Horrible for her family...
Posted By: Observer on 2007-12-27
In Reply to: Benizar Butto id dead. - piglet
and hearing the candidates' (both sides) reactions to it have been interesting. All have the similar thread tho...must preserve democracy in Pakistan.
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This is just a horrible, horrible thing to say, I am speechless...nm....
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Yeah and guess what the Bush family has tight ties with the Bin Ladin family....
so give it all a rest would you.
Family values....Obama's family can't even agree
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I feel very sorry indeed for Sarah Palin and her family, she ran for VP, not her family, she should
on her experience, her political record, etc, period, no attacking children, and no one throwing stones at "sinner" daughters, that is what I mean, the media wants to put people on pedestals and then throw stones at them at they hunt down not just the public figure, but all their loved ones, I think it is disgusting, it is a HUMAN issue, has nothing to do with politics on either side, why twist my post that way?
Interview with Charmaine Neville, family member of the Neville musical family
September 7, 2005
Women were Being Raped, Babies were Being Killed, Alligators were Eating People, But Where the Hell was the National Guard?
How We Survived the Flood
By CHARMAINE NEVILLE
This is a transcription of an interview Charmaine Neville, of New Orleans's legendary Neville family, gave to local media outlets on Monday, September 5.
I was in my house when everything first started. When the hurricane came, it blew all the left side of my house off, and the water was coming in my house in torrents.
I had my neighbor, an elderly man, and myself, in the house with our dogs and cats, and we were trying to stay out of the water. But the water was coming in too fast. So we ended up having to leave the house.
We left the house and we went up on the roof of a school. I took a crowbar and I burst the door on the roof of the school to help people on the roof.
Later on we found a flat boat, and we went around the neighborhood in a flat boat getting people out of their houses and bringing them to the school.
We found all the food that we could and we cooked and we fed people. But then, things started getting really bad.
By the second day, the people that were there, that we were feeding and everything, we had no more food and no water. We had nothing, and other people were coming in our neighborhood. We were watching the helicopters going across the bridge and airlift other people out, but they would hover over us and tell us Hi! and that would be all. They wouldn't drop us any food or any water, or nothing.
Alligators were eating people. They had all kinds of stuff in the water. They had babies floating in the water.
We had to walk over hundreds of bodies of dead people. People that we tried to save from the hospices, from the hospitals and from the old-folks homes. I tried to get the police to help us, but I realized they were in the same straits we were. We rescued a lot of police officers in the flat boat from the 5th district police station. The guy who was in the boat, he rescued a lot of them and brought them to different places so they could be saved.
We understood that the police couldn't help us, but we couldn't understand why the National Guard and them couldn't help us, because we kept seeing them but they never would stop and help us.
Finally it got to be too much, I just took all of the people that I could. I had two old women in wheelchairs with no legs, that I rowed them from down there in that nightmare to the French Quarters, and I went back and got more people.
There were groups of us, there were about 24 of us, and we kept going back and forth and rescuing whoever we could get and bringing them to the French Quarter because we heard that there were phones in the French Quarter, and that there wasn't any water. And they were right, there were phones, but we couldn't get through to anyone.
I found some police officers. I told them that a lot of us women had been raped down there by guys, not from the neighborhood where we were, they were helping us to save people. But other men, and they came and they started raping women and they started killing, and I don't know who these people were. I'm not gonna tell you I know, because I don't.
But what I want people to understand is that, if we hadn't been left down there like the animals that they were treating us like, all of those things wouldn't have happened. People are trying to say that we stayed in that city because we wanted to be rioting and we wanted to do this and, we didn't have resources to get out, we had no way to leave.
When they gave the evacuation order, if we could've left, we would have left.
There are still thousands and thousands of people trapped in their homes in the downtown area. When we finally did get into the 9th ward, and not just in my neighborhood, but in other neighborhoods in the 9th ward, there were a lot of people still trapped down there... old people, young people, babies, pregnant women. I mean, nobody's helping them.
And I want people to realize that we did not stay in the city so we could steal and loot and commit crimes. A lot of those young men lost their minds because the helicopters would fly over us and they wouldn't stop. We would make SOS on the flashlights, we'd do everything, and it really did come to a point, where these young men were so frustrated that they did start shooting. They weren't trying to hit the helicopters, they figured maybe they weren't seeing. Maybe if they hear this gunfire they will stop then. But that didn't help us. Nothing like that helped us.
Finally, I got to Canal St. with all of my people I had saved from back there.
I don't want them arresting nobody else. I broke the window in an RTA bus. I never learned how to drive a bus in my life. I got in that bus. I loaded all of those people in wheelchairs and in everything else into that bus, and we drove and we drove and we drove and millions of people was trying to get me to help them to get on the bus, too.
Charmaine Neville is a member of the third generation of New Orleans's legendary Neville musical family. She fronts the Charmaine Neville Band.
May be horrible. Unfortunately, it seems to
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Oh he is just horrible. I know what you mean.nm
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OMG...that is horrible!!!
Only 55 and too old for a CABG. How sad is that? That must have been horrible for your friend and her family!
Is this what we really want America? Listen up Kool-Aid drinkers!!!! Is that what you really want in health care?
Didn't see anything horrible
I did some checking on the man and found nothing too bad. A few minor issues with "bad spending" that were cleared up. He does seem to have a very liberal viewpoint, but I certainly would not call him crazy. Seems like he has done a lot for SLC, including landing the Winter Olympics, which brought a ton of money there.
In his private career, seems like he did a lot of work for the poor and several civil rights cases. I guess that would make some conservatives a little afraid of him :-)
yes it's really horrible when someone so much smarter than you
she doesn't bully or monopolize
I also agree. Horrible to think that way.nm
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you horrible atheist
I have been called lots of really nice things on this board myself! SO WHAT. Be a big girl already! 
What a horrible idea!
First, why should people who purchased homes that they cannot afford be rewarded by having their mortgages paid off? Second, what about people who were smart enough not to commit themselves to a mortgage they could not afford and are renting? I think it is beyond hypocritical of the conservatives on this board to complain about people wanting to be given something for nothing and then make a complete 180-degree turn when they are the ones on the receiving end. You signed up for the mortgage, you pay it. I am not contributing one penny to your bad judgment!
Isn't it horrible - see message
Right now it's just so bad I'm not blaming anyone for it. It's like being on a ship sinking, your too busy worrying about how to save yourselves you don't care anymore who put the hole in the boat. Think there's plenty of blame to go to everyone, but it's happening all over the world. Every day my husband tells me about riots and stuff going on in other countries. I just wonder if it will ever work its way out. I hear economist saying its going to take about four or five years, so now it's just struggling to survive.
It is such a horrible thing when
the American people disagree with the democrats who want to spend spend and spend more of OUR money. I guess that makes us a bunch of bumbling idiots, huh?
And you know what's funny....a bunch of these same Americans who don't like Democrats spending OUR money are the same people who didn't like it when the pubs were spending OUR money.
Then you have the ones who didn't mind when the pubs spent the money but hate that the dems are and vice versa. Double standards....all double standards. If McCain had won and was spending all this money, you would be spitting nails right now.
It must have been so horrible that O preferred not to
release the memos and the pictures.
And there are also some among them who are not yet proven guilty and are tortured until they admit.
Yes, we are so horrible we are fundraising for Katrina right now.
HORRIBLE PEOPLE WE ARE!
If it truly happend, it's horrible. But neither repub
to control what people do. All they can do is condemn the act. Obviously this was just some punk gangster, and my belief is that if she'd had an Obama sticker on her car, he probably would've carved an M for McCain.
That's horrible. Shame on the republicans
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ROFL! That is horrible but funny!
That's absolutely horrible - see message
Yes rape has got to be one of the most vile acts and I can't imagine how I'd feel if it happened to one of my family but what she did was absolutely dreadful. Not saying the guy didn't deserve to be punished, but to stoop so low and do to another human being something so awful, makes me wonder which one is worse.
I don't care how much you hate someone or how much rage you feel. There is never a good reason to commit violence, and of that type. Yes her daughter suffered through a rape, but the thought of what a human being was going through while they are in the process of dying in that fashion is just too much and makes me sad.
I believe that the lady and her daughter should have gone to counceling to work out their frustrations of injustice done to her daughter. If they were going to counceling maybe they should have switched counselors.
I will never think something like what she did is okay to do.
I feel sad for the daughter (rape victim) and the lady's family and also the family members of the rapist to know their relative suffered such a horror.
I hope the lady sits in jail and and gets the counseling she needs and I hope she doesn't get out for a long time.
I understand that is a horrible situation for
it's not my responsibility to pay a mortgage for someone who had no business getting one in the first place. I have to pay my bills and my mortgage; they should never have had a mortgage.
Right with you there, too!! I have horrible environmental allergies!...nm
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Horrible signs were stating
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Yeah, those horrible signs
Who do they think they are, gathering and exercising their first amendment rights like that? And all those signs came from republican central planning, didn't they? Maybe there could have been heavier attendance, but many of the potential supporters actually have jobs.
The MMM was organized by Farrakhan and the Nation of Islam. It would have been soooooo politically incorrect before, during and after the million man march to characterize all the participants as nuts, sexist racist kooks with a single hateful agenda, trouble makers, disgruntled black men just looking to cause problems.
Yet the reverse is excactly how tea party participants were portrayed, which is okey-dokey with most people.
In the dish it out/take it department, the left has pretty a sweet deal because they can say the most prejudiced, outrageous things about the right and get by with it. But when the right criticizes the left it is always claimed that we are selfish, racist, sexist, homophobic bigots. It's not about your race, your gender, or your lifestyle. It's about socialism versus capitalism, okay?
Yes, America is so horrible that nearly everyone from every country on earth sm
wants to live here. What does that tell you?
You are so right in your post, but you have to admit that in these horrible times particularly.....s
There are 50 and even 60-year-old workers who are filing unemployment for the first time in their lives, never thought they would, and are humiliated to do so! When there are no jobs to be found, and there is no money coming in, we do owe a hand up to our fellow man. Remember, Jesus said "for as much as you give to the least of my children, you do it unto me." There is welfare abuse, but saying that this is the main cause of our economic collapse or the major social problem is like saying that Jack the Ripper had a bad temper!! Desperate times bring desperate measures, it is good if you and I can to go bed with a full belly and a roof over our heads, but what about those WHO WILL NOT if they do not get help until they get back on their feet? Hey, I know some of those abusers and it gripes me to no end because my husband and I are working every available minute to raise our three planned, beloved kids. But atrocities like the OCTO-MOM and her 14 kids is the freakish, sad deviation from the norm, the bad exception. Do not condemn social awareness and social responsibility to those who truly need and deserve it, and that is more and more folks these days!! (off soap box for now, I think!!)
He invaded a country and committed horrible atrocities there...
we beat him back, should have taken him in the first Gulf war. But we're always going overboard trying to be nice and where does that get us? Same place it got us with N. Korea. Jimmy Carter barters a deal with them for food, and they take the money and use it to build nukes. Where's the outrage over that? Sometimes a people just cannot rise up and oust a dictator. They need help. And now the time has come for them to quit squabbling amongst themselves and make something out of their country. Let's not forget how many years it took for Japan and Germany to get on their feet. We need to give them a little more time. Heck, this country dissolved into civil war after 100 years. Time and patience.
It's like watching a horrible car crash in really slow motion.
Obama is letting them drop charges against terrorists for this horrible sick crime???
What orifice did you pull this out of?
Being faithful to his family
You're kidding, right?
I saw a show on TLC about this family...
To each his own, especially if you're footing the bill yourself, but this family is just uplain creepy. The children are all homeschool and virtually isolated from any other children other than another family or two who share the same nutty religious convictions. They even have their OWN church at home. The girls all wear these horrid sad-sack Little House on the Prairie identical plaid potato sack dresses that look like they were made from discarded curtains and when asked their only aspirations are to have lots of children and to be a mother. The boys also dress identically in little Leave it to Beaver short-sleeved dress shirts. It's called Full Quiver parenting, as in having as many kids as you get before you get to menopause or your uterus falls out, whichever comes first. I find the whole thing rather odd, but who am I to judge I suppose.
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Are you the one who has been threatening him and and his family?
and I commend you and your family
You are to be honored, and I do honor you all.
According to the bin Laden family sm
They disowned Osama a long long time ago. In fact, the bin Laden family owns probably the largest construction company in the Middle East. They built the new U.S. military installation in Saudi Arabia. I am thinking they were allowed to leave for fear of retribution by Americans. That was always my thought and I never really questioned it because I knew of the alienation between Osama and his family.
family values
She was left unsupervised at a very critical age (like the Down baby will be) and did not receive enough parental guidance to prevent this tragedy.
family values
Barack and Michelle have been married for years with not a hint of scandal. they have two beautiful age-appropriate children. Joe Biden has a beautiful blended family that truly loves each other. McCain dumped his gravely injured first wife for a beauty queen. Then he was pressured into picking another beauty queen with an Down infant who obviously needs a full time mother and pregnant teenager for his running mate. Family values, family values, family values.
I think they had a family discussion ...
and they decided as a family to go forward. And this would not be an issue had there are those judgmental among us who decided to make it one. In this day and time for the Dems here, of ALL People, to act all holier-than-thou and act like being pregnant not married still carries some kind of stigma just stinks to high heaven. These same people who have told us to go back to our churches and not push our morality on them. The hypocrisy is staggering. The very people they called judgmental are the ones surrounding this family to support them, not ostracizing them like they had announced their daughter was a pedophile or a serial killer.
I would put the judgment here much MORE in question than Sarah Palin's, and I think a lot of people out there in America whose lives this very thing has touched will do the same.
And I would say that regardless of what party affiliation she has too. If that was a Democrat running for VP and people wre bashing her in this way I would be yelling foul just as loud.
It just amazes me the depths some will sink to for political purposes. INcluding fileting a 17-year-old. Just because her mother made the announcement did not mean poeple were obligated to attack..that was a choice and it taking that choice says a lot about character...or the screaming lack thereof.
So you are saying now that they have NO family values because their...
daughter is pregnant and not married? Are you REALLY saying that?
there is for their family to decide ... and ..
apparently they did just that. What is right for them very well may not be right for others.
I just think it's a shame people won't let this go and focus on the issues!
Palin family...
They looked great to me. Cindy McCain reached for the child, it wasn't handed off to her. Bristol looked anything but terrified. She looked proud of her mother. And well she should be. She is running for VP of the United States. I thought it was especially sweet with the little girl licked her hand to smooth down the baby's cowlick. Circus freaks are the last words I would use to describe this family.
My family affairs are none
of your business. I am being viciously mistreated by the press. Wait, film this. It will get me some votes. Watch me bravely send my first born off to the endless war my political party started.
I have family in Alaska and they
think very highly of S. Palin. FYI, people don't like her JUST because she is likeable. She's smart, courageous, well-grounded with good morals for starters. She doesn't flip-flop to appease the public (like Obama/now for drilling), and she is NOT self-serving (gave up her plane, personal chef, etc etc that came with the job). She is and has been SERVING THE PEOPLE, not playing politics; McCain has the same history, and together they ARE the party of change. p.s. when was the last time Obama had any part in giving money BACK TO THE PEOPLE like Palin did in Alaska? Look at the facts. You have 2 track records of standing up for the people on the McCain/Palin ticket and pretty talk along with old party politics on the Obama/Biden side. It really scares me to think of Obama winning, with his demonstrated lack of judgment and lack of record, poor associations, etc. p.s., if there is a revolution/take-over of the USA it could only be under Obama. notice too, that now his future position in the white house is challenged, he keeps changing his tune to sound more middle-ground. He's a wolf in sheep's clothing; beware.
I'd want the money but not from that family. sm
The poor have more morals and principles. They make most of their money off of misery, lies, deceit, and thievery. They fund both sides of war conflicts and founded the central banking system, which is robbing everyone blind. She met her husband at a Bilderberg conference.
She did support Hillary and then endorsed McCain, but said she did not trust him because he came off like too much of an elitist. Bizarre statement from someone who is a member of a family who possesses more than half the world's wealth since the early 1900s.
Sounds to me as if you or your family
would never vote for him anyway. I am from a small town in PA, born, bred and live in a small town, and I and my DH have no qualms with any of the so-called elitist statement, and as I said before, as I see it and hear it, he is right! Some people are just too stupid or too bigoted to vote for their best interests, period, and that is the truth. It is incredible to come through 8 years of the worst government this nation has ever seen, in the middle of a financial crisis that is being compared to the Great Depression, to vote for and give those people at least 4 more years that have brought this country to its knees, in one war that was unnecessary, that cast aside the constitution, torture, and all the other horrendous wrongdoings of the Bush administration, to allow race or a few misspoken words stop from electing a good man, an intelligent man, well, that is just stupidity or bigotry any way you slice it. BTW, I am a 54-year-old white woman.... And I know there are more out there just like me who will vote for this man.. Be he elitist or be he a black radical or whatever slur you would throw at him, I will bet that he will be our next president, and Good Lord I hope so!! As I read through your writings here, seems to me you have not even stopped to think about how much this man has gone through to get where he is...as a black man, it could not have been easy for him, but he did, and he is, and I say more power to him. All you can do is slur and impune him, give him no benefit of the doubt, or even think through what another 4 years of Republican rule will do to our country or your own quality of life. You like to repeat the things they say on rightwing radio/TV, which are hateful and downright mean, and you have to be of a certain mindset to even listen to it. I listen to Limbaugh, I watch Faux News, but I can't do so for very long because to me they are nothing but evil. If you want to get religious, they are not very Christian-like, not if Christian means followers of Christ. All I hear from them is a lot of liese, hate and hypocrisy.
I feel for that family as well
that her daughter will be blessed with something wonderful that will keep her strong and make her fight and not be defeated.
the point i was attempting to make is there are soooo many people who abuse it.... government help; yet there are people who actually NEED the help just to get them back on their feet and are turned down; i'm curious how many $$$$ are actually spent in a year for food stamps, welfare, government subsidized housing, etc.
trust me when i tell you we are feeling the pinch ourselves but we are trying to cut back on extras. we actually even have a plan that should worse come to worse, my immediate family would go live with my sister and her family... that would be if things hit rock bottom but even if that were to happen, i know we will be fine.
i wonder if obama starts getting all these government programs going, how soon it will be before it's all tapped out and no one will have any sort of assistance.
Did anyone notice that the one family...sm
they had on there that were all overweight, and complaining about not enough money for snacks? Also, notice the mother had acrylic nails on....know how much those cost? Could buy a lot of milk and food that they say they couldn't afford.
A lot of inconsistencies in that infomercial....
It's mostly Bobby's family
Teddy pays his bills. Who cares what Joe K did anyway? He's been dead a long time. Just goes to show some people on this board will argue about anything.
I pray for his family as well.
How sad that she could not have lived to see her grandson elected president if that happens.
I agree with you and so does most of family.
by picking O and I have been running into a lot more people including strangers who also agree. No more freedom and some of the elderly seem to think our country is going to turn out like Germany years ago. I guess this is what the young people want.
There sure are a lot of people stocking up and buying ammunition too. Afraid guns will be gone and cannot buy anymore. Others believe to stock up on guns to use for barter exchanges down the road. That is what some Americans are seeing how our FREEDOM country will turn out down in the future. You can do A LOT OF DAMAGE in 4 years to this country. Just kissed good-bye to the ole USA as of late Nov. 4, 2008. I WANT MY COUNTRY BACK, DANG IT.
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