Hey - they gotta pay off the dead people
Posted By: who voted them into office, doncha know?. on 2009-05-15
In Reply to: Feds paying $millions in stimulus checks - to DEAD people.
Those Dems - they're a laff riot a minute, aren't they?
Complete Discussion Below:  marks the location of current message within thread
The messages you are viewing
are archived/old.
To view latest messages and participate in discussions, select
the boards given in left menu
Other related messages found in our database
You gotta understand mentality of people
nm
Gotta question for gay rights people.
Okay...I've been reading a lot about states accepting same sex marriage. I personally am not in favor of it, but that is my personal opinion. This is my question though. If we all compromised and allowed civil unions between gay couples, would you be willing to leave the definition of marriage between a man and a woman? I know that no one is going to be entirely happy with any outcome, but I was just curious if a compromise could be made on this subject.
It's better off dead than dead AND rude and OBNOXIOUS.
Please respect the monitor's rules, even though you think they're stupid.
Well, I gotta see this. sm
I've been giving the TV a serious rest lately, just plain uninterested in the news lately. I'll check this out if I can catch it.
Thanks.
they gotta have something to say...
I was always told if you can't say something good, then just don't say anything at all...
looks like everybody was not raised that way!
Gotta wonder if you have always been
Did these things bother you AT LEAST AS MUCH as Chicago politics, to which so far Obama has not been directly or indirectly linked in any definitive way.
1) Torture. I think a little detail is in order here to help illustrate my point.
Forcing prisoners to crawl around on the floor while US soldiers rode them like donkeys.
Allowing poisonous snakes to inflict fatal bites on prisoners. In other words, premeditated murder in cold blood.
Stonings.
Shooting prisoners for minor misbehavior
Use of attack dogs.
Sexual abuse of a 16-year-old girl by two interrogators.
Sexual abuse of a 16-year-old son of an Iraqi general who was driven through the cold after he had been showered and who was smeared with mud in order to get his father to talk.
Forcing Moslem women to expose their breasts.
Forcing naked prisoners to have sex with each other.
Guards performing sodomy on boys while audio and video of the act was taped.
Urinating on detainees.
Stripping prisoners and threatening to rape them and their wives.
Blasphemy against Allah. Forcing Moslem prisoners to pray to Jesus.
Smearing feces on prisoners and forcing them to walk a straight line while their ankles were bound.
Severely beating prisoners while they were hooded and bound.
Videotaping and photographing male and female detainees, many times after arranging them in sexually explicit positions, other times forcing them to masturbate.
Keeping prisoners nakes for several days at a time.
Forcing male detainees to wear women's underwear, the ultimate humiliation to Moslem detainees.
Jumping up and down on a pile of naked detainees.
Placing a naked detainee on a MRE Box, with a sandbag on his head, and attaching wires to his fingers, toes, and penis to simulate electric torture.
Placing a dog chain around a prisoner's neck and posing him with a female officer.
Male guard raping female detainee.
Photographing smiling MP guards next to bodies of dead detainees.
Pouring phosphoric liquid on detainees.
Pouring cold water on naked detainees.
Beating detainess with a broom handle and a chair.
Threatening to rape.
2) Extraordinary redention.
3) Gitmo.
4) Dismissal of US atorneys scandal.
5) Valerie Plame.
6) The rest of the 169 PAGES of corruption and controversy links under the Bush Administration listed in Wikipedia.
You have a lot of nerve sending Emma T to the faith board after the countless times the Right-wing fringers abused this board for days and days at a time with their self-righteous indignations, all in the name of God and religion, when all she is tryig to do is express a little JOY, for God's sake.
Gotta wonder....
....what happens if millions of us default on our mortgates? Will the lenders foreclose on all of us? Foreclosure is a lengthy and expensive process, potentially ending in an eviction of you refuse to go quietly. What will they then do with all the houses and nobody to buy them? We all know how quickly vacant buildings deteriorate. Will we have suburban ghost towns?
Same with car payments. If we have mass defaults on car loans, how with the lenders handle all the repo's that will generate? What will they do with millions of repossessed cars?
What happens if millions of us can't pay our taxes? Doesn't have to be a formal tax strike. A lot of us who are ICs don't have taxes withheld. What if the self-employed cannot afford to send the quarterly payments? How many audits and prosecutions can the IRS handle? What will they do with those who are convicted of tax evasion? Will they have to let thousands of murderers and rapists out of the overcrowded prisons in order to put us in, to send a message? Will they be fighting with the banks over who gets first dibs on any assets left over after the house, the car and the big-screen TV are taken?
You've gotta be KIDDING ME!
"Vital interest": NOT.
"Whether or not the mission was clear": NOT.
Troops "well-equipped": DEFINITELY NOT!
"Whether or not there was an exit strategy" ABSOLUTELY NOT!!
"…take the use of force very seriously… guarded in my approach": NO FRIGGIN’ WAY!
AND FINALLY, THE MOTHER OF ALL "NOTS":
"I would be very careful about using our troops as nation builders."
I gotta agree with you here....
....I also want to see her in interviews.
Gov. Palin is the real deal. She's a natural. I bet she will handle herself with grace under fire, no script, no teleprompter, no uhs, ers, or you knows.
Can't wait.
Whatever, Sam. Know ya gotta have that last word,
!
Gotta deal
It is time for her to put on her big girl panties and face 'em head on. Politicians get bashed. They get bashed before they are elected and after they are elected. If she can't deal with them now, how the heck is she going to do it as the VP or possibly the Pres?
I think she can handle herself, but who knows if we will ever find out.
gotta love it
x
You gotta be kidding
@
They gotta vent their spleen somewhere! nm
I know. You gotta want to KNOW the truth to search for it. nm
nm
hey, I am a contributor too, but you gotta be kidding me
They do not need any more money to clean up the election cycle. They have a ton!
You gotta love the fact that he is actually one . . .
of the GOP "shining stars"!! They must be so proud!! 
Gotta love these! (The rest of you,
!["](http://imagec14.247realmedia.com/RealMedia/ads/Creatives/NewsMax/ThoseShirt_160_Mar09/Newsmax-Feb09-160x600.jpg/1237217108")
grow a humor gland. In many people, this is located next to the smart gland.)
Just gotta have the last word, dontcha?
.
Friday funny. Yall gotta see this one! (see pic)
Chris Matthews... gotta love him.
I actually know him. He's like that in real life, I promise you. I didn't see this particular interview, so I can't comment on it directly. But, when Chris thinks someone is trying to evade a question, he keeps at it. True, sometimes the poor interviewee is actually trying to answer the question but can't get a word in edgewise. We have the same problem when we're with him!
He's a commentator, not a journalist. There's a certain amount of entertainment factor to his show, and MSNBC knows it. Viewers either love him or hate him, agree with him or violently disagree with him. As long as he can pull in ratings, he'll be there. If he doesn't appeal, it's easy enough to just switch him off. There are plenty of times I just smile and shake my head, "Oh, Chris is at it again!" And just click him right off.
In the mainstream media? You gotta be kidding....
they would fall on their collective swords before printing anything derogatory....well maybe bury it on page 30. lol.
Gotta love these drive-by posts
I love when folks stop by here, post a quick blurb. Especially when they put in nothing to support it, and they expect everyone to take it as fact. I guess we are supposed to take everything posted as fact.
I've gotta put mine where it will grow without
xx
Party on....I gotta get my kids ready for bed....lol nm
x
I gotta wonder how long that "right of conscience..."
thing would last if someone refused to prescribe Viagra or Cialis or refuse to treat a "victim" in the ER who's had a "problem" for more than four hours (as advertised/warned on TV).
You just gotta love our political machine!
And we can't forget Sonny Bono!!
Gotta love those double standards, eh?
,
You gotta love them greedy politicians!
'No, no, it's the wrong thing for our country to take money from taxpayers like that!'
'But, if you're gonna do it anyway, I'll take some!'
Just confirms my belief that they should all be thrown out on their rears!
More lambs to the slaughter.....oh lordy, gotta have
nm
Dear I've just gotta, we're obviously...
...wasting our breath on these people. When journalists give one another awards for agreeing with each other, is that really the measure of journalistic integrity? Or just one hand washing the other? That a conservative journalist occasionally gets such an award is probably just to avoid the perception that the liberals are rigging the game.
Gotta love the reasoning of these pirates
'Killing our boys was aggression.' I guess you're just supposed to pay them the money and let them keep pirating. Nobody was ever supposed to fight back.
And, as they have threatened to 'deal harshly' with any US or French sailors they capture in the future, is there any reason why now we should not simply hunt down and blast each and every one of them out of the water? None that I can think of. I think they just declared war on us.
You gotta be pretty low in order to look up to these snake
X
Any problem with 300,000 dead due to another lie?
Clinton lie: Shameful, tsk tsk.
Bush/Rove lies: Massive death and destruction and maiming, depleted uranium poisoning of an entire nation and generations to come, collapse of the only secular nation in the region which is now heading for a fundamentalist Islamic regime. We could go on for pages.
Now come on, get real. How can you even compare the two? It's just absurd. And none of this ooh you can't PROVE he lied! The proof was provided by the Downing Street memos if you want hard copy, and thousands of other sources if you'd just open your eyes and look at/hear them and use some common sense. Just look at where this war has gone for all the proof you need.
Sheez almighty, after what this administration has done to America and the rest of the world, and there are still people harping about Clinton's dirty little lie that harmed no one and would never have even been a public event if not for the entire frame-up for which the Wrong Right was responsible in the first place. You don't think they have their own dirty little secrets? Please. Their vendetta wasn't righteous, it was the highest form of stinking hypocrisy the American public has ever had forced down their throats.
pssst....two more words....BASE CLOSINGS. Remember when gutting the military was the battle scream of the day? Oooh, you hated him for that! What a scoundrel, presiding over a few base closures during peacetime (on schedule with the plan REAGAN devised, and argued for by Cheney).Now they tell you in the midst of the largest round of base closings ever in the history of America - during wartime!!! - that it's streamlining. It's all good. Just part of the Wrong Right legacy of telling you when to be enraged and when to smile and nod.
wishing you dead? Me?
Sweetie, I dont want anyone dead and I mourn the dead in the gulf due to our governments inactivity..I dont wish you dead, I wish no one dead..I want us all to be happy and one as a nation and world..I want happiness, I want peace, I want contentment..However, if you attack me personally, I most certainly will stand my ground..because I am not a fool.
2000 dead: How many is
2000 Dead: How Many Is Too Many?
By Mike Hoffman
When I left for the Middle East in February 2003 with a Marine artillery unit, I was told Iraq was in possession of weapons of mass destruction, had been assisting Al Qaeda, was partly responsible for 9/11 and was an imminent threat to the United States and Iraq’s neighbors.
We destroyed Iraq’s under-equipped and demoralized military – the imminent threat to our nation -- in a little over a month. Since the invasion, no weapons inspection team has found evidence of any weapons of mass destruction and the claims that Saddam Hussein was working with Al Qaeda have been shown to be nonsense. When I left Iraq for home in May 2003, after President Bush told us “Mission Accomplished,” 139 Americans had died.
After the invasion was over and the occupation began, Iraqis didn’t throw flowers and candy at our feet. Instead roadside bombs and ambushes awaited us down every street. The administration said we were about to turn a corner. We were told that once Saddam and his sons were captured or killed the insurgents would give up, demoralized by the loss of their leader; peace would reign. By the time Saddam was captured in December 2003, 463 Americans had died in Iraq.
The capture of Saddam had no effect, and daily attacks against American forces and Iraqi security forces continued. It was during this time that the bloody Shiite Rebellion occurred. This was some of the fiercest fighting yet in Iraq. Even with this rebellion happening, we were told there was still hope. Sovereignty would soon be handed over to the Iraqis and another corner would be turned. But we needed to stay and provide the Iraqis security until we could “officially” turn the country back over to them. This would empower the Iraqis and end the Insurgency. By then, June 2004, 958 had come home in boxes.
Most Iraqis didn’t seem to care they had sovereignty, since we still occupied their country. They were still without electricity and faced an average unemployment rate of 70%. Every time US soldiers walked outside the wire they were still taking their lives in their hands. Then, we were told, elections would fix this. The Iraqis would have their own government in place and begin drafting a constitution. This would demoralize the terrorists and end the fighting. On the day of the elections, January 30, 2005, the U.S. death toll was 1,537.
What’s wrong with this picture?
The first time we were told the war was over we had lost 139 American; now we have lost 2,000 American lives in Iraq. Time and time again we are told things are getting better, that we have “turned a corner.”
In the Viet Nam War we didn’t “turn corners;” instead policy makers talked about the “light at the end of the tunnel.” We know now that by 1968 President Johnson knew there was no light at the end of the tunnel; he knew his war was lost. The Pentagon Papers showed this; Robert McNamara admits it today. Over 22,000 American troops died in Viet Nam after 1968 in a war our leaders knew was hopeless and just piling up American and Asian bodies.
Again, there is no light at the end of the tunnel, and we’ve turned so many corners we’re going in circles. Our leaders know they can’t win this war, but, like Johnson and McNamara, they refuse to admit it to the American people. Meanwhile, our troops remain a huge provocative force in the region and each individual soldier a prized target. Failure to face this reality is exacerbating the current chaos in Iraq and preventing real regional diplomatic solutions.
So the question falls to ordinary Americans: How many more brave men and women are we willing to sacrifice before we force our leaders to bring the troops home? I pray that it does not take another 56,000 like it did in Viet Nam.
Mike Hoffman was a lance corporal in a Marine artillery unit during the invasion of Iraq. He is a member of Iraq Veterans Against The War.
Fox is #1 among the BRAIN DEAD
LOL - studies have proven FOX viewers to be significantly LESS informed about current events than ANY of the other networks (though they are all back)...
FOX tells the brain-dead WHAT THEY WANT to hear -
THEY DISTORT, YOU REPEAT.
Hey, I think I hear Bill O'LIEly calling you!
NOT DEAD, NOT COLD JUST
tired of watching you run around making up jobs for yourself and causes that you can't do anything about in a way that will cause change. Why are you so certain that our soldiers are bad? What makes you so sure those children will be victims of "war crimes?" Think about that for a moment. You must have a really low opinion of most American soldiers.
I have children and let me assure you that even were I dead or my husband dead and they were 12 and tried to kill others I would feel like they would have to be accountable for what they had done. That is because I brought them up to be accountable. They were when they were 12 and they are today.
My words may be unacceptable to you, but are acceptable to many others. I have to tell you that I am related to some of those people by marriage and they have no love for us, no appreciation of who we are, what we want, what we give, or anything about us. They want to control us and take what we have. The males OWN the children and OWN their wives and those children and wives better do what they are told and nothing you can do personally can change their viewpoint in a timely enough manner to make a difference.
Comparing our culture with theirs and what we would do and want is futile. You cannot even imagine the true depths of their hatred of us unless you are close to them, are related to them, or live with them. We have chosen not to associate with or speak with any of them because after 20 years of beating your head on a wall you tend to tire out and move along to something you can do that will work. I personally try to focus on things closer to home that I can and do work on, causes for which I can make a difference and which will not wear me out in the process. Sometimes after you have exhausted yourself, your ideas, and every avenue you can think of to effect change it is best to walk away if you want to have anything left of yourself.
There are dead beat
dads all over, white, black, hispanic, etc. Honestly, there are a lot of dead beat moms out there too.
One thing I don't get and maybe I don't get cause I'm white.....but Jesse Jackson made a comment about Obama not doing anything about blacks in prison. What the heck is Obama supposed to do? I mean....you do the crime.....you do the time. So what is it that Obama is supopsed to do here.....or anyone for that matter?
Dead-end dialog
The phrase "sending up a prayer" is not your exclusive property and no, that is not the cliche I was speaking of. Just another sign of how shallowing your thinking really is and how next to impossible it seems for you to "catch my drift." I am out of the business of trying to reach insult parity with you so forgive me if I skip over the rest of this garbage. No matter how hard you try, you cannot pass off insult for intelligence, so please don't waste your time or mine.
You are welcome for the infusion of new insults and verbal abuse. Your repertoire really was getting stale. Verbal abuse is not my strong suite, but unfortunately, it seems to be the only thing you are willing to respond to. Cerainly, the issues seem to be a big taboo.
No, I don't need to have the last word. Just trying to have a little fun but I have had enough of the mud bath for the time being. My condescending self is in need of something a little more productive and uplifting.
BTW, would you please try to resist the urge to plagiarize? A little bit of originality in thought and content would be a welcome surprise.
Off now in search of the job...and a little bit of substative conversation. This horse has been thrashed enough.
Later.
Ths is not my choice, but unfortunately,
Dead thread.
nm
Campaign was already dead. That's why
nm
How many dead-end bashes are you going
nm
What a talent, she was dead on. nm
.
It was not a dead end. The information was there...
you just chose to ignore it, because it was not flattering to Obama. Period.
Typical Republicant hypocrisy. Ya gotta love it!
He questions "whether encouraging homemakers to become lawyers contributes to the common good," and then he turns around and marries a LAWYER!
This isn't surprising to me at all. Bush's is doing nothing but taking us backwards in time, whether it regards science or civil rights. The only area that is moving forward by leaps and bounds and progressing at an alarming rate is the price of gasoline.
Gotta laugh at the morons who think everything's Bush's fault too
x
Gotta love the double standards in politics.
Gotta give Backwards Typist credit...
for picking an appropriate name for herself.
I've gotta ask, since McCain wasn't born in the USA,
would you have been as angry and demanding that the will of the people be ignored if McCain had won the election?
And where is your outrage over Bush's complete lack of regard and respect for the Constitution over the last eight years?
This whole thing about Obama is ridiculous. If it were true, don't you think the Republicans would have had a field day with that as an issue?
This is the highest office in the land. Of course, Obama was vetted and found to be eligible to hold that office.
gotta just love your out of context quotes....too bad you don't have the rest of
|
!["](http://oascentral.newsmax.com/RealMedia/ads/click_lx.ads/www.newsmax.com/insidecover/L27/1884535513/Right/NewsMax/ThoseShirt_160_Mar09/Newsmax-Feb09-160x600.jpg/5154794b78556979464949414365622f?x")
