Give me a break. There was nothing elusive about W the target.
Posted By: Sheesh yourself. on 2008-12-26
In Reply to: gee, and it was okay for Bush to be the elusive target for the last 8 years??....s/m - sheesh...hypocrite
He constantly made himself an easy mark, time after time after time and, to be sure, it was VERY unhealthy for the nation. You don't have to look far for the evidence...an economy teetering on the brink of depression, universally abysmal approval ratings across party lines, a resounding GOP defeat in November, an 11th hour desperate attempt to rewrite history, a VP coming out of hiding from his undisclosed location to arrogantly pronounce that war crimes committed by the POTUS and VPOTUS lay beyond legal recourse, etc.
Did you bother to read the article? This is coming out of the mouths of Newt Gingrich, Saul Anuzis, republican party chairman in Michigan and possible new RNC chair, republican leaders in Congress, and John McCain, himself, the GOP's fearless leader just a little over a month ago.
Try reading the article before getting all indignant, and pay special attention to the part about the only really EFFECTIVE criticism of Obama being that which has come out of the left-sided, progressive wings of the DNC...not a hypocrite in sight. Sooner or later, for their own good, the GOP is going to have to come to terms with what ails them and how they screwed up in this last election cycle. If they don't, history is bound to repeat itself.
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gee, and it was okay for Bush to be the elusive target for the last 8 years??....s/m
...and probably beyond.....that wasn't unhealthy????? from the DNC, liberal democrats, and the liberal media???
I think it a good thing to stay away and not give them a target. sm
It is so obvious they are brainwashed and cannot respond to logic in a sensible fashion, so it is no use discussing or arguing with them. You cannot argue logically with someone who has no logic.
Give me a break.
The CON board has been demoralized by nonstop drive-by vitriol for months. Forgive me if I'm neither surprised nor particularly perturbed to see that the worm has turned here. My congratulations, though, extend to all those who post with the very obvious intent of ridiculing and harassing those with opposing views to the point of eliminating rational discussion on these boards. If their purpose is to eliminate rational discussion of important political issues, they seem to be succeeding.
oh give me a break!
as the person said above, ive never used his whole name, and i said it for impact, not because i care about him. Honestly, I don't know McCain's Middle name! or Joe Biden's or Sara Palin's. pathetic that you talk about me in third person. ask like the person above. again you know nothing about me, i have pics all up on my myspace of me shaking Obama's hand and me at his speech... you know the old saying if you assume you make an a$$ out of you and me!
Oh, give me a break!!!!!!!
Nancy Pelosi wants to take on some of her "garbage" to the deal. There should be NOTHING added, nadda, let alone her screwed up way of thinking mess. There will be so much added garbage by the thieves on capital hill WE are paying for, the debt itself will never see the money.
Likely to die? Give me a break.
Are you suggesting he's NOT being diligent about his health? Do you think he hasn't had an MRI just because he didn't fax it to your house? Vote for whoever you want, but siding with that numbskull Obama because you have a preminition of death re. his opponent is laughable.
Give me a break!
Hey, guess what? The war in Iraq IS pointless. It was predicated on a lie by power and money hungry idiots (Bush/Cheney, supported by McCain). The idea that our troops should stay and fight and die for a lie just so McCain can put a big W in the win box is sickening. McCain says he's all about veterans...yeah right. I guess that's why he voted against the new GI bill. You may want to take issue with him on that.
Give me a break. Okay...YOU TELL ME.
Follow me now....listen. Obama SAID he is going to give a tax cut to 95% of Americans. He has said it REPEATEDLY. FACT: 95% of Americans DO NOT PAY federal income taxes. Between 30% and 40% DO NOT. Okay...focus here now. HOW is the great and powerful OBama going to give a tax break to THOSE 30-40% who are a LARGE PART of that 95%?????? You said yourself: You cannot be given a tax CUT if you do not pay taxes. Look at his plan AGAIN re: refundable tax credits. THAT is where the 30-40% are going to get their "cut." IN the form of a check. Good grief, it is so simple, is THAT why you don't get it?
If I am so misguided, please help me understand...95% of all Americans are going to get a tax cut. He said it. Repeatedly. 30-40% OF that 95% DO NOT pay federal income tax. So WHERE, unless he is lying through his teeth, is THEIR TAX CUT going to come from, if not through refundable tax credits in the form of a check? Please enlighten me, or bright one who knows SOOOO much more than I do.
Thank you so much.
Give me a break is right.
Someone posts and says we shouldn't post and use the day to mourn Obamas beloved granny. But Obama doesn't stop campaigning. You just don't like it that the truth is coming out about the O. You just don't like it that there is a possibility he could lose. I don't think he will lose but there is that possibility. But your using any excuse to try to suppress information from being put out and telling us we're heartless, etc. When you know for a fact if it was McCains mother you would still be posting articles.
Yes it is sad to lose a grandparent that you love. We all know this. We all have sympathy. But it's not stopping him from continuing to campaign and it shouldn't. The election is tomorrow. He is grieving in his own way as everyone does when they lose a beloved. However because his grandmother died should not stop the Obama supporters to keep supporting and the McCain supporters to keep supporting McCain.
Are you trying to say the Obama should keep campaigning and his supporters keep doing what they're doing but McCain should stop campaigning and his supporters just go into morning for Obama.
GIVE HER A BREAK -was trying to say.
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give me a break
"tax breaks for the wealthy" why is this such a talking point? Tax breaks for EVERYONE THAT PAID TAXES. Because the rich paid a whole h3ll of a lot more than you or me, they get a bigger return, wow that's not hard to make sense out of.
Give me a break
And that statement was from the MT board's 'Trickle Up Economist for 2008!!!  
I do believe she said give it a break.
Yup, that is what she said
come on give him a break...
The only reason I'm commenting is because of all the Bushisms there are and how he people got crazy about how he mispronounced stuff... well im pretty sure Obama stumbled over some words just now too...
but just as it was with Bush, big deal... he's human!
So what? Give him a break.......
'Every move I make, every breath I take.....????
Give me a break...(sm)
There was no working with Bush and his veto pen and you know it. You might want to try the real world instead of that Fox fantasy land.
Give me a break.
I'm sure all Gitmo detainees are terrified for their lives while we provide literature for them to read, provide meals, clothes, etc. I could see why they would be scared for their life considering we have brutally murdered so many detainees, huh? However, if we were prisoners of terrorists....I wouldn't be scared for my life at all because they would never behead me just because I'm an infidel or anything.
These people want us dead and yet some of you continue to feel sorry for them. We seem to have forgotten 9/11.
Give me a break, you get your so-called
facts from the National Review? No wonder. There many, many things in your post that are just out and out untrue. Check your facts, chicky . . . I mean from an honest to goodness intelligent source!
Huh? Give me a break. We all voted him in because...sm
we have a brain and are able to see that he loves his country, is educated and intelligent, a deep thinker, and wants us ALL to have a better life. The crap that the rich pubs have been feeding you is just not true. The scare tactics did not work. I am as white as you can get, I am not a racist, and I voted for Obama because of his vision for all of us. It has nothing to with making history. How would that benefit anyone?
Give it a break. This statement over and over
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Give me a break. All you republicans would be...sm
the first to holler if he would assert himself before being inaugurated. What he states is true. There is only one president of the USA at a time and George Bush is president for another week or so. His time does not start until Jan 20. Wait until then before you start complaining.
Give the guy a break - in office less than 1 week!
It took Bush longer than that to screw everything up. How long do you think it's going to take President Obama to straighten out this mess?
Give me a break! It is okay if it was Bush, but not okay for Obama!
Guess it will never be okay to make fun of the chosen one.
Oh, please, give me a break....that man sticks his foot
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Like you respected Bush? Give me a VERY LARGE break.
Ridiculous statement. He will get my respect when he EARNS it.
I guess we lefties will hafta give the right a break
Why doesn't the right give the new government a break, and try to work with it instead of undermining any attempts at fixing our country's myriad of problems?
(Because they CAN'T, I guess).
GIVE ME A ROYAL BREAK!!! FLAG-FLYING
Flag-flying IN AND OF ITSELF is not "patriotism"
PATRIOTISM is standing up for one's COUNTRY against all - including the government.
You can show your patriotism in MANY MANY ways other than flying a flag - one of the most important ways is to EDUCATE yourself about how the government LIES good men and women into fake wars to LINE THE POCKETS OF THE ALREADY RICH.
We have not been "fighting for our freedom" since 1776!!
WANT TO SHOW YOUR PATRIOTISM? Get the facts about what your government is REALLY using your tax dollars for and HOW they are really using your sons and daughters...
And now Chuck Norris is a govermental/political expert??give me a break!
Yup, they sure are! And right on target!
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Right on target!
Made sure my daughter knew what to avoid and she in turn taught my granddaughter. Good thing, my granddaughter was not afraid to tell her mother when an older boy asked her to put his...........in her mouth. My daughter called CPS.
Seems pretty on target to me :o)
Tongue in cheek..but I gotta tell ya, some of this is true, from my experience living in NY, CA and VA.
Subject: Dear Friends, (Retirees and Those Planning to Retire. Here are some very helpful tips that are just too true to ignore:
As we all know, when we hit retirement age we come face to face with the fact that it may be time to relocate. The big question is: where to? Here are some tips.
You can live in Phoenix, Arizona where.....You are willing to park 3 blocks away because you found shade. :-)You can open and drive your car without touching the car door or the steering wheel. You've experienced condensation on your butt from the hot water in the toilet bowl. You would give anything to be able to splash cold water on your face. You can attend any function wearing shorts and a tank top. Dress Code is meaningless at high schools and universities. Picture lingerie ads. You can drive for 4 hours in one direction and never leave town. You have over 100 recipes for Mexican food. The 4 seasons are: tolerable, hot, really hot, and ARE YOU KIDDING ME??!! You know that dry heat is comparable to what hits you in the face when you open your oven door.
You can Live in California where...You make over $250,000 and you still can't afford to buy a house. The high school quarterback calls a time-out to answer his cell phone. The fastest part of your commute is going down your driveway. You know how to eat an artichoke. You drive your rented Mercedes to your neighborhood block party. Then someone asks you how far something is, you tell them how long it will take to get there rather than how many miles away it is.
You can Live in New York City where..You say the city and expect everyone to know you mean Manhattan. You have never been to the Statue of Liberty or the Empire State Building. You can get into a four-hour argument about how to get from Columbus Circle to Battery Park, but can't find Wisconsin on a map. You think Central Park is nature, You believe that being able to swear at people in their own language makes you multi-lingual. You've worn out a car horn. You think eye contact is an act of aggression.
You can Live in Maine where... You only have four spices: salt, pepper, ketchup, and Tabasco. Halloween costumes fit over parkas. You have more than one recipe for moose. Sexy lingerie is anything flannel with less than eight buttons. The four seasons are: winter, still winter, almost winter, and construction.
You can Live in the Deep South where...You can rent a movie and buy bait in the same store. Y'all is singular and all y'all is plural. After five years you still hear, You ain't from ' round here, are Ya? He needed killin' is a valid defense. Everyone has 2 first names: Billy Bob, Jimmy Bob, Mary Sue, Betty Jean, MARY BETH, etc.
You can live in Colorado where...You carry your $3,000 mountain bike atop your $500 car. You tell your husband to pick up Granola on his way home and he stops at the day care center. A pass does not involve a football or dating. The top of your head is bald, but you still have a pony tail.
You can live in the Midwest where...You've never met any celebrities, but the mayor knows your name. Your idea of a traffic jam is ten cars waiting to pass a tractor. You have had to switch from heat to A/C on the same day. You end sentences with a preposition: Where's my coat at? When asked how your trip was to any exotic place, you say, It was different!
AND You can live in Florida where...You eat dinner at 3:15 in the afternoon. All purchases include a coupon of some kind -- even houses and cars. Everyone can recommend an excellent dermatologist. Road construction never ends anywhere in the state. Cars in front of you are often driven by headless people.
The deep south was on target ;-) nm
Incorrect. We're the target of terrorists
because we are a capitalist society. A society that allows for personal freedoms. A country that embraces all races and religious and creeds. A country that does not dictate how its citizens must act, and think, and worship. And that is unsufferable to Muslim extremits.
Do you know anything about Jihad?
For crying out loud. His target group IS workers
are so low that they come up not owing tax at the end of the year, then it would not be possible to give them a tax cut or a tax credit, unless it is a refundable tax credit. So far, you have not provided any evidence that Obama is proposing a REFUNDABLE tax credit. As a matter of fact, why do you supposed he call this tax credit "Making WORK pay." The credit will zero out at zero tax liability unless it is a refundable tax credit. Again, it seems like you cannot produce any evidence that this is the case. Or can you? What about the socialist question with regard to progressive tax reform proposals only being socialist at Obama's hands, an no other president in history since 1913, including the 7 republicans who raise the top income bracket rates to as high as 63% to 94%, as opposed to Obama, whose intent is to restore that rate back to 39.6% as it was in 2000 when Bush took office?
Dems Target Private Retirement Accounts
More control coming? Thanks, but no thanks. I have a brain and like to think for myself. See link below.
let's break this up...
I would not hang out with hitler just because I so young at that time. Like is to like and water seeks its own level, etc. you are known by the company you keep.
I would like to point out there are people out there who would rip the hide off Thomas Jefferson for what many thought he did with a slave although since proven he did not and that was a lot longer ago.
I was doing pretty good until this year, but NAFTA was started by clinton, not bush. The war seems to be was started by all of us or at least the people we voted for, because saddam himself started the rumors he had weapons of mass destruction, apparently to keep iran out of his hair. This was actually reported on 60 minutes, not known for conservatist reporting. We were told this would be a long haul before it even was started. Honestly, I don't know anymore, and neither do most of us.
I am no longer pro choice. I find pregnancy almost totally inexcusable except for obvious cases of rape and incest, and a few other criteria. The practice seems barbaric to me and the PETA people would all over us if we did the same to animals.
SS: Some people were already pulling out of SS into other plans back in the 80's and as I remember, some of them failed and the money disappeared leaving them with not enough SS points to quality. Scary. There was nothing wrong with SS until Washington got greedy and stole from it to bail out Medicare or Medicaid.
Don't get the last one about decades-old news, celebrity. I don't pay attention to celebrities and old news should be looked at as history, hopefully so we don't repeat past errors.
No, we are not basically okay, but a lot of this on personal levels we have done to ourselves. We are now in the habit of pointing blame at anybody else rather than own up to what we do.
Don't know how to break this to you, but
I read the letter in its entirety. I read it for a second time because I was so stunned that anybody anywhere was trying to make political hay out of a communist analyzing the DNC, comparing its presentation to his father's "methods," remembering his father fondly (most human beings do this once their parents have passed) praising the DNC success and THEN making the leap from this to Obama is a communist and is into mind control. I posted and went about my business. All day long, I kept thinking about the absurdity of the original contention and continued to chuckle each time. I came back this afternoon and lo and behold, someone is still trying to make something of this. I am still LMAO. It is on the pathetic side that the promoters of this conspiracy theory cannot see the folly in this most preposterous notion.
Don't know how to break this to you, but
Fairly tame in comparison to the real liberal press, none of which is broadcast on cable or networks. MSNBC is simply a democratic viewpoint, not liberal enough for the libs. If you think these sources do not represent democrats, why not ask them, instead of assuming that you know something about something that you know nothing about. But hey, you already have no credibilty outside the choir.
Let me break this down for you.
Obama and McCain are the candidates. The economy is in meltdown mode:
1. People are losing their jobs. In Georgia, for example, their unempolyments claims jumped a whopping 76% last month. Nationally, initial unemployment claims jumped to 498,000, the highest they have been since October 2001. Over the last year, the number of unemployed has risen from 2.2 million to 9.5 million.
2. Jobs are being lost in record numbers. 760,000 jobs have been lost this past year....the highest rise since October 2003....and the 9th consecutive month for job loss.
3. They are losing their homes. The foreclosure rate rose 12% last month, 27% from one year ago nationwide. However, Nevada,for example, has seen an 89% jump from last year, California 75%, just to give you the idea.
4. They are losing their life savings. Stock market crash shows net loss of 38% this past year. That means that a $100,000 investment a year ago is now worth $62,000. 401K statements are due out momentarily. If you think right-wingers are angry about the "socialist takeover,", just wait for that news to hit home. You haven't seen angry just yet.
Candidates are expected to have positions and plans on such issues as the economy. Recent polls indicate that Obama holds a double-digit lead in voter confidence when it comes to handling the economic crisis. Obama talks openly about his economic plan. McCain runs and hides from the issue. That is why we are all waiting for HIS supporters and for HIM to step up to the plate and enlighten us as to how his economic policies would be different from W's and what his plans are for fixing the problems. The answer does not include any mention of his opponent's name. It requires a direct, open, thorough, honest response. Can you handle that?
OK. Let me break this down for you.
catch my drift. Here's a clue. It's a word that would be barred from the forum. Nevertheless, for me it is an appropriate moniker. My news sources are hardly confined to TV broadcasts. I read newspapers, news magazines and listen to radio broadcasts, but am not keen on radio talk shows. Heavy on information, void of editorial and lending easily to my own interpretation....that's how I like my news. Focks does not rise to that standard.
Your being a Focks promoter, explains the narrow scope of your posts. There is nothing fair and balanced about them and there is a reason that CNN and MSNBC do not broadcast most of the garbage Focks tries to pass off as legitimate reporting. Sean Hannity is a major player in the fomenting hatred that grips the pub party and will eventually tank McCain's campaign. CNN and MNBC are only marginally better. I am more drawn to information that is a bit more academic and certainly more intelligent.
I am not susceptible to spells or propagnda. I am 60 years old, have been a political junkie since age 14, have been issues active, yet not particularly party active, since the early 1960s. I am no follower, but am well acquainted with myself and my core beliefs. My life experiences, economic class, gender and race have all been contributing factors in my passions for civil/human rights and socioeconomic issues, minority rights in particular.
I fear ignorance, not truth and there is nothing you, Focks or right-wingers can say to make me drink the Kook-Aid you are selling. I know raw ignorance when I see it and that is precisely what people of intelligence see when they witness the target audience at the McCain/Palin rallies. They are losing the election and cannot come up with a coherent campaign strategy that engages anyone outside their fringe elements.
I will pray for you, too, because you are in for a rude shock in T-minus-24. I look forward to a Bushless world, a step into the future and a closed chapter on the politics of fear. Bye-Bye.
Come on, cut her a break
They did outlaw the action figure. Give her some credit!
Let's break this down for you, MT.
The idea is to debunk the ignorance behind the stereotype that all Moslems, moderates included, are terrorists....an assumption you have clearly made. This can be done by not referring to them as terrorists or implying that the US is "at war" with Islam. In other words, Islam/Moslems and terrorists are not synonymous.
Winning over moderates starts with mitigating anti-American sentiment that has been flamed over the past 7 years under the shrub among moderate Moslems. The weaker that sentiment becomes, the less attraction and "draw" the extremist groups will have. The Moslems will end up marginalizing their OWN extremists and become part of the war on terror, not just idle bystanders.
Don't even try to imply that this is not possible. I have had Moslem friends for over 40 years now and not once have I even encountered a terrorist among them. On the contrary. They are quite open to the West and pretty much DETEST the rise of the Islamic political parties in their region.
The tax break is for everyone, not the top 10%
Everyone gets a tax break. The whole point is to get things moving again. I think his package would have done it.
Sure you don't break the rules
Sure you don't. Your fingerprints are all over the conservative board, but that's neither here or there but I could really care less.
Well, let me break out my violin
if this was a true account of this interview I don't know what this reporter expected....did she expect that he would let an Irish anti-war reporter rip him to shreds? Considering all the hatred he's been subjected to I would say he held his peace quite well.
You follow follow a protocol with any dignitary or leader you'd meet anywhere in the world. Wonder if this chick has ever met the queen? Now, there's some strict protocol for you.
He's trying to break a record you know.
Cutting his vacation short due to the Katrina disaster could have affected his record! Must be nice to have over a year of vacation time in only 7 years, and a war-time president at that. I'm not surprised though. I almost don't want to talk smack about him anymore because it is just too easy. It helps to vent though, I suppose.
Hate to break this to you, but it's a
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Hate to break it to you....
...Obama's been bouncing all over the place with in unreliable polls, too, for months....why is it that his rise in the pools was all "reliable" or does "unreliable" only count when the Republicans bounce ahead.
I like that lipstick platform line, too......not too derogatory, just a touch of sarcasm....works for me.....
Well, hate to break it to you....
but not everyone who disagrees with a Democrat is a Republican. I am a conservative. The Republican party left me, I didn't leave it. So now I am an Independent. Quack back at ya!
Hate to break it to you this way, but -
gay men can produce sperm, too. It doesn't just come from hetero males.
Is that what they were teaching in your school system - 'fuzzy biology'?
Story about to break....
whistle blower from Project Vote/Acorn...testifying in PA yesterday...supposedly has documents proving direct link between Obama campaign and Acorn/Project Vote...who this person says are virtually the same....saying Obama campaign gave the maxed-out donor list to Acorn/Project Vote so they could get donations from them for their voter registration program. So much for "I have no connection to Acorn or their voter registration programs." If I was that woman I would hire bodyguards.
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