Hi, JTBB, I cannot access this link!.......nm
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just tried to access the link, and it said
sorry, video is no longer available. This seems to happen a lot when something goes against Obama and not for him.
here is a link for you JTBB, study it carefully
You think BUSH STARTED THIS WAR!!! all alone he did it all himself, that dirty b*stard! but wait, if he is so so so dumb like everyone protests he is... how did he pull one THAT BIG over everyone?? yes war sucks, but QUIT with that crap you always spew that it was all his fault
http://www.freedomagenda.com/iraq/wmd_quotes.html
You obviously have access to the internet...
What you should do is research for yourself instead of listening to the news readers. Their superiors very often have an agenda for their candidate, whoever that may be.
There's a lot of info out there, and a lot you have to sift through. But if you're truly looking for the truth, you'll figure it out if you do enough research.
I say this because we live in a unique time. We do have access to information like never before. It scares me to think that our media does not generally do what they are supposed to do and make clear distinctions so we can make clear decisions. They are supposed to be watchdogs, not report on nonsense tabloid issues.
I pray that we never have a government like they did under Stalin, and others. There was propaganda back then also, but there was no way for the people to know other than what they were told because the government controlled the media. And believe it or not, there are pols who want that kind of control today.
Sometimes the media does their job, but what we're told about a particular person/politician seems too incredible to be believed, but if we dig around, we can find out a lot and make a more informed decision regarding our country. The average person, years ago, didn't believe there were men who craved power so badly that they would destroy their own, but they did, and history bears that out. Current events in other countries also bears that out.
You know what they say, those who forget [or simply ignore] the past are destined/doomed to repeat it. I want our politicians, whether dem, rep, or indy, to learn from what has been done against this country, and I want them to put our interests first. Our interests being to do the job they are constitutionally required to do, and that is to provide defense, protect this country from those who would do us, or our allies, harm.
Yes, we need to come to the aid of those in this country who cannot provide for themselves, but it has gotten out of hand and mired down in wasteful bureaucracy and is not getting to those who actually need it.
My pet peeve, I don't want to hear how the world is against us. We've been there for everyone, and when we are for them, they certainly accept it, and then turn against us like a relative that only comes around when they want something. When we don't do for them, we're lambasted, but we cannot be everything to the world. We can only do so much. But we are blessed and we bless others, and rightly so.
But it seems to me that some want us to be puppets and/or sitting ducks. If I hear a politician say anything that remotely looks like they want us to be liked by the world, I look for someone else, because that should not be on the agenda. If they believe otherwise, I look until I know in whom to place my trust and my hard-earned vote. I really don't put much stake in whether or not we're liked. It's proof enough to me that they all want to come here, and most are willing to stand in line for that honor.
Note: I do believe we need good relations with other countries, but we need to do what's in the best interests for our own first. That should always be our top priority.
We do think it is special. Everyone has access to...sm
affordable healthcare. We have one of the highest minimum wage rates, quite exceptional since we are a very rural state, and great support taxwise for small business. Please don't come here, you would not fit in.
Not everyone has the same access to birth control. sm
I guess you didn't watch 20/20 this past Friday night? You can view it on their website. Go to http://abcnews.go.com/2020 and click on Watch: Babies in Memphis
I think everyone who is interested in this current thread would find it interesting, whatever your opinion on abortion is. It was called "Babyland" because that's what the locals call the cemetary where all the premature babies who die are buried if their mother can't afford to bury them.
It was about how the poverty-striken areas in Memphis, TN have much greater rates of premature births and deaths of babies than the more affleunt areas. Why? Lots of reasons, but probably the main one is lack of money, which means lack of prenatal care. No insurance and no easy access to a free or low-cost clinic. Lack of education. The girl they profiled was 18 and pregnant, and they showed another girl who had gotten pregnant at 12 yrs old, now a mother at 13. I mean, yeah, a 12 y/o shouldn't be having sex - she's still a child, but how in the world would she have access to birth control? She wouldn't.
It showed how the closest clinic is only open during the day (and only 1/2 day on Sat., to cut costs). No evening or weekend hours, so what are you supposed to do, take time off work, which you can't afford, to go get birth control (or prenatal care, etc.) which you also can't afford? I mean to you or me it may seem like a no-brainer - if nothing else go to the drugstore and get a box of condoms for $10.00, or the Today sponge thingie, but maybe they don't even have an extra $10.00 (or the time and $ to take 2 buses to get to the drugstore?).
All I'm saying is, the situation is different for everyone. I've personally never had an easy time with any method of birth control I've tried, and it's a bit of a wonder to me that I've never had an unplanned pregnancy because of that. Maybe because of that, I try to be less judgmental of others. Oops, more to say but I've got to go...
I doubt other networks were given access....(sm)
Fixed Noise would be the only one that would not report the 1600 seats that were empty. Tickets were free, BTW.
This is not rocket science. If Americans have access to
it creates a win/win situation for us all. If they open that plan to such a broad base, they would be able to essentially write their own ticket in terms of policy and coverage. As the plan stands now, it is perfectly acceptable, affordable and offers broad choice.
If McCain and his supporters want to wallow around in the politics of nay-saying, fear and hate, no problem. Go for it, but don't expecct Americans who are ready for change and are looking forward instead of backwards in terms of policy to buy into all hat negativity. That's the Bush world mentality and those days are numbered now down to less than 100.
post the link only, not the whole article and the link. See rules for posting.
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Hey jtbb.....here's one for you....sm
But you really can't find much on this subject, prolly cuz the powers that be don't want you to know, or else it isn't newsworthy to them, and thus it's hard to find the info. You know how that goes.
Fox News is middle of the road these days, not really far right, as most would have you believe. But they still report on subjects that most other far left news outlets ignore.
As for any of the bailouts, I was for the first one the way it was first presented as a three page document...however, it quickly became out of touch and out of hand....it no longer resembles(d) what it was originally for. All of them are worthless, throwing good money after bad, so to speak.
All they have done is pave the way for Obama to create bigger and bigger government, and take more freedoms away from all of us. Like his people have said recently....."we will let no good crisis go to waste"....they will use any and all to further their socialist causes....calling them by any other name, until everything is owned and run by the government. It's a sad day in America, and I hope we can hold out and hold on through the next stormy four years.
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2008480682_gm08.html
JTBB
I sure am glad to see you!! Seems this board is just about devoid of names anymore.
Hey JTBB & GP
Good to see you both. I may not always agree with your posts but I enjoy what people have to say (no matter how demented you all are - HA HA HA HA - just joking). I'm seeing a lot of sm (see message), and a lot of people finishing their thoughts in place of a name. Although JTBB I'm seeing more people agreeing with you than not on this board. Always good to get people's opinions. I'm always ready for a cat fight. HA HA
Well, now, JTBB...
...that wouldn't work out so well for him, either, because McCain wasn't born in the United States.
To JTBB
In every post you make sure to say something bashing a "pub." How do you know they are a pub?
Thank you, JTBB!
I'm not surprised at all by your compassion; nevertheless, your post almost brought me to tears, as well. I've always enjoyed reading your posts and admire your sense of humor and strength in dealing with some people on this board.
Thank you again for your post. It means a lot! 
JTBB would have said something very different
We know it and JTBB knows it.
JTBB is just another example of the liberals who dishonestly claim freedoms for themselves ONLY.
So let me paraphrase you, JTBB: "If you want to assert rights for yourself and groups that you like, you have to assert them for others and for groups that you don't happen to like."
Get it?
Thank you JTBB - I did not know that
I thought it was part of sex education class that taught about acceptance of that lifestyle. Funny how when you find out the truth it puts things in a different light.
Thanks for your post.
Hi, JTBB
Ahmedinejad won the election. This is not good. I bet it has to do with the fact that Netanyahu refuses to accept the 2-state solution. So the people decided to re-elect the hardliner and not the more moderate candidate, Iran being a supporter of the Palestinian cause. Or maybe manipulation was going on?
OMG, JTBB, I am almost always on your
side.
That you plant 'upside-down' tomatoes gave me a big chuckle. I guess that's not the only thing that is 'upside-down' with you!
You are hilarious and your posts are always exciting and thought provocing, never boring.
Keep up the good work!
JTBB
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JTBB.... it's has ALWAYS been about that with you!
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JTBB - I knew you'd try this
That is why I said that are many more websites than just what I listed. You can say all you want and try to reason that your viewpoints and your opinions are truthful while the others aren't, but in actuality they all are like Hitler. The actions of what Obama has done so far are like Hitler's whether you like to hear it or not.
Right on, JTBB. W's $40M makes O's $21M
Nice to have a balanced perspective.
Donn't you wish there were only one of JTBB.
you seem to be talking to her. What good people? I don't see her running down any GOOD people?
Hey JTBB my apologies to you too
Boy, talk about getting slapped into reality (more like smacked) by Just Curious.
After 10 seconds I turned Olberman off and looked for an article to read. Got the same message but without the painful anguished look on Olberman's face. HA HA.
You are right - I can't find this story in any of the conservative web pages.
Do I believe what we have in the office right now are neocons? Most and absolutely yes!!!! Do I believe what we have coming in is the Nazi regime. Most definitely yes!!! I don't know whether I like that or not because basically I do not see a difference. Only time will tell. I hope Obama will do a good job, I really really really do. This country is just in shambles. Am I worried - oh my gosh yes because of who he has been picking to fill his cabinet. Correct me if I'm wrong, because I may certainly be wrong, but I don't see him picking any conservatives in his cabinet, but yet when he was campaigning he was saying he was the only candidate who can bring the two sides together and he will choose both liberals and conservatives for his positions, yet I have yet to see any conservatives. I most certainly do not want more of the same, but I know there are a lot of conservatives who could do a good job, but to me I feel like he is just pushing them aside, which I feel is going to lead to such a division in the country. I still don't know what it is the Clinton have over him, but for him to pick her - oh my gosh!!!!!
I think I just take offense (even though I'm not conservative - I'm an independent with some conservative viewpoints and some liberal viewpoints) but I take offense when one side is called "the enemy" and people lump everyone into one group.
I do hope he does good. I hope he can get some jobs created and the economy back on track.
BRAVO, JTBB!
 You have echoed my thoughts, but much more eloquently!
I think she's JTBB in disguise.
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That's rich, JTBB....lol...nm
I disagree with you JTBB
So many economists have said this so-called stimulus will not work. All we can do is take a wait and see attitude and hope it will, but I have my doubts. After all, you and I and the many millions of taxpayers, plus our children, grandchildren and great-children will be paying for years to come.
O is already workintg on another stimulus plan if this one doesn't work. He has already "spent" more money in the few weeks he has been president than any other president in history. He is too close to FDR, who everyone now knows did not help, but hinder the American economy when he was president.
I had hope, but just watching the stock market fall into the abyss not seen in how many years, tells me they feel it will not work, either.
I just don't know where we are headed, but I'm very uncomfortable with what is going on lately. Every time they (Geithner, O, Gibbs) talk, the market falls. That's not a good sign. Geithner has no idea what's he's doing. O uses fear tactics all the time, and Gibbs certainly does not know what is going on.
So, I tend to disagree iwth you. I no longer have any hope that things will get better.
Even our governor thinks this will "fix everything." He's braggin our state is getting $6B. I looked it up. Our state is only getting half of that. Another frigging lie from a democratic governor.
So, sorry if I don't agree, but I don't. This country is going down to its ankles and unless they stop passing stimulus plans, it's the end (hubby's thoughts, which I tend to agree with).
Well, JTBB, I guess we know who . . . sm
all the violent rabblerousers are on here now, don't we? Maybe they all can secede to Alaska with SP.
JTBB you crack me up!
Do you do this all day long? You are always on here with this stuff. There is a whole life out there. Go live it and quit worrying that us horrible Republicans are going to get you. Your party won! You have Obama! Aren't you happy yet? Surely you have something else to do all day...don't you? Hannity and Keith get paid to do this. You don't dear, go find a hobby.
JTBB grow up!
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I am SO disappointed, JTBB
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We all know you are JTBB in disguise! nm
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OMG. JTBB, I'm starting to believe
you're a blind dem. The aboe poster stated his/her thoughts and most of them are true to form. If you don't belive in your country, you are not patriotic. Just because some of us don't believe O is going to do a good job is not a reason to call someone a loon.
I decided, after he was elected, to give him a chance, bvut all I can see is that he is digging us deeper in the hole. I though the bill passed the other day would help some people who were in deep trouble even though they did everything right, would get help...but, again, O is just helping the people who really didn't deserve help. I think you should wake up and start reading a bit more and/or listening a bit more to those who know what is really going on in this country.
A bit of advice... if you have any money in your bank over $100K, you best get it out of there. Although the FDIC is promising a guarantee up to $250K temporarily, the money will not be guaranteed if the country goes broke IMHO.
That's an understatement, JTBB!
You are trying to reason with the Wizard of Oz. There is no global warming in the Emerald City. It is much easier to ignore the man behind the curtain!
So, you think JTBB is rambling. sm
I would expect that comment from someone who either has their head in the sand or maybe it's just totally over your head by the very intelligence of it. I guess the fact that you don't understand intelligent "rambling", as you call it, pretty much says it all. Maybe JTBB should draw stick people to illustrate!
Trust me, what JTBB has to say is far
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Right on, JTBB!! I agree
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There you go again JTBB. As usual,
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Oh, JTBB. You NEVER let facts get in the
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You see, JTBB? Just one more case of . . . .
these people twisting rational words into irrational fears and accusations? Then again, they learned from the best -- Fox Noise. And you are absolutely right on one thing, too -- it's that way of thinking that is making their party obsolete -- thank GOD their umbrella is getting smaller and smaller!!!
Thanks for that JTBB, I missed that one . . . .
Love Colbert as well. It makes sense that the "cons' think he is just joking; this humor is way over their heads. After all, they've got that whole "delusional" thing perfected!! LOL
Come on JTBB, don't show everyone
how shallow and childish you are by stooping into the depths of the toilet with your name calling!! You can be more original than this!
No answers yet, eh, JTBB? That's what
Ah, poetry.
Are you speaking of Joy or JTBB?
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Do you know whom you are talkiing to? I am not JTBB
You are so superficial and uninformed to compare your facts of life, which are obviously overwhelming for you, having a job and raising children, with the tortures afflicted to prisoners, also innocent ones.
JTBB, read this......
Romans 1:26-27 - For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error.'
The downfall of them decadent Roman Empire....
I agree with both JTBB and cj.
Isn't there supposed to be a separation of church and state somewhere?
People can go to City Hall and get married without any church ceremony involved. More and more states now are coming to their senses and realizing that that ISN'T any of our business.
I wish them all well.
I believe what JTBB has is "intolerance"....now
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Hey, JTBB, here's something interesting . . .s/m
I feel sure that you, of all people, have probably seen this, but if you haven't, check out "Zeitgeist, The Movie". Go to "vodpod.com" and check this out when you have time -- it is a 2-hour movie explaining that great Christian hoax. Quite an eye-opener for me!!
Amen, JTBB!
Unbelievably small minds. He has done absolutely NOTHING to be impeached for. Now his predecessor, on the other hand.....
Holy Cow! No wonder everyone tries to shush us up when we mention Bush - it's too embarrassing for them. LOL!
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