I'm tired of hearing about this.
Posted By: Chele on 2008-11-15
In Reply to: Prop 8 --- majority rules problem...(sm) - Just the big bad
It was brought to a vote and that is that. We come from a place where it was once taboo to be gay. You had to hide your sexual orientation. Now you can go out with your partner and live your life for all to see. I don't agree with that kind of lifestyle, but they are free to choose what kind of lifestyle they wish to live and who am I to judge. However, I feel that marriage should be defined as one man and one woman. To redefine marriage, I think, is wrong. If they want to be life partners and have a small ceremony joining them in some sort of civil union.....go ahead but marriage should be left alone as a man and a woman. I am sick and tired of redefining everything to make it politically correct so every minority group is happy. You can't make everyone happy. I personally feel that redefining marriage to include marrying anyone whether it be same or opposite sex could be confusing to children in general and I don't agree with it.
I don't have a problem with them protesting their viewpoint, but when I see them rip a cross out of an old woman's hands and stomp on the cross as she was protesting her opinion.....that is just wrong. First of all, you don't go after an old woman and secondly....she was sharing her opinion just like they were....so don't get mad at us for our opinion because we are entitled to it as well.
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I'm tired of hearing about it too.
If gays want to marry, have at it. I personally don't care what they do. We had a vote in Arkansas whether to allow unmarried couples to adopt or foster children )meaning gays although it wasn't p.c. to word it exactly that way. I voted against it as did the majority. I guess it would solve the abortion issue over time. If George marries Carl and Sue marries Edith pretty soon there wouldn't be any unwanted pregnancies, in fact, no pregnancies at all. Kids imitate what they see, if they have a mother and father BOTH of whom are male or female, what do you think they are going to end up thinking is "normal." We sure don't need to redefine marriage IMHO.
I am so sick and tired of hearing...
how republicans are at fault for everything. Yes, President Bush is republican but don't we have a democrat congress? What have then done to help better things?
I'm neither republican or democrat. I always try to pick the person I feel is best for the job. However, I learned a long time ago that a politician will say almost anything to get elected. Yes, Obama has many plans, but realistically how many of these plans will actually work, be put into works if he is elected, or just a bunch of smoke he is blowing up our rear ends to get elected.
I was watching a show on TV the other night that showed politicians during an election year and one of the things consistently brought up by many was the need to decrease our dependency on oil. This went all the way back to even before Carter was president. After these politicians were elected, not one of them did anything about decreasing our dependency on oil. Politicians will bring up any subject worth bringing up during an election year to get the backing of people, but once they win.....they don't have to do half of what they promised to do.
Anyone else tired of hearing about Miss USA?
It is just a beauty pageant. LOL! Sheesh. Miss California was asked, I believe, a loaded question but that is to be expected from the likes of Perez Hilton. I do not believe that her answer cost her the crown though. However, the attacks on her for stating her opinion are just ridiculous. Every one is entitled to their opinion and whether or not you agree with them........IT IS JUST A BEAUTY PAGEANT. LOL...Sheesh. I'm so tired of hearing about this.
Miss California is beautiful and seems nice but she didn't lose because of her answer. However, the personal attacks on her are just uncalled for as well. I think both sides are taking this too far.
I'm getting tired of hearing the word "maverick"
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I just get tired of hearing "It's my body, I can
do what I want to with it." I had a second child totally unplanned for and totally not expected (my first only being 7 months old when I got pregnant), but the thought of abortion never crossed my mind. That baby was a human being, not just a fetus to me. That child is now 26 years old and expecting her first child. She has brought so much joy into my life that I can't even bear to think what it would be without her. Had I chosen to abort her, I would have missed one of the greatest blessings I had ever been given. It wasn't just my body that was involved. The only choice I made was taking the risk for an unwanted pregnancy. If I didn't want to be pregnant, I probably should have been more careful. Now, I'm so happy that I wasn't very careful. She is a beautiful young woman that I treasure dearly. 
We get angry and defensive because we are tired of hearing..sm
the same-old same-old and the suspicions and negative remarks over and over again.
hearing a lot
Reporters do hear a lot. What they don't do is think a lot. A corporation, lobbyist or politican speaks, and they faithfully write it down without ever questioning the truth or intent of the information they've been given (scrunching up your brow to look like you're "asking the tough questions" doesn't count). They're the best transcriptionists in the business!
One of the reasons you are not hearing as much sm
about the Republicans, especially the current administration, is that they have been very effective at almost completely shutting up any voices of dissent. When Clinton was in office we heard about him nonstop.
I'm hearing that a lot today
I've been all over the internet today and everywhere I go I'm seeing woman who feel like McCain is being condescending to women by throwing out this nobody who is ruby red as they come and expecting to get women voters just because of it, especially Hillary followers. These women are insulted and now finally have both feet firmly on the Obama train.
I read this too after hearing that he had...sm
orchestrated the negative ads this last week, now he is saying he disapproves? Maybe this is a tactic to deflect our attention? Very suspicous. Since when does he have a consious?
Well, instead of hearing why don't you read
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sick of hearing he was
only 8 years old when Ayers was making bombs. I was about 8 when Charles Manson and his goons killed Sharon Tate and others. I don't feel like sending old Charley a birthday card let alone sitting in his living room or jailcell in his case.As far as I am concerned Ayers should be in jail too!
Actually, what I remember hearing about was ....sm
that it would be like our own personal savings account. I would much rather have that, than have the govt have their hands in my SS pocket, using my SS as they have been doing, and putting the IOU away in a drawer somewhere.
Not sure what his current plan is or if it has changed, but if I get to control my own SS money, I'm all for it.
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/04/17/mccain-social-security/
There is no hearing today.
Your statement here is patently inaccurate. The SC is not taking the case. For the sake of not wasting too much time on this fairy tale, I am posting this article link that can explain that better than I can.
http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2008/12/05/supreme-court-not-considering-obamas-birth-certificate-case/
You will notice that the article clearly states that the merits of the claims will not be heard (essentially because there are no merits).
For an excellent explanation on the Supreme courts porn king/sexually harassing above-the-law judge's motivations for his "lone wolf" move to attempt to shove this nonsense down the throats of his fellow jurists, read this:
http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/83953
Here is an excellent article that discussed the underlying pathology of conspiracy theorists:
http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2008/12/05/birth_certificate/
You are mistaken about the timing of this "knowledge." Unfortunately, the citizens of this country learned of this lunacy long before the Nausea or vomiting 4 election. In fact, Berg's lawsuit emerged the minute it became apparent that Hillary was not going to win in the primaries (08/22/2008). Andy Martin's failed action occurred 10/17/2008. Steven Marquis' impotent attempt occurred on 10/18/2008. David Neal's action fell flat on its face 10/24/2008. Your delusional statement about "many people" is a fabrication that I notice you have not backed up with any sort of credible source.
There is no truth to fight for, fool. The conspiracy theorists who are the driving force behind this abomination are scam bags who are picking your pockets to keep this stupidity alive....and you are marching lock-step alongside one another and coughing up.
The rest of the stuff you have included in your post is nothing more that regurgitation of garbage that has been answered at least a thousand times already. My advice to you is not to hold your breath waiting for the SC justices to show the same sort of self-serving interest in usurping clean and legitimate election results as Clarence the porn king Thomas has in these actions. Out of 842 cases in the last 8 years, they have dismissed 782 of them and heard only 60....and not all of those heard succeeded.
If that was true then there would be no hearing
"The Supreme Court does not want to touch this with a 10 foot pole"??????
Hellooooooo, are you keeping up on current events. They are taking this case on. They are listening to the people who have the lawsuits in action. They are demanding that Barry show his original vault BC (which he has sealed so nobody can see it) and he is defying the Supreme Court.
The citizens of this country did not find out about all this stuff until the election was over, and a lot are saying if we knew this back then, we would not have voted for the guy.
It's time to wake up, just because you don't want anything to happen and want your god in there there are others who don't. Others who are fighting to find out the truth.
All they keep saying is "If you are legal and were born in Hawaii SHOW US YOUR CERTIFICATE". He has not done so and he had it (along with school records and other stuff) legally sealed. That speaks volumes in telling the public there is something seriously wrong here.
I myself will wait for the decision of the Supreme Court. BTW, just in case you haven't heard the news, they are meeting about it and listening to the cases. And if a certain number of the justices believe there is validity to it then the electorates will not be allowed to vote until the issue is resolved.
I have been hearing that O plan
of sharing the wealth will put us in the GREAT DEPRESSION just like back when Hoover was in office, exept this time, it will be worse because many more people make more than 100,000 a year than they did years ago. So basically it will be spreading the wellfare around.
I"m hearing it and why shouldn't they
get money for a bailout? Wall Street and the banks did, but WS and the banks are HOLDING ONTO the money for BONUSES, not to bail themselves out. GM and Chryler need it to KEEP JOBS.
The bailout was wrong in the first place because everyone would want money, but that's the only thing they could come up with at the time. What's done is done but I don't think we ought to keep throwing money out there. NP and Barney Fife are too free with money that's not theirs and they should be thrown out of office.
Where are you hearing this mess? It's
absolutely not true. What, 1 or 2 whackjob republican electorates are nervous about it? LOL.
The BC is a NON-ISSUE, he won by a large margin, and he will be inaugurated. This has all gotten so SILLY.
They obviously are hearing voices.....
their take on the President's speech last night had some pretty funky twists......
Personally....I'm tried of hearing it from
both sides. I'm tired of the name calling from both sides. This debate is getting nowhere and yet some of you people just cannot let it go and just agree to disagree. There will never be a middle ground found on this discussion. So let's just drop it and stop all the vicious attacks.
First I'm hearing of a divorce. What's your source? And, sm
if her protesting is ending her marriage, there wasn't much there to begin with.
Bush's hearing problem.sm
THE DIAGNOSIS
Maybe it’s the newly appointed speech writer. Maybe Peter Feaver has been locked away in some windowless sub basement of the White House, without access to the outer world. Maybe he can do little more than recycle earlier speeches about the war in Iraq. Maybe he and everyone else in this administration have become trapped in a bizarre and crippling time warp. Or maybe, just maybe, it’s that George Bush is hard of hearing.
That has to be the explanation. After listening to his delirious portrayal of progress today and of victory tomorrow in war-torn Iraq, there is only one conclusion: the President of the Untied States is nothing more than a deaf man, talking.
It’s not as if anyone in this administration has ever listened with a discerning ear. Standard operating practice at the White House has been to listen only to those who furthered their agenda, and to absolutely no one else.
But this time, the man at the helm of a sinking nation has gone a bit too far. This time he has gone stone, cold, deaf.
George W. Bush and his handlers have a lengthy history of hearing problems. For more than five years, they selectively closed their ears to those who knew things they chose to ignore. For more than five years, they dismissed the advice of the experienced, and the knowledgeable. They heard nothing that was critical or challenging. They heard nothing that questioned their ill fated policies or their inaccurate conclusions. They heard nothing but their own applause.
George Bush developed a severe hearing malady early in his presidency. From day one, he turned a deaf ear to warnings that his policies were dangerous and destructive. Fortunately for the administration, the corporate media under-reported or simply ignored the advice of experts with as much disdain as the White House.
Just think about how the President absolutely and intractably refused to listen when:
Scientists warned about teaching Intelligent Design
Educators warned about serious flaws in No Child Left Behind
Environmentalists warned about pollution and global warming
Health experts warned about the dangers mercury levels
Economists warned about an inquitable tax policy
Researchers warned about cutting stem cell projects
Ecologists warned about deforestation
Engineers warned about New Orleans levees
Civil libertarians warned about the Patriot Act
AIDS organizations warned about ignoring condom education
And yet, George Bush chose to hear the words of the most extreme voices on the religious right and the most self indulgent arguments of corporate America. His selective hearing set the standard for every one of his regressive and injurious domestic policies.
No matter. George Bush was president and he knew better even without his hearing. He had the answers before the questions were ever raised. He was right. Everyone else was wrong. He had no reason to listen.
It was an outrage for the President and his henchmen to totally ignore the advice and expertise of anyone who disagreed with their self-serving agenda. It was, in effect, an irresponsible surrender to special interests and supporters who would help keep George Bush in power. But, perhaps, it was politics as usual.
Perhaps it was. Domestic policies often deteriorate into partisan food fights, regardless of the toll on the people at large.
But in the wake of 9/11, George Bush’s hearing took a far more serious turn for the worse. His festering malady became a chronic affliction. In time, his condition became more and more noticeable and more and more debilitating.
Looking back, we now can see that 9/11 was the prelude to a long planned war against Iraq, When it came to the attacks or to the march to his war, George Bush found himself unable to hear a great many voices. Once again, the media were cooperative and complicit by selectively underreporting the warnings as well.
Consequently, among the voices that went unheeded by the President were:
Intelligence sources who warned about impending attacks on US soil, using hijacked airliners
CIA insiders who warned of the increased ‘chatter’ in the summer of 2001 that signaled that something was brewing among Al Qaeda operatives
Families of 9/11 victims who demanded an independent investigation into the attacks
Intelligence reports discounting any connection between Saddam Hussein and Al Qaeda
Weapons Inspectors in Iraq who insisted there were no WMD’s, but begged for more time to complete their mission
Experts who knew the Middle East and warned that a war against Iraq would foment civil war and instability in the entire region
The major nations of the world, with the exception of the UK and the bribed coalition of the billing, who warned about the consequences of an illegal preemptive or preventive war against a non belligerent nation.
Millions of people around the world who marched in protest to the impending invasion
A bipartisan group of US Military and Diplomatic experts who warned about the recklessness of a war against the people of Iraq
The Army War College experts who warned that GW Bus was “…on a course of open-ended and gratuitous conflict with states and non-state entities that pose no serious threat to the United States.
Experienced military men such as Generals Shinzeki and Zinni, who openly criticized the poorly laid plans for invasion and the horrific management of the occupation.
Any an all voices in opposition to the Bush/PNAC dream of global domination.
Instead, George Bush listened intently to the words of his PNAC partners who had waited so patiently for the chance to invade Iraq. And yet, he listened to Ahmed Chalabi, a felon convicted of embezzling millions in absentia, who said that an invasion of Iraq would be a cake walk. Instead, he listened to people who had no clue as to the realities of war, or the cultural and tribal entanglements of the Iraqi people.
Instead, he went to war. And the war became a quagmire. And the quagmire became a nightmare. And the nightmare began to show in the polls.
And so, something had to be done. That something was another series of speeches by the President to shore up support for his war. That is why George Bush came before the American people once again to introduce a redundant and meaningless National Strategy for Victory in Iraq.
When George Bush gave the first of his scheduled speeches, his otic infirmity could no longer be hidden. Sadly, his second address to the nation simply reinforced the obvious: the President of the United States is completely and totally deaf.
No matter how he tried, there was no way to conceal it. In his effort to regain public support for his invasion and occupation of Iraq, George Bush made it perfectly clear that he was incapable of hearing anything even remotely related to reality. In order to distort his failed war policy, he turned a deaf ear to the devastation and chaos that define his war of choice. He closed off any and all warnings that a military victory in Iraq is not possible.
But, in a really bad move, he also turned a deaf ear to the American people.
The American people are asking questions, and George Bush refuses to hear them. Instead, he offers public relations sound bites to a nation that is beginning to demand the truth.
So far he has refused to give the nation any explanations about what is really happening in Iraq. So far, George Bush has refused to address:
the failure to plan for our role as occupiers in Iraq
the chaos and bloodshed that intensify every day
the lack of water and electricity for the people
the failure of any significant reconstruction
the daily kidnappings and rampant crime
the mass exodus of doctors and other professionals
the use of torture by both Americans and the new Iraqi regime.
the widespread corruption and missing billions
the terrible effects of depleted uranium
the illegal and devastating use of white phosphorus
the fundamentalist government that is now in charge
the lack of body and vehicle armor for our troops
the tens of thousands of Iraqis who died at his hand
the claim by his own man, Ayad Allawi, that things are worse in Iraq now than under Saddam.
the five billion dollars a month being spent on the war
And George Bush refused, above all, to present a cohesive and specific strategy for ending the terrible war he began.
People all across this nation wanted to know what went wrong and why. And they wanted to know how their President planned to fix it. But George Bush has closed his ears to the growing concerns of a majority of Americans. He simply refuses to hear them.
He has chosen, instead, to revert to type. He has chosen, instead, to remain deaf to facts that had been revealed about his war. He has chosen, instead, to ignore the truth about the tragic and deadly catastrophe that was the war in Iraq. He has chosen, once again, to lie.
George Bush speaks only before courteous audiences. Assured of applause at appropriate intervals, he can comfortably hold both hands over his ears and refuse to acknowledge that he had led the nation into an endless morass.
He cannot tell the truth, we know that. So he did what he does best. He lied. But, the irony of it all is that more and more Americans are on to the lies by now. Just for starters, they know that:
There is no connection whatever between the invasion of Iraq and his trumped up war on terror. And yet, George Bush opted to use the word “terror” FIFTY TIMES his first strategy speech, and continued to the same harangue in the second.
The insurgency in Iraq is composed of dozens, possibly as many as 100 cells working independently. And yet, George Bush identified only three sources of insurgent activity – and placed much of the blame on “the brutal terrorist, Zarqawi – al Qaeda’s leading operative in Iraq.”
American marines, not Iraqi security forces, led the incursion into Tal Afar. And yet, to make them appear battle-ready, George Bush gave full credit to the Iraqi security forces for leading the attack.
Former supporters of the war, such as Vietnam veteran John Murtha, are convinced that a military victory in Iraq is not possible. And yet, George Bush repeated his old, weathered war cry, “There will be no withdrawal without victory.”
General William Odom has called the war in Iraq a failure. And yet, George Bush touts the “amazing progress” of the occupation.
More than 2130 Americans and 200 coalition troops have died for his illegal and immoral war of choice, and tens of thousands of innocent Iraqis are dead as well. And yet, George Bush still insists that he has “taken the fight to the terrorists,” and that his bloody war will “lay the foundation of peace for generations to come.”
Progress in Iraq cannot be measured by the number of buildings being rebuilt after being destroyed by US bombs. Instead, that is exactly what George Bush insists is so.
Progress in Iraq cannot be measured by the number of cell phones being used. And yet, that is how George Bush measures it.
Oil revenues are not going to the Iraqi people, but to foreign oil companies. And yet, George Bush claims that increased oil production was a sign of progress.
There is no definable victory possible. And yet, George Bush insists there is.
But George Bush has no clue about what the public knows. The man is as deaf as a door post. But his impairment is one of choice, not affliction. He believes he can use his hearing loss as a cover for his ineptitude and his obstinacy. In his world apart from reality, George Bush continues to believe that he can fool all of the people all of the time.
But this time, the American people are not buying it.
THE REMEDY
We are approaching day 1,000 of this outrageous war, and the mood of the nation is changing. The winds of opposition are gaining strength across the vast expanse that is America. George Bush and his PNAC handlers are pretending not to hear the calls for an end to this terrible war. But they hear it. They really do.
The turning point, of course, was triggered by Congressman John Murtha, whose opinions can no longer be countered by the usual rhetoric from the White House. Murtha spoke with the tacit encouragement of his close friends in the Pentagon who cannot speak out personally, but who fully understand the hopelessness of ‘staying the course,’ His message clearly signaled the beginning of the end.
But it won’t be easy. There will be distractions in the form of token withdrawals, and the war will go on. More people will die. The mayhem will continue. But the voices of protest will get louder and louder.
And George Bush will continue to make speeches. He will recite the words of his new speech writer with gusto and sincerity. He will continue to sell his war as if it were a product on the open market. And he will remain deaf to those who oppose and those who criticize and those who demand that the war must end.
He can do this because the voices of protest are still muted. They will only be heard if they become loud enough to penetrate the ears of the deaf man who is in charge. George Bush is the Commander in Chief. He calls the shots. He sits in the safety of the Oval Office and sends people to their death.
The tragedy is that right this minute, as he still dreams of a glorious victory in Iraq, he doesn’t hear a thing.
Maybe one day soon, before thousands more die, if their outcry is loud enough, George Bush will hear the voices of the people he once swore to serve; then again, maybe not.
Me too...I thought I had lost my hearing or..
my mind, but a while back I started to find myself agreeing with Buchanan as well. I have put a link at the top of the page that I think is explanatory of this aberration of all kinds of un-like-minded people suddenly (not really, probably more slowly over time) becoming like minded. I even agreed with Newt Gingrich the other day on a couple of points and what was even more weird, he and Biden were on Meet The Press and saying pretty much the same thing. Myabe there is a silver lining in this fiasco after all; maybe this administration will alienate so many people that we find ourselves banding TOGETHER (what a concept!!!) to try to take our country back and bring it back to the status of a knowledgeable and compassionate super power who truly have the well being of all its citizens as its first priority and who respect and appreciate our friends and allies abroad. Anyway...check it out.
I am hearing on the radio that it was her husband, not she...
who was the member and it was several years ago. The jury is out on that one.
Obama went to the dailykos convention and spoke to them. Does that mean he approves of the smarm on that website?
Wright said God dam* America. Obama was in his pews for 20 years. Are we to attribute that comment to Obama?
You can't have it both ways.
JM may be planning but we're not hearing about it
Every day in the news is talk of Obama's $2M party.
I am sooo sick of hearing...
that Obama will do things "because he's black." What kind of reasoning is this? Did we forget that he's just as much white as he is black? What makes him more black than he is white? Did anyone notice that he was raised in a white environment, with little contact with his father? Is he not a product of his environment? Calling this man black OR white discredits his heritage and does nothing but show the racism that is so obviously alive and well in the US!
Tax break? I have been hearing we will all be taxed.
I have been hearing on the news, what about the middle class? Well, we will be taxed.
I remember hearing about him- some kind of nut, eh? nm
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I too am sick of hearing all this - see message
Okay, I'll be the first to admit. This is important (I don't consider it historic - it is just basically important. Well now that I think of it I don't think it's important, it is just that its the first time a black man has been given (no not voted in...given) the job). Okay, so...this is notable that we have a soon to be (tomorrow) black president. Should there be a celebration. Yes. Should there be a celebration each time a new president is elected. Yes. Should Obama be treated differently than a white man who would take office. No he should not. That's where it should stop. The disgust that I feel when our country is in a recession (soon to be depression) and he's spending what? 170 million on his coronation. This is outrageous and a disgusting display of self-indulgence.
On Thursday I started seeing stations reporting on the coronation. Then Friday more and more stations. Even HBO has the corononation of Obama.
So here you have it. A country full of people who have lost their jobs, are in the process of losing their jobs, states (California in particular) that can't afford to pay the citizens their tax refunds and are sending them I.O.U.'s, people losing houses, people who can't even afford to buy food or medicine they need and here comes along our newly appointed president who is supposed to be for the people and he's spending over $170 million on himself. If he cared about the country at all he would say, hey, let's keep it to $100 million and take the other $70 million and put it back into the economy. At least it would feed a lot of people in the soup kitchens, help people stay in their houses a little bit longer, etc, etc, etc. (Can't he have a decent coronation on $100 million?) No instead he's sitting back revelling in the fact that everyone is making a big deal about his race.
Excuse me, but when he was campaigning against Hillary and John he kept saying, it's not about race, it's not about race. It's about you. He kept trying to take the focus off his race and put the focus on us. Now he's elected and all I hear is race, race, race, and it's all about me. Me, me, me. I'm the first black man, this is historic, my black ancestors, black, black, black, me, me, me. Every single speech he has given he's talked about his race.
Can you tell I am just sick, sick, sick of it.
This is supposed to be an inaugeration (not a coronation), and this "inaugeration" should be the same as any other newly incoming president. Would we have seen this if Hillary was elected. No. Well we would have to some extend but not like this. Would we have seen it if McCain/Palin (the first woman ever to become VP) - Do you even have to ask. That would be a big NO! Heck they'd probably even make her pay for everything herself.
I didn't vote for either. I voted for Chuck Baldwin (Constitution party). So I was not happy with either choice and it's not like I wanted one over the other. I knew Chuck Baldwin had no chance whatsoever of winning, but I didn't want either so it was a vote against both of them.
However, back to the original point. I am so sick of the constant coverage invading the TV set that the TV is not even going on. I've got lots of books I want to catch up on and I've got a good library of DVDs to watch.
So, we're in a recession/depression. People losing jobs, home, can't eat and here we have Mr. Obama spending $170 million. The most expensive inaugeration in history. Which means we will now have increased our deficit by at least $170 million. That's right who's going to pay for this. Who else - the taxpayers. Way to go Mr. Obama, haven't stepped foot in and you've already increased our deficit. But I know, I know....it's Bush's fault.
This is my first time hearing protestors against the Iraqi war...sm
getting soldiers killed??
This is not Vietnam. We are not trying to stop communism from spreading (not that I would have agreed with that then). This is supposedly to stop WMD, then to spread democracy to the Iraqi people, and now because there was a connection to al Queda.
The loss of live was tremendous in Vietnam compared to the Iraqi war. If we had lost the number of troops we did in Vietnam, I would be in Washington sitting on the lawn myself.
Not sure this answered your question, you have to explain your question further??
I've been hearing from people she debated against that
She's a real tiger and I'm watching it and hoping that is true. We shall see.
by the way, backwards typist - I like hearing your viewpoint -
I am not bashing anybody - I respond sometimes to comments with my own opinions, but I respect that you have the right to yours also.
I never call anyone a liar on this board - but if I see something I think is incorrect, I will try to correct the information if I can...
Also, I agree with the issues needing to be discussed and not bashing - for example, I asked who would vote for SP in 2012 and it turned into "she's better than him" or "he did this" below. I truly wanted to know who would vote for her in the primaries.
But, I don't think it is just the dems tearing down the pubs - I am standing on the fence (neutral to party sides) and I see it going both ways...
I'm sick to death of hearing the unfairness
When the majority of crimes committed in our community are by the black population, what should we do? Say, oh my goodness, you're black....we'll just pretend you didn't just kill someone on the corner in a driveby shooting or enter your elderly neighbor's house and shoot them dead cause you want what ain't yours....or a real good one....hide in the bushes of my neighbor's house, he drives up from work, and has a gun put to his temple and forced back into his car to the nearest ATM, where he was so fortunate to escape and run into a nearby store. To which, our black police chief hid the information and the local TV/paper didn't even know this happened until another neighbor call the TV/newspaper and gave them the details.
Or the AT&T cell phone center that just opened only to have OVER $20000 worth of phone stolen by several black men, who were seen running from the store by other blacks who reported them to the police. No, I'll just put my head in the sand and pretend I don't know the facts simply because we now have a black president. BTW, when many blacks attending COLLEGE were asked who they think would have the greatest influence on the young blacks would be, Obama or a black rapper, guess what their answer was? Clue: It WASN'T Obama. Yea, Obama will just turn those folks right around and show the bad ones the correct way to live. IN YOUR DREAMS!
Yeah, and you cant handle hearing the truth.
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I am hearing the exact opposite about unemployment
I think what you have posted is absolute rubbish, scare tactics once again. I am hearing not just on the local news but national news about the work situation picking up. I think most repubs are literally cringing inside seeing just what a good job Obama is doing. I just heard from my husband yesterday his job has posting on the board his company is buying 2 additional companies which means more employees, heard about a company in the state building new plant that will hire about 600 people. Like I said, rubbish.
Are you illiterate, dyslexic, have ADHD or hard of hearing?
The question is about republicans and taking personal responsibility. The issue at hand in this thread is the Troopergate investigation and the McCain campaign's attempt to slay the messenger, claim bias and shift responsibility to Obama's camp. No where in there did anybody say anything about Barack Obama, his associations, terrorists or anything remotely related to republican hate mantra.
Sarah Palin was up to her eyeballs in this investigation for ethics violatins before McCain's VP pick announcement. The investigation was conducted in accordance with Alaska State Legislature protocol. They were holding hearings, presenting evidence, hearing arguments pro and con, questioning, examining and drawing conclusions aimed at an official response. This is how the State of Alaska conduct legitimate inquiries into allegations of misconduct. There was nothing covert about it. It was all above board. These are the facts, not the spin.
What they discovered led them to the conclusions found in that report. The report findings raise all kinds of other legitimate issues with regard to Paiin and her own past record of conducting ethics investigations aimed at her personal political detractors against whom she sought to exact revenge and her hypocritical position as McC campaign attack-dog-in-chief assigned to head up the Obama smear fest / hate machine.
There is more on this subject which I will post directly below about pubs who abuse power. I am wondering if you can help me understand the McC campaign statement that came out last night that tried unsuccessfully to accuse the Obama campaign for Palin's Troopergate woes.
If you are able, please stay on task and answer my question directly. Sarah Palin has been found to be in violation of Alaska State Ethics law all by her own ill-advised actions and exercising her very own poor judgment. How pray tell is Obama responsible for Palin's screw up? Keep in that we are not attacking Obama here. We are having straightforward dialog about Sarah Palin and the McC campaign's attempt deny her culpability in official finding of ethic violations. Please confine your response to the subject at hand.
I've been hearing this one lyric for a couple weeks now....sm
It's the end of the world as we know it
It's a real, real bad scratch/skip in the record (if anyone still remembers those), and I hope someone fixes it soon....still hiding for the next four years if need be......
But you are on the politic board - enjoy your hearing your opinion
I'd like to know how you feel about the stimulus package (p.s. - you are on the political board HA HA)
As for Bush/Gore. The country always has been run by whoever wins the delegates is elected. Back then Gore may have had the popular vote (why I have no idea), but Bush had the electoral votes. I don't get it. Every single election if the crats are ahead in electoral votes they boast about following the laws, but if they are not ahead in electoral votes and are ahead in popular vote they try to change the rules and make it law that whoever has popular vote wins and not electoral. It's happened every single election.
But would like to hear your opinion on the stimulus plan.
Mandatory evac all along Texas coast. I'm hearing lots.
I live in the path of Ike. Mandatory evac supposedly is starting around 10 a.m. I am trying to figure out whether I am staying home or hitting road. Whenever they come up for breath in the middle of lipstick on pigs and McCains preverted add long enough to actually name the mandatory evacation towns/cities, I'd appreciate a heads up.
The myth of the Clinton surplus...I'm a libertarian but I am sick of hearing this..SM
http://www.letxa.com/articles/16
Doesn't this belong on the racism board? Sick of hearing it. nm
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Sorry, but we're sick of hearing about your Sarah phobia and hatred. nm
And we're sick of hearing about your Barack phobia and hatred
You betcha! 
You mean we wont be hearing, "war is hard work...we're making progress," etc? sm
Out with the old BS and in with the new. This should be interesting.
"He (Obama) chairs the subcommittee on Europe. ... He's held not one substantive hearing to do
Fischer, who is a minority staff member of the Foreign Relations Committee, said something as major as NATO’s role in Afghanistan would typically be held before the full Foreign Relations Committee, rather than Obama’s European subcommittee.
In fact, the Foreign Relations Committee held a hearing on Afghanistan on Jan. 31, 2008, and NATO was a part of the discussion. Obama attended a Democratic debate in California that day. Clinton is not on the committee.
The Clinton campaign put out a statement reiterating Clinton’s comments to reinforce the theme that Obama is more about talk than action.
“Given the opportunity to take the reins of leadership and shape two critical areas of U.S. foreign policy — Afghanistan and our alliances in Europe — Senator Obama has done next to nothing,” the statement said.
Obama’s campaign did not respond to a request for comment.
So let’s look at Clinton’s statement:
“He chairs the subcommittee on Europe.” Yep.
“It has jurisdiction over NATO.” Yep.
“NATO is critical to our mission in Afghanistan. He’s held not one substantive hearing to do oversight, to figure out what we can do to actually have a stronger presence with NATO in Afghanistan.” Yep.
Some may argue that the issue of NATO’s role in Afghanistan typically and more appropriately would come before the full Foreign Relations Committee. But Clinton is right when she says Obama’s subcommittee has been largely dormant while Obama has campaigned for president. We rate her comment True.
Foreign policy advisors
Barack Obama is currently advised on foreign policy by a support group of approximately 300 people organized into 20 teams based upon subject.[89] A core group of advisors, led by Susan E. Rice and Anthony Lake, filters hundreds of papers and messages daily to provide the Senator with more concise positions on foreign policy and more specific reactions to international developments. Obama's foreign policy advisers have included Richard Danzig, Mark Lippert, Gregory Craig, Dennis McDonough, Daniel Shapiro, Scott Gration, Sarah Sewall, Ivo Daalder, Jeffrey Bader, Mark Brzezinski, Zbigniew Brzezinski, Richard Clarke, Roger Cressey, Philip Gordon, Lawrence Korb, James Ludes, Robert Malley, Bruce Riedel, Dennis Ross, Mona Sutphen, and Samantha Power (resigned March 7, 2008).[90][91][92]
If he is such an expert why does he need 300 advisors?
As we are tired of YOU!
Why can't you comply with the moderator's request not to bash posts here? If we are so offensive do you, why do you come here other than to stir up trouble?
Tired MT=SAM
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I have been dog-tired and still know how
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Exactly....... I am so tired of it.
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Maybe she got tired of trying to have
After reading posts like Palin says kill all polar bears and McCain diverted money from campaign funds to support the KKK it makes you wonder if there is any intelligent discussion left here.
I miss Sam too.
I'm Tired...
I’m Tired
Robert A. Hall
I’ll be 63 soon. Except for one semester in college when jobs were scarce, and a six-month period when I was between jobs, but job-hunting every day, I’ve worked, hard, since I was 18. Despite some health challenges, I still put in 50-hour weeks, and haven’t called in sick in seven or eight years.. I make a good salary, but I didn’t inherit my job or my income, and I worked to get where I am. Given the economy, there’s no retirement in sight, and I’m tired. Very tired.
I’m tired of being told that I have to “spread the wealth around” to people who don’t have my work ethic. I’m tired of being told the government will take the money I earned, by force if necessary, and give it to people too lazy or stupid to earn it.
I’m tired of being told that I have to pay more taxes to “keep people in their homes.” Sure, if they lost their jobs or got sick, I’m willing to help. But if they bought McMansions at three times the price of our paid-off, $250,000 condo, on one-third of my salary, then let the leftwing Congresscritters who passed Fannie and Freddie and the Community Reinvestment Act that created the bubble help them—with their own money.
I’m tired of being told how bad America is by leftwing millionaires like Michael Moore, George Soros and Hollywood entertainers who live in luxury because of the opportunities America offers. In thirty years, if they get their way, the United States will have the religious freedom and women’s rights of Saudi Arabia, the economy of Zimbabwe, the freedom of the press of China, the crime and violence of Mexico, the tolerance for Gay people of Iran, and the freedom of speech of Venezuela. Won’t multiculturalism be beautiful?
I’m tired of being told that Islam is a “Religion of Peace,” when every day I can read dozens of stories of Muslim men killing their sisters, wives and daughters for their family “honor;” of Muslims rioting over some slight offense; of Muslims murdering Christian and Jews because they aren’t “believers;” of Muslims burning schools for girls; of Muslims stoning teenage rape victims to death for “adultery;” of Muslims mutilating the genitals of little girls; all in the name of Allah, because the Qur’an and Shari’a law tells them to.
I believe “a man should be judged by the content of his character, not by the color of his skin.” I’m tired of being told that “race doesn’t matter” in the post-racial world of President Obama, when it’s all that matters in affirmative action jobs, lower college admission and graduation standards for minorities (harming them the most), government contract set-asides, tolerance for the ghetto culture of violence and fatherless children that hurts minorities more than anyone, and in the appointment of US Senators from Illinois. I think it’s very cool that we have a black president and that a black child is doing her homework at the desk where Lincoln wrote the emancipation proclamation. I just wish the black president was Condi Rice, or someone who believes more in freedom and the individual and less in an all-knowing government.
I’m tired of a news media that thinks Bush’s fundraising and inaugural expenses were obscene, but that think Obama’s, at triple the cost, were wonderful. That thinks Bush exercising daily was a waste of presidential time, but Obama exercising is a great example for the public to control weight and stress, that picked over every line of Bush’s military records, but never demanded that Kerry release his, that slammed Palin with two years as governor for being too inexperienced for VP, but touted Obama with three years as senator as potentially the best president ever.
Wonder why people are dropping their subscriptions or switching to Fox News? Get a clue. I didn’t vote for Bush in 2000, but the media and Kerry drove me to his camp in 2004.
I’m tired of being told that out of “tolerance for other cultures” we must let Saudi Arabia use our oil money to fund mosques and madrassa Islamic schools to preach hate in America, while no American group is allowed to fund a church, synagogue or religious school in Saudi Arabia to teach love and tolerance.
I’m tired of being told I must lower my living standard to fight global warming, which no one is allowed to debate. My wife and I live in a two-bedroom apartment and carpool together five miles to our jobs. We also own a three-bedroom condo where our daughter and granddaughter live. Our carbon footprint is about 5% of AL Gore’s, and if you’re greener than Gore, you’re green enough.
I’m tired of being told that drug addicts have a disease, and I must help support and treat them, and pay for the damage they do. Did a giant germ rush out of a dark alley, grab them, and stuff white powder up their noses while they tried to fight it off? I don’t think Gay people choose to be Gay, but I dam sure think druggies chose to take drugs. And I’m tired of harassment from cool people treating me like a freak when I tell them I never tried marijuana.
I’m tired of illegal aliens being called “undocumented workers,” especially the ones who aren’t working, but are living on welfare or crime.. What’s next? Calling drug dealers, “Undocumented Pharmacists”? And, no, I’m not against Hispanics. Most of them are Catholic and it’s been a few hundred years since Catholics wanted to kill me for my religion. I’m willing to fast track for citizenship any Hispanic person who can speak English, doesn’t have a criminal record and who is self-supporting without family on welfare, or who serves honorably for three years in our military. Those are the citizens we need..
I’m tired of latte liberals and journalists, who would never wear the uniform of the Republic themselves, or let their entitlement-handicapped kids near a recruiting station, trashing our military. They and their kids can sit at home, never having to make split-second decisions under life and death circumstances, and bad mouth better people then themselves. Do bad things happen in war? You bet. Do our troops sometimes misbehave? Sure. Does this compare with the atrocities that were the policy of our enemies for the last fifty years—and still are? Not even close. So here’s the deal. I’ll let myself be subjected to all the humiliation and abuse that was heaped on terrorists at Abu Ghraib or Gitmo, and the critics can let themselves be subject to captivity by the Muslims who tortured and beheaded Daniel Pearl in Pakistan, or the Muslims who tortured and murdered Marine Lt.. Col. William Higgins in Lebanon, or the Muslims who ran the blood-spattered Al Qaeda torture rooms our troops found in Iraq, or the Muslims who cut off the heads of schoolgirls in Indonesia, because the girls were Christian.. Then we’ll compare notes. British and American soldiers are the only troops in history that civilians came to for help and handouts, instead of hiding from in fear.
I’m tired of people telling me that their party has a corner on virtue and the other party has a corner on corruption. Read the papers—bums are bi-partisan. And I’m tired of people telling me we need bi-partisanship.. I live in Illinois, where the “Illinois Combine” of Democrats and Republicans has worked together harmoniously to loot the public for years. And I notice that the tax cheats in Obama’s cabinet are bi-partisan as well.
I’m tired of hearing wealthy athletes, entertainers and politicians of both parties talking about innocent mistakes, stupid mistakes or youthful mistakes, when we all know they think their only mistake was getting caught. I’m tired of people with a sense of entitlement, rich or poor.
Speaking of poor, I’m tired of hearing people with air-conditioned homes, color TVs and two cars called poor. The majority of Americans didn’t have that in 1970, but we didn’t know we were “poor.” The poverty pimps have to keep changing the definition of poor to keep the dollars flowing.
I’m real tired of people who don’t take responsibility for their lives and actions. I’m tired of hearing them blame the government, or discrimination, or big-whatever for their problems.
Yes, I’m dam tired. But I’m also glad to be 63. Because, mostly, I’m not going to get to see the world these people are making. I’m just sorry for my granddaughter.
Robert A. Hall is a Marine Vietnam veteran who served five terms in the Massachusetts state senate.
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