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How do you think Jews feel when Obama shuns The Holocaust.  Did their white skin give them a pass in any way before they were thrown en mass into those ovens?  It wasn't right then, either.  None of it is.

Just something to think about. 

is absolutely correct.  What was posted previously:  Wright said, according to Virginia's Daily Press. "They will not let him ... talk to somebody who calls a spade what it is." 

What was said:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfDeRY7IgcQ

Please note what was left out (replaced with "...").  He's not just slamming Jews in general.  He's talking about the influence of the Jewish vote in this country (which is a problem).

"Ethnic cleansing is going on in Gaza. Ethnic cleansing of the Zionist is a sin and a crime against humanity, and they don't want Barack talking like that because that's anti-Israel," Wright said. 

This is also true.  The man is doing nothing more than speaking the truth and getting harrassed for it.

You described with great candor and honesty the most extreme side of your religion, and I appreciate the glimpse into a life that I otherwise didn't know existed.

I think many of us have experience with extremes.  They're usually dirty little secrets that most people won't admit.  Maybe it's time that some of them come out into the open.  You've been open enough to describe some aspects of your personal life (which took a lot of courage in THIS arena).  You've also triggered some not to good memories in my life.

I remember growing up in a small town as a child with my parents, my friends' parents, all my relatives (from different little towns in different states), ALL Christians and ALL HATING Jews.  They blamed the liberal media on the Jews who controlled it.  (I've heard this allegation again recently, in the last couple years, as well, so nobody can convince me that Christians suddenly love Jews.)  If anything could make the veins in their neck pop out, it was th emention of the money the U.S. gave to Israel.  The John Birch Society and Barry Goldwater were icons in my home.  My father even voted once for George Wallace for president.

If a prominent Jew in my little town was a successful attorney, doctor or banker, they were referred to as such with (fill in the blank) derogatory terms preceding the Jew occupation. Jew and blacks.  They received equal condemnation.

My father was a terrible bigot and racist.  My cousin had a black POODLE that my dad wouldn't even permit in the house.  He paid school tuition for another school during my first two years in school so I wouldn't have to go to the school less than a mile away from me because the students were 99% black.  Then he couldn't afford it any more, and I was sent to the closer school.

Will never forget one Saturday when I was in third grade, going downtown with my parents for the day and seeing one of my classmates with her family, who we passed on the street.  We both smiled at each other and said hello.  My father SCREAMED at me in front of my classmate and her family, telling me I wasn't allowed to speak to _____.  I remember feeling humiliated beyond belief, and that hurt even more than the beating I got with his belt when we got home.  The embarrassment lasted a lot longer than the welts on my legs from that beating.  Whatever lesson he was trying to teach me backfired because all I could think of was how nice my schoolmate was and how STUPID and HATEFUL he acted.

When I was a teenager, I worked for the local radio station and became very friendly with the news director (a JEW).  He used to get me involved in all different aspects of the station that had nothing to do with my job.  (He even talked me into doing a commercial.)  If he had been a Jewish classmate of mine who I had been hanging out with, I would have been punished yet again.  Instead, my mom thought it was so cool because this guy was basically a celebrity who was on the radio daily.  I learned the true meaning of hypocrite very early on in my life.

In my mid 20s, I went to work for a Jewish attorney in my small town.  Never, ever, EVER was I treated so well at a job with bonuses and raises, etc.  Gorgeous bachelor to boot!  LOL.  We became very good friends and sometimes would have a drink after work together and just talk.  I remember once he told me that I was the only girlfriend he ever had.  When I asked him what he meant, he said Well, you're a girl, and you're my friend.  LOL. 

My daughter was in grade school at the time (ironically at the very same school I mentioned above), and every afternoon, I would leave the office to pick her up from school and bring her back to the office so she could be safe and with me until my workday ended.  This wasn't my idea.  It was HIS.  I remember once when my birthday was on a weekend, he called me with a work emergency and asked me if I could go to the big city (about an hour away where he lived and had another office) to help with some work. He told me to bring my daughter who could stay with his mom and watch wrestling on their big screen TV while I worked.  (My daughter and his mom both believed it was real, and they were good buddies.)  The whole thing was a rouse just to get us there.  He surprised us with a weekend stay at the plushest hotel there, room service, movies, ANYTHING and EVERYTHING that we wanted, and he paid for it.

While I worked for him, my beloved aunt died.  She truly was a Christian, was the organist at church, and most importantly, lived her life in a loving way (unfortunately, not a hereditary trait in my family). She had named me as co-owner on a certificate of deposit.  My Christian aunts, her sisters and the executors of her estate, refused to give it to me.  I'll never forget going to my aunt's house at their request, only to have them all sitting like some kind of posse on the front porch, SCREAMING at me for everyone to hear, telling me I'd never get it, and telling me to go run to my ***damn Jew lawyer.  I finally did have to hire a lawyer, but it wasn't him.  I was too ashamed of my family to involve him in this.  They were finally forced to turn it over to me about a year later, but they never gave me my mother's wedding gown, which I had requested and which had always been stored at my aunt's house.  I had wanted to give it to my daughter for her wedding, but I never saw it again.  What wonderful Christians.

I refuse to believe that my small town was the only one in America with such wonderful Christian values, and I lived in the north.  It's even worse in some areas of the south.  From reading these boards, it's obvious that many of today's Christians are driven by extreme gutteral hatred, so I'm VERY surprised to suddenly see that they're so sympathetic to Jews.  I don't believe for one second that they have an iota of respect for Jews -- either the ethnic group or the religion.  What I do believe is that they're only thinking of the LOCATION of Israel and how it affects THEIR religion.  Maybe I wouldn't feel that way if the hatred and intolerance and lies of some of these posters wasn't so obvious and if they didn't follow so closely the policies of Bush that do nothing but take us back into the 1950s (as Roberts would like to do, particularly with women).  So many of these people remind me of the mentality I experienced in my childhood, and I believe it's alive and well today.  The only difference they're wolves in sheeps' clothing today because they can no longer publicly say the things that I heard growing up and can only say these things in private when they're with their kind.  In my adult life still, some misread me and think I'm one of them.  It still exists.  It's alive and well in America.

This sudden love of Israel and Jews is about the most disingenuous thing I've ever seen come from loving, tolerant Christians.

The can go ahead and flame away.  Wrap themselves in the Bible and the American flag and destroy, deny and lie.  That's how some American Christians communicate today, from Bush all the way down, down, DOWN to some posters on these boards.  I must have somehow missed the day when God decided to condone blatant lying.  I believe that's morally wrong.  But what do I know about values?  I'm a liberal.

NO ONE WHO TALKS ABOUT PERFECTING JEWS IS ENTERTAINING..DO YOU UNDERSTAND??

Yes, well, I admire their faith.  And this will be my last discussion with you on this particular subject. 

The disclosure that last month Governor Palin's church hosted the executive director of Jews for Jesus, who told congregants that violence against Israeli Jews is God's punishment for their failure to accept Jesus, is going to be the next club that Mrs. Palin's leftist critics pick up against her. The Jewish Telegraphic Agency quotes Mrs. Palin's pastor at Wasilla Bible Church, Larry Kroon, as saying that he doesn't believe Jews for Jesus are deceptive. "Look at Paul and Peter and the others — they were Jews and believed in Jesus as the messiah," he told JTA. "There's gentile believers and there's Jewish believers that acknowledge Jesus as messiah. There's Swedish believers."

They go on to half-assedly defend Palin by mentioning Jeremiah Wright and how there's no "religious test" for the presidency, but the Jews For Jesus are far outside the mainstream even for practicing evangelicals. Jewish Defense League Anti-Defamation League [I do know the difference! Whoops!] head Abe Foxman is pretending it's not a big deal by invoking the Spanish Inquisition (done by Catholics, not Protestants!) but his own organization has a longer, richer history of warning people about the deceptive and offensive tactics of the Jews for Jesus.

Sarah Palin's Jews for Jesus setting up shop in Wasilla, Alaska almost reminds us of Michael Chabon's charming The Yiddish Policeman's Union, his detective novel set in an alternate universe in which Americans settled Jewish WWII refugees in Alaska and Israel died before it was born. The incongruous idea of a Jewish settlement in far-off Sitka gives the book much of its uneasy atmosphere, especially in the mentions of the current fictional President of the US, an evangelical Christian promising to finally kick those Jews out of the pristine frontier, "pledging to restore Alaska for Alaskans, wild and clean."

The Democrats more or less handed Florida over to the Republicans when they selected (sorry, we'll say it) a black man without a rich history of pro-Israel hawkishness (even though he saw the light and came around pretty dam quick). This, though, might actually put it back in play.

Just curious.

I don't know where you live, but I live in the United States of America.  We have freedom of religion in this country, and I'm still allowed to believe in God even if I don't share your particular religious beliefs.  I thought God was the only one who passes judgment on people.  What gives you the right to judge me and others on this board so negatively?

Please answer my question.  Do Jews go to heaven? 

Book: Bush told reporter Jews are 'all going to hell'

09/02/2006 @ 7:53 pm

An upcoming book about presidential advisor Karl Rove reports allegations of anti-semitism by President George W. Bush, RAW STORY has learned.

In The Architect: Karl Rove and the Master Plan for Absolute Power, Austin-based journalist James Moore and Wayne Slater, senior political reporter for the Dallas Morning News, will allege that Bush once made anti-semitic comments to a reporter.

You know what I'm gonna tell those Jews when I get to Israel, don't you Herman? a then Governor George W. Bush allegedly asked a reporter for the Austin American-Statesman.

When the journalist, Ken Herman, replied that he did not know, Bush reportedly delivered the punch line: I'm telling 'em they're all going to hell.

This quip never received wider media attention. RAW STORY obtained a copy of The Architect late this week.

Bush's thoughts on the fate of non-Christian souls became a minor source of controversy after he told the Houston Post in 1993 that only those who accept Jesus Christ go to Heaven. However, the future president was also earlier briefly engaged to a half-Jewish woman.

The authors of The Architect assert that religion and ethnicity have been manipulated by Bush and Rove to divide and conquer the nation.

More information about the book, to be released Tuesday, can be found here.

That makes sense. 

You accuse me of drinking and then cry when it happens to you. SM

WHAT happened to ME, Brunson Burnout?

how do you know he's a pub?  There are dems criticizing the stimulus. This man been in the road construction business for years. He knows what's needed and what has to be done. What he's saying is there was not enough money given for the road and bridge infrastructure.

IMHO, I don't think money for teachers should be part of this. Teachers in my area make around $50K a year and the administrators make over $100K. We are definitely not city and the average taxpayer here only earns $24K if they go out of the county for work.  Otherwise, the average salary around here is $14K a year...yet our schools do not prepare the kids for college like they should. Too much emphasis  is placed on sports and not on education. The teachers do not teach the important things. Most of them don't know how to count money without a calculator or cash register to tell them how much change they should give back. They don't know how to read or write (spell). I see it all the time.

I know teachers are the backbone of our society and future for our kids, but some don't belong in the world of teaching. They're in it for the money and benefits only.

I coudl go on and on with what is wrong with this package, and what they should do, but now I have to go and work for my slave wages.

Avraham Hirschson, the Israeli tourism minister, said: I'm not a theologian, I'm the minister of tourism, and I'm not interested in the politics of our tourists as long as they come here. They come here as tourists, and they're friends of Israel.

"I spent 19 years in the military."

It's not until someone thanked her for her service and asked what branch she was in that we found out that she was in a military FAMILY.  Was that a lie?  OF COURSE NOT AND DON'T ANYONE DARE SAY SHE LIED.

Another poster (maybe the same as the above) really displayed the extent of her intelligence when she responded to a poster by referring to their "vaucity." When asked what that meant, she responded by saying look it up.  When a poster responded that she tried BUT IT ISN'T IN THE DICTIONARY, she replied that it's a "combination of 2 words" that can be found on blogs all over the net.  (When asked WHICH 2 words, she couldn/didn't respond.)

Turns out, it was a typo and was supposed to read "vacuity."  The irony was that she was trying to tell the original poster that they were stupid, but who REALLY looked stupid during all this????  Can she say it's a typo?  NO.  And as far as a "blog" term that doesn't exist, SHE DID NOT LIE, SO DON'T CALL HER A LIAR.

Best part is if a little HONESTY could be employed by these people, there wouldn't be an argument.  It's absolutely honorable to be a member of a military family, and they, too make sacrifices and should be thanked for that.  But it is NOT the same as saying "I spent 19 years in the military."  I know people who actually DID spend 20 years in the military and retired at a very young age. Still, it is very honorable to be a member of a military family.  At least in my eyes it is.  Guess it wasn't in hers or she would have been honest about her role.

Also, instead of saying "I made a typo, and I meant to write vaucity," again, the invention of "facts" about a combination of two nonexitent words.

Another member of their gang... well, just go visit the Conservative board for yourself and read the entire thread about the activist judges/groups who are responsible for not letting the poster place a nativity scene in her own yard.  She was questioned by someone, and it's not until the fourth post that she begins by saying, "I'll be up front with you."  HOW NICE.  It's quite comical.  If you haven't read it, you should.  Turns out it had nothing to do with "activist judges/groups" at all.  BUT SHE DID NOT LIE!!!!!

When I come to these boards, I start out with the belief that everyone has credibility.  It's only after they prove to me THEMSELVES that they don't, by their very OWN ACTIONS AND WORDS that they can't be believed, that I begin to form negative opinions.

What you wrote is a perfect example of someone whose credibility is definitely ... uh.... challenged. (trying to be kind)

And yes, LOL, I'd bet a psychiatrist could make a mint from some of these people.

And riled?  Yeah, used to a little bit, but now I just find them more comical than anything.  But I'll grow out of it like I did with the OTHER Curly, Larry and Moe.