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Are they like Arkansas?  We may be hillbillies but we have enough sense to step on politicians when they don't deliver.  The Democrat who replaced Mike Huckabee got the mess straightened out in this basically Republican state.  I don't know of any individual cities who have their hand out here either.  Seems like states, cities AND people all want a piece of the free money.  Like all the posts here and elsewhere waiting for Obama to fill their hands with all that free cash.  EVERYBODY needs to wake up:

This is a little story about four people named everybody,somebody,anybody and nobody.

There was an important job to be done and everybody was sure that somebody would do it.

Anybody could have done it but nobody did it.

Somebody got angry about that because it was everybody's job.

Everybody thought that anybody could do it but nobody realized that everybody wouldn't do it.

It ended up that everybody blamed somebody when nobody did what anybody could have done. 

Georgia Secretary of State Karen Handel issued the following statement following the U.S. Department of Justice’s denial of preclearance of Georgia’s voter verification process

Atlanta - “The decision by the U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ) to deny preclearance of Georgia’s already implemented citizenship verification process shows a shocking disregard for the integrity of our elections. With this decision, DOJ has now barred Georgia from continuing the citizenship verification program that DOJ lawyers helped to craft. DOJ’s decision also nullifies the orders of two federal courts directing Georgia to implement the procedure for the 2008 general election. The decision comes seven months after Georgia requested an expedited review of the preclearance submission.

“DOJ has thrown open the door for activist organizations such as ACORN to register non-citizens to vote in Georgia’s elections, and the state has no ability to verify an applicant’s citizenship status or whether the individual even exists. DOJ completely disregarded Georgia’s obvious and direct interest in preventing non-citizens from voting, instead siding with the ACLU and MALDEF. Clearly, politics took priority over common sense and good public policy.
 
“This process is critical to protecting the integrity of our elections. We have evidence that non-citizens have voted in past Georgia elections and that more than 2,100 individuals have attempted to register, yet still have questions regarding their citizenship. Further, the Inspector General’s office is investigating more than 30 cases of non-citizens casting ballots in Georgia elections, including the case of a Henry County non-citizen who registered to vote and cast ballots in 2004 and 2006.

“It is important to underscore that not a single person has come forward to say he or she could not vote because of the verification process. Further, while DOJ argues that the process is somehow discriminatory, the historic voter turnout among Hispanic and African-American voters in the 2008 general elections clearly says otherwise.

“This decision provides a specific example of the inherently illogical and unfair nature of Section 5 of the Voting Rights Act. It is a sad day for the rights of our state and for the integrity of our elections. I remain committed to continuing the fight for citizenship verification. In the coming days, I will consider every option available to the state, including the possibility of legal action.”

Background:

As required by law and ordered by federal courts in October 2008, the eligibility of new applicants to register and vote is checked against the Georgia Department of Driver Services (DDS) and Social Security Administration databases to ensure that individuals registering to vote report similar information. If information in these databases does not match information reported on the voter registration form, the applicant is asked to clarify the information. Additionally, if the applicant previously reported to DDS that he or she is not a U.S. citizen, that person is asked by a registrar to provide proof of citizenship.

Prior to the November 2008 General Election, Secretary Handel sent letters to 4,771 voter registration applicants whose records at DDS indicated they were not U.S. citizens, asking them to provide documentation of their citizenship. As of March 2009, 2,148 of these applicants still have chosen not to resolve the question about their U.S. citizenship.

In the November 2008 General Election, county election officials reported that 599 individuals cast a challenged ballot because the voter had previously indicated to DDS that he or she was not a United States citizen and had not resolved their status with county officials at the time of the election. Of those, 369 ballots were accepted because the voter provided documentation of their citizenship after the election; and 230 were rejected because the individual chose not to confirm his or her citizenship status.

On October 10, 2008, activist organizations including the Mexican-American Legal Defense and Education Fund (MALDEF) and the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) filed a lawsuit to attempt to prevent Georgia from verifying the eligibility of applicants to register and vote in the November General Election, including whether those individuals were citizens of the United States.

On October 16, 2008, U.S. District Court Judge Jack Camp denied the motion by MALDEF and ACLU; directed the State to continue the verification process; and acknowledged the State’s requirements to verify information under the Help America Vote Act. In his order, Judge Camp stated:

HAVA requires that Defendant Handel match information in the statewide voter registration database with information from the Georgia DDS and the SSA databases “to the extent necessary to enable each such official to verify the accuracy of the information provided on the applications for voter registration.”

Judge Camp also stated: ...

You came across this article.  You read it.  You believed it and posted it because:

a) it said what you believe and

b) we (liberals) must believe it too because it is from a Democrat who is against the war.

Did you not question the validity of the statement?  It came from an opposer, so it must be true?  Do you believe everything you read simply because it says what you want to hear?

If the article had stated his specific reasons for believing so, I would have been more inclined to believe to be true.  But again, it was a blanket article that says very little except his opinion.  I think the article is short sighted and your posting it most refutable.  

All that it did was convince me further that all your postings do is to try and take the very complex issue of Iraq and over simplify it to justify your war position.  Not unlike what the Bush administration has done from day one in regards to dealing with it.   

No one with half a brain believes that the progresses being made in Iraq is soley due to the troop surge, and there is plenty of documentation out there to disprove this theory. 

Wasn't that the intent of your posting?  Try to convince others that the surge is working?  It didn't work.  We are not that gullible. 

I am most happy and pleased about the small gains that are being made, and I recognize them for what they are.  But I am also realistic enough to know that those gains can disappear tomorrow regardless of the increased forces because there is no real stability established in the country.  Our military is not the one who is going to create that stability.  It is just a superficial band-aid at best.  It is going to remain a hostile territory until the Iraqi people decide for it not to be and that has to come from reconciliation on the three parties involved. It won't make any difference how many troops we have there. 

I like to go to Huff and read the stuff, most it makes me laugh, the blogs; but ya gotta take it all with a grain of salt.  Thanks for geting my point about the whole post, it being about Fox news and not about McCain or Obama. 

I feel that with all of the side stuff, both sides are like little kids bickering, we are forgetting about everything that is important.  I am so tired of both sides bashing the other, it is a waste of time and money.

however, from what I heard of the tapes I don't think this teacher was just throwing his opinions out there.  He was teaching them as fact.  I think even if he was transferred to a political science class then he would still need to tone down his rhetoric several notches.  You can teach any class from an objective point of view with very little effort.  Yes, everyone is entitled to their opinion, however, I think teachers need to be very careful about much of their own opinion they teach to students.

I just read a bunch of posts below and am not disturbed, but maybe dismayed is a better word.  Whether you trust Obama or not because of his policies, voting record, political life, or whatever is your perogative (sp?), but to incorrectly be making statements not based on anything but milicious rumors spread around leads readers to believe the writer is a biggot and just does not want a black man (which I should state once more 1/2 black, 1/2 white) in the white house.  I have no doubt if more of the white race came out and he looked more white than black a lot of this would not be surfacing.

First - Obama is NOT muslim.  You can think all you want and hope it to be true but what part of the facts don't you understand.  How many times does he have to repeat he is a Christian.  Always has been.  Raised in a Christian home, white grandparents, white mother, went to catholic school, attended a Baptist church, married in a church (not Moslim), children baptised in a church.  To say he is a muslim is like saying McCain belongs to KKK after all he's a white dude.  Pullease.  Sure, his father was a muslim when he married Obama's mother but that's where it stops.  Obama never studied the muslim religon or went to muslim services.  My parents are catholics but I was not raised catholic and am not catholic.  His mother later remarried someone from Indonesia and Obama attended a catholic school.  Get your facts straight.  He never went to a muslim school or studied muslim studies and he is not muslim.  So what if the muslims like him, so do the Christians, Jews, Mormoms, Baptists, and many other religions!

Second of all on the flag thing.  Obama's plane has the American flag on it, are you upset because the flag is not so huge it covers the plane from one end to the next?  There's a flag there!  Also, just because he doesn't have an american flag plastered all over the place on everything does not mean he is not "American".  Have you seen him pledge to a flag of another country?  No, he pledges to the American flag!  As for the picture that he is standing not with his hand over his heart.  I can't tell you how many times I've said the pledge of allegience and I didn't have my hand over my heart every time.  Doesn't mean I'm not American.  He's not trying to get rid of the American flag, but for pete's sake it doesn't need to be plastered in every square inch of empty space. 

The poster who is not well informed about Obama's religion and trying to scare people into believing he's muslim when he's not is just plain wrong.  It doesn't "ruffle any feathers" because you are just wrong.  You may not want to "sugar coat any facts" but first you need to get the facts straight.  People don't "hate" republicans, and certainly not enough that they would want "anything" in there.  You could always put that statement on the other foot "People just hate the democrats so much they'll elect an old senile person to fill the position just as long as a democrat doesn't get in there".  That excuse just doesn't sit well.

I'm no "Obama-lover" and I won't be voting for him but not because of malicious rumors on the internet or false statements made by the republican side.  I'm basing my decision on his voting records and other issues that I don't agree with him on, certainly not from anything I get off the internet.  You know there are people on both sides who hate the other candidate so much they are posting fall information, but for anyone to spread this...all I can say is "shame on you".

I totally agree..besides, I certainly would not want a VP whose former brother-in-law Tasered his own stepson (now THAT's sick)!!

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