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Global Warming - Geo Engineering

More and more evidence is accumulating that global warming caused by man-made greenhouse gas emissions is occurring at an accelerating rate and that changes to the Earth's climate brought about by this warming are occurring much more rapidly than previously predicted. For example, the loss of permanent sea ice in the Arctic may now be on a trajectory to reduce the summer ice pack to zero by 2040, an outcome that only a few years ago wasn't supposed to happen before 2080. For a short explanation of the science behind the global warming greenhouse effect see Global Warming Science Basics

Along with the loss of habitat for polar bears and other Arctic wildlife that this wholesale melting of sea ice would bring comes the possibility of more rapid movement of glaciers held in check by the sea ice as well as climatic changes brought about by less reflection of sunlight and greater absorption of solar radiation by the exposed sea water.

At some point, the changes in the Arctic may lead to irreversible and unfavorable changes to the global climate such that even attempts at stabilizing or cooling the atmosphere may not be able to put Climate Humpty Dumpty back together again. For example, sea level rise due to a combination of thermal expansion of sea water and melting ice sheets may not be reversible in this century, leading to loss of coastal land and massive dislocation of coastal populations.

Global attempts to reign in man-made greenhouse gas emissions are not succeeding. Countries participating in the late starting and ill-planned Kyoto Protocol are finding it difficult to meet its modest emission reduction targets, while it is now clear that non-participating countries, like the U.S. have no real plans for reducing emissions.

There is also uncertainty as to the scope and requirements of any follow on treaty to Kyoto or whether any treaty or succession of treaties will achieve the desired reductions in emissions in time. Economic mechanisms like cap and trade emission programs have yet to be demonstrated to be effective in the short term for controlling greenhouse gas emissions in the absence of alternative technologies.

Technological changes that will be required to reduce emissions will take decades to implement, if not the rest of this century, due to a combination of lack of progress in developing new technologies and the installed and rapidly growing base of emission sources that run the gamut from 550MW coal fired power plants to rice paddies. Against this backdrop of melting ice, failed treaties, uncooperative governments and lack of replacement technologies, the nascent field of geoengineering has begun to receive attention from the media and policymakers.

Geoengineering or macro-engineering is the deliberate attempt by man to alter the global or regional climate by reducing the amount of solar radiation that is absorbed by the planet, the amount of carbon dioxide (the principal greenhouse gas) that is in the atmosphere or by manipulating ocean currents to redirect heat already in the ocean-atmosphere system.

While geoengineering technologies are often viewed as science fiction or simply not doable in time to stop global warming, some can probably be developed and applied soon enough to hold off the coming global climate catastrophe and within 5-10 years.

Although unilateral action on the part of the U.S. or other nations could be taken, due to logistical and geopolitical issues, it is more likely and desirable that an internationally sanctioned and supervised effort be carried out instead.

Indeed, no single geoengineering technology should be considered as "The Solution" and instead, a portfolio of these technologies should be developed, since any one might have negative side effects or other limitations that would make it unacceptable as a stand-alone treatment.

These technologies should only be considered for use as delaying tactics, to give us time to develop replacements for technologies that produce greenhouse gases. They shouldn't and cannot be considered as alternatives to reducing emissions, since most either have a limit as to how much warming they can offset or they can only address one facet of the problem.

For example, plans have been developed to reflect or scatter sunlight to reduce the amount of solar radiation that is re-radiated as infrared radiation. Some of these plans like those involving aerosols or space borne reflectors and lenses can theoretically be carried out on a scale to match all future emissions generated warming or even to roll back previous warming, while others like the plan to cover parts of the world's deserts can only address a finite amount of warming due to a limited supply of land.

However, these proposals do nothing to stop or reverse acidification of surface ocean waters by carbon dioxide or to remove the threat posed by the carbon dioxide in the atmosphere in absorbing infrared radiation should the sunlight reflection/scattering scheme(s) be stopped. Removal of climatologically significant quantities of carbon dioxide from ambient air either by biological or chemical means is not possible with current technologies.

Various geoengineering technologies are discussed and analyzed here including those that attempt to reduce the amount of incoming sunlight that is converted to infrared radiation. Comments are welcomed.

http://www.global-warming-geo-engineering.org/

Reading these posts I am trying to understand why Gov. Palin is hated so much. I'd like to know facts (not rumors or lies). Can you provide me with answers as to why. I just don't understand it.

The conversative republicans on this board are not coming out with hate towards Obama/Biden, and I really don't see much hate towards McCain, but the actual hate is seeping out and infiltrating all of your thoughts with Gov. Palin and I cannot understand why. I've seen her interviewed. She doesn't seem too bad. She's knowledgeable about the issues and answers questions with confidence. I've also seen Obama, Biden and McCain interviewed too and I just don't understand what it is towards Gov. Palin but not the others.

Please provide facts too. Everything I am reading on this board are rumors and lies, so if you could just tell me. Even if you say you don't like her because she's pretty, or she decided to have a baby instead of aborting him, etc I don't mind answers like that because they will be truthful, but please don't tell me you hate her because of something manufacted, or for something she is not personally involved in.

I think there are a few bone fide nut jobs on this post that got a whole lot of people sucked into their delusions. Fooled me twice. Later!

going to happen (talking about issues). There are too many new ones on here now and all they want to do is name calling, pick fights, and won't try to find the truth and, sadly, it's also the way of the country nowadays. I have been appalled at the reaction lately and even ones who have been on here a long time and always posted decently are turning into the negative posters, too.

Unless the posters start following the rules of this board, I doubt it will ever change.

but these hicks that you talk about using food stamps to buy food are the same people who will benefit from Obama's presidency. It won't be hard working individuals like ourselves. This type of irresponsible behavior will be rewarded by government assistant programs at the expense of the working Americans who pay for them and who is pushing for more government programs.....why I do believe it is Barrack Obama....is it not?

As for Sarah Palin, she has done very well running Alaska and has worked her way up from the bottom to the top in her state. She wasn't born with a silver spoon in her mouth. If Sarah Palin was as ugly as Hillary Clinton is and was pro-choice, you all would be drooling over her. But because she is an attractive woman who is conservative, you ladies would rather say she has no brains because she is pretty.

How smart are we? Our country elects a man who has no experience whatsoever and when it comes to writing bills, he hands the everything over to Pelosi.

Please continue to tell me how stupid Palin is when Obama runs our country into the ground because I'm sure that will make sense to everything ignorant Obama is doing right now.

but taking control away from the taliban and giving it back to the country the taliban is trying to take over is about our freedom. The more control the taliban gets, the more power they get and the more ability they have to attack us on our own soil.

As for why we are still there....I do believe it was Obama who extended the timeline for the troops in Iraq while sending troops into Afghan. So it appears that Obama's pulling out of the troops and running back home plan didn't work out so well when he actually got into the White House and saw what was really going on.

As for the "torture" accusations, I hate to break it to ya but terrorists and pirates do not fall under protection of the Geneva Convention. We broke no law as they are terrorists and I would rather "torture" a terrorist to try and save American lives. We will never know the full story on this until all the information is released.

As for Pelosi, she is so high and mighty. If you are going to stand there and point the blame on everyone else but yourself when others claimed that you knew and did nothing.....well.....of course Pelosi is now under fire and she should be. If she truly knew about it....she is just as guilty for allowing it and not saying a word and then lying about it to make her look all pure and innocent.

However, I still say this whole thing shouldn't have happened. Those original memos should not have been released to begin with and that was something the liberal loons wanted so they could start their witch hunts on the Bush administration. If Obama really wanted to move forward he would have just said what is in the past is in the past. We can't change what happened but we move forward and will not do so again. Instead we are belittling our CIA and our troops and putting ourselves in danger while giving terrorists more power to recruit more psychotic people to their cause.

I am consumed by fear, though, over America's future, watching Supreme Court justices chosen because of religious beliefs and worshipping Bush like a god, instead of merit and qualifications, fearful that what begins with overturning Roe might end with the Supremes outlawing living wills, stem cell research, and other privacy rights to which every American citizen is entitled.

I am consumed by anger that an American president would use fear and lies to the entire world in order to wage a war that he most likely had planned before he was even elected president.

I'm consumed by frustration that after 9/11, we don't have a leader who cares enough about the safety of Americans to secure our borders, KNOWING that it's easy access for foreign terrorists to enter this country, and actually causing two states to declare states of emergency for that reason.

I'm consumed by disappointment that our top leaders have no ethics or fondness for the truth, that two (at least) high-ranking White House officials would disclose the identity of a CIA agent working on WMD, placing many lives in danger by such disclosure -- simply because her husband told the truth about the president's lies.

I'm consumed by compassion as I witness the lower-middle class sinking even lower, closer to the poverty level by virtue of the luxury commodity that gasoline/home heating oil have become in America and worry about all the old people and children who will forget what it feels like to be safe and toasty warm in the winter, assuming they can stay healthy and survive the cold days and nights they will be forced to suffer.

I'm consumed by a sense of betrayal as I watch the promise of religious freedom in America vanish before my eyes, replaced by a theocracy catering to one religious group, rendering all other religions unequal and substandard.

Yes, I'm consumed by lots of things. Hatred isn't one of them. I don't hate anyone or anything. Sadly, you and those of your ilk have cornered the market on that emotion, and I will pray for you, even if you do despise my particular God.

and read the entire thread before spouting your baseless accusations. I've struggled and am not rich monetarily. It's not my goal in life. I'm rich in other things, and with that I'm content. There are times I probably would have qualified for goverment help but I wouldn't take it. My needs got met, because I called on a higher welfare source and that's God. I in no way diminish the plight of others, and I don't think lower of others who do to get a leg up. I give to my church and other charities, and for you to accuse me of thinking or caring for others is not only pompus but a completely untrue accusation.

You said below that you don't take time off from *correcting* others, but you seriously need to take some time off and cool your jets, because you come off looking really hostile and mean.

From:Think Progress.com

Right-Wing Radio Host Advocates Murdering Border Crossers

Right-wing radio host Brian James of KFYI in Arizona recently advocated murder as a way of dealing with undocumented immigrants. An excerpt:

What we�ll do is randomly pick one night - every week - where we will kill whoever crosses the border. Step over there and you die. You get to decide whether it�s your lucky night or not. I think that would be more fun�[I�d be] happy to sit there with my high-powered rifle and my night scope.'

The remarks prompted Arizona Attorney General Terry Goddard and U.S. Attorney Paul Charlton to send a complaint to the FCC. Here�s a portion:

At no time during this hour did Mr. James disavow violence or indicate he was joking. In fact, when one caller suggested Mr. James did not really mean he wanted to shoot and kill immigrants, Mr. James retorted that in fact he did mean it. Immediately after this exchange, Mr. James engaged the next caller in a discussion about the correct ammunition to use when shooting border crossers to make sure the shots would be fatal.

This type of threatening and inciting speech is dangerous and totally irresponsible for anyone, particularly a licensed body using public airways.

Brian James has not apologized and claims his comments were �satire.� Later, for a story on the KFYI website, James said �KFYI does not advocate shooting illegals. It might be fun, but they don�t advocate it.�