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We don't need people pointing out "similarities" in known terrorists names to candidates who are running for President of the United States. This is not something I like seeing as a topic with the "oh this is freaky" added. This is not freaky and certainly not funny. WE DON'T NEED TO HEAR THIS. I would be equally upset if somebody linked John McCain's name with some horrible and vile person. This is what I would expect to come out of the John McCain camp as an ad trying to connect the two while "innocently" stating "oh I'm not saying that they are alike but it's just freaky".

Sure maybe people do see that (I didn't), but we certainly do not need anyone to be bringing this up. This kind of statement falls right along the lines of the statement that Hillary made when she said that she was staying in the race because "we all remember Bobby Kennedy was assassinated in June, right?" Well I guess you could call that freaky too.

To me pointing out something like this whether it's towards Obama or McCain is loathsome and I take great offense to this kind of comment or comparison. It sounds like others did too, so glad to know I'm not the only one.

I would have stated who and what they are debating. Kerry was furious. Sen. Sessions (R-AL) doesn't seem to want to work with anyone on "the other side" either.

Sen. John Ensign (R-Nevada) had a really good speech. He went through the whys and why nots of how this whole mess started. He is willing to work with the other side but he stated that the other side has to work with them, too, which so far, is not happening. He stated that the stimulus package was pushed through the house without any debate, without anyone seeing exactly what was in it, and it was the wrong thing to do. He doesn't care that O wants this passed by President's day. It has to be worked out slowly so they don't make the same kind of mistakes that they did with the last stimulus package.

It's not just tax cuts the pubs want. They want some of the spending in there, too, just not the most ridiculous items. They want the infrastructure in but not just 3% of the total package spread out over 4 years. It wouldn't make much of a difference.

Now, on another subject, I had MSNBC on another TV. Surprisingly, they were only allowing sound for the debate when the democrats are speaking. Hmmm.

North, get a grip woman! Are you and A. Nonymous some kind of comedy team? You�re feeding the straight lines to AN and she (he?) is getting the laughs? Wow are your buttons easy to push. I sure hope AN (the drunken cheap scotch/irish nazi) does not stop posting, because this is just too much fun to watch.

Yeah we get it. You�re black, educated and you speak English well. You write well so you probably speak OK too. But you just don�t read so great. Where in any of these posts did AN say you personally were uneducated or did not have a work ethic? Where is the part about you not speaking English? Did you see the word ebonics and just stop reading? If you care so much about all people why are you not standing up for the other two groups mentioned - do you have something against hispanics and hillbillies?

You have to be very worn out from carrying around that big chip on your shoulder. Why don�t you put it down and stop taking offense at remarks that were obviously not aimed your way? The topic was career mooches and freeloaders. You seem to be an MT and have a job or be on the site looking for one. Nobody called you anything - why so defensive?

I was also accused of being the notorious gt also. Not sure what their obsession is with this, perhaps they are hoping that all the posters who do not agree with are one in the same.

What I hear you saying is that this board's posts need to reflect your personal ideology and that it is your role to call our attention to posts that you consider too liberal.

In looking back at your protests on this board, particularly a post where you have repeated the word hate over and over, combined with your delusions of grandeur that this board should operate according to your political agenda, I think you are mentally unbalanced. As a result of mental illness I doubt you will be able to comprehend any reasonable explanation of why what you are doing is misguided.

I suggest that if you want full control of a political board and the ability to censor each post that you create your own website.

Also, I am not sure why you have been allowed to run amuck on this particular board.

How does one person's possibly tactless comments excuse another person's comments? This line of thinking doesn't make sense. So you're saying it's okay for Ann Coulter to be a brutal witch with her comments because if you look hard enough you can find comments from the opposing side that were also of questionable moral character? So what? LIke I always told my kids when they were little, just because other people are doing it doesn't make it right.

Besides, Ann quibbles that the widows are using their grief to promote their political agenda, well, my thought is that every time some family member of a war casualty goes on the local news saying how proud they are of what the military is doing in Iraq, etc., isn't that ALSO promoting a political agenda?

After much research, I feel I can comment on this. Embryonic stem cell research has more than one goal. There is the harvesting of aborted babies stem cells, but there is also the stipulation in small writing that embryos can be cloned in the lab and those stem cells used for research. There is also this article, not released for general knowledge. I am sure that Michael Fox, as young as he is, and being the father of small children, would like to believe that embryonic stell research is going to be the be all and end all for Parkinson disease. I would want the same thing. But it just isn't and there are sinister forces at work just waiting for this bill to pass and for all heck to break loose. If it sounds dramatic, I don't think it is dire enough warning. An informed public is a forewarned and armed public. Here is the article I mentioned above.

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Stem cells might cause brain tumors, study finds

Sun Oct 22, 3:22 PM ET

Injecting human embryonic stem cells into the brains of Parkinson's disease patients may cause tumors to form, U.S. researchers reported on Sunday.

Steven Goldman and colleagues at the University of Rochester Medical Center in New York said human stem cells injected into rat brains turned into cells that looked like early tumors.

Writing in the journal Nature Medicine, the researchers said the transplants clearly helped the rats, but some of the cells started growing in a way that could eventually lead to a tumor.

Various types of cell transplants are being tried to treat Parkinson's disease, caused when dopamine-releasing cells die in the brain.

This key neurotransmitter, or message-carrying chemical, is involved in movement and Parkinson's patients suffer muscle dysfunction that can often lead to paralysis. Drugs can slow the process for a while but there is no cure.

The idea behind brain cell transplants is to replace the dead cells. Stem cells are considered particularly promising as they can be directed to form the precise desired tissue and do not trigger an immune response.

Goldman's team used human embryonic stem cells. Taken from days-old embryos, these cells can form any kind of cell in the body. This batch had been cultured in substances aimed at making them become brain cells.

Previous groups have tried to coax stem cells into becoming dopamine-releasing cells.

Goldman's team apparently succeeded and transplanted them into the rats with an equivalent of Parkinson's damage. The animals did get better.

But the grafted cells started to show areas that no longer consisted of dopamine-releasing neurons, but of dividing cells that had the potential to give rise to tumors.

The researchers killed the animals before they could know for sure, and said any experiments in humans would have to be done very cautiously.

Scientists have long feared that human embryonic stem cells could turn into tumors, because of their pliability.

Opponents of embryonic stem cell research cite such threats. Many opponents, including President George W. Bush and some members of Congress, believe it is immoral to destroy human embryos to obtain their stem cells.

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Finally, I will close with President Bush's words about embryonic cell research because I agree with him 400%. I suppose the division lies between conservative and liberal in defining the meaning of life.

(quote) believe America must pursue the tremendous possibilities of science, and I believe we can do so while still fostering and encouraging respect for human life in all its stages. (Applause.) In the complex debate over embryonic stem cell research, we must remember that real human lives are involved --both the lives of those with diseases that might find cures from this research, and the lives of the embryos that will be destroyed in the process. The children here today are reminders that every human life is a precious gift of matchless value.(unquote)

Amen, President Bush, Amen.

I'll type slower so you can understand

Stem cells might cause brain tumors, study finds