Good dodge, but it doesn't let you off the hook with regards to the point
Posted By: being made here. nm on 2005-09-21
In Reply to: I would if he were president now...nm - Democrat
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Very good point!!! The world doesn't see any of that on the news! Thanks for posting that! nm
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Good post....truth doesn't always sound good
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Good point, good post. Thanks.
doesn't sound good for us
nm
So if being dominated doesn't feel good,
This has nothing to do with any of the other drivel about Nazism, socialism or what. Its time for your medicine.
I'm sure it "sounds" real good...too bad he doesn't really believe it and you....
What you get if O is elected, is a whole lot of not what he's promising.
Such gullible fools half this country is.
That doesn't sound good. I worry myself
as I have life insurance through American General who was supposedly bought out by AIG because everytime I get a letter from the insurance company, it comes in an AIG envelope.
I dealt with this life insurance company since 1975 and I would sure hate to lose the insurance since DH now cannot be insured by another company without a rigorous PE, which he wouldn't do.
Another thumbs up or "I told you so" from hubby if this happens and I sure would hate to acknowledge he was right. I'm beginning to think he can see into the future. So many of his predictions have come true.
She doesn't have to tell me....good grief, it's a free country...
I just asked. You read all these posts and all you got out of it is that we just insulted each other? :) And you don't have to tell me anything. Just an observation.
Who says Obama doesn't have a good sense of humor?
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090510/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_obama_correspondents
At the bottom of this article, there's a link to watch the video - it's a hoot!!!!
Who says Obama doesn't have a good sense of humor?
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090510/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_obama_correspondents
At the bottom of this article, there's a link to watch the video - it's a hoot!!!!
We are about to be on the hook for billions...
orchestrated by the Democrats in Congress and ignored by both Biden and Obama...both supposedly savvy politicians who care about the middle class...well guess what...the middle class gets royally screwed over in this just like everyone else...and you want to make fun of Palin. I guess that shows priorities are.
Good point...sm
There is no blaming liberals for Bush's inaction. He hasn't paid us any attention for the past 6 years, so anything that he has done is of his own accord, including the handling of the war in Iraq.
Suzie mentioned not taking out al Sadr above (sound familiar?).
Good point
I remember a disagreement several of us had with our pastor years ago. Several folks were talking about leaving. One of the elders told us, "You don't leave, I don't leave, this is our church, not his. He needs to remember that he works for us, not the other way around." Brought lots of things into perspective for me.
Good point
Yeah, they are both raking in the dough, but why should Hillary or anyone be forced to pay our health care costs? Your right, the post makes no sense.
Good point - :-)
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Good point. nm
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Good for you! Well-said and to-the-point, too.
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Good point. nm
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Good point! nm
Good point :-) nm
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Good point - He won by only 4%
They did not get 100% of the vote and he did not win by a landslide. I would say more like "squeaked by".
Good point there
Many of the people that carry on about the sanctity of human life have no problem rushing out during hunting season to bag their quota of wildlife, no problem trashing the environment/planet for profit, etc. Either all life is sacred, or none is, IMHO.
good point s/m
Methodists share that belief as do most protestant churches I believe. I don't believe that politics has any place in the pulpit.
Good point....nm
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Good point
nm
You have a good point there..........sm
By comparison, what I meant was that if he fails to bring us out of this downward spiral we are in then America would fail. I was looking at it as if Obama was doing what was the best thing for this country, and certainly, none of what he has accomplished thus far has been for the good of the country. I stand corrected!
Good point. (nm)
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That is a very good point.
All the sex and drugs that goes along with rock n roll. There is always going to be something you don't approve of one way or another whether it be who they sleep with or how much drugs they do. I would not deprive myself of good music just because that particular artist is gay.
The liar ticker is off the hook on that one. sm
They weren't 'LET OFF THE HOOK"
For starters, Obama did not dismiss these charges, Susan Crawford, described as a TOP LEGAL AUTHORITY for military trials did. Obama orders were to simply FREEZE the court proceedings (hello) PENDING the results of ongoing reviews of Gitmo operations.
Crawford's dedcision seems perfectly appropriate to me since dismissing the charges (ahem) WITHOUT PREJUDICE means he can be charged again once the results of the reviews are in, ESPECIALLY in light of the fact that Abd Al-Rahim will remain in custody.
This from the Queen of dodge.
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She did not dodge the question. ...
Katie Couric was going to keep hounding her, trying to get her to say something she was not going to say. I think she honestly had no knowledge if the man was still getting money from fannie or not, and why should she, and what would that have to do with being Vice President of the Unites States. The campaign told her, and he told her, he was not still getting money from them. She told Katie Couric what she knew...and the same stance the campaign and the man himself has said...he stopped doing any lobbying for fannie and taking any money from them when he started with the McCain campaign because of conflict of interest...the same reason that Joe Biden's son (a professional lobbyist in DC for quite awhile now) stopped his lobbying when his dad got the nomination, because of conflict of interest. Don't look for Katie Couric to be asking Biden about his son and MBNA. The mainstream media has a clear bias. I thought Palin did well not to fall into the carefully laid trap. It was not that she dodged...Katie Couric made it appear that way because she was not willing to accept the answer Palin gave. That is a "gotcha" interview.
No, I have not seen a proposal from either candidate about not using taxpayer dollars to help this crisis. I don't think that is possible...the government in and of itself has no money. Any money they have comes from us, the taxpayer, so any money they use comes from us, the taxpayer. We are left holding the bag.
I do have a problem, tho, with spending billions to to buy up bad mortgages where people made bad decisions, taking on a mortgage they know they could not afford. The rest of us wh struggle to make mortgage payments are getting zip out of this, except to take care of those people as well. And you KNOW the government is not going to foreclose on anyone...political suicide. So what happens then? If they do bail them out, then they need to restructure them in some way that those people can continue to make payments.
We'll see.
another dodge. The question is about
It does not involve invoking the name of his opponent. Obviously, there is not one single republican on this board with enough balls to conujure up anything that remotely resembles a McCain economic initiative. Actually, no answer is really an answer in an of itself. You can't do it because of the elephant in the room. His policies are an exact duplication of W's....the policies that an entire nation is running far and wide to escape.
I have a 1991 Dodge with 450,000
miles on it. We have rebuilt the rear end, but it still has the original clutch. Again, pulled a heavy horse trailer for many many of those miles.
Trying to dodge the facts again I see
You know very well that that wasn't the point. It doesn't take a mind reader to see when faced with facts you change the subject. Yes it is a republican bashing board and if you don't agree then you haven't been reading the posts on this board. This board meaning the politics section of MT Stars. Just wanted to state that as you must be looking at the wrong board. I'm talking about this one here. But I guess you think that bashing republicans/independents and anyone who doesn't agree with you is not really bashing. Then the bashing posters pat themselves on the back congratulating each other for the wonderful bashing they just did with a self-righteous attitude, but I guess you don't consider that bashing. All you have to do is read the posts one by one and you will see.
Just going down the board just a short ways I found 17 bashing of republicans to 6 nonbashing (rebuttals to the bashing). I haven't come across any posts that started out with the original poster bashing someone who doesn't think the way they do.
But then I guess you consider Republican/independent bashing not to really be bashing.
Of course you find any article that bashes the republicans and is filled with propaganda to be interesting, but it certainly is not going to render any "thoughtful or intelligent discussions" just more of the same mumbo jumbo.
By the way, I never said your posts cause me any distress. Don't know where you came up with that one. Probably the same place you think this is a vitrolic Democrat-hating board. Just because you say it is doesn't mean its true.
That's a good point and it's true. sm
I am sure all of us have things we do in the name of kindness. The rest of us just don't talk about it.
Rush may have a good point here.
From an email I got:
"Love him or loathe him, he nailed this one right on the head..........
By Rush Limbaugh:
I think the vast differences in compensation between victims of the September 11 casualty and those who die serving our country in Uniform are profound. No one is really talking about it either, because you just don't criticize anything having to do with September 11. Well , I can't let the numbers pass by because it says something really disturbing about the entitlement mentality of this country. If you lost a family member in the September 11 attack, you're going to get an average of $1,185,000. The range is a minimum guarantee of $250,000, all the way up to $4.7 million.
If you are a surviving family member of an American soldier kill ed in action, the first check you get is a $6,000 direct death benefit, half of which is taxable.
Next, you get $1,750 for burial costs. If you are the surviving spouse, you get $833 a month until you remarry. And there's a payment of $211 per month for each child under 18. When the child hits 18, those payments come to a screeching halt.
Keep in mind that some of the people who are getting an average of $1.185 million up to $4.7 million are complaining that it's not enough. Their deaths were tragic, but for most, they were simply in the wrong place at the wrong time. Soldiers put themselves in harms way FOR ALL OF US, and they and their families know the dangers. (Actually, soldiers are put in harms way by politicians and commanding officers.)
We also learned over the weekend that some of the victims from the Oklahoma City bombing have started an organization asking for the same deal that the September 11 families are getting. In addition to that, some of the families of those bombed in the embassies are now asking for compensation as well.
You see where this is going, don't you? Folks, this is part and parcel of over 50 years of entitlement politics in this country. It's just really sad. Every time a pay raise comes up for the military, they usually receive next to nothing of a raise. Now the green machine is in combat in the Middle East while their families have to survive on food stamps and live in low-rent housing. Make sense?
However, our own US Congress voted themselves a raise. Many of you don't know that they only have to be in Congress one time to receive a pension that is more than $15,000 per month. And most are now equal to being millionaires plus. They do not receive Social Security on retirement beca use they didn't have to pay into the system. If some of the military people stay in for 20 years and get out as an E-7, they may receive a pension of $1,000 per month, and the very people who placed them in harm's way receives a pension of $15,000 per month.
I would like to see our elected officials pick up a weapon and join ranks before they start cutting out benefits and lowering pay for our sons and daughters who are now fighting.
Good point - forgot about that
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oh, good comeback. What is the point
nm
You bring up such a good point...
my partner drives a school bus in 2 areas, a very impoverished area, and then in the 'upper class' area, and he never gets over all the kindness and gifts he gets from the poorest of people during holidays, while the more affluent areas not even give nothing, they do not even treat him as a person.
I have noticed that during post office drives, you always see the most donated goods hanging on the mailboxes in poor neighborhoods, and very rarely anything from the huge gigantic housing developments. not to say they do not give but it really says SO MUCH.
we are musicians here where I live also and even the money-making machine bars and restaurants, they want to get everything free, they are making musicians around here go broke and do not care at all. they hold open mics and get everyone to play for free, while over-charging for every other little service, and give the musicians nothing, not even a free pop or coffee (or drink if you drink).
by the way, these establishments all boast they are christians/family establishments.
I think wick has a good point here..
That's a good point. I'm like you in the middle -nm
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Good point - what about HC's suits.
How come nobody commented on Hillary Clintons outfits. She doesn't shop at Penny/Sears or any of the other stores I do. Her clothes are very expensive but nobody made any comments about her spending money on clothes.
Good point, I agree with that...nm
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Good point. Actually, I think he wants to be Denzel
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Good point, Amanda. sm
If you had really listened closely to Prez Obama's speech earlier, he clearly stated the government is willing to give them a boost up in order to stabilize them and give them a chance to revamp their manufacturing in order to be competative with the global car manufacturers. I am so glad to hear that one of the plants that will be shut down is Hummer. We don't need gas guzzlers like that on the road. They serve no purpose other than to satisfy the egomaniacs who need a huge obnoxious vehicle in order for them to feel superior. We are not all going to be driving Smart cars. For pete's sake, be realistic. There is a solid purpose to keep manufacturing trucks and SUVs, and they can be made more energy efficient. We desperately need a new mindset in this country, one that insists on less consumption, more cost effectiveness with an eye to achieving freedom from foreign oil. In other words, we need to adapt a new attitude of learning to live without all the disgusting excess that goes on in this country. People need to wake up and reprioritize what is really important, which is not more, more, more. We can be the leaders in the world and set an example to everyone else that our values are more important than the trappings that we have prostituted ourselves for decades. This is not a bad thing!
"'The truth is that the president is just doing with GM what we, the people elected him to do: manage America’s decline and do it gently, painlessly, without seeming to abandon the old tropes of American Greatness."
A good uplifting point of view from God.....
http://www.sjchurchofchrist.org/freeboot.shtml
That Bill WAS our president at one point and a good one at that....sm
DUH!
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Good point. Yeah, maybe that is the norm there.
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Good post. I think you made your point!
Go McCain/Palin 2008
Good point, if you're going to support something, you should be able to look at it (sm)
and still think you're right, right?
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