Homosexuality was never allowed in ancient times
Posted By: * on 2009-05-28
In Reply to: Here we go again...(sm) - Just the big bad
and it did not become a sin because the christians said it is a sin. It's written in the Bible and this I believe, because it is 'detestable', it is so written in the Bible:
' Below are some Bible verses that condemn homosexuality:
Leviticus 18:22 - You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination.
Leviticus 20:13 - If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death.....'
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Ancient history
I dont care about ancient history. I care about right now in America. The fact is, the American people have spoken and they have stated with their vote that the Republican controlled congress was not working to their satisfaction or benefit and Bush's ideological based administration was heading American down the wrong track. I know it must be making many conservatives quite upset but majority rules in America, that is what democracy is, government by the majority of the people. So, accept it and move on. Democrats had to for the last 12 years and it was quite a hard pill to swallow at times. Finally, America will be on the right track and maybe we will be able to rebuild positive relations with the world and get out of Iraq before many more of our heroic soldiers are slaughtered for nothing but a bunch of lies.
How do you think ancient people
fed their family? WIth tofu? Besides, do you eat burgers, chicken, or bacon? Hunting is more than a sport. In my neck of the woods, it is tradition and heritage. We respect the game laws and hunt with ethical behavior. We enjoy as much of the meat as possible. Would you rather have Bambi overpopulate and cause someone to be killed in a car accident? It happens where I live all of the time. A guy I grew up with was coming home one night, hit a moose and died. His young kids are orphans now.
Not just ancient people
did you ever watch the show Bizarre Foods with Andrew Zimmern? He travels around the world and eats the strangest food. No part of animal is wasted. He eats eyes, testicles, feet. It is gross but fascinating.
If you believe in what many ancient cultures . . .
predict, this planet only has a little over 4 more years left, so it won't really matter too much who is elected. Anyone else heard of the Mayan calendar? Or the 4,000-year-old Chinese calendar? Google 12/21/2012. This has nothing to do with Revelations. This has to do with a very predictable astrological event that is going to happen. Just something to ponder . . .
You read ancient Greek? That is
Can you read Aramaic and Ancient Hebrew too? I always wanted to learn. Maybe some day I will have the time.
No I'm not and I know homosexuality
is not a religion. All I'm saying is that religion has become so controversial with more and more people who refuse God's teachings and do not want their kids exposed to it that God has been taken out of the schools. Well, homosexuality is just as controversial and not everyone accepts this lifestyle and certainly those who don't accept it do not want their children taught in school that homosexuality is okay. It is my job as a parent to talk to my child about this and teach tolerance but not acceptance and for the school to undermine my authority and teach acceptance of homosexuality, especially to children as young as 5, is just as bad as the school preaching about God to children when atheists don't want their kids hearing about God. They are both two very controversial subjects that should not be taught at school.
Hardly ancient history and your response doesn't fly
You're the one who brought up the "leadership expectations" You opened that can of worms.
McCain ancient history? Isn't that convenient?
Let's try this one more time. During the heat of the primaries, McCain dared Obama the rookie to go abroad, so confident that he would fall on his face and pale in comparison to the image of the more seasoned and experienced aging POW. The ulterior motive was to make hay while the sun shines in Obama's absence and do some stunning campaign trailblazing.
Obliging Obama took the dare and became a sensational global superstar as I so eloquently described in my other post and is now legendary. John McCain was left with egg all over his face. End of story.
I'm kinda of glad he did not show his true colors until after his defeat. That John McCain could have given Obama a real run for his money but alas, he took the Rovian path down the tubes. Oh well, better luck next time.
I find homosexuality
offensive. I do not deny that. I do not impose my beliefs on anyone. You may do as you choose. The homosexual community is trying to impose their way of thinking on the rest of the world. Have you been sleeping? I do not need your link about Sodom and Gomorrah. Lack of hospitality... What a hoot..
I believe homosexuality is wrong but for sm
goodness sake, I don't think the homosexuals are all by themselves responsible for someone stopping Bible study in a home.
I will tell you what has taken away our freedoms and that is, we as Christians, who have sat on our butts for too long and let our rights be taken away! We have not been proactive enough.
Geeze next you will be saying the illegals caused some idi** to want to stop Bible study in the home.
Again I think the lifestyle is wrong and a sin against God, Christianity and the Bible, but you are little paranoid don't you think?
Homosexuality is a sickness of the mind.
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So now you're likening homosexuality..(sm)
to smoking dope and murder? What planet are you from?
So now you're likening homosexuality to ...(sm)
a crime. Beyond the obvious lunacy of your ideas, there is the fact that gays and lesbians are NOT treated equal by just putting them in a corner. They deserve the same rights as everyone else.
How about if we say that you can be a christian, but your religion willl not be recognized unless you live in a certain area? You cannot demonstrate your faith in any manner because children might see you and get the wrong impression. You can live with other christians, but you will not be afforded the same rights afforded to other communities. Does this sound fair to you?
Homosexuality is not about historicial facts...... sm
it is about theological facts. So that makes the Bible a relevant source since it is the gold standard for theology.
Seeing as homosexuality is not a religion - see message
It SHOULD be taught in schools as an accepted lifestyle. They teach sex education in school, safe sex, etc, why wouldn't they teach about homosexuality? Maybe if it was taught earlier on we wouldn't have so many hate crimes against the gay and lesbian people.
Christianity, Mormonism, Lutherans, Catholicism, Buddism, etc are all religions and DO NOT belong in the schools. That is why there are churches. Unless you send your child to a religious school there is no reason for religion to be taught in schools.
Christians (not all) do force their beliefs on non-believers. In the community I just moved from my aunt and uncle were huge church goers (aunt is secretary, uncle creates a flyer). They have bible studies at different peoples home two and three times a week. In those bible studies they say some prayers, and then they get out their map of the city to discuss who is going to work what area to knock on doors, and be in the stores to approach unsuspecting people who are not in the church and "push" their religion onto them. When we first moved to the community we were approached by a lady from their church, who approached us with questions about our beliefs. When we told her we prefer to keep our religious viewpoints to ourselves, she then stood and proceeded to tell us her faith was the right path to follow and she is doing the work of the Lord, blah, blah, blah. We kept trying to get away and not be rude, but she was holding our hands and proceeded to tell us if we didn't believe we were sinners and would blah, blah, blah (think you get the message). After she was through with us she then proceeded to corner some other "poor souls" and do the same thing to them. When we had someone come out to hook up our cable, he happened to be from their church and began to preach to us. Their whole purpose they said in their church service was to get everyone in the community to join their church and use whatever means they had to do it. I've listened to talk shows where the guest said his mission is to make everyone in American a "christian", and destroy the non-believers and other religions because their religion is the "wrong path to follow". So don't tell me they don't push their viewpoint on us and down our throat. Maybe you don't but a lot of others do.
Plenty of non-religious folks that believe homosexuality
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It is not too much to ask to be allowed
on the politics board. The moderators have some in from time to time to remind us of the lay of the forums. Religion has its very own forum. Please use it when appropriate and respect the rest of us who simply want you to GIVE IT A REST.
Exactly, how else were millions allowed to die...sm
And genocide is not something of the past. Darfur is the here and now, but we are not effected economically (i.e., oil), so we go on our merry little way.
I have to agree also....he should not be allowed (sm)
to make a dime and Fox should not facilitate him. No one should. It would be nice if no one bought the book and no one watched....but we all know they will and they will. All I can really speak for is myself...I certainly won't be buying or watching.
And that's your opinion. We are all allowed to have one.
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So it shouldn't be allowed
because everyone might suddenly become gay and there would be no offspring? How about artificial insemination? This is a new one on me!
New VP candidate allowed to appear
for 30 seconds - no talking - for news cameras with world leaders. Now, let's hear you say she doesn't have any foreign experience -- here look at this picture.
If we are not allowed to express
political viewpoints.....what is the point of a political board?
I have know idea to what post you are referring to that you posted and was removed. You would have to take that up with the moderator.
I am proud that RW is being allowed to
been convicted and knows in HIS heart to be right without fear. I hope there has been no compromise or deal in the background made and I do not believe RW is of this character. I am afraid that you are right, the people who elected Obama will not be listening to what RW will have to say because they do not know who he will be talking to. I know this is just something for you and a lot of others to just laugh off, but one of the saddest days of this election was the day the Billy Graham Ministry resigned as as pastor/counselor to the the president since serving in that capacity since Eisenhower. They resigned just a few days after Nov 4.
Excuse me? So it's only allowed to say bad things
The first person stated republicans are strange. The first person could hardly know every republican in the USA and her statement was inflammatory. The second person returned the observation, and you say "typical," as though you know who posted it and what is typical behavior of that person? Tsk. You disappoint me, oldtimer. Here I thought perhaps you'd be a voice of reason. First you say stop petty attacks and then you stoop to flinging yourself. Talk about lack of credibility. You're either with them or against them. Did you decide if you can't beat 'em, join 'em?
Citizens are allowed to vote
with any motivation they wish - FOR someone, AGAINST someone, because they had soup for lunch, etc. Supreme Court (hey there's a case someone can discuss) upheld same-day registration and voting. Since they know the constitution and the law, I will trust their judgment.
The election system is OBVIOUSLY sound, because when Ohioans suggested that the Bush reelection count was rigged, they were denounced as conspiracy theorists. One cannot have it both ways.
A Christian is not allowed to comment on Israel? nm
Have we made new rules? I didn't know that! When did that happen! By the way, sm is exactly right. Ariel Sharon has made a mistake that will doom Israel. This is a man who wept on television with fury when saying he would never give up an inch of land and then handed the Gaza strip away. If you have been following this story for some time, decades, as I have, then you know what a tragedy this is. One does not have to be Jewish to understand it. In fact, if you understand the Biblical significance, you get the picture. And, of course, Sharon was wrong, as Hamas now wants Jerusalem.
They already ARE allowed to stay silent. That's the irony of this.
It's just one crazy loon who wants to foist HIS version of the world on the rest of us, which is no better than ramming religion down a person's throat. What about those who wish to say the pledge, now they can't. It was better the way it was... Say it if you want, don't say it if you don't want to. That way everybody has the freedom to choose.
And I want to know why the bin Ladens were allowed to leave the country...sm
The day after the attacks???
The trick is, truffle....you are allowed unlimited...
posts, along as you support the party line. But if you deviate...katy bar the door! They are so tolerant, these dems. They believe in individual freedoms...and shame if the government infringes on them!! But if THEY want to infringe on them...then that is AAAAA-OKKKK. The Audacity of Deception and Hypocrisy...lol.
I never said citizens weren't allowed to vote.
I just do not think that same day register and voting should be allowed. That is my personal opinion and I have the right to have that opinion regardless on how a court ruled on the subject.
Spelling police not allowed on this board.
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Not allowed. Pubs haven't learned
LOL
I agree, isn't he even allowed to make some jokes.
because is the President-Elect?
Duh?
Guess he wasn't allowed to use the DOD planes
unlike some others... =)
I wonder if he'll be allowed to take the famous brush!!
It wasn't legal, it was unlawfully allowed; thus, the
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yes, seoparated is still married, no flings allowed...nm
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Because so far I'm still allowed to express my honest opinion. He hasn't taken that away from us
yet.
Those are his words, and what is scary is that I think he believes it. It's bad enough we've got enemies who believe they're in a religious war. With each passing day, I'm starting to think HE believes he's in one, too. If that's the case, we're in more trouble than anyone could have thought.
My post was about HIM, not about you. But it isn't the first time a Bush groupie has PERSONALLY attacked a poster for expressing their opinion about BUSH. Now, how do you think that makes YOU look? Maybe it's YOU who should grow up or at least WAKE up and see what he's doing, not just to us but to the entire WORLD.
As long as we all still have freedom of expression, I'll continue to express my views, whether you like them or not.
And I hope you keep posting. Nobody can prove my point for me like a Bush groupie, and I do appreciate the help!!
As long as the posting is not personal, they are allowed to post here. sm
If you have a problem with that, that is your problem. I have been watching these boards closely. I have seen some posts come pretty close to personal insults, but as long as they don't, and the Administrator's rules, which were posted earlier, are not broken, cross-posting is allowed.
I thought lewd pornographic content is not allowed here...nm
So your in favor of a creep who tazered a child to be allowed
She put a stop to this creep being able to abuse his position as a cop who tazered a 10-year old child and put fear into a family with death threats.
She had the proper and legal authority to fire him. She should have also fired the person who didn't fire him.
If you think its okay to let thugs run around the streets in cop uniforms yielding badges and guns tazering children and threatening death to people your a real piece of work.
I guess we are allowed to call names so YOU ARE a FOOL nm
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I rest my case. Obviously this person does not understand that in America we are allowed to have our
.
Cindy Sheehan not allowed to watch SOU address, was arrested.
Curiously, CNN reported that Cindy had UNFURLED A BANNER INSIDE THE CHAMBER WHICH IS AGAINST THE STATE OF THE UNION ADDRESS RULES.
Half an hour later we learn that no such thing happened. Cindy simply wore a T-shirt with an antiwar message on it and was promptly hauled off to jail.
In Bushworld, you can not only be arrested and hauled off to jail for wearing a controversial T-shirt, but the major media will also make up ridiculous lies about you and broadcast them world-wide. That's some performance for a liberal press. But oh ho ho, we were all being so paranoid four years ago to claim that the press was a willing servant of deliberate Rovian disinformation spinmeisters. Once again, we are right on the mark and the Repubs? - blind and wrong and misdirected as usual - let us count the many things about which the progressive thinking people of this nation have been absolutely correct, and the Bush supporters oh so regrettably wrong. Wow, it would take pages and pages!
Can't tell them anything though - they can't admit it when they are wrong. The way things are going, they're going to deny us right into the communist USSR of 1965 - the state our teachers used to scare us about in 1965 - and we would think, oh, how awful to live in a place where the government controls all the media, where protestors are thrown in jail, where you have to be worried about speaking above a whisper if you criticize the government, because your own neighbor will turn you in! Oh those poor people, having their mail opened and never being able to see any real news, only what the govt. wants them to see!
But of course that was back in the days when dissent was patriotic, when Americans didn't spy on each other, when the govt. could not throw you in jail without a trial, when even Presidents had to resign if they wiretapped you without a warrant. You know, the OLD America, when nobody was above the law and citizens were shocked when the lies and deceit and self-serving greed of elected officials was exposed, instead of sniggering and giggling behind their hands about how bold their guys are, and ain't it grand they're still in charge.
Gee, I really miss it - was good while it lasted, and something to tell the grandkids about.
Debate is allowed on the political forums. Be respectful in your posts. If you
cannot post in kind, DON'T POST.
LA times
Everyone knows the L.A. Times is a liberal rag.
How many times?
Really is irrelevant. This woman is being used as a shill for a Marxist/Leninist organization called ANSWER, which has anything but America's interests at heart.
100 times????????
Okay, so when caught lying just spin an even bigger lie.
This is really getting out of hand on this board. All you CONS do is lie. This is crazy.
Okay, so please cite the 100 times I have accused someone of lying. This is your chance to squash us libs once and for all. I am waiting.
Maybe 300 times? nm
How many times have you said ANYthing?
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