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Having Bible study is NOT a business.....

Posted By: churches? are you kidding? sm on 2009-05-28
In Reply to: Oh please - no one is losing their freedom - just me

Are you actually so lame that you believe you have to be in a church to have Bible study? Maybe you need to go to one then.

If Bible study were a business, then having a meeting for cub scouts, girl scouts, weekly poker get togethers would be a business then wouldn't it?

Please...... you and those like you are the problem. They have no beliefs whatsoever in anything and couldn't care less if religious freedom is stripped from us or not.

What a shame! By the way, last time I checked, gays and lesbians have the same rights I do..... they are free to go to Bible study too!!




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Since when did a Bible study..........sm
become a business meeting?

Bible studies, in case you didn't know, are not the same as Sunday morning meetings. They are for discussion and study of the Bible, nothing more, nothing less. Collection plates are not passed and church business is not generally discussed at Bible studies. Churches do have business meetings, however, in which church business is discussed and that is normally done in the church building. Since, as you point out, churches do not pay taxes, then that would, in my estimation, eliminate them as being a business, so therefore, a Bible study is not a business or business meeting. Apart from the subject matter, it is no different than 10 or 15 good old boys getting together on a Sunday afternoon to watch the races on Bubba's big-screen TV.

I read the article and the questions the law officer asked related specifically to a religious organization. I don't remember seeing where he asked if collections were taken during the meeting, only if they prayed, read the Bible, etc. This very much sounds to me like targeting a Christian group, nothing less. I hope the pastor asks his neighbors if they called the police because that is exactly what sounds like happened.
and a Bible study is not a church either sm
There is a difference. Its about CHRISTIAN persecution!
again, a Bible study at someones house sm
is not a church service. There shouldn't be collecting money, etc. etc.

If the government keeps this stuff up and the folks that support this kind of stuff keep on, it will be one day where you can't even have a family gathering at your house without a permit!

What if half your neighborhood has 15-20 people at their house for all the holidays? Going by what you have posted, that would be a dangerous situation. Aer there enough exits, proper fire extinguishers, etc. etc. People do it all the time. Its called socializing!

Again this is nothing but a serious effort to stop Christians from gathering at all. Nothing but Satan at work.
again, a Bible study at someones house sm
is not a church service. There shouldn't be collecting money, etc. etc.

If the government keeps this stuff up and the folks that support this kind of stuff keep on, it will be one day where you can't even have a family gathering at your house without a permit!

What if half your neighborhood has 15-20 people at their house for all the holidays? Going by what you have posted, that would be a dangerous situation. Aer there enough exits, proper fire extinguishers, etc. etc. People do it all the time. Its called socializing!

Again this is nothing but a serious effort to stop Christians from gathering at all. Nothing but Satan at work.
County trying to STOP home Bible study in

http://www.10news.com/news/19562217/detail.html


Kenya has no business in the business of the U.S.

I may be an idjit myself and I am certainly the most cynical of the cynical.  While I'm about it, I think Obama's mom was a bit of an idjit for making the decisions she made in life but I guess that was her business. 


As for GWB, he certainly does deserve some discussion.  Like why did he not straight away pardon those 2 border patrol agents who were the target of the worst miscarriage of justice I have personally ever seen?  Could there be something synister there?  I think so.


I am most certainly NOT a liberal and by the heart of conservatives, I am NOT a conservative either.  I do agree with them (if they really believe it) that abortion and gay marriage are wrong.  HOWEVER, my opinion being stated, I believe those are moral issues and as such belong to God and not the government.  I also do not believe God requires my assistance in passing judgement on them.


Soooo....with all the problems we were facing, t here are many more important issues than Obama's birth certificate.  I drug my feet in voting for Obama but I do  have a glimmer of hope that he is working to at least get some plan in place for the day he is inaugerated.  Everyone deserves a chance.  The American people have spoken so it's time to put this b/c nonissue to rest and get to the business of importance...like millions of people projected to be unemployed and the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression, which if something isn't done and soon we are headed for the worst times most of you have ever seen and you'll have enough to worry about just wondering how you're going to put food on the table.


study up on the NDC and no, I won't do your
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brain study
I read a study where they did brain scans on democrats and republicans and while scanning showed pictures of war.  The republican brains lit up on the opposite side than the democrat brains.  So, the study surmised that just maybe our brains were built to work differently and that could be why we have a take on things so radically differently.  I will try to find the article and post the net address.
We all better study up on socialism..it's on its way
if people don't smarten up and look beyond the promises and pretty speeches.
I know where I live they do have to study and take a ..
test to become an american citizen, then they can legally work in America and pay taxes.  I don't know what it is like where you live though.
new study states political

leanings are partially genetic.  Those who startle easily are more likely to be republican.  Those who are on a more even keel and do not startle at small noises or movements are more likely to be democrats.  I would say this board supports those conclusions.


 


It seems to me that this study shows that conservatives (sm)
are MORE concerned about others than democrats. They see a picture of SOMEONE ELSE who is hurt or dead and they react more than the democrats. I used to think of myself as being fairly liberal, but if that means being associated with the type of people many of the democrats who post on here appear to be, then no thanks, I'll call myself conservative. Actually I always vote for the candidate I agree with most, regardless of party.
I love to study Revelations

I have read many, many commentaries on Revelations  but I also enjoy researching and studying myself.  There are some, some I know personally, who sincerely believe McCain is the anti-Christ.  I don't believe that.  I do believe the anti-Christ is alive in the world today.  According to the Bible, even we believers will be deceived if it were possible.  We are to watch and wait.  Jesus tells us not to be afraid.  I'm here to tell ya I expect the Rapture at any minute and I also believe that some preachers will still be in the pulpits preaching, politicians will be politicing and they'll all be trying to figure out what happened to all those people. I would urge everyone to accept the free insurance policy offered by Jesus Christ.  If I understand anything in Revelations, it is that the end times are going to be so far worse than anything we can imagine, I sure wouldn't want to be left behind.  Anyone can't help but see if reading the New Testament through and seeking understanding, that the very end times are even now beginning to be played out and this is only the beginning.  This could not have possibly been prophysized 2000 years ago without divine intervention.......that makes total sense to me.


I used to didn't think so but I am beginning to think the U.S. will play some kind of major role in the end times, either that or we will all be brought to our knees.  EVERY knee shall bow..............the thing is, will Jesus be our defense lawyer when we stand before God or will He be our prosecuting attorney?  It'll be one or the other.  My heart breaks for those who hear and refuse to believe.


I scored 54.55% - guess I need to study more.
:-)
Guess what - you can commission a STUDY to say whatever you want it to.
Oh, yes, the great evil VOUCHER. Let us all collectively shudder and quake.

I mean, what an outrage! Letting a PARENT determine what is in the best interest of THEIR CHILD. Oh my God! I mean, whoever heard of a country letting PARENTS make carefully-considered, informed DECISIONS? What's next! Letting women VOTE?! Heaven forbid! Good grief. Do you even understand how the voucher system works? Or do you just Google and let someone else do the thinking for you?

And your solution would be, what? Oh, I know.

Let's all just shove our kids in detention, surround them with barbed wire, and give them more free lunches.

That ought to provide a great crop of citizens, dontcha think?
I heard today that this study
was commissioned during the Bush administration.  However, the timing of its release seems to be no coincidence. 
what part of "Bible study" do you sm
not understand??? A Bible study is not a business meeting. This has nothing to do with taxes. I bet the people that attend the Bible study pay plenty of taxes themselves.

What next, a permit to have more than 15 people over at Thanksgiving and Christmas? Gotta pay taxes???? Please. Tupperware reps and Bible studies.........so far apart. Obviously you know nothing about a simpel Bible study.
I just read an independent study that says that only 20% of the public believe

or associate Democrats with christianity.  It's actually down and has been consistently going down.  Of course, I know a lot of Christian Democrats.  None of them seem to post here, but I know many in my private life. They are far to the right, though, like Democrats use to be


I am plenty old to vote, study all the issues, as well
nm
I suggest YOU study up on Obama's plan...sm
and see if his plan remotely resembles national healthcare in other countries. All plans are not created equal.
UCLA released a study recently that said...
that the New Deal probably prolonged the depression by at least 7 years. Are you sure that socialism is what the market needs--it is my thought that this problem was well on its way before Bush came into office--caused by the interference in the market that was already in place.
here is a link for you JTBB, study it carefully
You think BUSH STARTED THIS WAR!!! all alone he did it all himself, that dirty b*stard! but wait, if he is so so so dumb like everyone protests he is... how did he pull one THAT BIG over everyone?? yes war sucks, but QUIT with that crap you always spew that it was all his fault

http://www.freedomagenda.com/iraq/wmd_quotes.html
And: Study the comma rules and capitalize 'European'
You see, every day you learn something new, from me.

Hehehehe!
I forgot: Study some English grammar and spelling..nm
nm
I hope you can find that link. I'd love to read about that study.
Wouldn't poetic justice be served if it was discovered that the conservative brains lit up on the left side?
It is none of your business!
Mind your own business.
of course it's our business, she put herself in this
to be under a microscope.
I think that they will go out of business
when any baby boomer without insurance goes out and buys it once he/she has been diagnosed with cancer. Then, when your child needs insurance, there will be no money left to pay for him/her.
Should be NONE of YOUR business how many
nm
Gay is their business...whether or not it is a
nm
Why is that your business?
I am not being hateful or anything. I am just wondering why you consider their marriage or lack of your business?

but again - why is it your business?
If you don't like it, then don't participate in it. I don't believe that biblically gay is acceptable, but if they want to get married and live the married lifestyle, then it does not hurt me. I am not living their lifestyle and I am not participating in their lifestyle. That is their personal decision. It does not affect me or my familiy or my lifestyle one bit by what they do in their home.

I believe that we have much more important things to worry about than whether two gay people are "legally" married or not...
NO - IT IS NOT YOUR BUSINESS
I don't believe your story about 4 of your friends. Too much of a coincidence I would say. You might have just well said you had 12 or more friends who all went through the same thing.

Like the poster said above - until you walk in someone else's shoes mind your own business. People are not put on this earth to meddle in other people's lives (people you don't know) and get involved in things you have no idea about and try to push your viewpoints. News flash - your viewpoints are not always right.
Well, if you want to go into business of producing

vaccines I'll be right behind you cheering you on.  If it's such an urgent matter then why don't you do it?  Like I said, the government will give you a grant for doing it, but it won't even cover the costs of making the vaccines.  Yeah, I'm sure you're ready to fill out that grant request first thing Monday morning.


I worded the vaccine statement wrong.  I heard yesterday on the radio, when all the ADD and autism with flu shots was being discussed, the majority of vaccines are now being made overseas, because companies have to take a hit just to make them.  THEY SAID that no smallpox vaccines were being made in the U.S.  The government does not make it feasible NOR do they protect these companies from litigation.


Do you think the government needs to strong arm drug companies into making vaccines for little or no profit?  If you do then you've shifted into a whole other political view.


Business politics

You nailed it when you said business.  However, if a conservative had said the same thing you and Lurker just stated you would have disputed that.  Liberals swear up and down Murdoch is a conservative Republican, but the truth is Murdoch is all about Murdoch and what sells.  His politics is business.


I never dispute big business...sm
I know they rarely have the little guy in mind or stand on principals. Murdoch is down with the republican party right now, but he's thinking about '08 as it appears the tide is changing (bush ratings). He has told the Washington Post that he is not sure if he will back Hillary or McCain in '08. He's waiting to see how the tide rolls to see which propaganda his news engine will push.
That's her business and choice if she does, not yours.
Just because YOU wouldn't be able to handle children plus a job doesn't mean another woman wouldn't. Perhaps your energy or patience level isn't up to it, but I know plenty of women that have high-profile careers and young children and handle both beautifully. It's all about balance. Again, just because you might not be able to find that balance doesn't mean others can't.
What has Obama run by himself. What business?
nm
small business
Me and DH own a small recreation business, and quite frankly, a few years ago, when the gas prices started getting out of control is when our business started hurting. We are taxed individually, not as a corporation, so I don't see anything in O's tax plan that would hurt us. Maybe help us a bit. Most small business owners aren't making a large fortune, those are the big corporations who have so many dam@ loopholes anyway!
Besides the fact that as a new business...sm
owner does he really think he is right away going to have a $250,000 PROFIT anytime soon, if ever. Not likely.
Really who you vote for is your own business.

This way it keeps everyone happy.  Being a dem myself and being raised by republican parents, I tend to be on the fence sometimes, but I still consider myself a dem voter.  I'm no expert.  Otherwise, I'd being doing something other than MT and posting on this board. 


Your friends should appreciate the fact that it is a personal decision on your part. 


It becomes my business when they attempt to
Laws affect everyone. They don't want "rights"...they have rights. They just want to change laws to somehow prove they are legitimate, as if the fact they are human doesn't make them a legitimate human being already? I have every right to make it my business when they want to change the laws to suit their lifestyle.
OK, Now I KNOW I am in the wrong business. nm
nm
Anyone who runs a business knows there is
nm
If you are against abortion, that's your business, but...
You have got a lot of nerve comparing abortion to the Holocaust!
My morals are my business.
I am not interested in discussing my morals, especially with people who are trying to shove their morals and their religion down my throat. That's the whole point of my post. Keep your moral and religious beliefs to yourself!
A Better Business Model
If only all business owner's thought this way...

DENVER - Eleven-year FreeWave Technologies Inc. employee Melanie Duran says the wireless data radio maker is a great place to work. But you can judge for yourself.

The Boulder-based company says it has had profits every month since it hired its first employee in 1995. There have been no layoffs. Employees get company-funded retirement plans and bonuses based on profits and growth.

And there's more: As part of a $113 million private-equity investment deal in 2007, FreeWave is sharing $9 million of investors' money with its fewer than 100 employees as a reward for the company's success. Shares are divvied up based on individual performance. FreeWave refused to disclose individual payments.

The $9 million, for eligible employees who were with FreeWave when it won the investment, has been paid out in three installments. Company founders Steve Wulchin and Jonathan Sawyer are handing out the last payments Thursday.

"We're fortunate to have great bosses," said Duran, a production lead. The extra money is helping the 33-year-old close on buying her first house.

"This is something that in today's economy Steve and Jonathan don't have to do, and yet they've chosen to do it," said Tim Ake, a Navy veteran and production manager who has been with FreeWave for about five years. "That inspires me to go and do likewise," said Ake, who typically gives some of his bonuses to his church and to charity.
No business owner in their
Come on...paying back the employees that actually do the work that makes the company succeed?? Creating an atmosphere that makes the employees feel that they have made a contribution to the success of the company and acknowledging their contribution in a financial manner...that is so 1950's.
Do you own a business? If not, you don't have a clue
Small businesses are laying off right now DIRECTLY RELATED to Obama being in office. I personally know several small business owners in this town with anywhere from 50 to 200 employees and they are already laying off and anticipating laying off more BECAUSE of Obama's regulations which he is/will IMPOSE on small businesses, while all the while convincing O lovers such as yourself that job loss has absolutely nothing to do with him!

I know this for a fact! So don't be so quick to give your Obama a free pass.....

He is running this dog and pony show with disasterous results already!

You can't keep pointing your finger at Bush for the rest of Obama's term; Obama is directly responsible for ALL the mistakes he is now making.... why don't you hold him responsible???

I think we know the answer to that question, so never mind.

Then the poster should have kept her business to herself!
She murdered a baby and then comes on here with her little sob story and you boobs eat it up. Oh...you're so heroic ... oh... you're so brave.

Uh... no she's not. She's a baby killer. And if she wanted everyone to stay out of her business, she should have come on here and typed it out on a PUBLIC FORUM!!!!!!


I don't have to walk in a killer's shoes to know I'm not a killer.

If you do, then I pray for the safety of your neighbors. You're quite obviously unhinged.
None of your business, I can post
MY opinion to everything I want, as long as it is not against the rules of this forum.
You are not the owner or moderator of this forum, so do not overstep your boundaries.