Haha - I was talking about firing people who disagree with her
Posted By: MTpockets on 2008-09-12
In Reply to: hello? the statement that the woman - sm
but you must know her personally regarding that issue.
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Haha! It always seems the people with the biggest flag-
People who disagree...
do not necessarily have their heads in the sand. They disagree. You do realize that the majority of Americans, according to your assessment, have their heads in the sand. Most of us want out of Iraq and it is not because of heavy-handed tactics of scaredy cat liberals. As I have said many times, we have no clout whatsoever with this administration. So if we are not **allowed ** to **win** whatever that means this **war** undeclared, it will not be because of liberals. It will be because it was a flawed plan from the beginning, starting in 1997 with PNAC which now has 1 employee by the way, and a website. They have given up trying to be the cops of the world which leaves Bush and Cheney the last 2 die-hards standing. And MacDill is still talking draft. They have been for some time, said it would not be seriously debated until after the election and, guess what, we are talking about it. Don't see how the military can be bulked up without it.
I am truly sorry that any of you on the right equate not wanting to fight, not wanting to kill, eshewing revenge shrouded as justice and preferring diplomacy to preemptive attacks with **lily-liveredness.** I see those as strength of character, the courage of conviction and fairhandness. No need for you to comment on this because I already know **I have my head in the sand** and do not need to hear you tell me again what a naive person I am, but they are my beliefs and I honor them and are proud of them because, no matter what happens, they are good and decent values and Iraq will not change my mind or my values.
Merry Christmas to all, Mitakuye Oyasin (we are all related) A happy Hannukah, Kwanza, winter solstice and whatever other holiday may be observed at this time of the year and to those who observe. May 2007 be a genuine new beginning. Aho.
And last but not least, in the immortal words of Bob Dylan, **What's so funny about peace, love and understanding..**
And to all a good night.
I posted the story above....about the firing...
check it out.
Well, she is going to be second chair with limited experience...not first chair. She has one term governing a state...which gives her more governing experience than Obama. I saw his campaign said that McCain had put a person with zero foreign policy experience a heartbeat away from the presidency. Well, his campaign is putting a guy in the first chair who has very little foreign policy experience. To me, that is the pot calling the kettle black big time. They would do well now to just leave the experience thing alone.
As to pro life and pro death penalty...can't answer that for her. How can you be pro choice and against the death penalty? It goes both ways. Killng is killing. I know many pro choicers who are against the death penalty. A good many of them. Frankly, I don't see a convicted murderer the same way I see an innocent child whose only crime might be Down's. That being said, I do not myself support the death penalty, a personal decision. The Bible does say that basically you should follow the law of the land...which is why most Christians don't do anything illegal against abortion. And while we have an abortion law on the books, we also have capital punishment laws on the books. I can't speak for Governor Palin; I don't know what her rationale is for supporting the death penalty.
Typical response. If people disagree, the name-
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I'm not talking about innocent people
I'm talking about people who raping, pillaging, setting fires, shooting rescuers, and stealing ambulances. I have heard of no one but you defending this though I'm sure there's a minority fringe like you who are such as Molly Ivins etc. I think your post revealed to me how out of the mainstream of thinking you are.
By the way, New Orleans had one of the highest crime rates in the country before the hurricane. There are people from that city who are freely admitting that there were places you didn't want to be caught dead in.
Honestly you don't believe there is evil in the world. I really feel sorry for you for that, because one day you will most likely be a victim and then you will be very confused....
I'm tired of talking to hateful people
it's all about winning to you. I get it. Guess what your agenda lost in 04...so I guess that explains your bitterness. Sore losers the bunch of you. You can stay over here have your little pep rally about how you are going to take over soon....it's all about one upmanship. You can care less what is good for this country. You all are the kings and queens of attack. Look on your board and see how much debate is going on, hardly any...it's all a Bush and conservative hate-fest. I can debate ALL DAY LONG, but I won't be made fun off and attacked by pure idiots....yeah I said it, idiots!!
No, I'm talking about Iraq. You people are vile.
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Unfortunately, you're talking to ignorant people!
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I had heard people talking about her sleeveless outfits
What in the heck is this all about? Do we not have enough to worry about besides nonsense this which means absolutely nothing? I cannot believe a discussion would even be going on. She has nice arms, show them off, other first ladies have as well, Jackie O, Mrs. Reagan, anyone who had decent looking arms. This is a nonissue and I think anyone who says differently probably just jealous of her good looking arms. Enough said.
And I still disagree. We shall agree to disagree. But....
welome to the board! A new voice is welcome, whichever side the voice decides to fall. :)
haha
nastiest poster on the board - I am glad you have accepted your new name with grace Gladfly! You made me smile ;-)
Peace.
Haha where can I get one of those??
Sorry just thought it was funny :)
C'mon, you know that if McCain/Palin wins you guys and gals who voted for Obama/Biden will want one too!
haha
Getting a little defensive. Looks like Joe caught onto your game, just like many of us on this board have. Maybe you should re-read your posts. Hahah!
HaHa I get it...
it's spreading the wealth! The yard had two, so if she gets one, then they both have one!! :)
Haha. Sorry.
I guess I'm just so, so, so tired of seeing all of this question about Obama's birthplace silliness (and I haven't really spoken out about it at all until now). I just assumed you were questioning the entire judgment, because I was prepared for someone to do that. But you know what happens when you assume.
My bad. Sorry.
HaHa
that is good! I've heard that before with other names in place of theirs, can't think of who (I think Cheney and someone).
I just can't imagine Obama duck hunting though!
BTW I got an early birthday present this week from my mom...a new shotgun, so now I don't have to be my hubby's bird dog when we go dove hunting! :)
I hope I get to use it before they're all taken away! LOL
And with the cost of meat at the supermarket right now you better bet your bottom dollar we are eating a whole lot of dove and deer this year!
Still no crow though.... ;)
Haha! And the truth is...
...the conservatives weren't interested in discussing issues on the old board, they got their jollies by harrassing and persecuting anyone THEY perceived as a liberal. Talk about label-slapping. Once you were diagnosed, look out - the subject of the whole board became get the liberal.
I suspect the board was separated because the Cons wouldn't leave the monitors alone, wanting this liberal and that liberal kicked off the board. They also screamed incessantly that they wished all the lousy liberals would leave them alone! So they got their wish:) They have their own board, but apparently they bore one another silly and have to come here to bother us, proving that they really did like it more the way it used to be.
Now they cry that it was the liberals' fault - LOL - despite the fact they wouldn't allow any liberals to stay on the board for more than a few weeks at a time. They complained once too often and got just a little too bold about it, and now, well - we have been separated. The liberals seem to like this arrangement, I know I do. Look at who's griping about it and you'll find the real source of the original trouble.
haha.... that's pretty LOW! That should be
(Though the latter does more closely resemble my own yearly income......)
Haha - see what I mean? It's like an OCD thing
Oh my! haha - you took the words right out of
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haha..... and your point is?..........
haha, yep, she's a real peach
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Haha... ain't she a piece of work?
Haha...."Caribou Barbie" at her best!
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SNL fan? conehead/cornbread? HaHa. nm
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haha reply to my own message
i did NOT see her imply is what i meant to say.
Haha! American Woman rocks.
haha--I agree with Luker completely--
This War against Christmas stuff is asinine! What a perfect way to take people's minds the real issues affecting our country (like Bush and Cheney trying to expand the powers of the presidency). People have always said happy holidays as long as I can remember and I'm almost 50 myself. BIG DEAL!!
Haha, these aggressive posts are too funny...
one thing to be assertive but these nasty comments, too much, and way too typical...outta here, good luck TTP
Haha - I guess this poster goes to bed with the chickens
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seem to recall someone else protecing herself again a WITCH...haha
hmmm, real sound judgment there. So if Palin wins and decides to seek advice from shamans or witchdoctors, you are okay with that?
haha - like half the nation is planning on doing!
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Haha! I so agree, she summed it up in 1 sentence, there is nothing more to say!..nm
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Haha - how 'bout "rich peoples' fat wallets first?"
When McBush is talking, he isn't talking to you unless you are wealthy or CEO
who provides campaign funds. Do you know why lobbyists are making the headlines? Because they are bribing the politicians of both parties - lobbyists work for private interests (AIPAC) along with the pharmaceutical company ($280.00 for a bottle of pills? Only in America, folks), oil industry (record profits at your expense) credit card companies and unethical banking procedures (Funny isn't it how Visa wrote the reformed BK bill, making virtually everyone end up in ch 13 (garnishing income, including SS) after raising credit limits and offering transfer balances at 0 percent to everyone with a last name and a roof over their head? Along with mtgs that were bound to turn into bad loans when house prices dropped which they always do after a bubble. God, I could go on and on here but I get tired. The nation is in such trouble. Serious serious trouble. There is a huge loan to an unfriendly country (did you watch the Olympics? did you ever see Bush look more uncomfortable other than during the Stephen Colbert roast during the national press conference. lol.
Well I want you to know what fascism. And I want you to know that those treasury notes are backed up by the taxpayers (you) and real estate including roads and govt buildings and parks. Have you noticed why Save-Mart Center is owned by savemart and not a community business or the community itself? There is somethign happening slowly and surely and it is NOT going to benefit middle class america one iota. You must know that as a poor person, you have no power, no voice. Elections are rigged and the politicans cease to care whether you like them or not - oh wait, that has already happened.
THINK ABOUT THIS!!!! Your 401Ks and investments/assets are what at are stake!
Fascist governments nationalized key industries and made massive state investments. They also introduced price controls, wage controls and other types of Soviet-style economic planning measures.[12] Property rights and private initiative were contingent upon service to the state.[13].[14] Fascists promoted their ideology as a "third way" between capitalism and Marxian socialism.[15] Fascists in Germany and Italy claimed that they opposed reactionaries, and that they were actually revolutionary political movements that fused with conservative social values.
Talking to them is talking to a brick wall.
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I am, not talking about Clinton, I am talking
about the torture of prisoners, crimes against the Geneva conventions.
It seems that you did not read the last sentence in my former post.
Are you saying that crimes from the near past should all be forgotten?
Disagree..sm
It takes a heartless person to say that the 9-11 widows are doing this for money. WHAT MONEY??? The insurance policy? Stop kidding yourself. Losing a love one and gaining an insurance policy is not everyones object of affection. This is the same effect of a mother losing her child to a drowning and then pushing for swiming safety, or victim of a sex predator pushing for tougher sex laws.
As far as Hillary, I think she is just as outraged as anyone else should be at Ann's comments, and the fact that Ann gets media coverage to tout this stuff is just as mind numbing.
All you said about Ann I agree, plus add hatred, evil, and prejudice and you have her pegged.
disagree here also
Colter is a hatemonger, thats all. I heard every hour of AL Franken's program and he never said anything outrageous like she/it. Al Franken was quite witty and entertaining and merely give his listeners the facts that were suppressed elsewhere. He was on the story about Asian factory workers forced to have abortions by their American bosses way before other outlets were discussing it. Really!! Stop trying to pull the wool ....
I would have to disagree with you.
No surprise there right?
I would like to note that all social reform to take place in the United States has been at the heels of a liberal movement. From our breaking off with Britain in the mid 1700s, to civil war in the mid 1800s, and the liberal movement of the mid 1960s. Liberalism as a belief has moved from Republican to Democrat and back again more than once. Taking your stance on pro-life and moving it to the time of mid 1800s would put you for all intents and purposes under the Democratic wing.
As the saying goes, complacency breeds contempt, and I believe that we are now in the beginnings of another liberal movement. A little quicker than our 100 year mark, but with the speed that the world is changing, so must we.
We as a people and government have to embrace change, that is the true nature of liberalism.
Realistically, your views/postings justify the label. You may not wish it, but by just expressing them promotes it. The fact that you have never mentioned the remote possibility of voting Democrat, which at this point in our history leans toward the liberal, and only looking at the Republican party is labeling. If you did not want to be labeled or wish not to be, you wouldn't be so quick to make your conservative opinions heard.
As I frequently tell my husband, if you get too caught up in the details, you will lose the bigger picture, which usually leads me to telling him that he gets in his own way more often than not. 
I disagree
First these are pics of him NOT in his uniform. True, there are some pics of him in his uniform in some of the ads, but others he is in civilian clothes. It gives me the same feeling as when I went to the health food store and spent $50 for a large can of protein powder and got got home and the can was half empty. I call it "deception". I also think by reminding us of his time in the service he is reminding us that he was a POW and he's got a grudge against people in other countries and he's going to use his position for revenge. That's what I see when I'm reminded of his uniform.
Second - his mind. No it's not a cheap shot, its the truth. Everytime he speaks he misstates himself. When talking about the countries at work he gets the different countries mixed up and has got to constantly be correct by Lieberman or others standing around him. When asked about his voting record on important issues he can't remember how he voted and he even stated so. One time he said "I can't remember how I voted on that issue". It was an important issue and I looked at my DH and said what does he mean he can't remember, how would you forget something like that. So I think the state of his mind is an important factor in whether I will vote for him.
As for Obama...I was not talking about Obama in my post. I was talking about McCain, but since you brougnt it up, sure there are things I may not like about him but his speaking ability and remembering important issues are not one of them. Saying he can't make speeches without a teleprompter or planned statement is just not true. He has spoken at several events without a teleprompter or prepared speeches and he can think on his feet just fine. I didn't hear him stumble over questions given by audience members or media. I'm sure you probably heard that from some conservative programs like Fox or Rush Limbaugh.
i must disagree
I have read many of his columns. He is a right wing extremist.
Disagree....
...and really, just have to laugh out loud.
Sarah Palin has more experience than Barack Obama. Just wait and watch.
Every time, every person, be in on Obama's own team, Obama himself, Biden, or you for that matter....say that she has no experience....
Well guess what? She has more leadership experience than Obama.
She has been in charge and running a government.
She has been the governor of Alaska since 2006.
She was the mayor of a city, Wasilla, Alaska.
So I ask you. How can you, or anyone out there, sit there and say she has no experience to be VP....when you have a candidate running for President who has even less experience for her.
Explain that one to me.
And while you're doing that, think about how bad Obama will look every single time anyone, anywhere, brings up her lack of experience....as that will only highlight and reinforce his own, sadly lacking leadership background and experience.
Disagree. sm
I feel the reason New Orleans went under was because the National Guard, tanks, etc. were all in Iraq.
Doesn't it bother you that Palin actually said, her son was going to Iraq to fight the people that attacked us? Clueless.
I agree that McCain is a war hero, so is my dad, but he certainly is not qualified to be President.
I have to disagree with you on that.
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and I disagree with you so
maybe we both will be kicked off too for disagreeing.
Sam does research before posting an answer to some of the statements told here, then posts the links so we can all see what is the truth, not just a few. Anyone who cares anything about this country would do the same. It's not rocket science. The problem is some people on this board don't care to listen. They're right and everybody else is wrong.They think sam is attacking them personally, when he/she is not, just stating FACTS, not untruths.
Sorry, OT, but I must disagree
The liberal media would be analyzing his choice till the cows came home.
Well, I disagree. s/m
Did you miss the part where he said, "I'm the decider."? His old buddy Richard (message says *ick is a bad word.........well, on that we can agree) is guilty right along with him. I do not think history will be kind to him. But then it WAS kind to FDR until the republicans came out with their "study" to excuse the fact that Hoover was, before Bush, acknowledged to be the worst president in history.
I say while you're putting Palin on her dogsled back to Alaska, hitch up a couple of longhorns and point Bush and Cheney back to Texas. Trouble is I don't think Texas wants them.
Again, you and I disagree.
While I do not agree with you, I do respect your right to your opinion.
disagree, because
McCain has plenty of energy to get the job and more done; and Palin has more experience than even Obama... Yes, our govn't has lots of checks and balances, but if you put a democratic pres in, with a democ house and democ senate, you have a steamroller effect and dem's have not been very good about 'reaching across the aisle'. Besides, some of the "changes" that may occur in an obama reign may take decades to un-do (appointments of judges for example) and if it makes our country more unsafe and we suffer an enemy attack, that's irreparable damage to lives, and longterm for economy, etc. What about all the jobs lost with his economic (so-called:) plan, and taxation which will hurt small business and cost jobs? (100% of job growth has been in small business) How many more will lose homes, etc under Obama after losing their jobs? How screwed up will our healthcare system become? No, i want a safe USA, i want a stable growing economy, etc and will vote McCain.
I disagree
McCain is not throwing people off his bus because they don't report him in a good light.
McCain is not banning newspaper interviews because they ask him serious questions.
McCain is not banning networks because they ask him serious questions.
The O is doing all of this.
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