Have you ever been very ill, or had a

Posted By: surgery of any kind, ... on 2008-10-07
In Reply to: He died a long, long time ago! (If he was ever - even real, to begin with).

I am just curious, if you have ever been put to sleep for surgery for instance, how does it feel to not be able to pray and have faith to hold onto? I mean, I personally cannot imagine what it must feel like to have no assurance, no joy, no comfort in knowing what is in store for me.

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Sam/Gourdpainter debate s/m - gourdpainter
- I agree, gourdpainter, to a point.... - sam
  - I agree with you, Sam in that - gourdpainter
    - Yep. If I was not absolutely convinced of what... - sam
  - FDR - hang on a minute
    - What does this have to do with Obama? - sam
      - one vote - hang on a minute
        Same to ya. I am glad you only have one vote... - sam
        yikes - hang on a minute
        What a stupid statement...racist? - sam
        What is a jive turkey? nm - dumb
        Ask ACORN. They are the ones who submitted... - sam
        The silence is deafening! For shame Sam nm - geek
        Helloo, ACORN submitted a voter... - sam
        This should be posted under the racist statement... - sam
        Ah ha, now your true colors come out - racist are we?
        See answer above. Aha. nm - sam
        not necessarily. I don't know about other states, but... - MT and worn out
        Voter fraud by democrats ...sm - ex animo
- Our pastor was talking just yesterday morning about how - wannie
  - Religious Right has already messed up too much in this - country - we need religion OUT of govm't,
    - Boy, did you sleep through U.S. History? - LT
      - Religious freedom. - And hallelujah for that.
    - Well you wouldn't want Obama then, right???? - He is "religious" ya know.....nm
    - This is the mindset and belief of the - people who want Obama
      - Born-again believers - gourdpainter
        My thing is - sbMT
        I agree - gourdpainter
        gourdpainter, my question is, why is it - that EVERY far, left wing
        Non-believers/Obama - gourdpainter
    - You're right - gourdpainter
  - I'm happy s/m - gourdpainter
    - Christianity...... - sm
      - Oh my! I have no words. Jesus would not be happy with you. - devout christian
        He died a long, long time ago! (If he was ever - even real, to begin with).
        Have you ever been very ill, or had a - surgery of any kind, ...
        Yes, he died - gourdpainter
        I don't see anyone forcing you to open posts...? - sam
        Umm, did I? What's your post got to do - with anything?
        OP said not to force beliefs on others... - sam
        How you figure that? - nm
        You obviously have no clue as to the Muslim...sm - racism abounds
        You're absolutely right....racism abounds - so does prejudice.......sm
        Self righteousness isn't appealing.... - sm
      - sPEAK THE NAME OF JESUS OUT LOUD - Judy
        I'm so glas my mind isn't hopelessly clogged up - with all that religious voodoo.
        Sad for you. - LT
        part of that comment is correct....... - sm
        Sigh - "glad" - not "glas". oy... - !
        Yeah, and rub your luck rabbit foot...sm - And wish upon a star
        Exactly who are the rest of you??? - Worth explaining? nm
        People who use their minds to decide what they do - in life, not superstition.
        So anyone that believes in God does not have - a mind? Really digging there. nm
        Not much of one, if it narrows their view - of the world so badly.
        View of the world........ - sm
        It doesn't narrow our view of the world, - gourdpainter
        yes it does - nm
        Well, it would if I thought like you....glad I - have something more.......nm
        Well, maybe so if s/m - gourdpainter
        Certainly you don't expect an answer? - sm
        Uh, the rest of us are those... sm - And wish upon a star
        evidence.......hmmmmm - sm
        Those who claim to have 'come to Jesus' as - adults were badly in need of a crutch.
        You know better deep inside, which is why you're - trying to back peddle.....nm
        I have one question - gourdpainter
        Wow you are so horribly rude - sbMT
        Well, see how you gals are? You'll flame another - poster mercilessly if they don't - sm
        Strange..... - sm
        I'm not forcing anything - sbMT
        TO SbMT - zoesnana
        A crutch is a crutch. Put 'lipstick' on it, and - it is STILL a crutch.
        What makes you think that everyone who believes in Jesus grew up in the church? - sbMT
        Amen........faith of a mustard seed!! - nm
        praying/wishing......... - sm
        Something to think about - gourdpainter
        Amazing, as I was just thinking this verse to - myself.......Amen! nm
        Thank you for posting this! - sm
        I am a sinner s/m - gourdpainter
        Isn't that what's known as 'blind faith'? - The 'Show-Me' State
        Blind faith..... - faith of a mustard seed....sm
        No need to ridicule. If you don't believe, fine.... - sam
        Rabbit's foot - zoesnana
        .....Not very lucky for the poor rabbit..... - :(
        There is every need to ridicule. sm -
        have you ever prayed? - nm
        Religion - zoesnana
        Of course. I apologize. It is the nature of the left... - sam
        No need to ridicule - cj
        There is NO need to ridicule s/m - gourdpainter
        Very well put, gpainter! :) nm - sam
        From a true nonbeliever....... - nm
        No need to ridicule, as most religious groups make - a very convincing mockery of THEMSELVES.
        And apparently they are not the only ones. nm - sam
        Quite true, when it comes to how ridiculous - you come off, with yer pomposity and all.
        Pomposity.........hmmmmmmmm - sm
- "I think everyone had better get out their Bible - and have a read of Revelations"
  - APPLAUSE! - sbMT
    - sbMT, you know what I think? - gourdpainter
      - We are very alike - sbMT
        sbMT - gourdpainter
        gourdpainter... - sbMT
        I love to study Revelations - gourdpainter
        Left behind - cj
        I did years ago n/m - gourdpainter
        No I haven't - sbMT
        when I read the first one - cj
    - I agree with one thing you said. sm - Learn some critical thinking skills.
      - facts, evidence, science, and reason - gourdpainter
      - Rational? - sbMT
    - Prayer and reading the Bible - Judy
    - If you are talking about something along the lines of Sharia law , it has already happened in the UK - MT and worn out
      - I can't wait to see what government sponsored god we will have - sbMT
        Government sponsored god - gourdpainter
        Victory in Jesus - sbMT
        That's it - gourdpainter
        Victory In Jesus!! another sou. Baptist - NM....
        Amen to that!!! - faith of a mustard seed.....nm
        Oh, you didn't get the memo? O, of course! - nm

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