Harlem dumbells is an unacceptable racist comment
Posted By: There are no 2 ways about it on 2008-11-12
In Reply to: Yes,, scream MODERATOR when you don't - like something and assume
I certainly have not made racist comments. How dare you. "anybody would have" referred to Harlem Dumbells... you know that means dumb blacks and that is racist.
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Racist comment
I agree - it was not the "Big Bad" - it WAS "anybody would have"; and this needs to STOP, it really does. We are SUPPOSED to be ADULTS - I know children with better sense - geez!!
I have NEVER seen a racist comment by Kaydie.
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I have never made a racist comment
are you serious?
Poster is making a racist comment as you well
the only reason poster will be voting for O. Has nothing to do with economy...let's all get off that and focus on the real issue. Racism. This poster is racist and wants a black man in office, plain and simle.
Very sorry but "anybody would have" posted a racist comment
WHEN WE NEED HER?
You betcha, and he sent his reporter to Harlem...
to ask the questions. I found it very interesting that not one person knew anything about Obama but his name and his race. Pretty telling.
First of all blacks AND whites live in Harlem
The ignorant comments you refer to came directly out of Harlem and was played for anyone and everyone to hear. Did you not hear the comments made by citizens there? Don't call others names if you don't know what we're talking about.
Max, are you talking to me? I said it was unacceptable - nm
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Why do you find that unacceptable when
have been made from you and others all over this board? Something that offends you is unacceptable but you don't care if you say anything to offend someone....... grow up!
Unacceptable answer for word verbiage. Do people actually let you get away with that?
You must run in really tolerant debate circles. Best stay in them. This kind of behavior is not tolerated in most political circles I know of. But it is a good example of how far we have slipped into the he said/she said atmosphere of debate in this country. Just say anything and never have to prove it. It works well for the MSM, of which you seem so fond. Well, should have known better. I am off for greener pastures and debate fields where people actually have to prove what they say. Imagine that!
Comment on Bush comment
I heard Bush this morning saying that no one predicted or knew that the New Orleans levees would give way. Well, that is not true. This was widely predicted by engineers and meteologists. The engineers predicted it for years if/when a major hurricaine hit, as well as engineers and meteorologists predicting this 1-2 days before Katrina. I even told my boyfriend last Sunday night that they were predicting some levees would break, that New Orleans would be in water the same depth as Lake Pontchartrain and that thousands could die. Gee, guess I should be a White House advisor.
My other gripe is that this federal response seems a bit slow. Like maybe Monday afternoon things should have been put into motion instead of......Thursday? But then, I'm sure not an expert.
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Racist? You calling me racist? sm
I voted for Alan Keyes. He be blacker than Obama any day.
I despise Obama not because he is called African American by the MSM but because he is a liar parading around in sheep's clothing. He says one thing to one group, contradicts himself on the same subject to another, and plays idiotic Americans like a violin.
Obama's parentage does not qualify him to be called black anymore than his foreign birth qualifies him to called an American. To say people oppose him are racist because of his skin color is preposterous when he is neither black nor African American.
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Why did you choose the Hilter comparison?
Here is what I saw in Hitler:
1. Megalomania - yes, possibly in Bush.
2. Skillful use of the propaganda of hate to unite a nation and incite a lust for war. Blaming of select ethnic group for Germany's woes -- yes, I see some similarity there, but Bush seems more like "oops, sorry I accidentlly killed you" to the Iraquis (Islam nations) rather than "I will place you in concentration camps until you are all exterminated."
3. Hitler was mentally ill but still capable of great, inspirational speeches and inspiring confidence in the masses -- Bush is kind of dopey and I'm not sure who he inspires, really, if much of anyone.
4. Hitler seemed to have an agenda to exterminate -- as mentioned, I don't see that in Bush.
Well, I had fun with this. WWII is an area that I know quite a bit about.
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Did gt actually say there were NO socialist Jews? I took her to mean that Jews in general should not be categorized as socialists. There are probably socialist Irish, socialist Catholics, socialist African-Americans....but that doesn't mean you label the entire ethnic group as such. Common sense would dictate this. Just as I keep saying, you cannot label all liberals or all democrats as having the same ideals and belief systems. You seem to keep trying to put square pegs in round holes here....or, as also has been mentioned...thinking only in black and white when the world and all its people are shades of gray. It makes me very sad to see this and I end up feeling hopeless about the future of our country and of the world.
As far as Chomsky, I haven't read tons of his writing but what I did read a few years ago I very much liked. Could it be a case of you taking some things he wrote out of context? Or perhaps some things he wrote were more fiery or radical than you were comfortable with? Perhaps you didn't survey his writings as a whole and only picked out a few you didn't like. When you make an accusation as you did, please provide examples to back up your comments.
Your comment...
I think I do your understand your point....basically you are saying his comment was taken out of context? It did seem that what I read of this quote was more that he was careless in his comments - they touched a nerve, as I said. It seemed he was looking at a cultural problem from a tongue-in-cheek statistical line of reasoning, and perhaps spoke before thinking. At least, I HOPE that's all it was. I have not read this all that carefully, I must admit. I also admit I know NOTHING about him personally or his past.
Thanks for your intelligent commentary.
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Obviously your beliefs bring you solace and comfort and that is a benefit that religion offers, in my opinion, and that is very good if it helps you.
However, perhaps you should not generalize. I was a hospice worker as well as watching my mother die from cancer. She was a life-long agnostic and I don't believe it ever even crossed her mind to call out to Jesus or Zeus or any other deity. She made the most graceful exit from this world I have ever seen and was at peace with that process.
I do agree though that in times of extreme stress many folks may want to enlist the aid of a higher power, but please don't assume that we all turn to Jesus.
Just a comment
Does this apply to anyone who helps a specific region? That would certainly limit a lot of programs that target specific groups of the poor. So when President Johnson launched his War on Poverty targeting Appalachia he should have been required to live there? I am just so happy to see interest and help provided for the most downtrodden sectors of our society (as well as worldwide) that I can see no good reason to require that the folks contributing have to change their place of residence.
Had to comment
The story about your prescriptions rings so true! My insurance company sends me these little papers after every x-ray, lab test, etc. that outlines what I paid, what they paid, and whether or not the price was reduced. I had blood tests that I was initially told cost $1,150. (I almost passed out!) After a few months of arguing with the insurance company and the lab, I get one of these little papers that says my $1,150 bill was knocked down to $150 - without my insurance paying anything. The lab went ahead and reduced the price since my insurance was obviously not going to pay for it. I've had this done with hospital bills, too. I just love looking at those numbers. Someone is making a HUGE profit somewhere for them to be able to cut the price down that much. Kinda like when I worked in retail and I got to see the difference between what the store paid to the manufacturer and what the price tag said. Sometimes I'd almost rather not know...
Just another comment
I've been watching all stations of the news. I'm not voting for Obama. I don't trust him. I also don't trust McCain and not voting for him. I'm sure I will write in someone's name. With that said I have seen no "love fest" with Obama (watch CNN, MSNBC, and FOX). I'm not seeing this "love fest", however it was so obvious with Clinton. It was so obvious and so nauseating that I always had a bucket nearby to retch in.
As for McCain..who is saying that he is supposed to "hide" the fact that he was tortured. I've never heard that on any station. However, McCain keeps playing it over and over and over. This is not the Vietnam war and I don't care what anyone says...just because he was tortured doesn't make him qualified to be President. What makes some qualified is having your "faculties" together. Know what country you are talking about and know what's going on with the countries. DH and I were looking at each other funny when he's talking about Iran and says the Israeli people and vice versa. He doesn't know where the Taliban are, and for sure he has no idea or plans to get this country back on its feet. He is a war mongerer and that's all he's planning for. If its not one country he'll start up a war somewhere else. It's what he thrives on.
As for September 11th - the truth will come out one day and people will be shocked and in denial.
First of all, i appreciate very much your comment...
about her daughter.
That being said...there are women in high places who have young children. I do not think that precludes Sarah Palin from serving. She has been managing as governor, including firing the state chef because she wanted to cook for her own kids.
JFK had young children. Both John and Caroline were very young. Jackie did a fine job raising them. They were/are fine young people.
the difference is that Sarah is VP, not president, and her husband will be taking a larger role. There are a lot of husbands who stay at home more to take care of children because of the wife's career. I don't remember how old amy carter was...13 maybe?
At any rate, that is not an issue for me. Those children seem happy and well adjusted after their mom being a mayor and then a governor, and I have no reason to believe they will suffer if she is VP.
I think that just brings her closer to understanding career women, who can have both without excluding the other. I think that makes her closer to mothers, period. She understands.
But that is just my opinion...and you are certainly entitled to yours.
Just a comment
Having offspring is not the only reason to get married as your post suggests (not saying it says that, just saying it "suggests" that). You said "If same-gender marriage was to be then where would there be offspring". There are a lot of man/women couples who cannot have children (like me), should that have stopped us from getting married? Loving a person and wanting to spend the rest of your life with them and share the same rights every other human being get to have should be the basis for a marriage. Just leave the offspring to couples who can have kids. The world will still be fruitful and multiple.
Well, my comment on that is ---
If you don't believe in abortion and you don't believe in gay marriage, then don't get an abortion and don't get married to a gay person, and you will still get to pay less taxes!
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(Basically, Russia wants to be able to trust the USA again but is deploying "short-range missiles near Poland to counter U.S. military plans in Eastern Europe" in response to Bush's missile placement in Poland and the Czech Republic.)
From:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081105/ap_on_re_eu/eu_russia_medvedev
After the speech, the Kremlin announced Medvedev had congratulated Obama for winning the U.S. presidency, saying in a telegram he was "counting on a constructive dialogue with you on the basis of trust and taking each other's interests into account."
So, no comment on JTP?
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I think we both know better so why should your comment
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Thanks. I appreciate this comment.
I was beginning to think I was hallucinating hate speech after hours and hours of defending the other side of the coin. Guess that means I should pack it in for the night. After all, the Israelis will still be attacking Gaza in the morning and I guess it wouldn't hurt to say a few prayers, begging for mercy and hoping the gound invasion will not take place.
My comment is to anyone
who lived that carefree, don't worry about tomorrow attitude that got them in the situation they are in now. Who in their right mind would agree to an interest-only mortgage, an ARM, or any other harebrained idea to own a home. I am more irritated with the ones who knew they made $50,000 a year and bought a $300,000 home and can now plead stupid and irresponsible and the gov't will bend over backwards to help them out. I am sick and tired of my money going to those who have no clue as to how to manage money, can't better themselves without the gov't helping out, and just plain expect someone else to pay for their mistakes. Believe me, I am tender hearted, feel for the children, etc, I don't want to see anyone lose their home but for cryin' out loud, take some responsibility and quit blaming the lenders; they did not FORCE people to buy homes. Sure, they made an attractive offer, but that does not preclude common sense going right out the window just because you want something. Shelter is a right; owning a home is a privilege when you can afford it.
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he is a racist
This is racist and disgusting. Sounds like Hitler's plan..get rid of the *problem people* . Sixty years later, get rid of the black babies. Who has spoken out about this remark..democrats..you dont hear a peep from republicans.
he is a racist
Because one man states he isnt does not mean he isnt. For a thought to even enter his head like that shows he is a racist. What good straight thinking person would say or think something like that. Rather, lets think of ways to offer opportunities to black babies and children so when they grow up they will have had a good education and be able to get into college..but to abort them, OMG.
Racist, racist, racist....
that's how liberals try to shut anyone down when they talk about any minority...say something you don't like and they're a racist or a liar.
Liberals are the ones stirring up the race pot in this country by inventing racism in every shadow.
Go sell stupid somewhere else...
He is not a racist. sm
I don't know about the liar but I do feel he can be a chauvanist. You have your opinion and I have mine.
What a racist!
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He's a racist?
Does he hate half of himself then? He was raised by a white mother, so maybe it is some deep-seated hatred of his mother. That's bizarre thinking.
Racist, much?
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what is racist about that?
monkey???
I never said I was racist.....you did
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you were right.....ur a racist!
why shouldnt a black man run for president? I guess Obama should have said to himself, "Gee, I really would like to be president but I shouldn't run because I'm black and someone might not like that." Ya right. Why should it even be an issue? I think that your issues with the O stem from some racism for sure otherwise you wouldnt have even made that comment.
I don't think she is a racist. s/m
I agree with her. Use your head.
What is racist about that?
It is equally as racist to vote FOR someone because of their color as to vote AGAINST someone for the same reason.
What is racist about it?
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Yep I am such a racist
I grew up in Orlando where no one gave a darn about skin color. I had black, white, asian, hispanic, etc etc friends. Loved them all dearly and still do. I moved to South Georgia and it's like stepping back in time 50 years.
I don't give a hoot about skin color. What I do care about is the fact that there is NO SUCH THING AS EQUALITY.
It's time to get over the past. When you are walking around in name brand clothes and wearing gold jewelry and driving a nice car, don't tell me that I owe you because your great grandmother was a slave.
Not to mention my family never even had slaves, but I'm supposed to feel bad and feel like I should owe them.
People should be treated as people, not colors. There shouldn't be a box to mark white, black, etc. There shouldn't be extra points given just because you are "different".
When I was in the 3rd grade my best friend and I were tested for the gifted program. We scored exactly the same, one point below the accepted level. But, because she was Hispanic, she was given an additional 2 points, which put her in. Why is that fair? (I passed the next year with flying colors).
Judge away, I don't care anymore. Reverse racism is so prevalent in this country it's disgusting. We aren't improving, we are just reversing!
What is racist about it?
It seems to me they are calling him an ape which is obviously not a human, and; therefore, cannot be a member of a particular race. What are you inferring here? I'm very curious.
You know, this may very well be racist
Or it may not. Of course anything that even could remotely be racist is deemed as such.
When I was a freshman in high school I got in huge trouble because in gym we were trying to play a serious game of volleyball and the other team (both black and white) kept jumping all over the net and I hollered "I wish ya'll would quit jumping all over the net like a bunch of monkeys!" Had absolutely nothing to do with race, much like my dad would say "you monkeys get off the bed" when me and my brother would jump on the bed. BUT of course, it was deemed racial, and I had to go through a whole big hoopla of going to the principals office and then my dad had to come in for a conference and I had to miss a game (not to mention the two days of school I missed dealing with all this).
What was the end result?
"Oh, I guess she didn't mean it racially."
(Is there a smiley that smacks it's forehead??)
All I'm saying is, we don't need to be so quick on jumping on everything as racial. I mean I saw a posting the other day (I'll have to see if I can find it) about monkeys doing our job. Does that mean they were saying "our job is so easy blacks could do it"? Nope.
I don't believe this is racist.
First of all, Obama didn't write this bill. Secondly, if evolution is true, we all are descedants of monkeys. I'm so tired of the race card being thrown out there for every little thing. If people were smart enough to know who actually wrote this, they would know this wasn't aimed at Obama. Yes, Obama signed the bill but he didn't write it. So stop twisting things into racial issues so we can all say....oh...poor president obama....everybody is picking on him because he is black.....even though technically he is only half black....but whatever. 
This is racist
As a black person I take offense to what you wrote. Yes it is about race and always will be. Most voters who voted for him voted for him only because he's black. They didn't know his policies and still don't. I know most of the kook-aid drinkers don't like to admit that and want to truly believe that every single soul who voted for him was well versed on his policies. Sorry to disspoint...they voted for him because he's black.
Yes it will always be about race because that is what Obama is making it about. Speech after speech after speech he talks about his race. And those who deny that are just big fat liars.
But you've got that backwards because the Nazi's are now in power. KKK is long gone (sorry to disappoint you). White supremacists? You mean like the Black Panthers?
Yes, you are racist......
I voted for him because W had wreaked enough havoc on this country and McPalin was a freakin' joke! I don't care if he is PURPLE! So, spout your lies.
I did not say YOU were a racist
To be racist. That does not include everyone. But there are definitely a LOT of people who definitely don't like him because he is black.
Some are racist and just don't realize it because it is so deeply ingrained in their socioeconomic culture.
I'll take the ignorant comment
as a compliment....believe or not I do read a lot and from different perspectives. What people like you can't stand is that some people don't take the same perspective as you. If you want to live in a doom and gloom and defeatest mindset go ahead...you are certainly free to do so, but calling me ignorant for my perspective on the whole situation shows that you cannot accept other's views on the whole subject. Again, where's the tolerance and understanding? 
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