Here's the real story if you're interested

• Looks we all need Federal - BIRTH CONTROL. Better get out those condoms.
  • George's Interview with her on this specific subject - Backwards typist
    • I so agree with you. - I blame them for our economy.
    • Think what you want about Pelosi - Truthseeker
  • Here's the real story if you're interested - Truthseeker
    • The real story is that this is supposed to be a stimulus package. - Zville MT
      • Stimulus - Truthseeker
    • See inside. I can't figure out what to title this. LOL - Backwards typist
      • they don't do that anymore... - something more..sm
      • Anecdotal evidence - Truthseeker
        • For gosh sakes. I was not attributing statements - Backwards typist
  • question about this - just wondering
    • I heard that this morning too and almost spit out my coffee. sm - MT and worn out
      • right but - shelley

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After the last eight years, some of us EXPECT Republicans to lie.  The real story is that he ADMITTED to lying.  Won't he get thrown out of the GOP for daring to tell the truth?

As far as this being a one-sided story, it is what it is.  I doubt that you would withhold posting a story about Obama lying...if you had a legitimate one that could be documented as being truthful.  Instead, you guys invent negative stories about Obama with no corroboration, and when asked for a link to your "story," instead of providing one, you hurl personal negative insults at the poster.

When I heard this whole "once upon a time" story, it reminded me of Hillary's fake story about dodging snipers.

Jindal and Hillary Clinton.  Both politicians, different parties.  Both liars who invented entire life experiences that were lies, and both who should have been smart enough to know they would eventually get caught.

As far as whether it's okay for one to lie and not the other, I happen to believe it's NOT okay for ANY OF THEM to lie, regardless of party affiliation.

What is a little definition?  And how is your definition a big definition.  Can you provide sources for this categorization?

I am still waiting for the sources of the claim that a liberal poster(s) has stalked a conservative poster(s) at some point.  I find this very very intriguing and eagerly await the details!!!

http://www.tysknews.com/Articles/dnc_corruption.htm

I had no idea there was this much stuff out there.

That is my true feeling on the matter.  I am absolutely zero vested in conspiracy theories or ascribing blame.  Blame will not bring back anyone and at the same time, I feel there was a long long line of failures leading up to 9/11 that started way before President Bush and continued through many presidencies.  I hope, no matter what, in the end they can have peace of mind.  I am sure it has to be hard for them. 

It's just a device used by the neocons to keep the attention of the stifled.  They know that the repressed loonies in the county slobber over anything pertaining to sex.  Just look at O'Reilly.  Nearly every night he has some story about prostitutes, strip clubs, girls gone wild -- he is complaining how horrible it is, yet they always have tapes behind him of half-naked coeds grinding away.  If it is so horrible, must we see the tapes over and over?

On the www.apartmentherapy website, they feature the candidates homes.  I love that site.  Anway...spoiler alert, if anyone cares.

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What I found interesting is Mitt Romney lives in a comptemporary home on the water, which is pictured next to Barack Obama's conservative georgian style home.  

OK, not of vital interest, I just love looking at homes.

...purchasing these American icons.  More selling out of America, right under our noses.

Thank you, Congress. 

Chinese Automakers May Buy GM and Chrysler

By Bertel Schmitt
November 18, 2008 -

Chinese carmakers SAIC and Dongfeng have plans to acquire GM and Chrysler, China's 21st Century Business Herald reports today. [A National Enquirer the paper is not. It is one of China's leading business newspapers, with a daily readership over three million.] The paper cites a senior official of China's Ministry of Industry and Information Technology–– the state regulator of China's auto industry–– who dropped the hint that "the auto manufacturing giants in China, such as Shanghai Automotive Industry Corporation (SAIC) and Dongfeng Motor Corporation, have the capability and intention to buy some assets of the two crisis-plagued American automakers." These hints are very often followed with quick action in the Middle Kingdom. The hints were dropped just a few days after the same Chinese government gave its auto makers the go-ahead to invest abroad. And why would they do that?

A take-over of a large overseas auto maker would fit perfectly into China's plans. As reported before, China has realized that its export chances are slim without unfettered access to foreign technology. The brand cachet of Chinese cars abroad is, shall we say, challenged. The Chinese could easily export Made-in-China VWs, Toyotas, Buicks. If their joint venture partner would let them. The solution: Buy the joint venture partner. Especially, when he's in deep trouble.

At current market valuations (GM is worth less than Mattel) the Chinese government can afford to buy GM with petty cash. Even a hundred billion $ would barely dent China's more than $2t in currency reserves. For nobody in the world would buying GM and (while they are at it) Chrysler make more sense than for the Chinese. Overlap? What overlap? They would gain instant access to the world's markets with accepted brands, and proven technology.

21st Century Business Herald, obviously with input from higher-up, writes that Chinese industry must change and upgrade. China wants their factories to change from low-value-added manufacturing to technically innovative and financially-sound high-value-add industries. Says the paper: "It would be much easier now for strong Chinese automakers to go global by acquiring some assets of their U.S. counterparts in times of crisis."

Deloitte & Touche sees a trend: "Chinese automakers can start with buying out the OEM projects and Chinese ventures of some global carmakers such as GM and Chrysler."

The Chinese appear to have bigger plans than an accounting firm can imagine. 21st Century Business Herald acts and writes as if its already a done deal, and the beginning of more to come. "In the coming two years China is likely to see a few of its large Chinese automakers and other manufacturing enterprises set a precedent for achieving globalization by acquiring global companies, just like SAIC or Dongfeng's possible acquisition of troubled GM or Chrysler."

Just in case you missed it, the Shanghai Automotive Industry Corporation (SAIC) is China's largest auto manufacturer. In 1984, the company entered a joint venture with Volkswagen. A decade later, SAIC entered a joint venture with General Motors. In 2007, SAIC bought the Nanjing Automobile Corporation, which had acquired British MG Rover in 2005.

Dongfeng Motor Corporation is a public company, although 70 percent of their shares are reported to be in government hands. They also are one of China's Big Three. The company has numerous joint venture partners, such as Nissan, Peugeot-Citroen, Honda, and Kia. Dongfeng (which means "East Wind") was founded at the behest of Mao Zedong himself in 1968.