD. You don't have it wrong at all. Matter of fact, you're right on the money! 
Looks like you've been swiftboated, PK
It's sad, really, but perhaps you did strike a nerve, as independent thinking is a dangerous threat to little brains who rely on shrieking bubble heads such as Coulter to do their thinking for them. Well let's read a few Coulter quotes, shall we?
**We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity. We weren't punctilious about locating and punishing only Hitler and his top officers. We carpet-bombed German cities; we killed civilians. That's war. And this is war.**
**When contemplating college liberals, you really regret once again that John Walker is not getting the death penalty. We need to execute people like John Walker in order to physically intimidate liberals, by making them realize that they can be killed, too. Otherwise, they will turn out to be outright traitors.***
COULTER: I take the biblical idea. God gave us the earth.
PETER FENN (Democratic strategist): Oh, OK.
COULTER: We have dominion over the plants, the animals, the trees.
FENN: This is a great idea.
COULTER: God says, Earth is yours. Take it. Rape it. It's yours.
FENN: Terrific. We're Americans, so we should consume as much of the earth's resources...
COULTER: Yes! Yes.
FENN: ... as fast as we possibly can.
COULTER: As opposed to living like the Indians.
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