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Here, here! Couldn't have said it better myself! We ALL have our own personal experiences with illegals. Where is the mention of all the illegals that come here with drugs, and murder and rape our people?! Did I mention the pedophiles?! Just watch the news and it's all over the place! Just yesterday, they were talking about an illegal from Mexico in SanFrancisco that killed a father and his 2 boys, over a traffic incident!!!??? He was part of a gang! He previously was in trouble with the law before, and nothing was done! Now 3 people are dead, and a wife and 2 other children are forever torn apart by this low-life piece of sh*T that couldn't care LESS about life, liberty, and the pursuit!!!! Same story just a few months ago in LA. Another gang member (illegal) shot a young teen and he is now dead! These are just 2 of the MANY stories out there! Even the people that are coming here "for a better life", I can understand that. What I don't understand is them coming here and getting FREE medical, FREE housing, etc. etc. etc.... Why the hell are THEY entitled, but we, as natural-born citizens are not, because we may "make too much money?!" My dad is 62 years old, and probably will work till the day he dies, because he isn't "entitled" to any of this, he doesn't have savings or 401K to fall back on. My husband busts his butt, and pays a LOT of $ every month so that we all have medical, why? so they can come here and drop a kid for free, at the expense of OUR tax dollars?! BS!!! You wanna come here, fine! Then WORK for your OWN medical, housing, food, etc. etc.! I agree with the above, as for the lawbreakers, molesters, murderers, gang-bangers, let them all rot on an island together! And don't come here and wave your Mexican flag, or any other flag for that matter! If you went to other countries with your American flag, you would most likely be shot!

simple view of politics. I would think that if a bad bill is being put on the table, that enough politicians will see that it is bad and will vote against it, i.e. the bailout bill.

keep the 10 Commandments in church too. Then we could just go around raping, killing, stealing, lying, whatever we felt like doing. I believe 76 some odd percent of the U.S. describes their religion as Christianity. We let Madeline O'Hair or whatever her name is take away prayer in schools, etc. etc. I am sick to death of this p.c. stuff. If someone wants to be an atheist or muslim or what the heckfire ever, let 'em be. If they don't want to participate with the MAJORITY then I don't know of any law that makes them.

"we're set up, unlike other states in the union, where it's collectively Alaskans own the resources. So we share in the wealth when the development of these resources occurs."

Since you call yourself FeFiFo, your last name must be Fum? Or is it Pfffffft? I know you use that as a sign off a lot. Doesn't sound Jewish at all to me. LOL. First of all, *sm* is not a moniker; it simply means *see message.* And so what if he/she doesn't use a moniker?

Using a moniker isn't cowardly, it's protecting one's identity....that is unless you want to be considered cowardly as well since you do the same thing.

Try sticking to the subject for a while. *SM* (assuming it's the same person throughout this thread) has brought up some very interesting ideas concerning the situation, and yet the only response you have to these ideas (the other side) as well as mine (basically just backing up *SM*) is to call us ignorant. I thought this was a board for discussion, not a board for the 4-year-old *it's mine -- no it's mine* tantrum you seem to want to throw.

research and find out who voted for what and wanted what speciality added to the stimulus and when we get the chance......VOTE THEM OUT OF OFFICE! If we start holding them accountable and voting them out for their bad decisions, maybe these politicians will think twice before they screw their constituents up the rear.

This whole thing disgusts me. Here we are talking about our economy and the need to stimulate it and all some in government care about is getting free stuff for them. We want new furniture. Hey...let's all set a good example for the environment and charge new hybrid vehicles for the government to the tax payers. Correct me if I'm wrong.....don't they make enough money to buy their own hybrid cars if that is what they want?

I'm seriously considering the whole trip to DC with my torch and pitchfork. I'm getting VERY irritated with our government. If this so called stimulus package passes, I will be taking a trip. That is all I've got to say.

she couldn't answer O'Reilly's questions because he wouldn't shut up long enough for her to get it out. That's how it always works on his show. I really don't see the point of anyone going on his show. He doesn't interview people, he just screams out his right wing crazy crap. It's like watching Jerry Springer.

The no spin zone ---- Good for right wing books, screaming matches, and, of course, door mats.

You're going with the back-peddling New York Post excuse that that's supposed to be Pelosi? Give me a break!

If they, and you, are going to be racist, you should at least have the balls to admit it. --- Pitiful.

You also can't "grasp the idea" that there are people in this country who are starving, or people who are losing their homes because of medical bills, or younger people who are simply struggling for everything, or people who are paying through the nose to get their kids through college, and yes, actually have to put off for a few days buying some things. You really need to open your eyes. There are people in this country who cannot afford the finer things in life. We have 2 jobs and work overtime but we can't afford vacations most the time, certainly cannot save 600 a month, etc. Let me define "snooty" for you: The act of looking down one's nose and condemning those who are not as fortunate (or lucky) as oneself. I personally would have chosen a different word.

I wouldn't stay in that glass house too long if I were you. Someone might come by with a rock.

group of "commentators." The problem here is that you are trying to compare Beck with Barbara Walters, an investigative journalist, who for years did not express her personal views, but does so now that she is on a talk show. I repeat --- A TALK SHOW.

Glenn Beck is, by his own admission, also a commentator. However, he is "spewing" his junk on the news. Did you notice his first answer to the question of whether or not he checked his facts? That was a big NO from him.

And why did they get on him? How about making up lies for no apparent reason? What was the point of doing that? I personally think the guy has some serious issues.....mentally, that is. He has all the classic signs....crying spells, simulating death by gas can, etc.......LOL.

I wasn't giving Conyers a free ride. I was saying that him letting his wife take the fall for this (as opposed to owning up to whatever dealings he had in the matter, which I'm sure is the case) is bad....just as bad, if not worse, than cheating on your wife.

I'm not trying to distract from anything. You just seem to want to start an argument.

Poll: Give Bible story of creation equal time

In a finding that is likely to intensify the debate over what to teach students about the origins of life, a poll released Tuesday found that nearly 66 percent of Americans say that creationism should be taught alongside evolution in public schools.

The poll found that 42 percent of respondents hold strict creationist views, agreeing that living things have existed in their present form since the beginning of time.

In contrast, 48 percent said they believed that humans had evolved over time; of those, 18 percent said that evolution was guided by a supreme being, and 26 percent said it occurred through natural selection.

In all, 64 percent said they were open to the idea of teaching creationism in addition to evolution, while 38 percent favored replacing evolution with creationism.

The poll was conducted July 7 to 17 by the Pew Forum on Religion and Public Life and the Pew Research Center for the People and the Press. The questions about evolution were asked of 2,000 people; the margin of error is 2.5 percentage points.

The poll showed 41 percent of Americans want parents to have the primary say over how evolution is taught, compared with 28 percent who say teachers and scientists should decide and 21 percent who say school boards should.

Asked whether they believed creationism should be taught instead of evolution, 38 percent were in favor, and 49 percent were opposed. Those who believe in creationism said they were very certain of their views (63 percent), compared to those who believe in evolution (32 percent).

The poll also asked about religion and politics, among other things. Respondents agreed in nearly equal numbers that nonreligious liberals have too much control over the Democratic Party (44 percent agreed), and that religious conservatives have too much control over the Republican Party (45 percent agreed).