How pathetic. I am not scared by intelligence.
Posted By: I am scared of Obama, since he shows very little.n on 2009-06-17
In Reply to: I agree with you too, JTBB. - No intelligent conversation here now.
nm
Complete Discussion Below:  marks the location of current message within thread
The messages you are viewing
are archived/old.
To view latest messages and participate in discussions, select
the boards given in left menu
Other related messages found in our database
Be scared. Be reeeeally scared.
x
Same BS, different day to keep everyone scared.
At a time when even so called ‘respectable, unbiased’ news (organizations) MSNBC (cough cough) are covering the growing possibility of Government involvement in 9/11, on a day that Israel decides to go ahead and bomb Beirut proper, when Lamont wins on an anti-war ticket (Bush accused competing Democrats as being weak on terror), we suddenly hear of this ‘plot’ to kill thousands on airliners. What is the probability that the timing of this disclosure was carefully crafted to deter antiwar sentiment during stateside elections, create doubt about government involvement in 9/11 and foster complacency about the destruction of Lebanon?
Don't be scared...sm
“When viewing the tape of Obama’s “57-states” statement objectively, it is plain to see that he was pretty much operating on coffee fumes and airplane exhaust at that point in the campaign (early June). I wonder how well any of us could speak if we had been to all but 2 states in the union in less than as many days? His entire statement was halting and sporadic, certainly not characteristic of his normal style of speaking when he has had adequate sleep. Stop and think, just for a minute. How many times zones did he flew over, back and forth from coast to coast, and how often did he appear in 2 states on the same day? Would it have been humanly possible for him to sock away 8, 6, or even 4 consecutive hours of sleep while keeping such a schedule? His eyes were beet red and, when he stopped before he said the “7”, they actually rolled back and forth and up and down (doll’s eyes), like my own do when I have highway hypnosis. My impression was that the pause was taken because he could not even remember if he had said “50” or “40” since he was so zonked out. If he had said “40”, then the “7” would have made sense (off by one, if he had missed 2 states, or maybe he had missed 3 and 47 would have been correct), again, considering how tired he looked and sounded. Try to ignore all the pathetically desperate spin that is out there over this just for a moment and give this some real consideration. He is a human being, flesh and blood, with physical requirements (food, water, SLEEP) and limitations. Any real human being probably should be able to understand how this could have happened. One thing is for sure. It did not happen because of senility or Alzheimer’s.
To suggest that Obama does not know how many states there are in the union is absolutely absurd. He is a Harvard graduate who is running for president. He knew how many delegates he needed and he knew how many states those delegates would come from. You can make anything you want out of a statement if you take it out of its context. This just goes to show you how low his opponents are willing to stoop with their personal attack machine, especially when they are not able to effectively argue ISSUES. Has he actually exhibited the same PATTERNS that are described in the other posts about McCain (and clearly apparent)? Think about it, minus the spin, and be honest.
If you are really worried and want any real answers about whether Obama is all for show without any real substance, stop trying to find them in chat rooms, on CNN, Fox or YouTube. Clear your brain out and start from scratch. Without prejudice, start with HIS words. You can find them on his website, under issues or in his speeches. Read and listen to HIM, not his detractors. Try his books. Read some unbiased, factual biographical information (actions speak louder than words). Like the OP said, “rise above” the media. They want to put you down in the gutter and keep you there. Don’t let them.
About his past associations. How much do you really know about them? Where did you hear about it? Did you consider your sources? If you are referring to the Reverend Jeremiah Wright, you will find some of those answers in his books as well (written way before the controversy erupted on CNN and Fox). Caution. There are no direct answers. You will have to do a genuine search for them, but they are there. That, too, requires an objective read and the ability to put yourself in someone else’s shoes for a few minutes…and in this case, the shoes of a young biracial, international American man, confused and seeking clarity on what it means to be black. If you give this an honest effort, you will not find the same answers that the media outlets are trying to shove down your throat. You certainly cannot get an accurate portrayal of his character from cheap, filthy gossip, innuendo and speculation. If you want a make a real assessment, eliminate the middle man and go one-on-one….then make up your mind.
If all you hear is that he would raise taxes (another tired, tired conservative battle cry), then you have not been listening. Bill Clinton did not balance the budget with astronomical tax programs. He did it with spending restraints and eliminating pork and budget bloat. If we were not bankrolling the Iraq, Afghanistan and the war on terror ($859 billion dollars so far), tax hikes would not happen at all. Diplomacy is much, much cheaper and a whole lot more effective.
Why would anyone expect the health insurance plan to be free? Question is how much would it cost, will the coverage be better or worse, will it be accessible and affordable to more or less than the now insured. Before you slam the plan, read it. He is keeping no secrets from you. You have only to look around to other developed nations and their health care systems and compare them to ours to know just how much room there is for improvement.
Ask yourself these questions. Does anybody ever really “win” a war? Have our wars made us any more safe or secure? Doesn’t avoiding war and preventing war have any appeal to you at all? Don’t you think that, in the 21st century, we just might be evolved enough to figure out some other solutions to our conflicts and threats? For example, just how much good do you think it will do to put us back into a cold war with Russia? A guy who looks into Russian eyes and sees KGB does not know how to do anything else but that. Careful what you ask for.
Because they are scared.
And it's the nature of the beast!
I don't know about intelligence...sm
but I do feel that it will be the people in Washington in power are the ones that will benefit the most from an Obama White House, and a democratic majority in Congress. They want power and control over this country and its people. Truly frightening, in my opinion.
While the lower income bracket may benefit in some ways, truly, the majority of American people and their way of life, will not, and will be changed forever.
It will take at least a generation to recover from this. I fear the most for our children and grandchildren. They will have a hard time attaining what was once the American dream.
scared now
i am not one that can see one thing and that just turns my mind right around when it was so decided already. BUT, in this case, I dont know what to think. I am SHOCKED. I cant believe it. I wanted so bad to vote for O. I am so upset. I cannot vote for O. I just dont feel right about it as a Christian. It doesnt matter if he doesnt support these views of him. He knows it is being done and is not doing anything to correct peoples worship of him. If he is a God fearing Christian, he should be doing this first thing. That is my opinion, no one will change that. Now I am not voting. Not at all. I dont care if it is wasting my vote, voting for either one at this point is a waste. Not going. NOPE.
You are not alone, there are many more that think that way too. be scared, be very scared. nm
nm
I believe him and I'm scared.
Anyone here ever been the recipient of Medi-Cal/Medicaid benefits? Fasten your seatbelts..
I have a lot of friends and acquaintances from Canada who migrated HERE because of inadequate health care in their own country. Months-long waiting lists for routine procedures, days on gurneys in the halls and waiting rooms of the ED, lack of anesthesia for childbirth..etc., etc. Sounds crazy but it's reality.
We have a lot to look forward to.
How much INTELLIGENCE does it take to
nm
Thanks, anyway. But with intelligence, you can
nm
Wow! Now you really scared me! Is it really THAT bad?..nm
nm
So much for your pre-speech intelligence
He did talk about the war.... Hey, wait a minute, your intelligence was bad....You lied to us!!! You twisted the information to fit your post...Don't you want to apologize and tell us all what a terrible mistake you made!!!!  How does it feel to be called a liar without justification?
GT things everybody's scared of her
Not me. My theory is that gt is a person who doesn't have any power over anyone and comes to this board to be some kind of faux dictator. It's really pretty sad and she's almost single-handedly shut down any meaningful conversations with her hateful pukings.
I'm not scared by gt one bit. I've figured her out. She's really a very pitiful hate filled person who wouldn't have been allowed to stay on the board in the old format.
Somebody is scared! Too funny.
Maybe you should be scared, because more than likely a big scary, American-hating Democrat will be elected by all of us God-less, America-hating liberals. LOL! I know I'm scared with George I have no brain W. Bush running things, so maybe it is your turn. Liberals are not godless and do not hate America - they just have a different view than yours - gasp, how horrible right? A different view in America! Maybe you are the one that lives in the wrong country.
And how hypocritical of you to say that you grew up on welfare but don't want others to have that option! How do you know you would be either alive or healthy if it hadn't been for the welfare that took care of you? The ignorance of all of your statements astounds me, but this is America after all, and you have a right to your own opinions, obviously.
Some people are so scared of anything that isn't
 Do some jumping jacks.
 Write a letter.
 Take up a new sport.
 Make love.
 Take a pole-dancing class.
Anything to get away from your computers and -----
 (---- clear out your mind)!
We should all be very scared of people like this . . .
xx
Not scared at all....even your O said not to be cocky.....see ya on....
Let's just wait till "real" people get in those booths....no polls can accurately predict the outcome, this time included.
I am running scared
Of course you are right, Obama is closet Muslim. He was been faking practicing Christianity for 20+ years, even going so far as to have his daughters baptised just to fool us. Wow, why didn't I realize it until just now.
Oh, and the Muslims really hate the Jews. I better go find an attack to live in when Obama is elected.
Thanks so much for your help in getting me to see things so much more clearly now.
I am not underestimating the intelligence....
I do not doubt the intelligence. But there are a fair number of people who either don't care what the man is about or refuse to see it. I think bankrupting coal plants is a critical issue. I think being accepting of skyrocketing power bills for US to make a point is a critical issue. I think redistribution of wealth is a critical issue.
Bottom line tho..if he is elected, and if he does what he promises...be very careful what you ask for. Ask Venezuela and Cuba what a failed socialist state looks like.
Here's something for you scared folks. s/m
Here in NW Arkansas I've had the inside scoop for some time on a situation that ought to scare the living dickens out of everyone who works for a living.
I have known for some time that Don Tyson was going to come out of retirement and take over the reins of Tyson Food again. The news story broke yesterday. By the way, Don Tyson is a rabid Republican. None of the following is heresay, I know the guy.
Most of you probably find Tyson products in your local grocery. If you eat at McDonalds you eat Tyson chicken tenders.
In the farming area where I live probably 75% of the people have either worked in some facet of the chicken industry or they have retired with a fortune they made in the chicken industry. Most people contracted with Tyson to raise their chickens. Low income workers worked in the hatcheries and chicken processing plants. Not to mention the people who had good jobs in the corporate offices. Within the last several years Tyson replaced their low income workers with illegal aliens. They started building their own chicken farms and imported Mongs from (Minnesota or somewhere) to run them at much less cost than their contract growers but they are so big they didn't replace all of their growers.
What some of you call the "low lifes" worked in this chicken business, a dirty, nasty job. Some of them did this because there is nothing else they can do. They are uneducated, some are not too bright but they WORK. I know one who can't even read and write. Most of them now drive 25-30 miles to Fayetteville to work in fast food, as janitors or whatever low-paying job they can find and you see their old jalopies by the side of the road where they've either broken down or run out of gas. These "low life people" don't want handouts, they want to work. I feel sorry for them.
Now the news flash? Tyson has bought chicken processing plants in Argentina, Brazil and China because "the cost of feed is making it cost prohibitive to do business here." This is going to not only take jobs out of this country, it is going to leave many farmers who are still growing chickens (and pork) not only unemployed but with thousands of dollars in debt because of the investments they have made in chicken farming. 20 years ago it cost $100,000 for a farmer to build a commercial chicken house. I shudder to think what it costs today. The plan is to raise chickens abroad and process them and bring them home to America.
So all of you who work for a living whether you work in the chicken industry or another, had better be scared. John McCain from his own mouth proclaimed himself to be the biggest free trader ever. Free trade hasn't worked too well for Americans has it?
The inside scoop is buy Tyson stock now. Not me. I will NOT profit by costing American people their jobs.
I've changed my plean from "God Bless America" to "God Have Mercy on America."
How does this relate to the election? For one thing I don't think we need another "biggest free trader ever" in the White House.
Thanks for reporting this, but I am scared.
I know from 9/11 that Osama wanted to hurt us financially. In fact, I was waiting for a terror attack 2-3 weeks after our financial crisis to hit us in the US. Then with the elections and all, I forgot about it, but now this is brought up again. Did you hear about the Russian Nuclear Sub and had 20 deaths reported on that sub? What were they doing?
I must admit we should stock up on supplies like food, water, etc. Remember the 2000 crisis known as Y2K? I went to a lot of meetings about the Y2K. I know we are not having a Y2K problem, but it did help me to understand on what to do if power went out, food famine, money, etc.
I know all about the Palo Nuclear Power plant outside of Phoenix. In fact everything about it. Even visited the silly place. Too much knowledge actually. Care to know about it, email me. I know about the electric grid and how we could be out of power for months and how the grid is all connected to most states, except Texas may pull through it. I know why we have to have 3 day supply of water, because that is how long it will take someone to get to your neighborhood to give you more water each day in case you need it. Gosh, I even bought books about Y2K and should probably read those again because it tells you about how to handle a crisis.
Hope you live in a good neighborhood and better get to know your neighbors. You all might have to come together some time down the road during a crisis, otherwise, you could be at war with each other, stealing things, using guns and all because of fighting over things. I am thinking of worst case scenerio of course.
please do not insult my intelligence
Why do people here do that? You do not know me so do know presume that I am "not familiar with workers' movements and do not keep up with the news." You do not have to accept my opinion; I do not have to accept yours. But please realize I have every right to hold that opinion and to express it. Just because i see it differently than you does not give you the right to demean my knowledge of the subject. I have lived on the side of those who were definitely hurt be unionization. My opinion comes from personal experience as well as other sources. I am outta here now.
Intelligence offends you? First of all,
he beat the Clinton machine at their own game, and you should be way happy about that, at least Hilary is not Prez. Secondly, he is a black man who has been elected by the American people as President of the United States. Forgive me, but a dumb black man could never have accomplished that. You should be thanking God that we finally have a man in office who is intelligent, who may be able to help you and the rest of the middle class get a leg up. And a plus, he can make intelligent conversation with speaking in sentences, unlike W. Give the man a chance, he hasn't even been sworn in. No one bad-mouthed W until he royally screwed the American people.
I think the right is scared cuz we've got em
If they don't get OVER that fear, they just might END UP with 'the runs'.
Nah, not scared. Just disappointed.
That the ignorant have elected the inexperienced and we're all gonna spend the next 4 years paying for it.
Not scared. Just disappointed.
That the uninformed have elected the inexperienced, and now we're going to have to pay for it for the next 4 years.
If I were as scared as most on this board
I would definitely invest in a bomb shelter, and go hide out until the presidency is years gone by. What a bunch of crock. Scared. You sound like a bunch of little sissy girlies, not women. Do you still have to hide behind your mother's skirts. Ohhhhh, I am so scared- (shaking going on here).
Intelligence Committee?
A congressional delegation made what was supposed to be a top secret trip to Iraq this week. A few media outlets, including Congressional Quarterly, learned about it but agreed not to disclose anything until the delegation had left Iraq.
So what did Rep. Peter Hoekstra, R-Michigan do? By the way, Hoekstra is a former chairman of the Intelligence Committee and is still a ranking member. Hoekstra BLOGGED about the trip on his Twitter page and included details about their itinerary in updates posted every few hours.
In a related note, a recent debate between candidates for Republican National Committee chair featured an argument over who had more friends on Facebook. It's good to see the Republican party is embracing new technology.
Any person with intelligence would
see that this is a facetious post. No one really wants this to happen. This was just trying to prove a point and obviously the dems have twisted it around to be treason. I can't help but laugh at the idiocy on this board. It is so much better to call people names and cry about the last 8 years than to take a good look at what is going on in the world now. No worries though. When Obama runs this country into the ground, you will still blame Bush and live in your happy little demented bubble drinking kool-aid.
Wake up people. Bush is out of office. It is Obama's turn now. So let's pay attention to what he is doing....shall we?
Intelligence bores you?
.
I wonder what is the average IQ intelligence of Americans
Red State Road Trip: A 60-Minute Documentary
A Film by Chris Hume and L. Wild Horse |
QuickTime
DSL | 56K
Windows Media
DSL | 56K
RealMedia
DSL | 56K |
One would have to have a certain level of intelligence to be bored. sm
You are the weakest link. Buh-bye now. 
saw him on Bill Maher and he scared me!!!
Are you sure your are not confusing arrogance with intelligence and sm
confidence? Those are the qualities we need in a president aren't they?
Running scared? Ahhhh, don't think so
when McCain loses. The only way he will win is if they cheat - which we all know is possible - just ask Gore.
You people are scared to death of her.
nm
shock - blatant - scared
Picked up the emotional tone of this post. Recent study said that those who startle easily at small noises usually vote republican. Individuals who are on a more even keel usually vote democrat. Interesting to see the intertwining of theory with reality.
Intelligence offends you? Just an observation.
Oh oh, another big word....
Intentional Intelligence is my game!
I am way too smart to let your feeble attempts at right-wing propaganda affect the decisions I make regarding this election. I consider the source and do not give you a second thought! I have seen you repeat your talking points over and over and over again, hoping that if you repeat them often enough people will somehow believe that they are true. Well you don't fool me! You will have to find some of your Joe six-pack buddies and try to sell your line of crap to them. I am with the elite group!
Oh my...another Obama fan proves their intelligence
or lack thereof. How sad.
Scared of the map? Check out the post
and THEN wait for that election. T-minus 10 and counting.
I'm so scared I can't even type straight
I meant attic, lol!
I never saw so many scared people in all my life. s/m
I must be living on a different planet, listening to an Obama poster. What he actually said was "WE can change American and WE can change the world."
if you want to be scared, go the the mcdonalds at walmart....nm
x
Bush ignored the intelligence reports.
The attack most likely had been planned for a long time, but Bush and his cronies ignored all of the intelligence reports they received that indicated that a huge attack using airplanes was imminent. If he wants credit for keeping us safe since 9/11, he has to take credit for not keeping us safe on 9/11!
I always thought you had more intelligence than most of the left.
Palin has more intelligence than you would ever give
nm
Typical right-wing intelligence.
.
Wow, the intelligence in this message is astounding
x
OK, they agreed. Doesn't mean the intelligence was correct, and it obviously
wasn't, hence, no WMDs, no connection to Al Quaeda. Just getting rid of a brutal dictator - hey, I can live with that. So, does that mean we are now the world police?
Clinton has never, I mean never as far as I can recall or read made a connection to Al Quada and Iraq as was done by this admin. Our reasons for attacking Iraq under the Clinton admin. was in response to Saddam not complying with UN sanctions. Two different things.
The links to Al Quada that are operating in Iraq today are there in oposition to the US preemptive military action in Iraq. They simply were not there before this war began. Our president knew there was no connection before we went to war.
I remember when *intelligence* actually meant knowledge...sm
No I don't want to sit around and wait to be killed along with my loved ones or anyone else's, but when my day and time comes there's nothing anyone can say or do to stop it. What I don't agree with is the preemptive war in Iraq..period. And you are sadly mistaken, IF Saddam had ordered an attack or enabled an attack like 9-11 to be carried out in America I would be the first to stand up and say let's go get him. But, then Bush probably would go after Kim Jong-il, go figure.
Al Quaeda attacked America, yet we have spent the majority of our time and energy in Iraq fighting insurgents in that country and IMHO made more enemies for ourselves.
|
