Hmmmm.... so homosexuals AREN'T forcing their
Posted By: opinions on others? pleeeze!!! nm on 2009-05-28
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Homosexuals would naturally die out, because they aren't procreating.
Homosexuals would naturally die out, because they aren't procreating.
FLASH: Homosexuals may not be procreating but other people are. Where the hell do you think homosexuals come from?
Maybe all the homosexuals should do that.
x
Homosexuals are NOT being
accepted. Not from what I'm seeing. Homosexuals live in a fantasy land. If they believe it, then it must be true. LOL
Homosexuals have
the same rights as everyone else already. Christians are fighting against sin, not anyone's particular perceived rights.
But...........he created homosexuals, too.
X
m-eo-w . . no one forcing you
to stay on the sinking ship.
I never said anyone was. Is anyone forcing you? tsk
tsk, tsk. How UNAMERICAN!
I'm not forcing anything
It is impossible to "force" your faith on anyone. Because if it is forced than it is not genuine. But I don't sit here and call people names about it! I asked a serious question and none of you who don't believe have answered me. Which makes me wonder?
I know that not everyone in this world is going to believe in Jesus. That is heart wrenching to me. See you look at us from the outside, and all you see are "brainwashed cliques" but come inside and you will see people heartbroken for this world. You will see people fall down on their knees for those of you who have used the free will GOD has given you to turn away from him.
Yeah I get a little heated sometimes when people say RUDE things about my Savior. But that would be the same as me talking badly about one of your loved ones. You wouldn't just sit idly by and let me. Well it really upsets me to no end when people want to bash the person who died for me. And He did. And he's coming back. And those who deny Him are going to have a lot to answer for.
Faith is a gift from God for those who earnestly seek him. Without it you cannot even begin to comprehend Him.
He's not forcing anybody to do it -
He is offering a tax credit of $4000 for college if you do it. Wouldn't your children be the ones to benefit from that at the same time as the community?
There is no one forcing you to get an abortion. nm
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Nobody is forcing her or you to use those options -
That is what I don't understand. Why do you feel "forced" in any way because that option is available.
Cigarettes kill millions of people - do you feel like they are forced on you?
Alcohol kills millions of people in one way or another - do you complain that that is forced on you?
Drugs kill millions of people - do you feel that is forced on you?
You have the choice of educating your daughter and letting her know that you do not believe that is an option in your lives - nobody is forcing you to make that choice... it is just like the other things I mentioned above, they are available in this world, but they are not options for me and my family and they are not forced on me because they exist.
Nobody's forcing their values on you.
Nobody's making you to become gay. Nobody is forcing an abortion on you. Nobody is compelling you to join their church. Nobody insists you drive a Honda. I won't tell you what books to read. You can listen to any music you like. Nobody's requiring you to do anything, not even give your permission. If you think what you have is diminished by someone else having it as well, that's rather.... infantile.
I don't see anyone forcing you to open posts...?
did i miss something?
there is no one forcing you to get pregnant when u dont want to be.
nm
Wouldn't that be forcing YOUR view?
xx
Hypocrite! You talk about pro-lifers forcing their
beliefs on you, but you do the same to us. Sure, a woman can choose to murder her baby or not. The reality is abortion clinics are full of young girls --- NOT WOMEN! Young girls who didn't have sense enough to use a condom or get free BCPs from a clinic. Young girls who thought it made them women just to have sex with a guy. Young girls who are faced with a huge life altering decision and are nowhere near emotionally, chronologically or intellectually prepared to make it.
My daughter, when she becomes a teenager, has an option available to her that I do not want her to have. But you have forced your beliefs on me.
Hmmmm.....
your post sounds a lot like a description of Obama to me. If Obama does not have prepared questions and answers, he stutters a lot and says "um" "er" "you know" -- O'Reilly was canned last night, completely scripted. Try watching him without the script. Believe me, we've noticed.
....and really, your "leash" comment is really stooping a bit low, don't you think?
Hmmmm....
Found this on a blog:
Woodland
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This Hillary dem is voting for McCain because of this: “I join as a cosponsor of the Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005, S. 190, to underscore my support for quick passage of GSE regulatory reform legislation. If Congress does not act, American taxpayers will continue to be exposed to the enormous risk that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac pose to the housing market, the overall financial system, and the economy as a whole. I urge my colleagues to support swift action on this GSE reform legislation.”- John McCain 2005 Legislation failed. The failure of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac could have been averted IF Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005 had been passed. Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005 only had three co-sponsors : Elizabeth Dole, John McCain and John Sununu. For Nancy Pelosi blaming the GOP is downright an insult to ALL of US TAXPAYERS! http://beltwaysnark.com/2008/09/16/john-mccai... - oversee-fannie-and-freddiein-2 005/ http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd... Gee, and who did the now Government financed mortgage broker Fannie Mae give its money to when it wanted to influence a politician? OpenSecrets lists the top three politicians in which FNMA “invested” from 1989 to 2008. Top Recipients of Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac Campaign Contributions, 1989-2008Name Office State Party Grand Total Dodd, Christopher S CT D $165,400 Obama, Barack S IL D $126,349 ($6000 came from the PAC) Kerry, John S MA D $111,000 What about McCain? The folks at Fannie Mae didn’t show him a lot of love. According to Open Secrets: McCain, John S AZ R $21,550 (all from individuals). Oh yeah, and who tabbed the former head of Fannie Mae to head up his Vice Presidential search team? OBAMA, that’s who. Back in May Barack turned to Jim Johnson, former CEO of Fannie Mae. The Congressional democrats have ruined our economy. Bye, bye, dear party. I am moving to the fiscal conservatives. The social issues are not important to me at this time. |
Hmmmm.......... sm
and this is your business how? Seems to me as though you have little room to tell me to mind my own business, Shirley.
She asked the question and I answered it.
Hmmmm
Interesting, because he predicted in the early 80s that there would be low inflation and falling oil prices and there was (while Reagan was in office).
Those were bad things?
Hmmmm...
Barack Obama is doing something constructive for general public by being a community organizer. Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh are just blowing smoke up your butts. Sorry...there is no comparison!
Hmmmm....
The article says one thing, the caption under the picture says: Break from protocol: Michelle Obama puts her arm around the Queen, who reciprocates, as the pair chatted after a group picture of the G20 leaders was taken.
Michelle went first and the queen 'reciprocated.' (That being-gracioius thing again.) Fairly sure that's what I saw on the video, though now I cannot find the complete video on the internet anywhere, just bits and pieces of it.
Hmmmm......(sm)
When was the last time you saw me, any liberal, or any liberal media promoting violence?
Hmmmm......(sm)
Bush screws up the economy (or at least doesn't take any steps to fix it).
Obama works on fixing the economy.
Bush started 2 wars (one of which was/is bogus).
Obama is working to end those wars and bring peace to the region.
Bush had prisoners tortured.
Obama has stopped torture.
Bush talks to other countries in a threatening tone (remember the axis of evil?) and then doesn't have a clue why nobody likes us.
Obama talks to people like they are human beings and respects other cultures, and the results are astounding.
Bush talked about healthcare.
Obama will do something about healthcare.
Bush goes overseas and he's greeted with the sole of a Nike.
Obama goes overseas and is liked and respected.
Bush never held Israel to its agreement to stop settlements.
Obama has already noted that this will be enforced.
There are a few things like the patriot act and LGBT issues that haven't been dealt with yet, but I would say that overall Obama is the exact opposite of Bush. Keep in mind, as he has only been in office for 5 months, he still has at least 3 years and 7 months to go. A lot can happen in that period of time.
hmmmm....
Bush screws up the economy...
look again at Chris Dodd and Barney Frank, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. If you care about the truth. That is what screwed up the economy.
Obama is fixing the economy...? By tripling the debt in his first 5 months? How do you think he is going to recoup that? By just raising taxes on the rich. I know you are too smart to buy that.
Bush started 2 wars...geez, there is that chestnut. Congress started 2 wars. Bush by himself, as goofy as he was, cannot start wars by himself. Obama promised to start withdrawal from Iraq immediately. As soon as he was elected it became 16 months and they would LOOK at withdrawal. Now it is 23 months and they will look at withdrawal. Face it...he said it to get elected. And he as upped the ante in Afghanistan, and we have more troops there now than we did when Bush was in office. They are looking mighty similar to me. Bring peace to the region? That will never happen. Arabs cannot even get along among themselves. They have not been able to throughout history and whether we are there or not there will not be peace in that region. Come on. I know you are smarter than that. We are only over there because they brought the fight to us. Even Obama says we belong in Afghanistan because that is where bin Laden is (supposedly). Even HE thinks they brought the fight to us. Do you listen to what he says?
Bush had prisoners tortured. Matter of opinion. I don't call waterboarding torturing. It beats having your head cut off and waved in front of cameras. If waterboarding even one of those terrorists kept another attack from happening on our soil or anywhere else (and something sure did), then I say waterboard them. The effects are not lasting, it isn't permanent like having your head hacked off with a dull knife...sighhhh. And how do you know Obama stopped it? Because he said so? lol.
Bush talks to others in threatening tone and then wonders why no one likes us.
Well, you got me there. Bush did do that, Obama for SURE doesn't. I have to side with Bush on that one. I don't care if they LIKE me. I want them to think I might slap them silly if they attack my country. They are still going to buy our goods, come here for medical care (I do reports every day on kids from ALL the arab countries being brought to childrens hospitals here for care...that ain't gonna change), etc. Why is it so important to you that other countries "like" us? France has never liked us. The minute we liberated them in WWII they were yelling get out of our country. And these people are people you care if they "like" us?? Come onnnn big bad. I know you are smarter than that.
Bush never held Israel to its agreement to stop settlements. Hmmm. Has anyone ever held Hamas to its agreement not to slam Israel with rockets on a daily basis or send suicide bombers through the checkpoints? Oh, that doesn't count, because they are only killing Israelis?? Yes, I would expect Obama to side with Hamas. That is his heritage, or had you not noticed? As I said before...he doesn't give a rip what happens to Israel...as it seems, do you.
The patriot act? He voted to extend it as a senator. And now that he is Pres, that will change? And you believe it, because it said it? When he has gone back on the war, gone back on transparency...I know you are smarter than that.
Nope, Obama is NOT the exact opposite of Bush. He mimics him to a great extent. Probably because a lot of the same strings that pulled Bush pull him. ANd I know you are smart...so why not compile ALL the information and look at it objectively. DOn't look at what he SAYS, what he PROMISED...look at what he has DONE and what he HAS NOT done. The truth is there...if you want to see it.
I said the same things to folks about Bush by the way. There are only a handful of things I think Bush did right...and a whole lot of things I think he did wrong. I am still waiting for a right thing from Barry from Chicago.
Hmmmm.
I don't know why any of these things O has done is a surprise to anyone.... all anyone had to do was look at his history, his HUGE lack of experience, his VERY liberal way of looking at things, the Muslim country he was raised in (govt ruled), the harsh racist remarks he made in his book AGAINST white people, to see where he would take the country and exactly what his agenda would be.
He is a racist man for one thing. He is Muslim... he is someone's puppet and they knew it is why he suddenly appeared on the scene, money poured in from NOWHERE it seems, and waalah!!!! he is now our president. Strange isn't it? No executive skills or experience WHATSOEVER. He promised the moon, which anyone with half a brain knew was a sackful of ______(you can fill in the blank)!!! Sure he would LOVE to legalize marijuana; after all, he LOVES drugs and openly admitted to using drugs for YEARS!!! What a shocker there!
Guns...... well, he was raised in a country where guns were banned (only govt and their military dictatorship ran militia had guns)... NO SHOCKER THERE!
Smoking.... hmmmm.. HE is the one who wans to stop smoking; therefore, he has deemed it necessary for ALL MANKIND in the U.S. to stop smoking, simply because HE IS READY TO STOP SMOKING. Gee!! WHat a shocker! If he still wanted to smoke, believe me that tobacco would be the last thing on his mind to regulate and regulate to death!!
He promised no lobbylists.... he has SURROUNDED himself with lobbylists from day 1 ... what a liar!!!
No pork.... well, we all know what a lie that was...
Line by line...... what a joke!!
Anyone with half a brain knew they were NOT going to see tax cut... I don't call $25 extra in your check a taxcut by the way.... another LIE!!
That $250K or more will be the only affected by taxes....... HA!! Another lie! How in the he!! can ANYONE think all his social programs and free handouts to those who feel "entitled" NOT be paid for by you and me?! There aren't enough RICH in this country to pay for all those freebies. And secondly, only someone born being told that RICH is bad and govt is great actually feels that way...except for the lame followers he has suckered into his way of thinking.
RICH is not a bad word. How many poor people do you know who employ anyone? I don't! I'm glad there are rich people out there and most ALL of them have actually worked their way to their status. What the heck is wrong with hard work and making lots of money... the only people who think it is wrong are those that actually believe they will never be rich, so heaven forbid anyone else is....
Your freedoms are being QUICKLY taken away with Obama.... he says one thing and does another, so for all those that try preaching what he said he wouldn't do, please save your fingers protesting.... he is a liar! plain and simple...
He will not save you from yourself. Heaven knows we need a crook to save us. His wife is very questionably a crook; just take a look at her $317 THOUSAND dollar job at the charity hospital in Chicago, where she committed deeds that would have gotten anyone else ARRESTED and criminal charges brought against. But, with litlte 'ol hubby being in the senate, they quietly brushed that criminal activity under the table and just done away with her position. Poor little Obamas! BTW, for those that didn't bother to hear the facts about this family, SHE was the one pushing to dump poor patients (mostly blacks) out the door of the hospital and into surrounding hospitals, all the while taking MILLIONS of taxpayer dollars from the govt for charity patients, which she was fraudently using....
Not to mention being "mentored" by Rev Wright and his hate speeches, racist speeches....whatever you wanna call them!
Murdering late term babies.... he's all for it and even said he would like to think if his daughters found themselves in that situation that they would have "options" available to them. What the heck does that tell you about what he thinks about morals and human life?
Not only is it business as usual in Washington, it is a free for all bananza of crooks and thieves and "special interest groups" unlike anything this country has ever seen before. Don't get me wrong, Obama is just the puppet, someone else pulls his strings.... but the real powers that be knew he would be the perfect little puppet to pull the masses of lame brains in so they could try to get away with their agenda...
Ah, there's that factcheck.....hmmmm
Don't forget that factcheck.org is part of the Annenberg School at the University of Pennsylvania and is funded by the Annenberg Foundation that employed Obama in Chicago.
Strange bed fellas, aren't they?
Hmmmm....well, if that's the case........
he should butt out of N. Korea and China and the "Asian" countries shouldn't he? N. Korea is threatening with attacks "if" we interefere but that hasn't stopped Obama from speaking his peace about what he thinks they "should" do.
Same for Iran. He can help support the 70% population in the streets by simply saying he supports they attempt to be heard and listened to by their govt!!
'Mind your own business' hasn't kept Obama quiet about N. Korea or China....
Iran has nuclear weaponery as well!!
This is nothing more than him not wanting to speak out against his Muslin brothers.... plain and simple.. and you have to ask yourself why. Why is he willing to be so quiet about this when he has no problem yammering on about Asian countries. Yea, let's all just pretend we don't get it.
What that does tell me is Obama has NO problem with oppression of those folks over there... after all, he is attempting to do the same thing here and if we don't get him out next election, he will have taken this country down a horrible path, if he doesn't railroad those same efforts in here beforehand.
Don't care if you agree or not. The very fact that he has orchestrated his little govt in the private sector BIG TIME and is now trying to do the same with healthcare speaks volumes for those who are not sucked in by the O fest that many are now shaking their heads, crawling out of their little brainwashed brains, and wondering what the he!! were they thinking when they voted for this guy!!
So Christians aren't supposed to political? Or we aren't supposed to let our morality, faith
our conscience guide us politically?
I'm sorry, that is a separation I cannot make. My faith and religious convictions are part of the whole person that I am. I vote my conscience. I want political leaders who reflect my morality. I also happen to believe there are many Christians out there like me. There is no "separation" of church and state for me, which by the way was a concept (nowhere specifically mentioned in the constitution) meant to protect the church from the government more so than the government from the church.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with that commercial. There are condom commercials, "personal" lubricant commercials, and penis and sexual performance enhancing commercials -- why would anyone be offended by a pro-life commercial? The fact that anyone would be offended is a testament to just how twisted society has become!
hmmmm....four against one....sure feels like a gang to me....lol
I really don't care to engage in dialogue with four or five people on this board whose only goal at the moment is to ridicule Sarah Palin, in every context imaginable. And not to mention, the current conservative poster on the board, which at the moment happens to be me.
So bye all....I know I've been civil and polite to everyone here.
Can you say the same?
And by the way....Sarah Palin is worth her weight in gold. Can't change my mind, no matter how much you trash her.
Carry on.....
hmmmm, funny, maybe it is too long
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/09/24/eveningnews/main4476173.shtml
Not sure why the entire link does not come up, but at the end it should be /main4476173.shtml
Hmmmm, pure dung? Definitely an
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HMMMM...over 16,000 signed petition
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Hmmmm, preparing for the economic challenges AHEAD...
DHL said it was making the cuts to improve profitability and "to prepare the company for the economic challenges ahead."
The company said this latest action would add $1.9 billion to its restructuring costs, for a total of $3.8 billion over two years, most of it during 2008. The company said the cuts would reduce the annual operating costs of DHL U.S. Express to less than $1 billion, from its current cost of $5.4 billion.
DHL is owned by the German company Deutsche Post World Net.
Hmmmm, I didn't realize war veterans fell into
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Probably because there aren't
nearly as many of them. And I noticed the tally keeper yesterday was only tallying those posts she wanted to count. Sound like politics?
As for rabid, thanks for the enlightenment but the definition I prefer is 1 a: extremely violent : furious b: going to extreme lengths in expressing or pursuing a feeling, interest, or opinion <rabid editorials> <a rabid supporter>
CERTAINLY NOT:
2: affected with rabies
Well, though, I would hope none of the "rabid" Republicans (or Democrats) are "affected with rabies" but hey, maybe that's something to ponder. After all, rabies does affect the brain. LOL
aren't
YOU special . . .
They aren't done yet. This is just day 1 of
cutting the pork. Let's wait and see what they will do by Friday.
My calculator doesn't go that high for adding up the pork they want to cut, but I think it's more than 2%.
I will take a wait-and-see attitude with my finger on the "favorites" key to renounce them if they don't cut all the pork out.
no, they aren't.
I hate this discussion. Do you actually know any gay people? I doubt it or you would not think that way. Most people, regardless of their sexual orientation, are just trying to go about their business and live their own lives. There are always people making a big issue of something or another, whether gay or straight, and the gay population does not do so anymore than any other group. As is always the case, only those making an issue get the attention thus painting a whole population. If everyone would just keep their nose out of everyone else's business we would all be better off. Truly, another person's lifestyle is no one else's business unless it infringes on the rights of others.
Since we obviously aren't going to be able to have..(sm)
any meaningful conversation today, how about this? Keep in mind he was one of the main ones going after Clinton for having an affair. Hmmmm....
Top Republican resigns leadership post over affair
1 hour ago
WASHINGTON (AFP) — Republican US Senator John Ensign has resigned his Senate leadership post one day after admitting to an extra-marital affair, the chamber's top Republican said in a statement Wednesday.
"He's accepted responsibility for his actions and apologized to his family and constituents. He offered, and I accepted, his resignation as chairman of the Policy Committee," said Republican Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell.
The post is the fourth-ranking leadership position among Senate Republicans.
Ensign, a rising star of the Republican Party regarded as a possible contender in the 2012 presidential election, admitted to the affair at a news conference Tuesday in his home state of Nevada.
Ensign, 51, a staunch conservative with a record of strong family-values stances, vowed to remain in office after describing the affair as "absolutely the worst thing I've ever done in my life."
Nope we aren't
you can believe that but it just ain't so...
You aren't serious, surely. SM
This is the man who told the biggest lie of all time, i.e., the lie that launched the Vietnam War. HIs presidency was filled with graft and collusion. You can't be serious!
We aren't going to be THAT lucky.
Ignorance is, for whatever reason, simply not knowing something.
Like not knowing how the Downing Street memos have made your leader out to be a liar.
Like not knowing the history of our relationship to Iraq so you can make a coherent judgment about what is going on there now, and why.
Like not knowing that Bush tax cuts and budget deficits are strangling and endangering the country even worse than Reagan had a chance to do.
You know, stuff like that. Now there is plain and simple ignorance, where people just aren't exposed to the facts and so just don't know about them. Then there is also totally willful ignorance where people have every opportunity to see and understand the facts but simply refuse to do so. That's real ignorance of the kind you were probably referring to.
Going under fast, aren't they.
Starting to sound a mite peeved:) Look, person - we KNOW some people support this screw-up of a profiteering war. Like you. What don't you get about that? WE KNOW.
Now, tell us YOU KNOW that just as many - to judge by the 300,000 versus the 300, ONE HUNDRED times as many DO NOT support this mess any longer.
Why do you seem to feel that people who agree with you are somehow PROOF that yours is the only way to think? What are you going to do about the REST of those who do not believe what you do? What are you going to do when soldiers are speaking 100,000 to 1 against the war? You better think about it, because it's shaping up that way.
But you're asking for it, aren't you?
How many other boards do you go on and play devil's advocate? Do you go on the Christianity board and give the atheist's point of view? Do you go in the smoker's sections and preach quitting? Do you go to bars and brag that you're a teetotaler? How popular do you expect to be when you go to where people are happily doing their thing and start messing with them? You're mainly here to make trouble, IMHO. So when some of it comes back on you, stop whining!
Aren't you the one who WANTS states
I don't mean for that to sound rude, just an honest question. I seem to remember you saying you wanted more power to go to individual states, so do you agree with the states having control in this case? I appreciate the information and will check it out. I already know my state's income eligibility requirements and will post them below if anyone is curious. I found them at mt.gov.
For Montana:
2007 CHIP Income Chart
Effective July 1, 2007
*Annual Adjusted Gross Income (before taxes) |
Household Size
(Children and Adults) |
Household Income |
Family of 2 |
$23,958 |
Family of 3 |
$30,048 |
Family of 4 |
$36,138 |
Family of 5 |
$42,228 |
Family of 6 |
$48,318 |
Family of 7 |
$54,408 |
Family of 8 |
$60,498 |
Some employment-related and child care deductions apply.
These guidelines are effective July 1, 2007.
Income guidelines may increase in 2008.
* If a child qualifies for Medicaid, health insurance will be provided by Medicaid. |
Well aren't you just special then.
xx
Well, since she didn't and you aren't....
what is the point of this post other than looking down your nose and making moral judgments?
Your aren't running for VP and won't be
McCain camp made such as issue about Obama's lack of foreign travel, boasting about how many times he had been overseas to visit the troops, and claiming that made him a more viable foreign policy candidate. He openly challenged Obama to make his trip overseas, gleefully hoping that Obama would end up looking like a rookie. Obama responded in kind, met with world leaders, garnered open support from Iraq's president and turned out 250,000 Berliners for his speech. Not too shabby for a rookie. So, if there was so much flap over Obama's not having been overseas and how that made him inexperienced, what does it say about his VP pick, who applied for a passport last year? McCain can't have it both ways. This issue is being raised to point out McCain double standards.
You aren't too bright, are you?
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Are you sure you aren't talking about
Barrack Obama.....uh....and....uh...his....uh....ability...uh....to pause.....uh....because that....uh....teleprompter....uh....isn't telling...uh....him what to....uh....say. You cut SP down for issues that can be said of Barry Obama. The biggest difference is that Obama is running for president. SP is running for VP.
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