Geez. This has to be the most sour, unhappy bunch of people I have ever...
Posted By: sam on 2008-08-31
In Reply to: And Prez who can't decide what he's trying to escape. - RNC speech or Gustav. Ranch is safe like last tim
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Boy that's a whole bunch of people.
Please provide evidence that backs up your claim that liberals always, always utilize name-calling. Not sure exactly how many million people that it just in the U.S. Does this also include Europeans, etc.? Please share where you got this information. Seems like kind of a ridiculous claim, but that's just my opinion.
Calling people honey and dear just weakens your lame repub cause SOUR GRAPES
too bad you can't be a real American and be proud of Obama!
You anti-choice people are a bunch of
Get a life, and keep your hands of my body, and every one else's who doesn't happen to agree with you. If you don't like a woman's freedom to choose, then don't choose it yourself. But you sure as he11 aren't going to tell me or anyone else what to do.
Yes, if he's poor, he won't be gay anymore. Geez, are you people serious?
Christians are making a statement, sending a message, when we choose not to spend our money on music by individuals who live in sin, when we refuse to patronize businesses that do not share our values and morals.
I didn't realize it had to s-p-e-l-l things out for you intellectual elitists. I'm shocked!
You are the most unhappy, negative person I have ever seen! nm
I am not unhappy with current events...
I think it is a great step forward in this country that a black man is running for President. It is historical, and a wonderful, wonderful thing. But because he is black does not mean he is qualified. If he was white and saying the same things I would feel the same way. He seems like a nice guy, has a beautiful family, and has a vision for the country. I don't share that vision. Does not make me a bad person, does not make him a bad person. Just means we disagree. That is what America is all about. It is this rabid hatred of all things not Obama or all things conservative and trying to squelch any kind of opposition that is UNAmerican. It fact, it is the antithesis of the American way, and the fact that he stirs that up in people is concerning. I don't know if it is by accident or by design. No way I could know.
I am a lifelong Republican and this makes me unhappy. sm
I am not unhappy that he chose a woman, I am unhappy that he chose this woman, this person that I know nothing about and only have 2 months basically to do it in. IMO that is not a lot of time to get to know the 2nd in command, who could very likely be the 1st considering McCain's age - though God forbid. Yes she has a child in the military and she is the head of the guard, or something to that effect, but how does that in any way qualify for foreign policy or to be a good leader. And no, I don't necessarily think Obama is the answer.
Somehow it all seems to contrived to me. Does he think that us as women are simply going to vote for him now just because he has a woman? Does he think it automatically makes him look better to us? I am just really questioning his judgment right now to pick someone nobody knows anything about and someone I had no idea he even knew. I do know that I have family in Alaska and not everybody loves her. The next time I talk to them I am going to find out the whys on that.
Someone had mentioned in an earlier post that nobody really knew who Obama was 8 years ago but we have had 8 years to know, good or bad, and certainly the last 18-24 months since we all pretty much knew he was going to run.
I know nothing of what she stands for, except no abortion, no gays, and yes on the death penalty. What are her stands on everything else. I will be investigating, just like I hope everybody else does. I want to know exactly why she is the one McCain has chosen to "go to" as his 2nd in times of crisis, in times of anything really. Speaking of, let us not forget what today is and how it is still impacting people that live in our great country.
I am afraid this year, this election I will be voting against party and going for the Democrat. I just don't know if I can trust McCain's judgment. To me, I have said/thought when it came down to McCain and Obama that I was going to be looking at who they chose for the VP and I think McCain just lost it for me, as well as a lot of other people.
If they're unhappy, they deprive themselves of happiness.
If you want to talk about predjudice, talk about the old folks who can't afford to marry. I forget why that is but I think of our local post mistress who couldn't afford to marry her significant other, I forget what she stood to lose if she married but they lived together for 20 some years and as a Christian, she lamented the fact that they couldn't afford to marry often. She died a few weeks ago and the guy who was her partner and there for her all the years she suffered with MS and other medical issues, was listed in her obit as being survived by her children and her "special friend." THAT is sad.
Please don't bring this up again - brought up a lot of unhappy posters about this post
This was one topic that I took such a big offense to. I'm not voting for Obama, so you would think that I would be happy to "chime in", but when ever you start bringing the similarities in names between a known horrible horrible terrorist that committed horrendous crimes against the american people and start linking the name to an american running for president it sure stirs up a hornets nest. I know you are not comparing the two people together (OBL and Barack & Joe) but when you (or others) try to say oh what a coincidence, the first thing that comes to my mind is that deep down you are saying - hey everone Barack Obama and Joe Biden's name are so similar to Osama Bin Laden there must be a connection.
I was deeply offended the last time this was posted and still am. Would it be okay if this topic didn't come up again? Thanks.
The grapes are SOUR
anyway, said the disgruntled fox.
Sour grapes..sm
It is not necessary for a senator or congressman to go to Iraq to know what is going on there, but for those politicians who need to rely more on image than substance, these trips may be helpful, even though they do end up only preaching to the choir. No response to the personal slam is necessary as it adds nothing but contempt to the dialogue. This “hoohah” has a much more dignified name, although it seems to be a 4-letter word for some. It’s called diplomacy. The US has a long history of it and millions of Americans and other “citizens of the world” look forward to seeing this honored tradition restored. It sure beats the heck out of invasion, occupation, bombing countries into democracy and all that collateral death and destruction. Denying doesn’t make it so. McCain challenged Obama, the media goaded him and he complied with their wishes. More importantly, he came out smelling like a rose, and for all of us who paid attention, it was a long overdue breath of fresh air. This demand to hear Obama admit that the surge worked is nothing more than a distraction and a desperate ploy to throw attention off the success of his trip. He is not alone in his views about the surge and about the needless war that preceded it and he is not required to say what his detractors want to hear. He is simply being true to his own beliefs, something that many among us find extremely attractive.
Sour grapes.
simply does not begin to compare to Obama's. It's just kills you guys when you have a momentary insight into the vacuous plan your candidate presents.
A close examination of Obama's healthcare plan AND the history of debate on this subject dating back to the early 90s reveals that not only are his proposals feasible, they are exactly what is needed to make healthcare affordable and accessible. What in the world do you folks have against insurance plans that cover pre-existing conditions? In fact, I am old enough to remember when they did just that, so I know that it is possible and that the insurance companies still managed to enjoy reasonable profits and competitive stock prices. Get over yourselves, already.
Exactly sam. The only sour grapes
I have is that my household falls in the category of rich according to O and he is going to tax the heck out of us in order to help those who won't help themselves. Socialism is on its way baby, and those who are blinded by O are in for a rude awakening when it starts to slowly creep in. It's not going to happen overnight, it will happen in a way that will be palatable and not rouse suspicion, stated in a way that many will believe. I am kind of looking forward to the backlash that's going to happen in the coming years; thank goodness we here are prepared for it and have seen it coming; we have not been led to the cliff only to be thrown off of it.
Sour grapes from
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Nobody said otherwise. He's just a sour grapes
no self-respecting "leftie" would be caught dead in the same room with him.
sour grapes and
No, YOU can't.
sweet - more like sour and rotten LOL LOL LOL
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OBAMA WON, someone is sour grapes!!! tee hee
smiling
sour grapes, chew chew, sour grapes nm
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You are munching on sour grapes.... too bad nm
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Well....pardon me if I want to separate sour grapes...
from the truth. Verifying facts is not critiquing. I do it because I want to know the truth. Somehow it loses its punch when she lists: "She has hated me since 1992." lol.
Sounds like sour grapes because OBAMA WON
HE WON
What is nasty? The sour grapes you must chew? nm
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Just sour grapes because Err America is dead in the water???
Media matters wouldn't know satire if it was intelligently explained to them. Rush has fun with people like this who are so serious they look as if they never take the hangers out of their coats. Everything mediamatters spouts about him are things that Rush was saying just to get their goat.
They fall into his trap every time, and it makes them look like the humorless people they really are. He was doing the same thing with the Survivor remarks he made last week, and as you can see people took him very seriously. They play right into his hands.
Wow, such sour grapes!!! I know it's hard to lose but try to be classy nm
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sour grapes because McGeezer and Ditz lost hahaha nm
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sorry bunch of
comments. nit pickers unite!!
Bunch of wussies
Which is why we are where we are right now..We are pansies, wussies. We dont take a stand, we are wishy washy. I am just acting like a republican and striking back and using the good old smear campaign that republicans have perfected. You continue to be quiet, mild mannered and you will get no where in today's politics. Hate?? Nah. I hate no one. Im just playing the same game the republicans are playing. What is good for one is good for the other..I think it is fun watching the lying opposition squirm, makes me smile.
What a bunch of prudes.
besides that, I think the whole nation is due for a HUGE party after having endured 8 years of W and a perfectly wretched presidential campaign. An exciting celebration is just what the doctor ordered in the midst of a collapsing economy, the post dismal holiday blues and unemployment/food stamp and jobless rates at highest in decades. What would you have them do? Sit around reviewing their shrinking 401Ks or file their taxes perhaps? Sheesh. Lighten up, will ya?
what a bunch of hicks
Watch CNBC for the rest of the week 24/7 and then vote.
what a bunch of negative
nellies. Why even bother getting up in the morning with that burden of resentment on your shoulders?
What a bunch of losers.
lawsuit after lawsuit and NOW we have Obama being portrayed as having quadruple citizenship. Do you hear yourselves? Preposterous. Ridiculous. Stupid. Full of all kinds of phoney outrage. For crying out loud, get over yourselves.
Along with a bunch of Republicans
banks by tens of billions of dollars.
http://www.comcast.net/articles/news-general/20090206/Bailout.Oversight/
What a bunch of Pelosi!!!
In other words...what a bunch of bu!!sh!t.
GOP, bunch of liars and criminals
The GOP's Spreading Plague By Joe Conason Salon.com
Friday 30 September 2005
Voters are notoriously slow in voting out politicians accused of corruption, but they may reach the tipping point with the latest revelations.
To be an honest Republican these days must be to wonder what awful revelation is coming next - and how the Grand Old Party, which once claimed to represent political reform, became a front for sleaze, corruption and cynical criminality. Across the country, from the Capitol to statehouses, Republican officials are under indictment, under investigation or under suspicion.
This week's headlines featured the indictment of Rep. Tom DeLay and the probe of Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, but the infection of venality among their fellow partisans is now reaching epidemic proportions. So widespread is the plague that keeping track of all the individual cases, and their increasingly baroque variations, has become a distinct challenge.
Consider Jack Abramoff, once the prince of K Street lobbyists and a dedicated right-wing ideologue who boasted of his powerful connections to DeLay, Karl Rove, Grover Norquist and the entire Republican apparatus in Washington. Already under investigation by the Justice Department for his influence peddling among House members, including DeLay, and his swindling of Indian tribes, Abramoff was indicted last month for bank fraud in a separate South Florida case involving a casino boat company that he partly owned.
The fraud allegedly committed by Abramoff and his business partner Adam Kidan involved a phony wire transfer they used to purchase a controlling interest in SunCruz from the company's founder, Konstantinos Gus Boulis, in 2001.
Abramoff and Kidan later fell out with Boulis in a bitter business dispute that turned violent. In February 2001, gunmen ambushed Boulis on a Fort Lauderdale, Fla., highway and shot him repeatedly. On Tuesday, Florida authorities arrested three New York men with mob connections for the Boulis killing. Two of the men - Anthony Moscatiello and Tony Ferrari - had received payments totaling more than $240,000 from Kidan and Abramoff. Moscatiello, a longtime associate of the Gambino Mafia family, and Ferrari were supposedly providing food and consulting services to SunCruz - or so Kidan claimed when questioned by prosecutors. There is no evidence, however, that Moscatiello and Ferrari provided any services to the company.
Connecting the dots isn't difficult here: Kidan and Abramoff want to get rid of Boulis, who won't go away. Kidan and Abramoff hire Moscatiello and Ferrari with SunCruz money. Moscatiello and Ferrari allegedly whack Boulis, without any motive of their own. If the Broward County state's attorney has sufficient evidence to win convictions for a capital crime, some people will probably be talking soon in hope of avoiding the hot shot.
The stunning fall of Abramoff, who has yet to hit bottom, is certainly the most colorful tale of Republican depravity. The corporate money laundering to Texas politicians that led to DeLay's conspiracy indictment, and the suspicious insider stock transaction that spurred investigations of Frist by the Justice Department and the Securities and Exchange Commission, seem mundane by comparison. Outrage will be warranted if their misconduct is proved, but everyone sadly knows that these felonies are now common practice in our political and corporate culture.
Corporate misbehavior has also brought down right-wing publisher Conrad Black, neoconservative strategist and former Bush advisor Richard Perle and the entire corporate board of Hollinger Inc., the Republican-friendly media conglomerate formerly controlled by Lord Black - and that he and others are plausibly accused of illicitly looting for their own benefit. Furious shareholders forced Black to relinquish control of the company and are suing him, as well as Perle and former Black deputy David Radler, for $500 million. The SEC is also suing Black and Radler, and the Justice Department is investigating the former Hollinger directors.
Last month, US Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald, who also happens to be the special prosecutor in the Valerie Plame case, accepted Radler's guilty plea to mail fraud and wire fraud. Radler is now believed to be cooperating in the prosecution of what former SEC chairman Richard Breeden, a Republican who investigated Hollinger on behalf of shareholders, termed a corporate kleptocracy.
Kleptocratic morality evidently ruled at least two Republican statehouses in the Midwest as well. Currently under indictment are former Gov. George Ryan of Illinois, whose trial on bribery charges began last week, and Gov. Robert Taft of Ohio, who pleaded no contest last month to charges of accepting illegal gifts from a state contractor.
That contractor is Thomas Noe, a coin dealer who received lucrative investment deals with the state's Workers Compensation Fund and is now at the center of a gigantic scandal known as Coingate. More than $12 million has disappeared from the fund, and former GOP official Noe stands accused of laundering money to various Republican politicians, including the Bush-Cheney campaign. Like Abramoff, Noe is a Bush Pioneer, responsible for raising at least $100,000 for the president last year.
Still another Pioneer is currently under criminal investigation in a celebrated corruption case involving Randy Duke Cunningham, a prominent Republican representative from San Diego with a senior position on the House defense appropriations subcommittee. On Aug. 18, FBI and IRS agents raided the offices of defense contractor and Bush fundraiser Brent Wilkes.
Wilkes is reportedly a former business associate of Mitchell J. Wade, the head of a defense contracting firm called MZM Inc. who is under investigation in San Diego for alleged bribery of Cunningham. According to newspaper reports, Wade purchased a home owned by Cunningham at a price inflated by at least $700,000, and also permitted the congressman to use his 42-foot yacht free of charge. Federal agents searched Wade's offices in July.
Although prosecutors have brought no criminal charges in the case yet, they have filed civil court documents describing the home sale as a violation of federal bribery laws - and Cunningham, who has served in Congress for decades, has already announced that he will not seek another term next year.
The Republican National Committee's new treasurer, Robert Kjellander, is under investigation too. (Naturally, he is also a Bush Pioneer.) Not long after he assumed his new post at the party's Washington headquarters, Kjellander received a federal subpoena for records of his dealings with the Illinois Teachers' Retirement System, a state pension fund, and the Carlyle Group. Federal prosecutors are reportedly looking into alleged corruption at the fund, and have asked Kjellander to provide information about a $4.5 million fee he received from Carlyle for his role in arranging investments by the fund with the huge private equity fund. Carlyle, of course, is closely connected to the Bush administration, including the president's father, George H.W. Bush, who has worked for the firm as a rainmaker and advisor.
In fairness, it should be said that all these pols and parasites may be innocent (except for those already convicted), or at least not guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. It is also true that voters have historically been slow to evict politicians from office because of corruption charges.
But public opinion of congressional Republicans is hitting new lows, and Americans are growing furious about the war in Iraq, the government response to Hurricane Katrina and rising energy prices. The natural impulse to throw the rascals out can only be encouraged by the Gilded Age spectacles now unfolding in Washington and in cities across the country as the indictments continue to come down between now and November 2006.
Joe Conason writes a weekly column for Salon and the New York Observer.
Is this what it has come to, a bunch of draft dodging, sm
stay-at-home politicians calling decorated war veterans cowards. They have their nerve.
I have been out of the loop lately with politics, but this tops all.
Well you had to know the threats were coming next from this bunch..nm
They are a scary bunch aren't they?sm
“When the government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny.” –Thomas Jefferson
looks like a bunch of sheep to me living in USA..sm
hmmmmm....? Just because everyone is voting for Barack doesn't make any of it right - they all are bad candidates to some of us......
blechhhhhhhhhhhhh
JMO.........no flames required......
Yes. We are all a bunch of stupid wretches
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I just got off that site after reading a bunch
of questions. Some are inappropriate as:"Why does your wife look so miserable all the time." This has nothing to do with serious questions. There was also one on there about somebody losing their labradoodle and what was he going to do about it. Others are down right nasty. I call that abuse.
Some people are just plain nuts. There are over 11,700 questions listed on there and I think I only got to read around 300. Most that I read were appropriate and relate to questions on what he was planning to do.
Now, before you scream at me, I didn't vote for him, I'm definitely not a fan of his, but I'm willing to watch and see what happens and give an opinion or two once in a while....and that's all it is, an opinion, like everyone else on this board are allowed.
I love it! Bunch of bums. NM
Yeah, thanks a bunch for posting....sm
Even though most of the "blame" can be contributed to the dems through the years, repubs are, in part, also to blame, for not sticking to their guns.
Sam has been posting this stuff for weeks, and I don't care if she does paraphrase what she reads, because she makes it easy to understand too.
Anyways, this guy is spot on for his short in a nutshell review, too. Really liked his website.
I think we should be glad the bill didn't pass. It still had a bunch of crap in it. Maybe they'll get it right this next time.
I'm thinking of buying a bunch of really mean -
pitbulls, and teaching them to seek and destroy wall street CEO's.
Yep, but you won't get the bunch of blind eyes on
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I want facts, not a bunch of mumbogumbo.
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Can we avoid lumping everyone into one bunch?
I'm a liberal and I have to say, I really resent it when people say the libs this or the dem's that and refer to all of us in one great big bunch that worships Obama and thinks he's the messiah. It really bugs the crap out of me. He's a man. He's not my Savior.
I have seen condescension and name calling from BOTH sides of the fence, none of which is appropriate coming from anyone who calls themself an adult. I do find it interesting that it seems to be much more accepted in this election cycle than in years before. I don't know if it's because of the proliferation of message boards and the complete lack of humanity that tends to go with posting on them, or if it's this particular year and set of candidates/winners.
Let's give the man a chance. Yes, he's a man. I believe he is a very smart man and I have high hopes for him. Let's avoid name calling, liberal bashing, conservative hate, etc. That just does everyone a disservice.
Pelosi, O and the bunch don't have the balls to do it...nm
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Low class for that bunch ain't news to me.....
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I saw it too. What a bunch of brainless blabber.
Ultra-left garafabarf skank.
their deeds won't be lost....they get a bunch of
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