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Posted By: don't know how you missed them on 2008-10-23
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Well point to the law that directly gives
our military authority over the U.N.? Where is the AGREEMENT that says we have to approve military action through the U.N.? It was not covered in my college political science class or the numerous classes I took between high school and college. We have consulted the U.N. before taking military action AND consulted and worked with the UN for YEARS on the Iraq situation. Iraq/S Saddam consistently and constantly thumbed his nose to the U.N. authorities and broke inspection agreements. I know that not every one in the U.N. supported the war, but if I'm remembering the correctly there was not enough opposition to put up a direct U.N. declaration to oppose the war.
I think we are reading different versions of history and the laws of the land.
Post directly above this
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Really? A lib posted directly under here
and presented an interesting challenge to sm about the Bloomberg article in "while analyzing those millions." Instead of claiming that liberals "always attack the messenger," talking about how they don't want to be educated, making wisecracks about mindreading and trying to belittle them for ALWAYS being on the attack, why don't you pitch in and help sm answer that little puzzler about the FDIC funds referred to in the article? So far, we see no one stepping forward to answer that challenge. It's not that hard. She gave 2 clues.
Well I actually do believe he was talking directly
about the O when he was addressing their failed PM. Two failures in charge of countries. I think if the PM can come sliming here begging for money, this guy should come over and explain to our congress (cos they don't evidentally get it) what they have done to the economy of the world. But the speach he gave might as well been talking right to the enlightened one.
It was a reply to the post directly above it...
"In his private career, seems like he did a lot of work for the poor and several civil rights cases. I guess that would make some conservatives a little afraid of him :-)"
It is the taunt I was replying to. Democrats have not in the past had a stellar reputation for championing the civil rights of African Americans and I pointed that out. And they became interested in the poor African American AFTER they finally got the right to vote. Coincidence?
Again, respectfully...replying the the taunt.
To answer your question directly
Would I accept less to save a MTSO, no I would not, but then we're not making near what the auto workers are making, apples and oranges. I feel I pesonally have to take a stand regarding ASR and pay for such. What they're asking us to take is ridiculous. Regardless of global economy, we still live in the good ole US of A and have a certain standard of living to uphold. As long as it is possible I will not do ASR nor will I edit reports being typed abroad. I left MQ last year, refusing to put up with their nonsense. Thankfully I only have a few years til retirement.
I did address it directly. In the post above....
and you proved my point about the attacking. Typical dem.
Took your advice - went directly to the source -
Okay, went to the source. Says the same thing - Obama 49, McCain 47 with likely voters.
Drudge shows the facts. You were okay with them when they favored your candidate.
What I am hearing is if Obama was so much better than McCain he would certainly have a much larger lead (like 20 points or more), but he doesn't, which goes to show that it is a very close race and you need to prepare yourself that either candidate could win.
Thanks for that info. I did go directly to this man's site...
and he talks about his email there also. I don't put much stock in any web-based sites; too much can be fabricated through the guise of anonymity.
I am talking Palin directly
That person who protrayed herself to be so righteous, so godly, Miss Goody-Goody has lots of skeletons in her closet yet to be all shaken out. It was really, really important when all just held onto every little word or piece of clothing that did not belong to her in the first place discussed. I am glad to see her falling off that high horse, yes I am.
Bravo Zauber..well said and directly to the point..
I will never understand how people think that opposing an erroneous(in this case fictional and delusional) government policy is unpatriotic and a detriment to our troops. I don't want to see any more die for reasons that do not nor have ever existed.
If someone ever posts something directly about one of Obama's children...
like that nastiness posted about Sarah Palin's daughter, I would be criticizing that as well. THere is absolutely NO reason for bringing a candidate's children into the political battleground. I have seen nothing posted here about lies about Obama's family other than some posters taking shots at the way the two women dress, and Cindy McCain got it as bad as Michelle Obama. I think that is pretty silly on both sides. I saw someone post what Michelle said about being proud of her country. It went away pretty quickly. I saw a lot of worse things about cindy Mcain winning her battle over prescriptin drug addiction, but the posts were much more hateful, mean, and personal.
Michelle Obama was out stumping for her husband and she said something in public people thought she should explain.
Barack Obama used drugs in his youth and was open about it. No one here condemned that. yet they tore the hide of Cindy McCain in strips because she admitted an addiction to prescription drugs because of an injury. do you find that fair? At ALL fair?
Why can't we at the very LEAST leave minor children out of this???
That should read: McCain directly denied
then continue reading the above post. time for another cup of coffee.
The moderator asked you to stop directly below this post.
You don't know the meaning of the word *respectful.* You want to come here and censor this board and lay down the law about what is *newsworthy* and what isn't, the same way you people want to control every aspect of every American's life. How ya makin' out in that regard? Not too well, eh? 
You and your other sidekick(personality?) below don't come here to debate.
You come here to incite, and regardless of your promises, you'll never leave. Nobody is bothering you on your board, and you have to release your evil vile hatred somewhere or else you will explode, so you come here.
If you want to see vicious, consult the nearest mirror.
Typical pub. Can't address a single issue directly.
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Evidently, pubs didn't care that McC directly denied
tried to diffuse all the scare tactics fall-out. What I want to know is why would McC supporters and their campaign turn a blind eye to a frightened senile old woman and keep right on pushing agendas that will produce more such embarrassing moments for their own candidate? Is this the kind of leadership we can expect under a McCain regime? How disconnected is this candidate from his own campaign management and supporters? Is that really the picture you want to paint for him? How much more fuel do you guys intend to use to stoke the fires of ignorance, division and deceit?
McCain seemed really sad last night when he tried to reassure that shaking, frail, senile old woman, but instead of looking presidential, he just looked like a beaten down has-been. Congratuations on an utterly moronic campaign strategy. Enjoy the fall-out.
Yes, the chips exist honey. I was speaking directly to the hysteria evoked
It shows a distinct lack of knowledge about the world and the peoples who inhabit it.
As to those that perpetuate this mythos...well, if you allow anyone to prey on your fears, you give them power over you. People need to investigate all sides of an issue, not just the perspective they agree with or the one spoonfed to them.
Not to mention that the "Jihaad" holy war itself was caused directly from Daddy Bush having to
rush in with Desert Storm in order to secure the oil wells, securing the oil for all his oil baron friends and himself. Bin Laden himself said that when we rushed in, we had "tainted" Muslim soil and felt he had to retaliate. Of course, these are the ravings of a madman, but Bush policies directly inflamed the already hostile Taliban fighters. Also, the Bush and Bin Laden families have a long history in the business world, and the night of September 11th, the government made it pssible for Bin Laden family members in this country to flee and not face retaliation........please look it up in the newgroups, I have seen many amazing documentaries about these facts on Discovery, History Channel, Military Channel, and some of the news channels.
we need more posters
here about the liberal issues, the more we have, the more the bilge from the right will be diluted. Don't be run off, now girl.
did the dem posters
on this board ever consider that this country is lost to yokels and religious fanatics who actually enjoy the vittrole of the Fox nation? That they elevate a corrupt, sarcastic shrew nobody to a Great New Candidate? That they actually view anyone from any other country in the world as a scarey fur-i-ner and think that the fact other countries look down upon us is proof we are #1? Our schools have gone steadily downhill. Our families are falling apart. There are basically fewer and fewer educated and intelligent people around to see beyond the poison being spoonfed to us by the republicans. Remember in the Frankenstein movies there was only 1 monster but dozens and dozens of ignorant village people whipped up in a frenzy chasing him with sticks and torches. We will have the government we deserve. You can bank on it.
For those posters below who like to
- Bush ignored the advice of more than 450 economists, including the Bush administration's own Economic Advisement Council and his own treasury secretary, when they warned that his tax cuts would fail as a growth stimulus, increase inequality and worsen the budget outlook
- Unemployment rate rose from 4.2% in January 2001 to 6.3% in the first 2-/12 years of the Bush administation.
- During the first 6 years, income rose an abysmal 1.6%. Though the inflation rate was at historic lows during those years, (2% to 3%), income failed rise at the same historically low rate.
- Poverty rates rose from 11.7% in 2001 to 12.7% in the first 6 years.
- When compared to business cycles from the previous 50 years (1949 to 2000), Bush policies underperformed in terms of GDP, jobs, income and consumption…especially in the jobs sector. Go here and scroll down to the economic growth section for a really cool graph that illustrates this point. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_policy_of_the_George_W._Bush_administration
- Income inequality rose as the Bush policies benefitted the top 1% of the income earners. The Congressional Budget Office, shows that "the average after-tax income of the richest one percent of households rose from $722,000 in 2003 to $868,000 in 2004, after adjusting for inflation, a one-year increase of nearly $146,000, or a whopping 20 percent. In 2005, the top 1% received its largest share of gross income since 1928.
- Total budget surplus for FY 2001 was $128 billion dollars. Here's how W eliminated that and added to the US public debt:
Fiscal Year Value %GDP
2001 144.5 billion (B) 1.4%
2002 409.5B 3.9%2003 589.0B 5.5%2004 605.0B 5.3%2005 523.0B 4.3%2006 536.5B 4.1%2007 459.5B 3.4%
Notice how the value and %GDP trend reversed under the democratic congress.
8. Pubs like to blame dems for opposing oversight on Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae. They fail to mention that the 2 times during the Bush administration the issue of an oversight agency was entertained occurred in 2003 and 2005…under republican majorities in both House and Senate. Those dems must have had some help from somewhere.
the administrator, not the posters
I did not say I have information on IP addresses..I suggested to the conservatives if they think I am constantly posting with other handles than my own, they could contact the administrator and ask her to check the IP address of the posts the conservatives keep saying I am posting under and it would prove I ONLY POST UNDER GT, NO OTHER HANDLE..Those other posters are NOT ME..The administrator of this site of course can check IP addresses..NOT US, the administrator..
LOL, three different posters, I assure you
You are the one who is entertaining and silly cause gt, dixiedew and libby are three different posters, not one and the same..so you are the one who is laughable..LOL
The posts were not from posters outside of the US. They
were from posters from within the U.S.
We have had several posters here from out of this country.
They were dispatched post haste by the people on this board because they did not espouse their views.
Posters like this need to be left alone
nm here
driveby posters
definition: Those who have families and activities that prevent them from parking 24/7 on a small message board repeating same opinions over and over.
No more than any of the Dem posters on this board....
there's that pesky double standard again. Rather sad, really.
Just keep it about the politics, not the posters.
If the personal attacks keep going, nobody will be left to disagree...then we'll have a pretty boring one-sided Politics board....nobody wants that:-)
Fight away, but please keep it about the issues and/or candidates and not about each other.
Re: Right-Wing posters - sm
Not all of us are 'all for this pay-my-mortgage idea.'
I'm a conservative Republican and I think it's baloney that people who greedily signed their lives away to buy houses they couldn't afford should get a hand out. Their hand out came when they were allowed to ATTEMPT to pay the mortage they contractually agreed to. If they blew it, tough luck. No hand outs for irresponsible behavior.
I agree that if Uncle Sam wants to cut people checks for 75K, it should be for ALL Americans. And I'd be a danged site more resonsible with that money that these greedy homeowner-overreachers would have been.
ATTENTION POSTERS
There are way too many personal attacks, foul language and abusive posts going on here.
Read the sticky above. Also read that it is NOT saying to write whatever you want on here.
We're getting loaded with report after report after report to delete messages from this board.
Back off and take it easy on people. Absolutely NO MORE personal attacks. You don't have to like a candidate, but that doesn't make the poster who does any less of person nor do they deserve to be attacked or belittled or called names.
The same is true for those that are reporting absolutely every little thing on here. Read the sticky. Beware of flaming in these posts. If you are too sensitive to be on a political board, then please don't read the posts.
shelly -- don't let these posters
discourage you. Keep spreading the word. As a previous O supporter, I knew that he was pro-choice. I did not, however, know to what extreme. I simply thought he chose to support Roe v. Wade, as many do. Had it not been for this board, I never would have researched and found out about the FOCA. There are people on this board who can still be won over. Keep on "harping"!!!
The people who are trying to keep religion out of politics are the same ones trying to keep it out of our schools, our money, and ultimately our homes.
Here we go - bashing posters again
you claim the republicans bash and she's not bashing YOU ARE!!!!!!!
For all Politics posters - sm
If you have a problem with a post, use the Report Message button at the top of the screen. Do not post openly about it.
Personal attacks are not going to be left on the board. Discuss your views and perspectives, debate, argue but leave off personal attacks.
Every poster here has the right to their own opinion. As long as there is no inappropriate language, name calling, hate speech or maliciousness, opinions can be expressed. While "freedom of speech" may be a right in the US, this is a privately owned site and the degree of "freedom" to say what you want is limited to what the board's administration outlines.
Whether or not you agree with the morality or position of a particular view is something you will have to moderate within yourself. You can do this by determining what you will and will not read. Stop with the personal banter trying to "notify" posters you are not reading their posts any longer, etc. Simply stop.
Reading the Politics board is an exercise in tolerance, patience and flexibility.
Feel free to email the moderators or administrator at any time.
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And these other posters are the people
we show respect for Obama! This man who continues to wow us with his dark and dangerous associations that we are to accept without question. I am still in shock!
I think that most of the posters on this board
forgot to read the post by the moderator. If they did, they wouldn't be acting so childish.
This used to be a nice place to discuss issues, but no more. It's been taken over by hostile posters. I stayed away for over a month and come back to what???...it's worse then ever!!!! They don't want to discuss issues. They just flame those that have a different opinion.
You have to stay cool and calm and take every post at face value, not get involved in a stupid argument, which is what most of these posts are lately, and not yell or use name-calling.
Freedom of speech does not work on this board and that is why I try not to post anymore. I just read and, sometimes, laugh at some of the most ridiculous ones, then count to 10 if I want to answer in an inflammable way...and leave the board instead.
Oh, yea. The other posters reminded me
I need a house. We are living in a basement, the front sided and open so we can have windows, but 3 sides under ground. This was the basement of the home we were going to build on top. Build this place for $10,000 using as much as we could from the old house that was flooded out in ྜ and had to build on higher ground even though we live on a hill.
We won't go into debt now because the county states our place is worth $100,00. Yeah, right. Try to get a loan or HELOC (which we would never do now). We'll live like this until we win the lottery. LOL
I don't think 80% of the posters on this board........... sm
are for the bill.
But then, I'm no analyst. LOL
Perhaps these posters were just "dreaming," as we do when we think.......sm
what we would do if we won a lottery, it is fun, but not practical. Now saying what you INTEND to do with a certain amount, like a tax-cut rebate, is different, so I would not be too hard on anyone on this board. There are so many folks going through such a tough, scary time, that sometimes you just have to dream a little. I love your monicker, BTW!
No, she had 3 posters above laughing
her off as if she didn't know what she was talking about, claiming they had never heard of such a thing. One even claimed to have over 1900 channels and had never heard this. That alone should be proof that the majority of the news channels do not present but one side. You see why Fox News is the most watched news channel there is? Good reason! Oh, and BTW, I just saw on Fox News the NAACP wants the young cartoonist AND his Editor fired, so I am sure their days with the Post are numbered!
No, her mother did not.......posters like YOU did!
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There are more trolls over here lately, and driveby posters...sm
And some of them even post how amused they are to come over here and dump on us. I guess this is their only source of amusement in a day is starting a fight on the liberal board. Whatever floats their boats?!?!?!
Please do not bash liberal posters. Thank you. nm
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Trying to intimidate posters who don't agree; always
hope a lot of these posters are not mothers
because they would be horrible role models for the younger generation.
you have no right to attack posters who disagree with you
there is too much of that going on here in my opinion
do those boring posters include you too?
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Stop insulting posters!
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Glad to know there are still posters with common
JTBB wouldn't know facts if it bit her in the butt. Same posts over and over, bashing Bush with absolutely NO facts but when facts are presented back, JTBB absolutely goes bezerk and starts ranting more and more about Bush. Made all these accusations when Obama was running for president, bashing Bush and actually rambled on and on about HIM destroying the constitution? Well, Bush has signed things into law which are against the constitution BUT I think it's about time JTBB got off the Obama love fest wagon and realize her precious Obama is just about to sink this country..........he doesn't even BELIEVE in the constitution let alone our civil rights.
Hope your post shuts JTBB up for a while until the Bush rants start again....
You have no right to talk to the posters on this board the way you have been
No, you’re the one who has no right to talk to us the way you have been. Who do you think you are. You’re the one who started in with “get off this forum and take a cold shower” I just repeated your words back to you. I see you sure didn’t like it when it was said to you, so why do you think it’s okay for you say it to others (no that is not a question – it’s a statement).
So in your own words it comes right back to you - “You have no right to talk to me like that. Who do you think YOU are. You are not the owner of this forum, not a moderator, and not management – you are just you.”
If you don’t want to be told to get off this forum, then you should not be telling others they need to get off the forum.
You claim you weren’t rude??? Here’s some of your quotes –
- get off this forum and take a cold shower
- You are a joke, 'Backward typist,'
- Confused or imbibed?
- There are meds against paranoia, don’t you know?
- You suffer from delusions
- The mind and world of caged-in Republicans and those whose life adheres to every little detail mentioned in the Bible, those are the ones who live in a small world
- paranoid and delusional, is this written in the Bible
- are you o.k.? Or did your UTI reach your brain (oh my wasn’t that one nice)
Oh, and here is an especially good one you said –
“I hate to repeat myself for those who have a slow mind.”
You have been on this board calling people losers, slow minded, pathetic, hateful, etc, etc
We know your democrat – we get it and that’s fine. (please don't try to convince us you are independent - we read your posts. Nothing to be ashamed of being a democrat. Everyone is entitled to their believes/opinions, but that’s doesn’t give you a free pass to bash others and call others names.
My suggestion again is that if you can’t handle a conversation without bashing someone because they don’t believe the same as you, or it just gives you joy to cut others down, there are other forums on the internet that you might be happier at. The moderator has said many times “no flaming”. It’s even at the top of the board and you might want to read it. Your getting very close.
It's just that the other posters tonight were much more respectful and better informed.
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