Great! YOU support it. Here's hoping McCain...
Posted By: sam on 2008-08-26
In Reply to: You know what I love about your posts? sm - Crackle
gets elected and yanks federal funding for abortions. There are certainly enough of you pro choicers to pay for it. Pro lifers shouldn't have to. Keep sending those checks. See how long Planned Parenthood hawks abortion if they aren't making a killing while they are killing. But, as one of the posters said to me...all of your pro choicers put your money where your mouth is and support the choice financially. Works for me. Send two checks. Send a check every week. Heck, put them in your will. lol.
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Hoping we can save our great country from going down the toilet...sm
and desiring to bring about real CHANGE from a worn out, tired system of doing things, perhaps implementing changes that could save the economy, save the American people who have been hurt by a President who run the country doing "same ole, same ole," watching us crash and burn for someone else to clean up....yes, how DARE anyone run on that platform. The sky if falling, we are all going to sit here and point fingers and cry about it, do nothing or the same things that got us here in the firt place.....now we are going to put down hope and change as a BAD thing because Obama used the words. I guess we will all do nothing and never hope for better.
That's why I'm hoping McCain wins. Then - sm
nobody in America will ever ridicule anybody ever again.
A drunk womanizer gave his support. GREAT.
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great quote "My personal opinion, we don't even have a candidate that I can support as the les
I agree with you 100%! Why doesn't a retired general run or someone who knows what he is doing. It's like all the real men have disappeared from politics.
Well, I did't support McCain either but
running around in Harlem saying how happy they were with Obama's pick of Palin as his VP was any indication of where Obama is on the food chain, God help him. That food chain must have started below ground level to begin with.
McCain does not support our troops
Since everyone is at least a bit familiar with John McCain’s record when it comes to strolling through a market in Baghdad with hundreds of his closest guards, or how he wants to stay in Iraq for 100 years (except when he flip flops on that).
But not that many really, truly know just how horrific his voting record is when it comes to the troops. And it is pretty consistent – whether it is for armor and equipment, for veteran’s health care, for adequate troop rest or anything that actually, you know, supports our troops.
This is chock full of links to the roll call votes, and the roll call votes have links to the actual underlying bills and amendments. I present this so that there is support and things that can be rattled off when saying that McCain is not a friend of the military. Feel free to use it as you want, but this can be tied into the "Double Talk Express". But here is a very quick statement - John McCain skipped close to a dozen votes on Iraq, and on at least another 10 occasions, he voted against arming and equipping the troops, providing adequate rest for the troops between deployments and for health care or other benefits for veterans.
In mid 2007, Senator Reid noted that McCain missed 10 of the past 14 votes on Iraq. However, here is a summary of a dozen votes (two that he missed and ten that he voted against) with respect to Iraq, funding for veterans or for troops, including equipment and armor. I have also included other snippets related to the time period when the vote occurred.
September 2007: McCain voted against the Webb amendment calling for adequate troop rest between deployments. At the time, nearly 65% of people polled in a CNN poll indicted that "things are going either moderately badly or very badly in Iraq.
July 2007: McCain voted against a plan to drawdown troop levels in Iraq. At the time, an ABC poll found that 63% thought the invasion was not worth it, and a CBS News poll found that 72% of respondents wanted troops out within 2 years.
March 2007: McCain was too busy to vote on a bill that would require the start of a drawdown in troop levels within 120 days with a goal of withdrawing nearly all combat troops within one year. Around this time, an NBC News poll found that 55% of respondents indicated that the US goal of achieving victory in Iraq is not possible. This number has not moved significantly since then.
February 2007: For such a strong supporter of the escalation, McCain didn’t even bother to show up and vote against a resolution condemning it. However, at the time a CNN poll found that only 16% of respondents wanted to send more troops to Iraq (that number has since declined to around 10%), while 60% said that some or all should be withdrawn. This number has since gone up to around 70%.
June 2006: McCain voted against a resolution that Bush start withdrawing troops but with no timeline to do so.
May 2006: McCain voted against an amendment that would provide $20 million to the Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) for health care facilities.
April 2006: McCain was one of only 13 Senators to vote against $430,000,000 for the Department of Veteran Affairs for Medical Services for outpatient care and treatment for veterans.
March 2006: McCain voted against increasing Veterans medical services funding by $1.5 billion in FY 2007 to be paid for by closing corporate tax loopholes.
March 2004: McCain once again voted for abusive tax loopholes over veterans when he voted against creating a reserve fund to allow for an increase in Veterans' medical care by $1.8 billion by eliminating abusive tax loopholes. Jeez, McCain really loves those tax loopholes for corporations, since he voted for them over our veterans' needs.
October 2003: McCain voted to table an amendment by Senator Dodd that called for an additional $322,000,000 for safety equipment for United States forces in Iraq and to reduce the amount provided for reconstruction in Iraq by $322,000,000.
April 2003: McCain urged other Senate members to table a vote (which never passed) to provide more than $1 billion for National Guard and Reserve equipment in Iraq related to a shortage of helmets, tents, bullet-proof inserts, and tactical vests.
August 2001: McCain voted against increasing the amount available for medical care for veterans by $650,000,000. To his credit, he also voted against the 2001 Bush tax cuts, which he now supports making permanent, despite the dire financial condition this country is in, and despite the fact that he indicated in 2001 that these tax cuts unfairly benefited the very wealthy at the expense of the middle class.
So there it is. John McCain is yet another republican former military veteran who likes to talk a big game when it comes to having the support of the military. Yet, time and time again, he has gone out of his way to vote against the needs of those who are serving in our military. If he can’t even see his way to actually doing what the troops want, or what the veterans need, and he doesn’t have the support of veterans, then how can he be a credible commander in chief?
McCain does not support our troops
by Phillip Butler, PhD
People often ask if I was a Prisoner of War with John McCain. My answer is always “No, John McCain was a POW with me.” The reason is I was there for 8 years and John got there 2 ½ years later, so he was a POW for 5 ½ years. And we have our own seniority system, based on time as a POW.
John’s treatment as a POW:
1) Was he tortured for 5 years? No. He was subjected to torture and maltreatment during his first 2 years, from September of 1967 to September of 1969. After September 1969, the Vietnamese stopped the torture and gave us increased food and rudimentary health care. Several hundred of us were captured much earlier. I got there April 20, 1965, so my bad treatment period lasted 4 1/2 years. President Ho Chi Minh died on September 9, 1969, and the new regime that replaced him and his policies was more pragmatic. They realized we were worth a lot as bargaining chips if we were alive. And they were right because eventually Americans gave up on the war and agreed to trade our POWs for their country. A dam good trade in my opinion! But my point here is that John allows the media to make him out to be THE hero POW, which he knows is absolutely not true, to further his political goals.
2) John was badly injured when he was shot down. Both arms were broken and he had other wounds from his ejection. Unfortunately, this was often the case; new POW’s arriving with broken bones and serious combat injuries. Many died from their wounds. Medical care was nonexistent to rudimentary. Relief from pain was almost never given and often the wounds were used as an available way to torture the POW. Because John’s father was the Naval Commander in the Pacific theater, he was exploited with TV interviews while wounded. These film clips have now been widely seen. But it must be known that many POW’s suffered similarly, not just John. And many were similarly exploited for political propaganda.
3) John was offered, and refused, “early release.” Many of us were given this offer. It meant speaking out against your country and lying about your treatment to the press. You had to “admit” that the U.S. was criminal and that our treatment was “lenient and humane.” So I, like numerous others, refused the offer. This was obviously something none of us could accept. Besides, we were bound by our service regulations, Geneva Conventions, and loyalties to refuse early release until all the POW’s were released, with the sick and wounded going first.
4) John was awarded a Silver Star and Purple Heart for heroism and wounds in combat. This heroism has been played up in the press and in his various political campaigns. But it should be known that there were approximately 660 military POW’s in Vietnam. Among all of us, decorations awarded have recently been totaled as follows: Medals of Honor – 8, Service Crosses – 42, Silver Stars – 590, Bronze Stars – 958 and Purple Hearts – 1,249. John certainly performed courageously and well. But it must be remembered that he was one hero among many - not uniquely so as his campaigns would have people believe. Among the POWs John wasn’t special. He was just one of the guys.
John McCain served his time as a POW with great courage, loyalty, and tenacity. More that 600 of us did the same. After our repatriation a census showed that 95% of us had been tortured at least once. The Vietnamese were quite democratic about it. There were many heroes in North Vietnam. I saw heroism every day there. And we motivated each other to endure and succeed far beyond what any of us thought we had in ourselves. Succeeding as a POW is a group sport, not an individual one. We all supported and encouraged each other to survive and succeed. John knows that. He was not an individual POW hero. He was a POW who surmounted the odds with the help of many comrades, as all of us did.
I furthermore believe that having been a POW is no special qualification for being President of the United States. The two jobs are not the same, and POW experience is not, in my opinion, something I would look for in a presidential candidate.
Most of us who survived that experience are now in our late 60s and 70s. Sadly, we have died and are dying off at a greater rate than our non-POW contemporaries. We experienced injuries and malnutrition that are coming home to roost. So I believe John’s age (72) and survival expectation are not good for being elected to serve as our President for four or more years.
I can verify that John has an infamous reputation for being a hot head. He has a quick and explosive temper that many have experienced first hand. Folks, quite honestly that is not the finger I want next to that red button.
It is also disappointing to see him take on and support Bush’s war in Iraq, even stating we might be there for another 100 years. For me, John represents the entrenched and bankrupt policies of Washington-as-usual. The past 7 years have proven to be disastrous for our country. And I believe John’s views on war, foreign policy, economics, environment, health care, education, national infrastructure and other important areas are much the same as those of the Bush administration.
I’m disappointed to see John represent himself politically in ways that are not accurate. He is not a moderate or maverick Republican. On some issues he is a maverick. But his voting record is far to the right. I fear for his nominations to our Supreme Court, and the consequent continuing loss of individual freedoms, especially regarding moral and religious issues. John is not a religious person, but he has taken every opportunity to ally himself with some really obnoxious and crazy fundamentalist minister. I was also disappointed to see him cozy up to Bush because I know he dislikes that man. He disingenuously and famously put his arm around the guy, even after Bush had intensely disrespected him with lies and slander. So on these and many other instances, I don’t see that John is the “straight talk express” he markets himself to be.
 Senator John Sidney McCain III is a remarkable man who has made enormous personal achievements. And he is a man that I am proud to call a fellow POW who “Returned With Honor.” That’s our POW motto. But since many of you keep asking what I think of him, I’ve decided to write it out. In short, I think John Sidney McCain III is a good man, but not someone I will vote for in the upcoming election to be our President of the United States.
by Phillip Butler, PhD
Doctor Phillip Butler is a 1961 graduate of the United States Naval Academy and a former light-attack carrier pilot. In 1965 he was shot down over North Vietnam where he spent eight years as a prisoner of war. He is a highly decorated combat veteran who was awarded two Silver Stars, two Legion of Merits, two Bronze Stars and two Purple Heart medals. After his repatriation in 1973 he earned a Ph.D. in sociology from the University of California at San Diego and became a Navy Organizational Effectiveness consultant. He completed his Navy career in 1981 as a professor of management at the Naval Postgraduate School in Monterey, California. He is now a peace and justice activist with Veterans for Peace.
http://www.laprogressive.com/2008/08/25/why-i-won%e2%80%99t-vote-for-john-mccain/
Al-Quaeda in support of McCain
It would be very unwise to underestimate this group as just another blindly, fanatical extremist group that needs to be wiped off the map. They are very purposeful in their philosophies. They have been doing the same thing with Bush this whole time. And he has played right into their hands . . . just like McCain would were he to win. They know a gool 'ole war monger when they see one. What better way to wear us (the US) down than by goading us into a exhaustive, endless, draining, useless war? How dare Barack Obama voice his desire to sit down and have a conversation with these extremist groups instead of pulling out the bombs? God forgive anyone who should try something so radical as to possibly try to make peace with anyone!! We have created a very sad world in which someone who proposed going the peaceful route would be labeled as a socialist or radical?
Several high-profile dems support McCain.
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I am not a John SYDNEY McCain supporter either. Nor do I support Hillary DIANE Rodham Clinton.
I merely put out what I have read. My opinion is just that. My opinion. Whether you believe it or not is not the point. I put in the link so that those who think differently than I do could look for themselves. It is not that difficult to understand. So does using his full name mean something bad? I don't think so. I use my full name when necessary. If it makes you feel better, then I will repost everything saying Barack Obama. Basically what the article says is that if the Global Poverty bill is passed then you will be paying $8,500 in taxes to a government entity who serves no useful function other than to line it's pockets with the money of the American taxpayers. That is US....you and me.
Personally, I don't want the government to get anymore of my money than they already do regardless of the need. I work too hard for what salary I make to give it away because it is the "feel good" thing to do.
This is my opinion and you are entitled to your opinion also.
PS: I do know what his names mean but thank you for sharing that anyway.
Great McCain add.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2X9LypdiQFo
Great post. Also, McCain is now...
"neck and neck" with Obama in McCain's own state of Arizona. The Arizona Replubic stated Senator McCain is "struggling in his own backyard." They stated he should have had a comfortable lead in Arizona which he doesn't. McCain has now started his robocalls in Arizona. Arizona is a republican state too. I should know, I live here.
Way to go Obama - all the way to the White House!!!
PASS. I like it where i am...also great....I am so proud of McCain...
this morning. He chose well. Good for him! It is a GOOD day in America!
I have great respect for McCain. What makes you
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McCain's speech was well written (for him, I doubt he wrote it himself), but he is not a great s
He does not have 'it'.
Obama has 'it'.
Well done, Obama.
Is Obama losing support or winning support?
John Clodfelter of Mechanicsville, Va., whose son was among the 17 sailors killed in the Cole bombing, said he arrived at the meeting with apprehension over the decision to close the prison. But after listening to the president and being assured that the terrorism suspects would not be released, Mr. Clodfelter said his opinion changed.
“I did not vote for the man,” Mr. Clodfelter said, “but the way he talks to you, you can’t help but believe in him. He left me with a very positive feeling that he’s going to get this done right.”
Great post, great insight, great analysis, thanks!..nm
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I agree neither choice is great, but will vote McCain just as a vote against Obama. nm
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O's votes support his claims. JM's votes support Bush.
Believe what you like. Voting records tell the tale. Could use a few more details on that budget. Just what programs will he slash and and how many tax dollars will be directed away from middle class and in the direction of the rich? How much longer can the infrastructure afford to crumble?
JM adopted O's withdrawal plan when he saw how well it went over with the public in an election year. He flipped on the war once. What's to stop him from flipping again once elected? The nation is war weary. Some prefer a surge in diplomacy, not military answers to diplomatic failures. Ask the Iraqis who have lost more than 100,000 among them how sucessful the war has been. Obama has always understood that the OBL/Taliban live in Afganistan, not Iraq. JM, a little slow on the draw there.
I see nothing in JMs platform that backs his claims about transparency. I see specific plan on the O side under technology initiatives, continued initiatives which originated under Clinton and were reversed during the undercover Bush administration. Pork barrel spending for pubs means something different than it does to dems. Slash the poor to give to the rich? Hard seel in the current economic frefall. Also find nothing in JM's plan to address runaway contract corruption in Iraq. Having Halliburton and companies there props up those struggling American corporations. Show me the plan.
Antiglobal/antidiplomacy. No surprise there. This is about the futureworld, not American imperial delusions of grandeur. So much data on the drilling scam being an immediate relief for gas problems out there it is not worth addressing. Can you say T-Bone Pickens, i.e., we can't drill our way out of this one. He should know. Been an oil man all his life.
Since these are just a few, what else do you have up your sleeve?
You bet!! I was SO hoping it would go this way....
she is PERFECT.
Here's hoping
he does not get angry with her in public and call her the "C" word like he called his wife. He is well-known for explosive temper, we must remember.
You could be right, but I am hoping there is not that many demented sm
people out there. I would rather think someone is fixing the numbers up than think we have that many Americans who are haters.
I'm hoping too. Very exciting.
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I'm hoping for Romney
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would much rather see action that hoping a
action speaks louder than words, they say
Well....I'm hoping others thing so too
so McCain gets more undecided votes. LOL! I do believe he is a racist though....no doubt in my mind.
Here's hoping you will find your way
fear and dark foreboding. It does not sound like a very happy place. While erring on the side that change can be good, you may be in for a pleasant surprise.
They are hoping we are stupid....
and THAT's their vision of HOPE.
Hip hop, hip hop, tax cuts to the wealthy way on top, big corps are our friends, forget about the citizens. Yeah, we beat our chest and boast fake tans, cuz we want all the money, screw the little man. So what if we're on the take, let them eat cake. Drivin' my Benz, collectin' big dividends. We hate the poor, shove 'em out the door. No healthcare works well, may their bodies bloat and swell, with the dis-ease of the times, hit 'em with big fat fines. We will collect our swag any way we can, just gotta git rid of that magic black man. Hey, HO
No, here's hoping Obama will undue the...sm
Damage the Bush admin. has done in cutting funding and throwing up roadblocks to anything that doesn't support their "abstinence only" idealogy - which has been a stunning failure though you'll never hear them admit it.
You won't vote for Obama because he's so liberal. I'll vote for him precisely because he is.
Kudo's to you. I was hoping you'd respond
to the tactics of those who try to silence others who don't agree with them.
Mom always told me you don't like the channel change it, you don't have to watch something you don't want to. Same with the posters. If they don't like what you have to say, ignore it and move on.
Life's too short.
Hoping she gets to go back to Alaska
Nov. 4 so that she can keep getting her tans....or therapy for depression, whichever.
Hoping you and Bill M. move there first,
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Here's hoping Chicago workers' sit-in and
good things to come. As Bank of America acquires Merrill-Lynch (whose CEO has the utter gall to request a $10 million bonus pay-out after the ML sell-out) they are refusing credit to Republic Windows and Doors out of Chicago after receiving $15 billion in TARP funds. The workers are fighting back to recover the pay and benefits they have already earned and their governor is backing them up. Now that's what I'm talkin' about !
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aw5QzWC86Vl8&refer=home
Here's hoping the feds will mobilize appropriate
keep their eyeballs unpeeled on such screwball organizations.
Yes, I am just hoping that Obama wont end up the
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You are right, and I am hoping this may be the natural evolution......sm
of politics in this country. Back in Colonial America, there were the Federalists versus the Rebublican-Democrats, which turned into the "party" system we now have (love your comment about "party!"), big business and big money will always be in bed with the politicians, and that will keep propagating and feeding this political mess, but I have to think if the Libertarian or Independent parties were to have a strong enough candidate with a really well-crafted, timely, imperative platform, we could all vote with our pockets, one voter at at time, to strengthen a three or four-party system over time? Am I just wishing and praying, because I am seeing way too much back-scratching payola going on on BOTH SIDES of the aisles in Congress!
I was hoping to get the shrub out of office...nm
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Wow - I'm shocked. I guess I was hoping, for your
sake, that you weren't "fully grown" yet - it seems that something has gone terribly awry here in the maturation process. Not much more to say.
I'm hoping that some in Congress and the Senate
don't let him blindly lead them down that road. We have a national security force now, the National Guard, but of course, they're stuck fighting for our country since the draft was banned.
We need to get back to draft registration like it used to be, then our military will be good and the Guard can stay home and protect us like they're supposed to be doing.
Not hoping, but AT THIS POINT, WE KNOW OBIE WILL WIN A LANDSLIDE
PARTY
Geez. No. Get a grip. I was sincerely hoping...
that no one ever places you in the position you are placing these babies.
Those are just bones thrown in hoping to pacify
some us who smell something foul. Charges "can" be filed against him again. And for now he is "still in custody." Pretty soon, Gitmo will be closed and they won't have sufficient evidence to refile charges and they will say they have no choice but to release him...
That's my prediction.
Was hoping you were hanging aroud the water cooler.
and of greater importance, this is just yet one more illustration of the judgment deficit that will bring them down in flames. Hat's off to JJ.
Yeah, I am hoping Obama WONT be a disaster.
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Yeah, I am hoping Obama WONT be a disaster
See I too can keep repeating like you.
My social security kicks in this April and I am hoping
they have enough left to get me through my life. I am not worried about that basically but I can hardly wait, full retirement age so working, drawing from there- priceless.
And I gather that's what you're hoping to happen because you hate Obama.
And hoping for Bush and his daughters and wife to burn in hell is just kidding right? sm
Just want to get this clear.
Great, great post. Thank you, Marmann! nm
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Why are you McCain people so desperate? You are just like McCain. No plan. Just criticism of the
other candidate. I guess you want the same old thing we have had for the past 8 years. God forbid McCain win with that wild woman, Palin.
And who would u support?
Is this Tara again?
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