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Good, then since you followed her, you know that originally she had nothing but praise SM

Posted By: MT on 2005-08-09
In Reply to: Sheehan, a true patriot - pk

for President Bush, right? He met with her and she thought he was WONDERFUL. So since you have followed her, you do remember that part, right?

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When they praise our TAT

Its like they're congratulating us for losing money.

For those of you who praise

Obama for wanting universal health care....please check this out. Obviously the Obama administration thinks that too many Americans have unnecessary procedures like tonsillectomies and hysterectomies, etc. Gee.....and you think insurance companies won't pay for anything....just wait until Obama takes over.

http://foxforum.blogs.foxnews.com/2009/04/27/lott_obama_health_care/

If Biden or Obama was on there, you would praise
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damned by faint praise

to be endorsed by regulars on this board - har har.

McCain gives praise to Obama...sm

This is for all of you who constantly pick on Obama and hope for Obama's downfall.

Cheers to McCain....... a respectable and decent loser!

McCain: Obama has 'done well' as president so far

Featured Topics:

Barack Obama

Sun Jun 21, 11:48 am ET

WASHINGTON � Sen. John McCain says his opponent in last year's presidential campaign, Barack Obama, has "done well" in his first five months in the White House.

The Arizona Republican says that using a legislative scorecard to judge the presidency so far, Obama has achieved all his legislative goals.

On the down side, McCain says that Obama's successes in Congress have come with little or no Republican support.

McCain also is critical of Obama for setting a date for closing the detainee facility at Guantanamo Bay without first developing a comprehensive plan for what to do with its prisoners.

And the Arizona senator says Obama should speak out more in support of protesters in Iran.

McCain appeared Sunday on CBS' "Face the Nation."

NOW IT SAYS THAT ..originally it did not.
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There are many families of the fallen who praise Bush and I'm not outraged. sm
I don't understand them, but there's no outrage.

Like I said before grief is different for everyone and for people to continue to say "she's done a 360," to me is not really relevent. Most intelligent people know that grief has stages and this lady is entitled to change her mind, her feelings. That's something the neocons can't grasp, why I'm not sure. Maybe after reality and permancy set in, her feelings changed. This lady has lost her son, and you actually think she's camping out for political reasons. I mean come on. That's a ridiculous argument.

I dont think that he HAS to speak to the lady again because he has already had his press time with her while she praised him, BUT what does he have to lose by speaking with this lady again.

am originally from Michigan sm
Oakland County and alot of my reltives still live there. Some are retired from GM. It is really bad up there. Lots of folks on my sister's street with no jobs and more losing jobs every day. I was up there in September and the houses for sale are unreal!

Obama's suspension request draws IMMEDIATE PRAISE from across the globe.
A few hours after being sworn in, US President Barack Obama has asked prosecutors to seek a suspension of Guantanamo military trials, a decision welcomed by the world as a first step towards its closure.

"In the interests of justice, and at the direction of the president of the US and the secretary of defense, the government respectfully requests the military commission grant a continuance of the proceedings," said prosecution documents cited by Agence France Presse (AFP).

Obama wants all pending cases, including the trial of five on charges of plotting 9/11 and Canadian Omar Khadr for allegedly killing a US soldier in Afghanistan, suspended for 120 days.

"[This would] permit the newly inaugurated president and his administration time to review the military commissions process, generally, and the cases currently pending before military commissions, specifically."

Military judges will decide on Obama's request later on Wednesday, January 21.

The special military tribunals for Guantanamo detainees were established in 2006 by the Bush administration to try them under separate rules from regular civilian or military courts.

The Bush administration has declared the hundreds of detainees held at Guantanamo as unlawful enemy combatants to deny them legal rights under the American legal system.

Twenty-one people have been charged and 14 out of an estimated 245 remaining prisoners have appeared before judges.

The Pentagon had refused to unveil the body of evidence to justify the prisoners' continued detention, claiming it would endanger national security.

Obama has vowed to close the notorious detention center.

His attorney general designate Eric Holder said this month that the military commissions did not provide enough legal protections to the defendants and that the Obama team was already taking steps to close Guantanamo.

Welcomed

Obama's suspension request draw immediate praise from across the globe.

Let's get to the heart of what I originally posted...
CBS, the same network that trotted her back out on Sunday, filed a brief with the US District Court stating emphatically that she was not covert at the time of the incident, therefore the reporters in question should not have to reveal their sources. CBS, like the good liberal mouthpiece it is, was trying to defend the first amendment...freedom of speech and the right of reporters to keep their sources anonymous...you know, to PROTECT whistle-blowers. Any other time, you would be FOR that.

I was pointing out the hypocrisy...CBS filed a brief stating they did not believe she was covert. And then they bring her on their network, supporting her statement that she was.

You cannot have it both ways.
Both of those are facts.

And, logically speaking...if a person goes to the CIA every day, sits at a desk in the CIA offices, gets a check from the CIA, chances are that person works for the CIA. And since when do covert operatives get a desk job and walk in and out of Langley every day? Surely common sense should win out here. While she was covert at one time, she was not at the time of the incident.

There is much more common sense evidence on the side of that than on the side that she was still covert.

What about Richard Armitage? Is he a liar too?

I am from a conservative state originally...
but my parents were lifelong Democrats. But...and a big but...they were Zell Miller-type Democrats. I have not voted for a Democrat for the presidency...although I have voted for more middle of the road Democrats for congress. I voted for a pro life democrat for the state senate last time around because I liked what he had to say more than the Republican. As you can imagine from that state, being pro life is important to me in a candidate.

I have enjoyed talking with you! :)

This woman is originally from my town
I saw on the news last night that this woman is originally from the city I live in. They say that she and her son were interviewed up here in 2004 about how hard it was for lower income people to get health care and pay for it and then miraculously her and her son ended up down in Florida in the City where the president was speaking sleeping in their truck. I think that is too much of a coincidence to be real. Plus that truck looked awful nice for 2 people who had been out of work for 9 months and according to the story here they had been out of work up here too before they left for Florida. I think they were a plant, but by which party? They both are looking good by helping these people.

I am originally from California and personally know...
many people who voted for the proposition against gay marriage.

I am originally from California and personally know...
many people who voted for the proposition against gay marriage--none of them from Orange County. People forget that there is more to California than the southern parts.

I am originally from California and personally know...
many people who voted for the proposition against gay marriage--none of them from Orange County.

FYI, they originally called themselves 'teabaggers'.
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When originally posted on the web site, it said it was required ..
I have seen the images before and after ...

you can bet my kid will do it if there is a tax credit ...

but hey -- guess what? He does stuff anyway without being forced or bribed ...

Good post....truth doesn't always sound good
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Good for you! Most people would not recognize good...sm
character if it hit them over the head, just sheep who follow along without thinking for themselves, believing the political pundit spitting out garbage.

Good post - good research (sm)
History does repeat itself at times. I had forgotten about the 50s and Russia.

Very scary times we live in and so many new enemies. This is definitely not a scare tactic but a very clear warning. You can't ignore facts, they are there.

What's good for the goose is good for the gander.
rasberries

Good point, good post. Thanks.

especially since I have four cats and no dogs....I did have a pit bull once, but he was the sweetest thing and rather lick you to death than bite!!!

Good
Great, we have something in common. *BIG HUG*. Bye, Brunson.

Well, good, cuz I am not following you at all. SM
An analogy was made and you are making it sound like a Bible verse? Please. Give it up.

LOL! That's a good one.

Contact the administrator so that you can give her more than just your ISP to use against you. Why not give her your email, so she can report back to your employer with your name, too?

Thanks, good to see
a fair sampling of papers. There are so few independent papers anymore; and they all put out the same spin due to being owned by the The Powers That Be, it is good to hear people speaking out again but my God, what it took to have that happen.

I can't stop laughing at the row v wade line!

As far as everything else you said, I couldn't agree more. Thank you for posting your honest feelings. It helps a lot to know that all those who are born again aren't of the radical mindset that is usually shown on these boards.

good vs bad
That is the trouble with radical right wingers..they think the world is evil or good..black or white..you are either with us or not..axis of evil..LOL..simple thinking for complicated times, if you ask me..

Especially staying the course, 911 and ownership society.

These are good :) nm

This is another good one.

This is about the power of dissent and the duty of the TRUE PATRIOT to exercise it.

http://www.commondreams.org/views06/0704-21.htm

Good for him...sm
(off topic: A 17-year old deputy. That's kinda young for the job I would think.)

Booze does amplify the personality. You do and say things that you would not have if you weren't 'under the influence.' I can't overlook the fact that Mel's father says the the Holocaust did not happen, and is fiction. The same father who moved his family to Australia so that his older brothers would not have to go to Vietnam mind you. What's that saying about apples?

I've learned to separated the man from the movies. Passion of the Christ, I loved.

Pol Pot...not a good example. sm

Pol Pot would have never been allowed his free reign had we stayed the course in Vietnam. The left got their wish. We withdrawn. Millions died. But the left never talks about that.

As far as *we* killing blacks and American Indians. I never killed anyone. Africans were caught and sold by their own people to the slave traders. We can sit and assign guilt until now to kingdom come. To read posts like this further illustrates the people in this country who think of the U.S. as the great Satan.

This is very good to know.
This seems to diametrically oppose what Marylandgal is saying, too.

Good for you and good for him!
I think he is going to go a long way and I think he would make a very deliberate and thoughtful president that could just lead us out of this quagmire the country is currently in, and I think he has the better national healthcare proposition on the table. I hope he maximizes on his momentum. New Hampshire may not be so quick to endorse though.

Well seeing as none are very good...
I think that because none of them are the perfect choice, I want a good speaker to represent us. I'm not in love with Obama, some of what he does is a little unnerving. What Hillary is about just downright scares the you know what out of me (as does McCain - that relic should be in some sanitarium somewhere) - how he made it I don't know because I believe there were a lot of other more qualified candidates on the repubs side. Anyway...seeing as none of them is the "ideal" candidate I at least want someone in who is a good speaker and who can represent our country in a dignified and intelligent manner. Hillary does not. I've listened to her speeches with an open mind hoping (I mean really really hoping) that I would feel differently about her because there was a possibility she could be chosen. But every time she speaks it just brings my hopes down. Her thoughts are not together. She cannot read without constantly looking at her notes, and most of what I hear is "women, women, women. We've been done wrong to and now its payback time. We're going to make them pay for what they did to us, etc, etc (of course not in those exact words - but that is the implication of her speeches). I've not once heard her give a speech of hope and promise. What she does say is more of the same retoric. More of "I'm going to give you this or that - which is what they promised when Bill was campaigning years ago, but never filled their promises back then. That is why I do not believe any of what she says. False hopes.

So yes....candidates are not all that great, but I want a great speaker to talk to other countries and not make us look like fools which is what George Bush & Bill Clinton did when they were in. I also want our leader to talk to our allies AND enemies. Everyone needs to live together in peace and if there is a slight chance that Obama can do it I'm for it. This whole idea that Clinton and McCain will "threaten" other countries with "obliteration". Well how would they feel if our enemies said do what we want or we're going to "obliterate" you. So yes, I'm for someone who is a good speaker and good negotiator.

That is all well and good, but....
I still don't agree. I hear "most Muslims don't agree with," but you never hear the Muslims themselves saying so. Why don't they? Why don't they write articles, get published, come out publically against extremism? Now I know that there are Muslims who are not prone to violence and yes, they abhor it...but a personal feeling means nothing if those who feel that way don't unite and make themselves known. Of course Muslim countries denounced the attack...what would YOU do if you thought you might come into the crosshairs of the US military? Who knows what they were saying to their own people. I seem to remember footage of your regular Muslim folks dancing in the streets over there and saying we got what we deserved. They were not members of AL Qaeda, just everyday Muslim citizens. So...sorry....I don't think this gentleman gets it and I don't think Obama gets it either.

There will always be fundamentalists, and I believe more Muslims than not are fundamentalists; just will not say so, and just a few of them can do great damage and frankly, I want a President in the White House that I think those people will have a grudging respect for; I want them to think he/she will train down misery on them if they attack us again. Because, frankly, that is all they understand, and for all Bush's failures (and he has many in my books, including spending like there was no tomorrow), I believe that is one thing he HAS done and the way he reacted to 9-11 is exactly what has kept them from attacking us like that again. They don't want American boots on the ground in anymore Muslim countries. Because Bush gets it. He knows who and what he is fighting.

Just as an aside....what makes you think Obama is in favor of free trade? His votes in Congress and many of his statements are in direct contradiction to that...? I have read up on it, and while he has made statements that he is "for" free trade, all his actions speak otherwise.

Bottom line...I don't trust him, I don't think he understands Muslim extremism, and I know he is way further to the left and has rampant socialist tendencies that I don't agree with...and if he is elected, look for taxes to go up no matter what he says, because to do everything he wants to do is going to cost a lot of money. And when he starts with the taxing the "rich" and people start to jump on that bandwagon...they need to look at the income thresholds for those "rich" and realize that it will hurt the small businesses who employ a great many people in this country. If he does that, look for more jobs and companies to go offshore. A major contributor to offshoring is companies trying to get out from under the huge tax burden Democratic congresses have put on them.

As a side note...violence associated with the Muslim religion is not new...their rampage across Europe killing Christians on the way to trying to take over Jerusalem...that was many hundreds of years ago, leading to the crusades. Muslim extremists (although they were all pretty extreme in those days) were about world domination then and they are about it now...they are just more clever in how they seek to bring it about.

And look at Sharia law...how much more violent can you get? Stonings, cutting off limbs, honor killings...sorry...I don't think they get it at all...just my opinion. If you put in Sharia law in this country we would have a gazillion stonings a day and a good portion of the populace would be limbless...if even alive. And there are American citizens (though Muslim) who have participated in and fully condoned honor killings...sooo I don't think it is wise to assume that free markets and capitalism will change minds and hearts. Nice thought...just not a realistic one, in my view. While there ARE those Muslims who are not extreme in how they interpret the Koran...I do not think they are in the majority. Nothing about the world today makes me come anywhere close to believing that.

Both of those men are good men....
I was impressed with Duncan Hunter during the primaries. I really have no idea where McCain is going to go. Another real interesting aspect of this race. I have to say Obama surprised me choosing Biden. Especially when they have Biden saying on tape he would be proud to run with McCain. Now he is going to have to turn around and attack McCain. Slight loss of credibility there. Oh well. Friendships often get thrown under the political bus...on both sides.

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Good. nm
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That was a good one!
Bullseye.

and we could all use a good

laugh -- breaks the tension of the past couple months.

That's a good one!
That Sarah Silverman is ignorant!

Good one... :) (NM)
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Good job?
Not so good.
Constant attacks on one's opponent is not a good strategy in a debate; it backfires. Obama was better, no attacks here, only one rebuttal.

Okay, that was a good one!
No, Mickey Mouse votes in Florida, silly! The point is that no one is checking the forms so when Joe Smith comes in to vote 16 times, no one even bats an eye because there he is, all 16 times, registered to vote.

not looking good sm
What I meant was that others seem to like to make her look bad, i.e., the Couric interview. I am not on either side, I am just interested in the presentation of each side, trying to be fair to all. Undecided!