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I was hoping to see a reply like....oh..for the love of Pete or Michael...whichever brother struck your fancy. Instead we just get a red angry face.

I tried to have an exchange of ideas with you some time ago. I had hoped that maybe you were someone who was sincere, reasonable and truly were here to debate. You indicated you would answer my post *more in depth later.* That was on May 13 -- a month ago tomorrow. You have yet to respond, outlining your own views as I had outlined mine in an attempt to have an honest debate.

Instead you have elected to hijack threads to bring conflict to this board. You pretend to be *respectful* when in fact you are not. This post was clearly addressed to Liberals, but why should you have to respect that? You should control everything, shouldn't you? All the boards on the internet. Which religion I should believe in. Who I am allowed to love. When I'm allowed to die. Every single thing in my life (and in all Americans' lives) that is simply none of your business should be controlled by YOU and those who share your beliefs.

You have numerous posts repeatedly beating up Democrat because she posted a post with a *bad word* in it, yet the *bad spirit* of the words written by Ann Coulter is far worse than any one curse word.

And your very own President described the Constitution as a piece of paper, using God's name in vain. What kind of honest devout Christian President would refer to the Constituation (which he swore to uphold and protect) as *only a G**D***** piece of paper*?

I admit to being nowhere near as perfect as you are, Lila, but sometimes I get angry and a curse word will escape my lips. But regardless of how angry I get, I can't ever bring myself to *damn God* in my speech. It's just something I've never done.

And since I'm not near the perfect Christian that you are, Lila, I won't be going to heaven, as those of certain Christian beliefs keep telling me. These superhumans hold the *key* to heaven, and if don't believe EXACTLY as they demand I must, then I am doomed to eternal hell and damnation.

The original article posted by Lurker, that has been littered by your posts and those of your gang, is about Ann Coulter's self-professed *superiority* to ALL LIBERALS. She refers to liberalism as a religion, and by doing so, she is belittling every single religous liberal in America. It's about her uncontrollable hatred and mean spiritedness, and I must say that you and your friends on this board do an excellent job of mimicking her. They do say that imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. Ann would be very pleased.

You're a fraud, Lila. I had hoped you would be different, had hoped you were a genuine and honest person. But instead, you're just another Ann Coulter when it comes to the motive behind your presence here. You're only here to create discomfort for others. You have nothing positive to offer. The only difference between you and Ann is that SHE'S the one with the book and book tour, TV appearances and is making millions of dollars off the pain of people. But if there IS one thing I have faith in, Lila, it's that you're made of the *same stuff* as Ann Coulter, and that should certainly take you somewhere in life.

You pretended to be someone who, a month ago, claimed to want to answer my post *in more depth.* Why did you lie about doing that, Lila? And why did you instead choose to just be like all the other snipers who insist in inserting themselves on this board? You're choosing hollow, meaningless, childish swipes over thoughtful reasoned communication. I'm very disappointed in you, Lila. I had hoped your heart was pure and your character authentic.

As far as *bad language* is concerned, I think I'd rather be told the truth by someone who curses like a sailor than to be lied to repeatedly by someone hiding behind a Bible. The *badness* is in the spirit and the deed, Lila, not in the words. And to repeatedly attack Democrat for making a human error regarding a word, after she apologized repeatedly to you, isn't a good thing, Lila. There's no substance or intelligence there. Just plain old nastiness.

like he hurts. It makes me uncomfortable to watch. Obama has a significantly larger amt of data in his mind (constitutional law professor, etc) to sort through, gather, and assemble before he responds to a question. It is to his favor that he does not immediately yelp out an answer like a trained seal.

Following his loss to George W. Bush in the 2000 South Carolina primary, John McCain did something extraordinary: He confessed to lying about how he felt about the Confederate battle flag, which he actually abhorred. "I broke my promise to always tell the truth," McCain said. Now he has broken that promise so completely that the John McCain of old is unrecognizable. He has become the sort of politician he once despised.

The precise moment of McCain's abasement came, would you believe, not at some news conference or on one of the Sunday shows but on "The View," the daytime TV show created by Barbara Walters. Last week, one of the co-hosts, Joy Behar, took McCain to task for some of the ads his campaign has been running. One deliberately mischaracterized what Barack Obama had said about putting lipstick on a pig -- an Americanism that McCain himself has used. The other asserted that Obama supported teaching sex education to kindergarteners.

"We know that those two ads are untrue," Behar said. "They are lies."

Freeze. Close in on McCain. This was the moment. He has largely been avoiding the press. The Straight Talk Express is now just a brand, an ad slogan like "Home Cooking" or "We Will Not Be Undersold." Until then, it was possible for McCain to say that he had not really known about the ads, that the formulation "I approve this message" was just boilerplate. But he didn't.

"Actually, they are not lies," he said.

Actually, they are.

McCain has turned ugly. His dishonesty would be unacceptable in any politician, but McCain has always set his own bar higher than most. He has contempt for most of his colleagues for that very reason: They lie. He tells the truth. He internalizes the code of the McCains -- his grandfather, his father: both admirals of the shining sea. He serves his country differently, that's all -- but just as honorably. No more, though.

I am one of the journalists accused over the years of being in the tank for McCain. Guilty. Those doing the accusing usually attributed my feelings to McCain being accessible. This is the journalist-as-puppy school of thought: Give us a treat, and we will leap into a politician's lap.

Not so. What impressed me most about McCain was the effect he had on his audiences, particularly young people. When he talked about service to a cause greater than oneself, he struck a chord. He expressed his message in words, but he packaged it in the McCain story -- that man, beaten to a pulp, who chose honor over freedom. This had nothing to do with access. It had to do with integrity.

McCain has soiled all that. His opportunistic and irresponsible choice of Sarah Palin as his political heir -- the person in whose hands he would leave the country -- is a form of personal treason, a betrayal of all he once stood for. Palin, no matter what her other attributes, is shockingly unprepared to become president. McCain knows that. He means to win, which is all right; he means to win at all costs, which is not.

At a forum last week at Columbia University, McCain said, "But right now we have to restore trust and confidence in government." This was always the promise of John McCain, the single best reason to vote for him. America has been cheated on too many times -- the lies of Vietnam and Watergate and Iraq. So many lies. Who believes that in Afghanistan last month, only five civilians were killed by the American military in an airstrike, instead of the approximately 90 claimed by the Afghan government? Not me. I first gave up on the military during Vietnam and then again when it covered up the death of Pat Tillman, the Army Ranger and former NFL player who was killed in 2004 by friendly fire.

McCain was going to fix all that. He was going to look the American people in the eyes and say, not me. I will not lie to you. I am John McCain, son and grandson of admirals. I tell the truth.

But Joy Behar knew better. And so McCain lied about his lying and maybe thinks that if he wins the election, he can -- as he did in South Carolina -- renounce who he was and what he did and resume his old persona. It won't work. Karl Marx got one thing right -- what he said about history repeating itself. Once is tragedy, a second time is farce. John McCain is both.

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Bush systematically deregulating (savings and loans - Keating 5) and wall street so that the souless corporations can do whatever they want without any limits. they have removed the safety factors built into the system after the great depression. Well, now we have the situation that deregulation brings. As Romney said at this years' repub convention - McCain is going to go at all the regulations on industry with a weed wacker.

Oh and saw on the news that this bailout will affect even the people who do live within their means because it means that the Jones' house that gets foreclosed on will reduce the amount my house is worth and therefore I lose too! Something needs to be done and quick!

It is not fair to simply point out Obama's plans when you do not mention McCain's either. What are McCain's plans? All he seems to do is "knock" Obama. Oh better consider what Palin has to say too, you know McCain is getting no younger or any healthier for that matter.

I was rolling my eyes, grimacing, and ready to blow my top at some of the things the O stated. I also giggled and laughed at some of his outrageous plans.

It's McCain for me. No way do I want to live under the O's vision of "change the world".

Oh, hey! I take that back!!! If O becomes President, I think hubby and I will quit working as then we can have everything handed to us, too. Yeah. That's it! We'll just quit and let the rich people take care of us. Hubby has been working since he was 8, I started when I was 14, and I'm talking 46 years of hard work to get where we are now.

If McCain is elected, for the first time in American history, health insurance benefits will be taxed, and the insurance companies will be the next "Wall Street" fiasco.

I'd be disappointed, just as I would be if McCain is

The Ugly New McCain