Geez. No one is bashing you....
Posted By: Observer on 2008-03-27
In Reply to: You have this incorrect. - Taiga
You post under both monikers and denied it for a long time, then finally admitted it. Not bashing, just the truth. And when I started posting as observer on the conservative board and liberal board when both existed, no one else was using that moniker and did not, and I did not know you had used it (yet ANOTHER one) before I started using it. No one said anything to me when I started using it, including YOU, until the issue was raised about Teddy/Taiga. So, you are the architect of fiction, not me. And as to portraying the truth...I suppose one must be able to recognize it. No synopsis to it, Teddy/Taiga. The truth, and no need to check the archives. You know and I know the truth, and anyone who has been posting and following this knows the truth too. What I don't understand is why you are making such a big deal about it. You posted using two monikers, denied you were doing so when confronted, and finally copped to it. It was not a big deal then and is not a big deal now.
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Obama bashing versus Palin bashing... sm
Obama will be in the forefront for the next 4 years, assuming the electoral college pans out the way the popular vote did and providing his BC holds up in court.
Palin, on the other hand, has gone back to the frozen tundra. Whether she resurfaces in 2012 remains to be seen, but can't we just wait until then to start in on her?
Was bashing her, was bashing his choice of
her. I said she was not the MOST qualified. Did not say she wasn't qualified. I said he picked because she would help with the base. That's actually a compliment.
Rather than attacking, try to understand the content.
Geez....
right back at you, in spades.
Again, you never answered my question about is war ever justified? For any reason?
Children all over the world have no voice or very little voice. Fine. Should we just sit back and allow that to continue? I don't think so.
I never said a woman who had an abortion has no morals. I said I...me myself...I...believe abortion is morally wrong. If I...myself...made the choice to have an abortion that would be a morally wrong choice. Just like if I shot my neighbor. Morally wrong choice. If you shot your neighbor...morally wrong choice. When you lie...which we have all done...morally wrong choice. Does that mean we have no morals...no. Means we made a morally wrong choice. You are a very black and white person for a liberal. Generally liberals live in a world of gray.
It is no more a one-issue race for me than it is for you. YOU are one of the people you talk about. YOU would NEVER vote for a pro-life candidate. You need to take a long look in the mirror piglet.
I still wonder why you are so violently opposed to someone speaking for the child. Why on EARTH do you have such an issue with that?
Maybe it is NOT my business whether a woman has an abortion or not. What I think IS my business is that a child is killed in the process. And I feel that should be SOMEBODY's business. So sorry if that aggravates you. But will not stop me.
And how, in the name of all that is holy or NOT holy, can you say that abortion in any way, shape or form equals HUMANITY?
Geeezzzzz.
Oh geez....
conspiracy theories 101. Are you talking the Charlie Sheen version of "the truth?" sigh.
Geez. lol. nm
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Oh geez
Now that's gonna be the excuse huh? The machines flipped votes from O to McCain??? Get a grip people...I guess O will try absolutely anything to "win"..I envision another "Bush/Gore" episode after this election. I'am sure O will not lose with dignity...
geez, really
you know that was exactly what i was thinking! as soon as i saw my mistake i thought oh no, that lady is gonna crawl out from under her rock with her red pen!
Geez, ought to tell my son that.
Maybe DH can use that tactic. Nah. He's a pussycat most of the time. I guess I could aggravate him on a day of an interview about politics, but then his BP would go off the scale. 
Oh, geez....
...now you've gone and told somebody what to do. You know how people feel about that on this board! Don't yell. Don't tell me what to do. Don't expect me to think.
Ah, geez...
I got in so much trouble for posting the E word!
Geez, what grossed me
was the thing with the little girl and the deer. What dark, lurid corners of his brain did this stuff come from? Yuck! And these people wag their fingers in our faces about morality? They need to look in the mirror.
Oh geez. The least you could do is get a new line...
you asked me that same question under a different moniker not long ago. At least get some new material. Geez! And as far as emailing you...not in this lifetime. I did that once...once burned, many time shy. You guys can get pretty hateful on this board, but a sailor could take lessons from you when you are uncensored...LOL Had enough of potty-mail all-tolerant liberals to last me a lifetime. And anybody knows you can have more than one email going to the same place. Geez. Get a new schtick. This one is oldddd.
Geez. You kill me....
however, I do like the moniker "spiteful little vixen." I may get stationery printed.
Good grief...you are the one exhibiting intolerance and hatred...yikes, someone must have spit in your post toasties this morning!!
You have slipped off the deep end, my friend. I don't know what cliches you mean, but if you are talking about the prayer at the top that was sincere...try to get hold of this, although your monster ego may not allow you to...there are OTHER posters here who live in South Texas or have family there, perhaps some I don't even know about, that was posted out of genuine concern and although I think you are several bricks shy of a load, I don't want to see you blown off the face of the earth, and whether you can get off your high horse down here to where there is enough air for your brain to work properly, I don't want illegals blown off the face of the earth either. I just want them to obey the law, come here legally, pay taxes like the rest of us and live happily ever after. And for that you want me tarred and feathered. Go figure.
And now that I have ascended to your level of sniping (thank you, I am learning much from you about verbal abuse), here's hoping I never do again...you have that area well covered.
What happened to that sabbatical? Gotta have the last word...sister, you got it. LOL. Signed, the spiteful little vixen....LOL
Geez. Of course I would be defending her....
her wealth has NOTHING to do with it. She is a first-time offender. You hate her because she is rich, that's obvious. I don't care how much money she has or does not have. She is a first offender. She should be treated like any other first offender. Barack Obama AND John McCain are for rehab, not incarceration, for first-time offenders. Neither of them tie it to wealth. Barack Obama is a millionaire. What if we were talking about Michelle Obama instead of Cindy McCain? You would be screaming at the top of your lungs to defend Michelle Obama and guess what...SO WOULD I. Even though I don't want her husband to be President and even though they are RICH. Your bias is showing.
Geez. Now you are using the hurricane...
the evening shift has arrived. Good evening! did you even look at the video of your dem buddy yucking it up? You don't have any moral high ground here.
Yeah...I be bad. Geez. lol. (nm)
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DOn't have to prove it....HE SAID IT. Geez...
did you read his letter? And I have been doing more research...you should too. This is not the end of the Saul Alinsky connection.
geez sally, is it also your god given right...sm
to be banned from posting on this web site? Because your heading that way. We'd be better off without you, but to be fair, why don't you just clean up your act?
There is a rule against profanity. You might want to look into that one, posted by the Moderators.
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Geez.... RANT ON!
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Geez....bigoted much????
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Geez, I had forgotten about that.....
sigh. Yet another reason Palin is better suited.
Geez. Well this speaks for itself. nm
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Geez, are you 5 years old?
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Geez. I have seen several on this board say....
not all Muslims were terrorists. Would have been a straightforward post had you not taken the lefty low road with the rest of the sheep will follow comment. And if you had been on the board for any length of time you would have seen many posts of mine where I have said not all Muslims are terrorists. However, with the exception of a couple of homegrown terrorists, ALL the terrorists who have attacked this country and attacked our interests and citizens abroad ARE Muslims...so I can understand a degree of paranoia with some. Don't agree with it, but can understand it.
Geez. His name and his color mean nothing to me....
his politics and policies do.
geez louise..
That was a very classy thing to do say, huh? Nice to know my fellow MTs are such kind and humane individuals.
Nobody's bashing you
Just because someone questions you it does not a bash make.
Who was bashing? sm
Someone pointed out, actually THREE someones, that a link was not working and you freaked out. Now, who is overreacting here? I tried to point out, nicely I might add, that the link was not working and you started with the only liberals could see it conversation. At least have the good graces to admit that this whole thing is blown way out of proportion. The link does not work. It just doesn't. If it works for you, I am surprised as all get out, because it just does not work for me. Settle down. Take a chill pill. No one is bashing you for Pete's sake.
What is bashing?
Thank you for your post, however, I do not need you to clarify what is a bashing post and what is not. Calling someone ignorant is not needed, debating is. I have participated in many debates both in college and within the internet and honestly debating can be done without disparaging another. Calling someone ignorant is a bash. However, you see the world one way, others see it another. Is not that reason enough to keep all posts and debates as kind as can be?
no bashing here, you are so right!
McCain is the man to lead right now. Palin is a great woman too. Obama is a good guy in many respects, but not to lead this country. He does NOT have the judgment, the depth of character or the right morality IMO. He is really a politician at heart, and its not a 'new kind of politics'... i think the senate is the best place for him.
Not bashing at all....I just wonder, though....sm
how many of you Obama supporters will even bother to admit if and when Obama does not live up to your expectations.
I noticed how no one on this board today, could even be bothered about the one issue I raised in my post, of Obama's lack of discretion, and outright disdain for our current president, by leaking their private conversation, and then lying about it. And then coming out and admitting he lied about it (or rather, his campaign supposedly said all these things and leaked them, etc...but he was the one in the oval office, not his campaign, and thus it came from him....).
Not a word from you on that subject.
No bashing here, BWT........ sm
I agree with you on all points. But the point I was making is now is the time to buy cheap and hope for an increase on your money in the future....and it will be WAY in the future.
We're all in the same boat sinking at the same time, and you're right, there is nothing Obama can do about it. Greed has gotten us to where we are, and not just the greed of the filthy rich either. I think we have about run our course here in America and the next years are going to be hard ones. I'll share my refrigerator box with ya!
Geez.....Obama has a CAMPAIGN ad....
about issuing a windfall profits tax on oil companies (private profits, earned) and redistributing that to people as a freebie who did nothing to earn it. I didn't make that up. His campaign ad says it very clearly, in his own voice, and then it says "I am Barack Obama and I approved this message." An yes, they run the ad on Fox too, as well as most of the networks.
I have read his tax plan. What I didn't read is how he intends to pay for it. I would be asking the same questions if Hillary was running and saying the same things. But she isn't. He is.
geez. Look at your own time line...
Nagin asked that Bush declare an emergency. Bush declared an emergency. That's all Nagin asked for.
Bush tried to get Blanco to abrigate authority to the feds so they could do what they needed to do. Did you not listen to any of her press conferences where she said she was not going to do that? She was a Democrat, it was a Republican administration,. You do the math. You should at least be fair enough to distribute blame to ALL.
Oh geez -- my 401K is now LESS than half of
And the feds are now going to buy STOCK in failing companies with the bailout money. Real intelligent. Where's MY 'bailout' ?
geez. I am NOT trying to start trouble...
I am seriously, honestly asking what this means. I didnt hear any audio and I dont live in Harlem and I am just curious what this means, if I am to take this how I THINK it sounds. I do realize that I could be taking it wrong and so I am trying to reserve judgment until I know what it means.
Geez...you guys are still ranting about the b/c?
The man ran for president. He has more enemies than you can imagine. If there was anything to this b/c thing, it would have already been run through the mill. They can come up with the mess about his aunt who he barely knows, but they can't come up with some real dirt about the b/c? Please get real. You are grasping at straws.
Geez...where do you guys get this stuff?...(sm)
The middle east is simply hoping for a break from the Bush policies, as well as policies previous to Bush if the truth be known. For example, the majority over there would like to see us quit pampering Israel (and rightly so, I might add). They would like to see the US treating them like people instead of just putting in dictators that we like.
Obama hasn't won these people over yet. They are simply waiting to see what he does. They understand the concept of actions speak louder than words. So actually, they are just giving him a chance to show what he will do -- unlike pubs here in the states, but I wouldn't go so far as to say he has won them over. He has a long way to go to get there.
Oh geez - are you still here? Yeah, same-sex marriage
this act was most likely done by a heterosexual male. And you know what? Sometimes the most heinous acts are committed by ultra-religious people. So your standard of 'morals' doesn't apply here. Get on the internet someday and look up how many sex offenders live in YOUR neighborhood, maybe even right next-door or across the street. Their offenses have nothing to do with what you think is the 'loose morals' of the country, it has to do with the mental illness of the perpetrator.
BTW - how old are you, anyway? 85? 95? 105? It seems like, in your mind anyway, you're living in a time that was more than a century ago.
Hey Geez Louise - why didn't you say this
when it was started up above. The Palin bashing is getting old....very very old. Last I knew Palin is not the president, she and McCain lost the election, and she is not the president, and as much as the democrats want this to happen so they can destroy her personal life more, she is not going to be running for president or VP in the next election. She'll be actively involved in politics, which she should be. She is a successful governor whether the democrats want to believe it or not, but why didn't you say "Enough with the garbage" when the OP was making an attempt to belittle her.
The statement that Palin is called the leader of the GOP party is about as priceless as saying Rush is the leader of the GOP party. Two of the most hated people on the democratic side. But it doesn't make it true.
However, unlike the OP statement which is not true, this statement about appointing people who don't pay their taxes it true.
Let's try to be a little fair here.
Geez, what garbage you spew, sm
Sorry for being so blunt, but what has he done to make you think he is the anti Christ? Today he stood up and said to the Muslim countries that their wives and daughters had just as much to contribute as their sons. He is not pandering to the Muslim countries. He is standing firm for equality. Do you have a problem with this? I am a Christian and I think that if the question were asked "what would Jesus say?", he would say "Job well done my son".
Why the Bush Bashing?
Your post is nothing more than that. Grow up, get a life that is filled with something other than hate.
why the bush bashing?
Spoken like a true conservative republican..if someone does not agree with you or live like you or vote like you or have the same beliefs or morals like you, you attack them personally, without any basis in fact for the attack. Get a life? Grow up? Things that have been posted here about Bush are the truth..PERIOD..yet, you turn around and attack personally, not knowing anything about the posters. I am grown up and do have a life, full of wonderful things and also full of politics and I will post and shout out and write editorials to the newspapers on this corrupt murderous administration any time I feel like it. Thank you very much. Now, why dont you go back to the Conservative Bush sheep section.
bashing bush
I do not see the media bashing Bush, honestly I still wonder why so Americans voted for him - so confusing our Country has never been in the Pearls it is in today, our poor troops!!!!!!
It is not dissent, it is bashing..
The whole gist of your post is bashing. When I complain about bashing of liberals on the liberal board, you reply by bashing even more....and not just bashing me, but all liberals. Why does it bring you so much pleasure to hate so many?
I don't really want an answer, I'll not read any more of your posts, or AG's crowing about you and her slamming the liberals on the liberal board. They are garbage.
Obama bashing
I agree about the measure of success. It's relative. A 4 or 5 point bump isn't exactly chicken-feed when you are already in the lead, but the success of his trip is not about the polls. They will bump and slump a hundred times between now and November for both candidates and because they are skewed, construed and misconstrued, they are not that meaningful one way or the other, especially since we still have not even made it to the conventions. What Obama succeeded in as a byproduct of his accepting McCain's challenge is that he did not exactly come across as some inexperienced rookie as McCain had hoped he would. Instead, he was well received among world leaders who were obviously quite comfortable around him, some of whom expressed their open support and acceptance. He came out of this trip with an impressive stash of diplomatic capital, something that McCain has yet to even recognize as being desirable or advantageous.
It is impossible to measure the numbers of people who were or were not "impressed" by his world citizen identity, but it is possible to be one and be a patriotic American at the same time. It's not a right or wrong, either/or thing. It is phrase that reflects an approach or attitude toward world view and is more accurately defined as a philosophy behind foreign policy that does not in any way diminish love of country. For those who promote diplomacy as an effective and viable alternative to war, it is well understood. For those who don't, it is just more fodder for personal attack and is often misrepresented as a lack of allegiance. This accusation is ludicrous and insulting. Many believe that the desire to avoid and/or prevent war is the ultimate expression of love for country and it is those people who he represents well.
This "hoohah" statement makes no sense. For the sake of clarity, diplomacy is a 4-letter word for those who subscribe to the belief that diplomatic world citizens are un-American. The Berlin speech sure didn't look so "little," with 200,000 in attendance. When did McCain ever spark such interest and excitement? It does not matter where the speeches are made. It is the message that counts. The time is now for a US president who inspires admiration and unity, rather than division, hatred and terror.
The surge is part of a war that did not work, is not working and will never work. Wasn't it just yesterday and the day before that Bush and McCain said something to the effect that the invasion of a sovereign country was inappropriate for the 21st century? Hypocrites. The horrors of war are the horrors of war, no matter who wages them in no matter what country. The surge is not a black and white issue. It is honest NOT to express support for something he does not believe. Personal attacks like this are not issues, they are tactics that lower the bar on the issues dialogue. The dynamics between Obama and the Reverend run much deeper than political expediency and these cheap shots are not exactly honest either. Long-term, meaningful relationships between people who hold diametrically opposed ideals are nothing new. They happen in families all the time. Michelle and Obama were not in South Chicago as part of some clandestine black militant conspiracy. They were doing neighborhood outreach that paralleled many of Trinity church's programs. To dismiss this subject with even that one statement does not do this subject nearly the justice it deserves.
Here's that information void again. Fox and CNN played a sound byte out of context over and over and over and over. A fifth grader could recognize this as propaganda. This does not constitute "so much information," and in fact, is no information at all. To understand his relationship with Rev Wright and that church requires an open mind, knowledge of black history and of Obama's background and biography, a willingness to step out of a comfort zone long enough to face some harsh realities about race in America and most importantly, a desire to understand. Anyone who parrots the trash that Fox and CNN put out on this subject obviously does not possess those traits and will simply have to be left to fester in their own hatred. These statements are made with a very straight face.
The name calling also is not worth addressing. However, there are plenty of white folks and blacks alike who are not black liberationists who can plainly see that it is time to reign in the corruption of the corporations and all their "special" interests, with the "R" word (regulation). How exactly did Ken Lay and his ilk earn those obscene salaries and perks at the cost of those whose hard work stuffed huge profits into their pockets, and just how many lives did they destroy in the process? In a country of such vast wealth, the plight of the homeless, the depths of the poverty, the existence of hunger, the shrinking middle class, the job flight for the sake of endless corporate greed, the foreclosure rates and the health care crisis (just to name a few) are a national disgrace. What some call Marxism/socialism, others think of as simple, basic humanity. It is time for that one fundamental American value to be restored for all our sakes, once and for all.
I wasn't bashing you
I read your post above where you were claiming everyone was bashing you and you were innocent and just defending yourself. I just want you to know I read my post again and I was not bashing you in case you included me in the group of all the people bashing you.
However, here you are calling me a liar. You also are claiming I am not a religious person, and I'll quote you... "You obviously are not a religious person, but that does not mean you are not a moral person, does it?" First telling me I'm a liar and I'm not a religious person, while you may not call that bashing, I call it disrespectful. You don't know me or my religious background and I take offense to someone who makes judgement about me without knowing me.
You also do not know my viewpoints on abortion but are assuming I'm for it. I find abortion dispicable and vile and I posted that awhile back when you first posted about abortion. So don't assume anything.
And how hard is it to not read posts on abortion? Very hard when it seems to come up every day or two. And when its all in capital letters???
It's time to stop playing the victim saying everyone is picking on you and your tired of being attacked when your the one doing the attacking on others for not believing the way you do and not wanted to discuss abortion every day. I see a lot of people are tired of the subject but your answer is "If that chaps you, so be it".
I really do hope other political issues will be on this board so we can put the abortion subject behind us. Enough has been said about it and it's getting old.
skip the bashing for a second, sim
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note: this was in no way gay-bashing, as i am gay too,
but i just had to laugh at the mental image of a pitbull with lipstick, trying its best not to look like a 'klondyke'.
No bashing from me. Just agreement.
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How is this bashing Obama?
She gave you a quote--Obama's own words--and you're not getting it. He identifies with socialists and socialism. That IS the issue.
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