I'm not forcing anything

Posted By: sbMT on 2008-10-07
In Reply to: Well, see how you gals are? You'll flame another - poster mercilessly if they don't - sm

It is impossible to "force" your faith on anyone. Because if it is forced than it is not genuine. But I don't sit here and call people names about it! I asked a serious question and none of you who don't believe have answered me. Which makes me wonder?

I know that not everyone in this world is going to believe in Jesus. That is heart wrenching to me. See you look at us from the outside, and all you see are "brainwashed cliques" but come inside and you will see people heartbroken for this world. You will see people fall down on their knees for those of you who have used the free will GOD has given you to turn away from him.

Yeah I get a little heated sometimes when people say RUDE things about my Savior. But that would be the same as me talking badly about one of your loved ones. You wouldn't just sit idly by and let me. Well it really upsets me to no end when people want to bash the person who died for me. And He did. And he's coming back. And those who deny Him are going to have a lot to answer for.

Faith is a gift from God for those who earnestly seek him. Without it you cannot even begin to comprehend Him.

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Sam/Gourdpainter debate s/m - gourdpainter
- I agree, gourdpainter, to a point.... - sam
  - I agree with you, Sam in that - gourdpainter
    - Yep. If I was not absolutely convinced of what... - sam
  - FDR - hang on a minute
    - What does this have to do with Obama? - sam
      - one vote - hang on a minute
        Same to ya. I am glad you only have one vote... - sam
        yikes - hang on a minute
        What a stupid statement...racist? - sam
        What is a jive turkey? nm - dumb
        Ask ACORN. They are the ones who submitted... - sam
        The silence is deafening! For shame Sam nm - geek
        Helloo, ACORN submitted a voter... - sam
        This should be posted under the racist statement... - sam
        Ah ha, now your true colors come out - racist are we?
        See answer above. Aha. nm - sam
        not necessarily. I don't know about other states, but... - MT and worn out
        Voter fraud by democrats ...sm - ex animo
- Our pastor was talking just yesterday morning about how - wannie
  - Religious Right has already messed up too much in this - country - we need religion OUT of govm't,
    - Boy, did you sleep through U.S. History? - LT
      - Religious freedom. - And hallelujah for that.
    - Well you wouldn't want Obama then, right???? - He is "religious" ya know.....nm
    - This is the mindset and belief of the - people who want Obama
      - Born-again believers - gourdpainter
        My thing is - sbMT
        I agree - gourdpainter
        gourdpainter, my question is, why is it - that EVERY far, left wing
        Non-believers/Obama - gourdpainter
    - You're right - gourdpainter
  - I'm happy s/m - gourdpainter
    - Christianity...... - sm
      - Oh my! I have no words. Jesus would not be happy with you. - devout christian
        He died a long, long time ago! (If he was ever - even real, to begin with).
        Have you ever been very ill, or had a - surgery of any kind, ...
        Yes, he died - gourdpainter
        I don't see anyone forcing you to open posts...? - sam
        Umm, did I? What's your post got to do - with anything?
        OP said not to force beliefs on others... - sam
        How you figure that? - nm
        You obviously have no clue as to the Muslim...sm - racism abounds
        You're absolutely right....racism abounds - so does prejudice.......sm
        Self righteousness isn't appealing.... - sm
      - sPEAK THE NAME OF JESUS OUT LOUD - Judy
        I'm so glas my mind isn't hopelessly clogged up - with all that religious voodoo.
        Sad for you. - LT
        part of that comment is correct....... - sm
        Sigh - "glad" - not "glas". oy... - !
        Yeah, and rub your luck rabbit foot...sm - And wish upon a star
        Exactly who are the rest of you??? - Worth explaining? nm
        People who use their minds to decide what they do - in life, not superstition.
        So anyone that believes in God does not have - a mind? Really digging there. nm
        Not much of one, if it narrows their view - of the world so badly.
        View of the world........ - sm
        It doesn't narrow our view of the world, - gourdpainter
        yes it does - nm
        Well, it would if I thought like you....glad I - have something more.......nm
        Well, maybe so if s/m - gourdpainter
        Certainly you don't expect an answer? - sm
        Uh, the rest of us are those... sm - And wish upon a star
        evidence.......hmmmmm - sm
        Those who claim to have 'come to Jesus' as - adults were badly in need of a crutch.
        You know better deep inside, which is why you're - trying to back peddle.....nm
        I have one question - gourdpainter
        Wow you are so horribly rude - sbMT
        Well, see how you gals are? You'll flame another - poster mercilessly if they don't - sm
        Strange..... - sm
        I'm not forcing anything - sbMT
        TO SbMT - zoesnana
        A crutch is a crutch. Put 'lipstick' on it, and - it is STILL a crutch.
        What makes you think that everyone who believes in Jesus grew up in the church? - sbMT
        Amen........faith of a mustard seed!! - nm
        praying/wishing......... - sm
        Something to think about - gourdpainter
        Amazing, as I was just thinking this verse to - myself.......Amen! nm
        Thank you for posting this! - sm
        I am a sinner s/m - gourdpainter
        Isn't that what's known as 'blind faith'? - The 'Show-Me' State
        Blind faith..... - faith of a mustard seed....sm
        No need to ridicule. If you don't believe, fine.... - sam
        Rabbit's foot - zoesnana
        .....Not very lucky for the poor rabbit..... - :(
        There is every need to ridicule. sm -
        have you ever prayed? - nm
        Religion - zoesnana
        Of course. I apologize. It is the nature of the left... - sam
        No need to ridicule - cj
        There is NO need to ridicule s/m - gourdpainter
        Very well put, gpainter! :) nm - sam
        From a true nonbeliever....... - nm
        No need to ridicule, as most religious groups make - a very convincing mockery of THEMSELVES.
        And apparently they are not the only ones. nm - sam
        Quite true, when it comes to how ridiculous - you come off, with yer pomposity and all.
        Pomposity.........hmmmmmmmm - sm
- "I think everyone had better get out their Bible - and have a read of Revelations"
  - APPLAUSE! - sbMT
    - sbMT, you know what I think? - gourdpainter
      - We are very alike - sbMT
        sbMT - gourdpainter
        gourdpainter... - sbMT
        I love to study Revelations - gourdpainter
        Left behind - cj
        I did years ago n/m - gourdpainter
        No I haven't - sbMT
        when I read the first one - cj
    - I agree with one thing you said. sm - Learn some critical thinking skills.
      - facts, evidence, science, and reason - gourdpainter
      - Rational? - sbMT
    - Prayer and reading the Bible - Judy
    - If you are talking about something along the lines of Sharia law , it has already happened in the UK - MT and worn out
      - I can't wait to see what government sponsored god we will have - sbMT
        Government sponsored god - gourdpainter
        Victory in Jesus - sbMT
        That's it - gourdpainter
        Victory In Jesus!! another sou. Baptist - NM....
        Amen to that!!! - faith of a mustard seed.....nm
        Oh, you didn't get the memo? O, of course! - nm

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m-eo-w . . no one forcing you
to stay on the sinking ship.

I never said anyone was. Is anyone forcing you? tsk
tsk, tsk. How UNAMERICAN!

He's not forcing anybody to do it -
He is offering a tax credit of $4000 for college if you do it. Wouldn't your children be the ones to benefit from that at the same time as the community?

There is no one forcing you to get an abortion. nm
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Nobody is forcing her or you to use those options -
That is what I don't understand. Why do you feel "forced" in any way because that option is available.

Cigarettes kill millions of people - do you feel like they are forced on you?

Alcohol kills millions of people in one way or another - do you complain that that is forced on you?

Drugs kill millions of people - do you feel that is forced on you?

You have the choice of educating your daughter and letting her know that you do not believe that is an option in your lives - nobody is forcing you to make that choice... it is just like the other things I mentioned above, they are available in this world, but they are not options for me and my family and they are not forced on me because they exist.

Nobody's forcing their values on you.
Nobody's making you to become gay. Nobody is forcing an abortion on you. Nobody is compelling you to join their church. Nobody insists you drive a Honda. I won't tell you what books to read. You can listen to any music you like. Nobody's requiring you to do anything, not even give your permission. If you think what you have is diminished by someone else having it as well, that's rather.... infantile.

I don't see anyone forcing you to open posts...?
did i miss something?

there is no one forcing you to get pregnant when u dont want to be.
nm

Wouldn't that be forcing YOUR view?
xx

Hypocrite! You talk about pro-lifers forcing their

beliefs on you, but you do the same to us. Sure, a woman can choose to murder her baby or not. The reality is abortion clinics are full of young girls --- NOT WOMEN! Young girls who didn't have sense enough to use a condom or get free BCPs from a clinic. Young girls who thought it made them women just to have sex with a guy. Young girls who are faced with a huge life altering decision and are nowhere near emotionally, chronologically or intellectually prepared to make it.

My daughter, when she becomes a teenager, has an option available to her that I do not want her to have. But you have forced your beliefs on me.

Hmmmm.... so homosexuals AREN'T forcing their
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