Her's another post the pubs won't touch
Posted By: with a 10-foot hockey stick. nm on 2008-09-03
In Reply to: "Palin said war in Iraq, gas pipeline are God’s will." nm - unbelievable!
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Questions for dems and pubs - only serious responses need post...(sm)
If you are a democrat, is there anything that Obama has done that you don't agree with, or perhaps is there a policy that he has kept from the previous admin that you agree with that would be out of the norm for the left?
My answer: I actually agree with the decision exhibited thus far by the Obama administration to keep the "enemy combatant" thing. I think it could serve as useful, however, it should not be abused. In the case of al-Marri I think it was abused, and it should be refined. They have FINALLY brought charges against this guy who has been held in prison since 2003 with no charges, no counsel, nada. I think we need to preserve the right to hold people, but there needs to be some kind of standard for doing so.
Info on case: http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5gcdH1vowYGzkkCo-7c8M2imC056Q
If you are a republican is there anything that the Obama administration has done that you DO agree with?
Don't you wish? You cant touch him
Just look at the contrast. A week of hope, light, vision, excitement, praise, even from the most skeptical pundits, no scandals, no skeletons in the closet. Success, despite your best efforts to cast the candidate as a rock star wannabe, ridicule the setting and minimize the record-breaking numbers in the audience.
Another week, we have gloom, doom, pesky natural disasters, reminiscent of past pub leadership deficits, disappearing keynote speakers (plural), invisible in the leadership roles they use as an excuse in their haste to escape out the back door, hiding behind an obviously nervous wife who has been plugged in as a last minute substitute, a hugely angered female population, dissed and insulted by an ill-advised, pandering VP pick, ridiculed for lack of experience and plunged into scandal...and we haven't even reached the end of the first day.
There seem to be forces much greater than you or I, our parties or our leaders in play as we progress through what I am sure will be a most interesting week, full of suprises on both sides of the aisle. Hey, honey, please pass the popcorn.
Is this guy out of touch?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/3886193/Dick-Cheney-defends-US-interrogation-methods.html
This is how out of touch McCain is
I heard he offered something like $300K (forget exact sum) to someone who comes up with a vehicle that runs on battery. Hellooooooo... there is already one already. It's called the electric car. So why is he offering that huge sum to someone (I have no doubt one of his friends will probably "come up" with this. IMO, this is what the republicans are all about...giving their friends lots of money for nothing. How bout importing the car that runs on water (think its over in Japan). I also heard there is a vehicle made in another country that would cost about $1200 (forget right now if its hybrid, electric or what), but it also uses no fuel. But none of these cars are being allowed to be sold in the US. Why? Because the car dealers are not allowing that to happen. They won't allow anything but their gas guzzling ones.
Got to love how they get in touch huh?
LOL the power of the internet.
Well I looked up the Southern Baptist Convention and it looks like our resolutions are against it. I just wanted to be sure!
http://www.sbc.net/resolutions/AMResSearchAction.asp?DisplayRows=10&SearchBy=Subject&Submit=Search&frmData=abortion
This is my biggest thought on it. I believe that God gives life. It is a sacred gift. I know you are a Jew so you don't believe in Christ as the Messiah (right? forgive me if I'm wrong) but for Christians we do believe he was. He was created and formed in the womb just as we are created and formed in the womb. Thank God Mary didn't abort Him!
While it is not mentioned directly in the Bible, I don't think it's hard to see that God views life as something not to be taken lightly. I think like all other vile things that have been created in this world, abortion was created through sin. Just as Christians shouldn't take part in pornography, or drugs, or drunkenness, we should not take part in abortions.
I understand that not everyone is Christian. To them I say they have bigger problems to worry about than whether or not they are committing a sin.
I honestly believe in a godly society abortion wouldn't even be mentioned. Of course in a godly society people wouldn't be running around having sex with whomever, whenever, and however and the gift of a child would be viewed as just that, a gift.
But that's the world we know, unfortunately.
It's just unfortunate all the great lives that have probably been lost due to someone's "inconvenience".
he wouldn't touch
your fat fanny with a padded 10 foot pole. He is happily married to an educated woman.
I tend to think, after reading this, t hat you are the one out of touch
with Jewish teachings. It would seem to me that rabbis saying these things would carry a lot more weight. As far as the number who attended, that doesn't seem important. It is what they are saying that carries import. I don't think you speak for the Jewish community.
It is the way of a democracy. I keep in touch with my senators and one...sm
lone representative. I pay attention to whether they vote in my best interest and are honest in their dealings and let them know if I disagree, and vote or not vote for them in the next election. You are naive if you think that democrats are solely responsible for this meltdown. Looking for the other party to blame is counterproductive and will help no one. Money hungry greed is what has led us to this and both parties are to blame.
Gloom and doom can't touch us now.
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I received this too. Nice touch. nm
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The truth usually does touch a sore spot
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He did not let it touch the ground - he didn't "wad" it up
If that's what you saw, then the only thing I can say is you were all for the Mexican flag flying above the American flag. This hero came in and cut it away from the other flag and did not let it touch the ground (which you obviously do not know is a sign of respect). But you cannot fold it properly by yourself. He also had the courage to stand in front of the camera and give his name and what he was doing. He did not wad up the flag, he put it under his arm to take back to wherever he went and give it the respect it deserves. The people who had their flag flying above the American flag should be arrested, deported back to Mexico where they can fly their flag above others, and their business should be shut down. What do you think would have happened if someone had flown the American flag above the mexican flag in their own country?
Get a grip!!!!!!!!
They can't even combined touch Kerry's wealth. Get real.
 on your own bad self.
Yep, I've lready crossed the you-can't-touch-me-now threshold.
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Ummm....ummm....nope, I'd best not touch that one. nm
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Pubs and you especially, Sam, have
Left shoe is on the right foot now. No choice left except to stew in your own juices in this regard.
The Pubs also always say...
Just look at his mother at age 94 (or whatever). She's still kicking at her age. NOT!!! No one ever asks where his father is. Dead perhaps? At what age? Will have to Google that maybe.
The same can be said for the pubs that
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Pubs
I'm not a pub as you put it, but a democrat, and I cringe at the thought of Obama in the white house. If it were Biden, I would definitely consider that strongly but when you have nothing but corrupt questionable activities and more than questionable acquaintances, I won't help put that kind of person in office.
I'd rather go down with the sinking ship, as some poor lost soul OP phrased it, rather than be the cause of the sinking ship.
Oh, I know, all pubs are...well,
fine and upstanding citizens and bleeding hearts for the middle class and poor. I imagine rabid Republicans are about the only ones who still think George W. Bush is a fine, honest, Christian man. I recall one Rabid around here who carried a huge sign around in the back of his pick-up truck in 2004 that said, "Vote freedom, vote God, vote Bush." Nearly made me vomit. Not surprisingly, being a rabid Republican, he is carrying around the same sign but changed Bush to McCain. But he's also crying that he lost his job, is worried about his mortgage and they can't afford for his wife to retire. Rabid people can't seem to learn anything from experience.
Here's a new one for you pubs....
Got this email this morning who says from her mouth to my ears that she is a DEMOCRAT, has never voted for a republican but says (from her mouth to my ears) that she will NEVER vote for a black president. So she sends me this with the warning in the subject line, "be afraid, be very afraid." If I didn't love her I'd wring her neck off!!
Notice to All Employees
As of November 5, 2008, when President Obama is officially elected into office, our company will instill a few new policies which are in keeping with his new, inspiring issues of change and fairness:
1. All salespeople will be pooling their sales and bonuses into a common pool that will be divided equally between all of you. This will serve to give those of you who are underachieving a “fair shake.”
2. All low level workers will be pooling their wages, including overtime, into a common pool, dividing it equally amongst yourselves. This will help those who are “too busy for overtime” to reap the rewards from those who have more spare time and can work extra hours.
3. All top management will now be referred to as “the government.” We will not participate in this “pooling” experience because the law doesn't apply to us.
4. The “government” will give eloquent speeches to all employees every week, encouraging it's workers to continue to work hard “for the good of all.”
5. The employees will be thrilled with these new policies because it's “good to spread the wealth". Those of you who have underachieved will finally get an opportunity; those of you who have worked hard and had success will feel more “patriotic.”
6. The last few people who were hired should clean out their desks. Don't feel bad, though, because President Obama will give you free healthcare, free handouts, free oil for heating your home, free food stamps, and he'll let you stay in your home for as long as you want even if you can't pay your mortgage. If you appeal directly to our democratic congress, you might even get a free flatscreen TV and a coupon for free haircuts (shouldn't all Americans be entitled to nice looking hair?) !!!
If for any reason you are not happy with the new policies, you may want to rethink your vote on November 4th.
Who said anything about pubs? I said O can't get
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about 5 pubs
Minority hardly even describes how you think.
Pubs would love that, but no can do.
Somebody from your cowardly party steps us and acknowledges some responsibility and culpibility in this tragedy.
If she is a sideshow, why are the Pubs
keeping her away from the media? Why hasn't she answered one question nor had one interview since she was picked as VP nominee? Seems odd to me, but then, I find JM's choice very odd and not so brilliant.
Like I said, pubs simply do not
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Calling all pubs.
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Pubs hate sex
Pubs think sex is a sin - click on link
Exactly! I see no comments from the Pubs.
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Sure and the pubs had no hand in it at all.
Maybe if the pubs weren't so against regulating it may have been averted too.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/22/us/politics/22mccain.html?_r=2&adxnnl=1&oref=slogin&ref=politics&pagewanted=print&adxnnlx=1222092873-DDzUm2VKJMYWutTohJrNDQ
maybe sam's one of them rich oil pubs
well-being of the rest of us.
If that's your theory, then the pubs
should have been all for it, but they weren't, were they?
Pubs are the ones with blinders on.
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Didn't say that. You did. It's the pubs who
JM's economic meltdown plan is exactly what now?
Exactly, pubs had to take on the responsibility
to handle the junk the dems left them with. Glad you understand.
Maybe we could just round up all the pubs
so we can actually get some work done this time around!
I do believe the pubs are grasping at
Time for a change; the same isn't working anymore...
Look, if the pubs are going to get a bad wrap
I may as well ruffle your feathers!!!  (At least I'm trying to be PC by posting a nonpartisan-looking smiling)
I don't think it's fair to just say pubs
GP...I have had many dems be downright hateful to me about the fact that i'm too "close minded" and "ignorant" because I won't vote for Obama.
Quite frankly I don't care, because I consider myself an independent. I just happen to be voting republican this time. I wish like heck an independent had become a viable candidate but i'll be amazed if that EVER happens.
"A Few Years Ago" the pubs had the
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I am not bashing - but the same can be said of hte pubs -
The bitter, bitter pubs are still bashing Obama instead of waiting and giving him a chance.
He is our next POTUS and he should be given the respect he is due in that position. Everybody should start with a clean slate - at least let him get started before you tear him down...
Pubs blocking help for big 3?
Okay, its obvious that we are going down financially, but why would republicans want to make it worse? The auto industry is going down, and pubs don't want to help because it's "their problem" and not ours? Granted, a bailout may not work, but doing nothing will definitely not work. Are they really working for the country or taking a gamble and just looking at the next election? Meanwhile, we have yet another day of people losing jobs. Is it Jan 20 yet?
Check this out:
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/politics/2008/11/13/tsr.bouldan.gm.bailout.congress.cnn
Well, the pubs supported s/m
the Wall Street bailout didn't they? Haven't you heard about American Express? This is the most ridiculous thing this lousy government has ever done. Big business gets bailed out with our tax dollars and the "small businesses" that Bush says is providing all the new jobs, they either sink or swim on their own. This is just another way for politicians to feather the nexts of their big business buds. And what about that economic summit going on in Washington today? Could it be the creditors of the USA are here to call in their loans? It is absurd to bail out the auto industry. Do you think it's going to save jobs? Well, it won't. If they are going to get bailed out it should be with a stipulation that all their parts are AMERICAN made. THAT might save American jobs. They'll get the bailouts and their employees and the rest of the country will get SCREWED.
Everyone (dems and pubs)...(sm)
have said the economy is going to get worse before it gets better, so again, how about something specific?
This is the man the pubs listen to.
Beck began his radio career when he won a local radio contest to be a DJ for an hour, and was eventually granted a part-time job. He hosted Christian radio on Saturday, rock on Sunday and country on weeknights. In the mid 80s he worked at WRKA radio in Louisville, Kentucky as a morning-drive DJ. His show was called Captain Beck and the A-Team.
After graduating from high school, Beck pursued his career as a Top 40 DJ. By the time he was in his 20s, Beck was on WKCI-FM (KC101), a Top 40 radio station in Hamden, Connecticut, hosting the local morning show with Pat Gray. Originally the show was billed as the Glenn and Pat Show. When Gray left the show, Beck continued with co-host Vinnie Penn. While working in Connecticut, he appeared and sang background vocals on The Delrays' Red, White and Blues CD, a fund raising effort by then Governor John Rowland produced by guitarist Tom Guerra. The CD was well received and was promoted by a series of live appearances.Years later, he began to explore the world of talk radio with a three-hour program on KC101's sister station, WELI. Beck then worked at Tampa, Florida's WFLA-AM and launched The Glenn Beck Program during the afternoon drive, filling the slot held by Bob Lassiter after the station's new owners, Clear Channel, fired him. Beck hosted the new radio show, combining politics and comedy. In the first year, The Glenn Beck Program moved from 14th place to the #2 position.
His theme song back in the Tampa days was a copy of the song, "AM Radio" by the band Everclear. "You got Glenn Beck on your AM radio... AM radio."
Within 12 months, Premiere Radio Networks offered Beck the opportunity to go national. In January 2002, The Glenn Beck Program launched nationally; by May 2008, it had reached over 280 stations as well as appearing on XM Satellite. With over six and a half million listeners, it was ranked 4th in the nation.[2] In January 2006, CNN's Headline News announced that Beck would host a nightly news-commentary show in their new primetime block Headline Prime; the show, simply called Glenn Beck, began in May 2006.
On November 5, 2007, The New York Times reported that Premiere Radio Networks was extending Beck's contract. Two sources with knowledge of the deal said the five-year contract was valued at $50 million.[citation needed]
On July 21, 2008, Beck filled in for Larry King on the show Larry King Live.[3]
In 2008, Beck won the Marconi Radio Award for Network Syndicated Personality of the Year.
On October 16, 2008, it was reported by the Drudge Report and The Politico that Beck has signed a contract with the Fox News Channel to host a weekday show at 5pm ET beginning January 19 2009, as well as a weekend version. Because of his new deal, CNN immediately discontinued the show on October 17, 2008 and replaced it with a news hour anchored by Jane Velez Mitchell.
Is this the best this goofball has to offer you pubs...pitiful doesn't begin to cover it!
Pubs want it both ways....(sm)
Having it Both Ways: Republicans Take Credit For 'Pork' In Stimulus Bill They Opposed
Of course, no one's really surprised, right? I just wonder if the Democratic communications staffers will kick into gear and capitalize on this kind of story:
WASHINGTON — Rep. John Mica was gushing after the House of Representatives voted Friday to pass the big stimulus plan.
"I applaud President Obama's recognition that high-speed rail should be part of America's future," the Florida Republican beamed in a press release.
Yet Mica had just joined every other GOP House member in voting against the $787.2 billion economic recovery plan.
Republicans echoed their party line over and over during the debate: "This bill is loaded with wasteful deficit spending on the majority's favorite government programs," as Minority Whip Eric Cantor, R-Va., put it.
But Mica wasn't alone in touting what he saw as the bill's virtues. Rep. Don Young, R-Alaska, also had nice things to say in a press release.
Young boasted that he "won a victory for the Alaska Native contracting program and other Alaska small business owners last night in H.R. 1, the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act."
One provision would have made it harder for minority businesses to win contracts, and Young explained that he "worked with members on the other side of the aisle to make the case for these programs, and was able to get the provision pulled from the bill."
Yet later in the day Young — who recently told McClatchy that he would've included earmarks, or local projects, in the bill if it had been permitted — issued another statement blasting the overall measure.
"This bill was not a stimulus bill. It was a vehicle for pet projects, and that's wrong," he protested.
http://crooksandliars.com/susie-madrak/having-it-both-ways-republicans-take-
So what do you pubs feel about hip-hop...LOL
Check this out....hilarious 
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/#29290442
Oh, those pubs and their posturing!! sm
The GOP air is filled with pathetic desperation!!
Silence of the Pubs
The reason for the original post was to show that the Republicans and so called "independents" are quick to blame President Obama when the market is down, yet the cat has their tongues when the market goes up. Apparently, their motto is "If you don't have anything bad to say, don't say anything."
No one is foolish enough to believe that a one-day gain in the stock market means the end of the economic crisis.
If this is the work of the pubs
they need to get a clue and wise up as well. I was kind of hoping that a third serious party would come out of this but I'm still waiting. What I wouldn't give to tell both pubs and dems where to go and vote someone in who is of neither party so we the people can prove our point that we don't like what either party is doing. I'm not voting for the lesser of two evils anymore. I refuse. I'm going to vote for who I think really deserves the job and even if I write that person in or it is an independent that doesn't have a snow balls chance in he!! to get elected....i'm voting for them if they are right person. To he!! with this 2 party BS that is just mud slinging back and forth with no real plan or resolution to anything.
Nope, it was only some pubs,
unfortunately just the ones that speak the loudest. And I don't totally disagree with that report about the extremists, but I think it was not right to have a two separate reports, one for right wingers and one for left - extremists are everywhere and they don't have to belong to any political party to be dangerous.
Did you know that the Ku Klux Klan was started by a bunch of southern democrats who didn't like the idea of slaves being freed - by a republican, no less. But this was not about politics. I don't happen to know anyone in the KKK these days, but I'd be willing to bet that there are members of both parties in that group now, but it was never about politics - it was about hate, pure and simple. Same with those that hate the Jews, hate gays, hate whomever - it's never about politics.
And yes, some believe everything that those on Fox say, but you have to admit that there are also some that believe everything MSNBC says (which is just as far the other way).
I love that you are so very passionate about your beliefs and have the intelligence to back them up - you remind me of my best friend, who is also a liberal dem. I only ask that when complaining about the pubs, please don't group us all together - we're not all war-mongering, torture-loving, corporate-greed, Fox News zombies =)
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