I've been asked "What is bootstrap mentality?"
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What is bootstrap mentality? nm
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Bootstrap mentality post betting buried in the mud.
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I've never been asked either.
I was quite shocked really. The first time I went to vote I had my voter registration card on me and my driver's license to show them, but they never asked. Then when I told them that my address had changed, they didn't ask for proof of that, they just marked out my old address and wrote in my new one. Too easy to mess with the system and that was in a small hillbilly town. I can't imagine how easy it would be in a huge town.
If Obama would've come out and asked
to postpone the debate, you would be up in arms..."Barack doesn't want to debate!" or worse. Give me a break. They can debate AND vote for the bill. Remember airplanes!? Talk about grandstanding. JM politicizes EVERYTHING!! Gets old.... no inuendo intended.
"what are we to do?"
"What are we to do?" How about drilling for our own oil? Allowing us to use nuclear energy?
You certainly seem to have the inroads to "what Barack would say.."
lol. But your comment hits the nail on the head...no one (at least not many) were fooled by the "performance." See...that is what I don't get about politics. Just a few weeks ago Obama was not the man for the job, not ready, Biden said it, Hillary said it, Bill said it. So they were lying then or they are lying now. And Biden said he would be proud to be on a ticket with John McCain and last night he questioning his judgment. Frankly, I think that stinks from a basic human level. I don't believe a word he says now. Who knows what he REALLY thinks?? Same for Bill and Hillary. I sure don't think there was a mass epiphany and all of a sudden they were convinced he IS the man for the job. Toeing the party line, putting that ahead of everything else. It happens on both side...yes. But I have never seen it as bad as this. That campaign was virulent, and now they say kum ba ya, yeah he's ready, we were just lying then; yeah, McCain was my friend and I would have been proud to run with him, now he sucks big time, believe me now, not then, and if I change next week, believe me then too. And the thing is...THEY DO. (shaking head)
What do you mean "what Obama disaster"
Haven't you been keeping up with the news. He doesn't need to take office for all the disasters that are heading our way. Unfortunately this is not going to be taken care of before he gets in the office and if you think things are bad now, just wait.
The Obama disaster? Should be the Obama disasters. There are many more than just one.
Maybe you should read the post "What is HSUS"...
http://www.activistcash.com/organization_overview.cfm/oid/136
"Scary." "Totally whacked." "What is she...
SMOKING (Or drinking?)"
Did I forget any of the personal insults directed at me?
All I said was "Don't count your chickens before they're hatched."
If January 20, 2009 comes and goes without a "terra attack" and if the new President is sworn in without incident, then all the chickens will be "hatched."
However, if none of the above happens, then there's one egg that hasn't hatched, and it's likely to be very ROTTEN. 
Regarding your personal insults, they weren't necessary, and they were just plain rude and totally inaccurate. However, if you choose to think so wrongly about ME (someone you don't know and have never met), then that gives me a pretty good handle on your the accuracy expressed in your other posts.
Have a great evening. 
yes, I asked you...but I asked you a specific question...
about the peace movement. I asked why you did not take your ideals to the real enemies of peace...and your answer was that you leave them to God but will instead preach to us not to fight them, even when they bring the fight to us. So be it.
We will agree to disagree.
I did not personally call you a whiner. As to who sent the military...I will say one thing. When you join the military, you take an oath. That oath has been posted here. You are under no illusions. You know that you may be called to war. It is an all voluntary army over there now. There is no draft. No one is over there because they were forced to go.
As to the people sending having never been...what has that got to do with anything?It was not just George Bush and Dick Cheney, Lurker. It was Congress. Many in Congress do have relatives, even sons and daughters, in Iraq. Have you read the resolution? It is very clear. They knew exactly what they were signing and exactly what it meant. I do not buy the lied to hooey. The Senate and House intelligence committees got the same briefings, or at least enough briefings to vote for the resolution. If they did not (in their own words) use due diligence before signing off on that resolution, whose fault is that? Certainly not Dick Cheney's or George Bush's.
Where were all these people when Clinton was calling for regime change? Because he was a Democrat they will follow him to war? You will see why I do not buy into their rhetoric.
And while I understand your big picture, as I have said over and over and you have never addressed, that will work only if the others in the big picture wish it to work. And if you honestly feel that God wishes that you lay down and let this country be overrun by terrorists, then so be it. I am not of the same mind.
The big difference is that I believe, as did Americans at the time of the Revolution, and that Americans did at the time of the Civil War...and that even some Americans did at the time of Viet Nam...some things are worth dying for. Most of our volunteer military feels the same.
When that is no longer the case, if you are successful in robbing that sense of patriotism from the generations to come without changing the minds of the enemies, where they feel that nothing is worth dying for...in my mind that will only bring death quicker, not keep it at bay, and the loss of the greatest nation on the face of this earth.
So, we agree to disagree.
God bless.
The exact quote is "What a terrible thing to
have lost one's mind, or not to have a mind at all. How true that is.".....Dan Quayle If you Google Dan Quayle, there are more quotes made by him which are very funny. Amazing how Americans form their decisions to vote for these people.
Hitchens asks "What Reason Do We Have to Trust the State
to Know Best?
What Reason Do we Have to Trust the State to Know Best?
Christopher Hitchens
Although I am named in this suit in my own behalf, I am motivated to join it by concerns well beyond my own. I have been frankly appalled by the discrepant and contradictory positions taken by the Administration in this matter. First, the entire existence of the NSA's monitoring was a secret, and its very disclosure denounced as a threat to national security.
Then it was argued that Congress had already implicitly granted the power to conduct warrantless surveillance on the territory of the United States, which seemed to make the reason for the original secrecy more rather than less mysterious. (I think we may take it for granted that our deadly enemies understand that their communications may be intercepted.)
It now appears that Congress may have granted this authority, but without quite knowing that it had, and certainly without knowing the extent of it.
This makes it critically important that we establish an understood line, and test the cases in which it may or may not be crossed.
Let me give a very direct instance of what I mean. We have recently learned that the NSA used law enforcement agencies to track members of a pacifist organisation in Baltimore. This is, first of all, an appalling abuse of state power and an unjustified invasion of privacy, uncovered by any definition of national security however expansive. It is, no less importantly, a stupid diversion of scarce resources from the real target. It is a certainty that if all the facts were known we would become aware of many more such cases of misconduct and waste.
We are, in essence, being asked to trust the state to know best. What reason do we have for such confidence? The agencies entrusted with our protection have repeatedly been shown, before and after the fall of 2001, to be conspicuous for their incompetence and venality. No serious reform of these institutions has been undertaken or even proposed: Mr George Tenet (whose underlings have generated leaks designed to sabotage the Administration's own policy of regime-change in Iraq, and whose immense and unconstitutionally secret budget could not finance the infiltration of a group which John Walker Lindh could join with ease) was awarded a Presidential Medal of Freedom.
I believe the President when he says that this will be a very long war, and insofar as a mere civilian may say so, I consider myself enlisted in it. But this consideration in itself makes it imperative that we not take panic or emergency measures in the short term, and then permit them to become institutionalised. I need hardly add that wire-tapping is only one of the many areas in which this holds true.
The better the ostensible justification for an infringement upon domestic liberty, the more suspicious one ought to be of it. We are hardly likely to be told that the government would feel less encumbered if it could dispense with the Bill of Rights. But a power or a right, once relinquished to one administration for one reason, will unfailingly be exploited by successor administrations, for quite other reasons. It is therefore of the first importance that we demarcate, clearly and immediately, the areas in which our government may or may not treat us as potential enemies.
That mob mentality............ sm
I don't think it was a single person responsible for this. Apparently, there was a whole mob of shoppers outside who broke the door off its hinges trying to get into the store and not one single person stopped to help him. There were other Walmart workers injured just trying to get to him to help him. I just can't imagine what these people were thinking....that that man's life was worth the 40 bucks they saved on an ipod or something.
More entitlement mentality
Why should we have to evacuate people who went there on their own free will? Lebanon is not Hawaii. It's one of the most unstable countries in the world. This is definitely one risk they should have planned ahead for, but no, they fully expected that when all heck broke loose that the U.S should be on their doorstep immediately to evacuate them. They are complaining that they were asked to pay $200 to be evacuated!!! They paid their way in, so why not pay their way out? When a cruise ship comes to pick them up for their 3 to 4 hour ride to Crete they can only complain that they waited to long, it was hot, there were flies, and that the menu for the 3-4 hour ride was not up to their standards. Oh, they are lounging on the deck in bathing suits, but they are suffering so baaaad, and it's their government's fault. Ingrates.
To address what you said about Bush's articulation challenge I will say this. Talk is cheap no matter how articulate or inarticulate you are. Actions speak louder than words. You can be eloquent all day long, but if you never put any action behind what you say your pretty words are best left un-uttered.
your mentality very much scares me
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Delusional mob mentality? sm
Seems the only example of that is with the liberals who cry foul when presented with the FACTS surrounding anything Obama. Do you realize how ignorant that makes you look to everyone except the other liberals? What's even more stupid is that you people ignored all the warning signs and elected him as POTUS anyway. Talk about insanity!!!!
Consider the mentality of those who put him in office
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what is the deal with the mob mentality...
is this gang up on old men day? And I say this with the utmost respect because I, for one, really like old men! Do you people have so little to say to actually bolster you stance on issues that all you can do to feel better is pick on one particular poster? Well, here you go--pick on me, too, if it will make you feel better about yourselves. I can, as I am sure TechSupport can, take it.
that mentality only works if..
we actually are all in this together. it doesn't work too well if half of us are working and half of us are not. Right now in the US it is the working people supporting the ones who don't. don't get me wrong, I am totally in favor of helping anyone who can't but not one bit if favor of supporting those who won't. Nope, I am not in it together with those who won't.
neocons mentality..*frightening*
and we will leave you with your guns, delusions that Bush is doing the country and Americans good, your war, murder mentality and guarantee..at the rate this country is going, we will still be fighting terrorists 50 years from now and it is your man Bush we all can thank.terrorism is an ideology, it can never be eliminated, however, the person we should have eliminated is still free and Bush never even mentions him any more. Give me love beads over war, war, war, war, kill, kill, kill, hate, hate, hate any day. So sick of Bush and his idiotic mentality as most of the country is. Cant wait till next election..Bush can go on down to Crawford and play with the cows in the manure where he cant hurt any one.
Sheep with flock mentality.
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Exactly, dynamic mentality, the one you need to be afraid of.nm
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This mentality got Obama into office....
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No. Your mentality got Obama into office.
People like you make me sick. You rant and rave but do nothing. All you do is create tempests in teapots and look where we are now? Superpower? Not any more. Why do you try to do something to make things better instead of complaining all the time. You remind me of my mother-in-law. Sad, very sad.
Completely juvenile. This is the mentality on here now though...
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Delusional mob mentality cannot change facts.
how ignorant you make yourself look by subscribing to this nonsense? What's even more stupid is the fact that people are so full of hate for Obama that they are actually willing to go for broke having judges tell them the same thing over and over and over and over and over again. Insane.
You gotta understand mentality of people
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Mob mentality and mass hysteria of Biblical proportions.
for a change. Tell us what we need to hear. McCain's economic plan and "shared party philosophy" is different from Bush how?
For those whose brains can only handle sound byte mentality
For the rest of us, we need a little substance and certainly cannot take wild accusations with no verifiable or credible source in sight and pointless juvenile name calling too seriously on any level whatsoever.
Can't chew gum. Would've if I could've.
Even got hypnotized. Supposedly guaranteed to quit. Lasted 5 hours. Thank heavens I never smoked anything stronger. 
I never asked you what you did. sm
I made the statement that you are a whiner. I would never tell the personal information some of you have on here, just for safety's sake if nothing else.
YOU ASKED ME !!!!..
I do not remember specificially but you asked me where were my legs and my mouth. What did I do besides coming to the C board and whining and I answered you.
The peace **movement** as you call it is different from a peaceful nonviolent approach to life. The movement is but one small fraction of trying to live a life of nonviolence. The **movement** shows its face big time when a tragedy the size of Iraq erupts but most of the time we work behind the scenes.
Again, this is our board, I'll preach to the choir as much as I want. If you don't like it, don't read it, how simple is that.
You seem to see promotion of a peaceful existence as one thing and that is resistance to war, or conflict or whatever they are calling it these days. It's all about the **them**, the politburo, the Viet Cong, the communists, the socialists, the terrorists. I don't see things that way. I see a bigger picture, bigger than this country or Iraq or Iran or China or this planet or this galaxy. I have been instructed in no uncertain terms how to behave towards my fellow man. There are no riders attached. That is the part that seems to be so hard for you to deal with. Christ instructed us to love our brothers as ourselves, to do for the least of our brethern as if we were doing for Him. He does not say, except for the drug addicts, the alcoholics, the bums, the slackers, the liars and thieves...there are no riders. That is for Him to sort out, not me.
The terrorists you refer to are everywhere. It is a mind set, not a place. They are here in our country, they are certainly in Europe, in the Philippines, in Africa, in the islands of the South Pacific, Indonesia. It makes no sense to go somewhere else and protest. We have to look at ourselves first, always. Your approach seems to be to wage war on everyone. I think that is an exercise in futility. I will stick with my approach. I will continue to pray, continue to do the things I have always done. I empathize with your position, knowing where you come from but I will never see killing as a way to accomplish anything positive. I also sincerely truly and honestly believe the terrorists hate each other more than they hate us and that we would not be in any more danger if we left Iraq than if we stay; in fact, I think just the opposite, the longer we stay, the worse things will become. It is a horrible position our troops have been put into. They were sent into an immoral, unethical, illegal snake pit by people who have never seen a day of combat in their lives, who got out because they had **other priorities.** And now they're stuck and we're stuck and whatever way we extricate ourselves it will not have a good outcome. My own personal opinion is that it is better to get out now and save what lives we can. I know you disagree, so be it.
By the way, I have one question for those of you who have served in the military or have husbands who have done so or are still doing so, doesn't the fact that people like Cheney with 5 deferments bother you/them. That no one who has sent people into war have actually been there themselves. Doesn't that bother you??
As you asked, here's a few...
These are just from the past week. There's plenty, plenty more, a veritable ton to choose from......
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Can we just admit it...you don't care what the facts are.
What a twisted value system. Twisted.
Here she is folks...the aspiring Ann Coulter of the liberal board.
Don't pretend you actually talk about issues here. You don't.
You do not believe your own platform.
Yeah....liberal compassion. I see a LOT of that on this board....
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Ahh....the writ handed down from she who decides who and who does not deserve compassion. lol.
You care nothing about the truth. I don't even know if you recognize it anymore. Pathetic.
Cannot let go of prejudice long enough to see the truth when it is in plain black and white.
Again...if this is a liberal trait then God save us from liberals...
Typical pile on attack liberal tactics. Just admit it. You know they are lying, you just don't care.
What a twisted, twisted set of values you have.
Denial, denial, denial. It is so patently obvious...you cannot get past the Bush hatred...cannot see the forest for the trees. Amazing....utterly, completely, amazing
You have so much class, reveille...really, so much class. You could not debate an issue if your life depended upon it. Let us hope that it never does.
LOL. You do love to wallow in it.... (to Piglet)
Once again, you get what you asked for
I gave it to you and you want to call it retoric. You just can't stand it because you have nothing else to go on. Your own man for president is disliked by his own VP. Strange bed fellas indeed. Gotta wonder what's going on there and just how Obama got talked into Biden for his VP.
Didn't you say show us your facts? What about it don't you like? I admit, it doesn't look good does it?
At least Palin wasn't caught putting down McCain left and right. That bothers you I know but too bad.
You can you tube it and find it yourself since even proof isn't good enough for you.
Such denial you guys are in.
I just asked him and he said
he is FOR the secret ballots because he said that companies start intimidating workers when the subject of unions come up, telling them, we will have to cut your pay, prices will go up, we will have to lay off most of our workers and finally, "we'll have to close our doors." So it cuts both ways. I'm sure he'll be more than happy to expound on his RABID pro-union stance if you're sure you're ready for that. LOL
Yes, I know Todd Palin is a card-carrying union member and good for him but that still doesn't mean I want to see his wife in the White House!!!!
He was never asked
if he spoke to dead presidents or anything about seances with Nancy Reagan.
I'm for Obama doing well but we do not need humor right now. We need some serious answers to what promises he is going to keep to us and what he is going to do to help us.
Granted, this was the first conference I think he's had (I think, not sure), but don't joke. Jokes are not what we need. He needs to take some time, get acclimated, first get sworn in, show the people he is going to do what he promised, and then there will be time for jokes. This was not appropriate.
And he needs to tell the reporters who as the absolute a$$nine questions, that he is there to answer questions about his plans, not his personal life.
You asked for it...
**Fellow Business Executives:***
**As the CFO of this business that employees 140 people, I have resigned**
**myself to the fact that Barrack Obama will be our next President, and**
**that our taxes and government fees will increase in a BIG way.**
**To compensate for these increases, I figure that the Clients will have**
**to see an increase in our fees to them of about 8% but since we cannot**
**increase our fees right now due to the dismal state of our economy, we**
**will have to lay off six of our employees instead. This has really been**
**eating at me for a while, as we believe we are family here and I didn't**
**know how to choose who will have to go.**
**So, this is what I did. I strolled thru our parking lot and found 8**
**Obama bumper stickers on our employees ' cars and have decided these**
**folks will be the first to be laid off. I can't think of a more fair way**
**to approach this problem. These folks wanted change; I gave it to them.**
**If you have a better idea, let me know.**
**Sincerely,***
*J.D.*
asked, but --
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He also said when asked..(sm)
Are you saying you think women have the right to choose abortion?
"Yeah. I mean, again, I think that’s an individual choice."
So which is it?
Of course I make fun of republicans, just like you guys make fun of dems. So what else is new? I'll tell you what. I'll name one republican who I think is reasonable, and you name one democrat who you think is reasonable. I'll go first.
How about John McCain's daughter....Meghan McCain. She is 24 years old, just out of college, and smart as a whip. She has a column on The Daily Beast. I think she leans a little more towards the center, but is definitely a fiscal conservative. Give her about 8 years and if she goes into politics she will be a force to be reckoned with. Check out these interviews.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/#29645772
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/#29645895
Who asked you?
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You asked....
here ya' go.
I was asked what I do besides whine, where..
were my legs. This is in response to something on the other board. Again, let me reiterate, I was ASKED.
I asked a question
About Casey Sheehan becuase I honestly didn't know and I have not seen that before.
As far as throwing troops to the dogs, I never said that, I said bring them home, and I am not sure how that got interpreted in to throwing them to the dogs.
But as usual, the conservative posters love to put words in our mouths.
Sigh ...
uhhh well so far I have never asked one of you if you...
pee venom? So far you have the sole capture on that lovely piece trash talk.
I do understand it, which is why I asked you
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You asked the supporters why and they
gave you what they thought, why are you "attacking" this person because you don't like their answer.
It is truly a ridiculous question. It is a flippin' pin. Does it really matter? Shouldn't we be more interested in the people who are running views and formats, be they Democrat or Republican. Why do we keep getting caught up in all of this garbage?!!
Many people were taught that the hand goes on the chest during the pledge and you sing the anthem.
No I asked if someone could tell me why he doesn't and no one knows sm
instead you want to say it is just silly. Who is attacking whom?
Asked and answered...
...ad nauseam! 
If you were homeless and asked for one...
you would have gotten it...along with a ride wherever you wanted to go after you voted. lol.
For the poster who asked for me to
was a Moslem.........
The rag was himself while on "This Week" with George Stephanapoulos. Obama was talking about his religion and said, " My Muslim faith" and then said when questioned that he "made a mistake".
Is that enough citing for you or do you not believe what he said either?
You blind O lovers need to open your eyes folks!
Blindness will get you nowhere when he has sold your country down the river to the terrorists.
I didn't ask how old it was, I asked
if any of you Republicans want to address it. Apparently not. Do you REALLY think the idea is dead? Oh yeah, now I remember, Republicans. Hallaluja and amen.
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