From innocent pub plant in a rally to podium sidekick
Posted By: in front of a rally...yeah.... on 2008-10-30
In Reply to: Excuse me....put yourself out there?? - sam
put himself out there. For some, Joe is the everyman's man...for other's, the everyman's sham, and the spectator's seem to be fairly equally splint on that impression of him. No sympathy for the plant. Beating your gms and getting all exercised over this is a waste of time and isn't going to clean up the mess McC made with Joe the unlicensed. BTW, when getting all outraged over Joe's invasion of privacy, let's don't forget McCain's hand in that one, OK?
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Honey, a plant in the RALLY to yell those alleged things...nm
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plant
I don't know about that, but I do know what Obama said to him.
Whether Joe was really a plant or not
really doesn't matter. The bottom line is the dems were ready to attack a nobody because of unpaid taxes and yet pubs are ridiculed for attacking appointees because of unpaid taxes. Still a double standard from where I'm sitting and someone appointed to office is a heck of a lot more concerning to me than some guy off of the street who is a plumber. LOL!
I would assume that Obama didn't know these people had unpaid taxes, but he shouldn't have stood by them. Geithner running the IRS troubles me greatly. Whether he is a crook or honestly did make a mistake, he is now heading up the IRS? Still don't get that.
I understand that some are going to nit pick any person that Obama chooses, but to me unpaid taxes is a pretty big thing and for dems to freak out about people being overly critical of who Obama wants to appoint and trying to blow off unpaid taxes......well they didn't have the same view point when it came to a nobody off of the street who asked a simple question and for once got an honest answer out of our President.
Double standards. I'm so sick and tired of politics. Just like the dems crying out fearmongering by the pubs over last years bailout and now look what Obama is doing.....using the fear factor. Both sides are just full of crap. They always yell at the other side for doing something that they themselves have done or will do in the political arena. It is a joke really and yet here we all are doing the same thing.
who care if he is a plant?
He is related to Keating! that's even funnier
More like a plant from the O campaign
What a better way to get a "racial thing" going. All the racial stuff is coming from the O side. McCain and Palin don't go there, but O sure knows how to use the race card.
Joe the plumjber was a plant.....
And Obama's team looked for the most qualified without ensuring they were squeaky clean - their bad. I am sure if you put Bush's appointees under the microscopic, you would find just as much corruption if not more. Politicians are corrupt and Obama put his trust in the hands of those who forgot how much of a microscope will be on every single candidate. He will learn the hard way what a dung pile Washington is.
Probably a plant from the O side...would she sue if she heard....
anyone threatening the other side at an O rally? Probably not.
kind of interesting about Ford plant
http://info.detnews.com/video/index.cfm?id=1189
Note the comment about UAW at the end.
GM suspended work at Flint Plant and
will likely file bankruptcy.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/12/16/AR2008121602675.html
http://www.reuters.com/article/rbssConsumerGoodsAndRetailNews/idUSN1748966920081217
We have a meat packing plant in my town
it has been here for 60+ years and never had problems getting those "lazy" Americans to work. My uncle was employed there for years and it was backbreaking work. He wasn't lazy. He was trying to feed his family. Over the past few years, the owner has tried to sneek in illegals so he could pay less as well as a construction business making roof framework for homes. They never have had trouble finding hard working folks; they just want to get the job done for LESS and LESS. So, please don't try pulling that "lazy" American routine.
Rally
Why is it when someone tells you that you would rather go to a campaign and hear the issues, and what the candidates plan for the future of the country, that we are spewing hatred, fear and smear tactics. That is absolutely ludicrous what you have said, and you really need to watch what you say. I was saying that I personally want to go and hear the candidates tell me what they are going to do to help this country. I don't need a rock concert to "fog the issues." A brilliant campaign? A brilliant campaign of hope because he had Bruce S. A brilliant campaign because he has a free rock concert to get you there? I guess my values are totally different, but I never said anything in hatred. Why is it when truths are pointed out to you that you don't want to hear it, and discount it because you don't agree? I have been through many things and have seen a lot. Don't cry to anyone when you cannot afford your utilities, get a loan or anything because you did not want to have your life bubble burst. Just thoughts on the matter. You are the only one who can make yourself happy NOT anyone else. Just think about it that is all. I wish you no ill will nor your candidate. I just think I have a right to my opinon, but then I guess I don't because you might get offended.
Yes, if you look at the pictures of the rally.....
that sign WAS pretty prominent...along with others with various other epithets. What, pray tell, does that have to do with a *peace* rally? What does vandalizing govt property have to do with a *peace* rally? In my opinion, it seriously undermines the credibility of said *peace* rally.
Palin rally in PA
Palin is speaking in Latrobe, PA. She is being heckled from the audience...people yelling "You are an a**hole." Her kids are there on stage in their costumes for goodness sakes!
Great Rally
I was a great rally in Canton, Ohio ... Sarah and Todd Palen. They did not have Bruce Springsteen (thank goodness). They don't need hipe to tell people what the country knows we need. They don't have to "entertain people" to get them to vote for the right person for the highest job in the land.
A candidate that knows how to rally? I don't want a candidate to rally!!!!! I want a candidate to speak of the things they stand for, and their values, and what they plan to do in the White House. If I cannot "rally" in my own heart, and my own values, then no one can do that for me...
A great rally is one that starts at home, and shows up in our lives and the way we vote. Not a place where all you hear is guitars and sound machines. Too bad they have have to go to extremes like that to "tease people" into voting for them.
chicago rally
Maybe Oprah will show up.
Bring us out of the 20th century and plant our feet firmly
Keep it simple.
Hershey closing York Peppermint Patty plant in PA
And is moving their plant to MEXICO. It's situations like this where NAFTA should be renegotiated and remove any profit incentive for companies to take away American jobs like this.
Although I really like York Peppermint Patties, I don't think I'll continue to buy this product.
Hershey closing York Peppermint Patty plant in Pa.
By Associated Press
POSTED: 03:30 p.m. EST, Feb 20, 2009
READING, Pa.: Production of York Peppermint Patties and other candy brands is coming to an end at The Hershey Co. plant in Reading.
After 23 years in Reading, the chocolate maker is closing the plant today and moving production to a new factory it has built in Monterey, Mexico. Hershey says it will mean the loss of about 260 jobs in the southeastern Pennsylvania city.
The plant also makes 5th Avenue and Zagnut candy bars and Jolly Rancher hard candies.
The nation's largest candy manufacturer announced two years ago that the plant would close as part of a wider move by Hershey to eliminate 1,500 jobs and one-third of its existing production lines, shifting more manufacturing to contractors in the United States.
Some workers will stay on for a few more weeks to close the plant.
READING, Pa.: Production of York Peppermint Patties and other candy brands is coming to an end at The Hershey Co. plant in Reading.
After 23 years in Reading, the chocolate maker is closing the plant today and moving production to a new factory it has built in Monterey, Mexico. Hershey says it will mean the loss of about 260 jobs in the southeastern Pennsylvania city.
The plant also makes 5th Avenue and Zagnut candy bars and Jolly Rancher hard candies.
The nation's largest candy manufacturer announced two years ago that the plant would close as part of a wider move by Hershey to eliminate 1,500 jobs and one-third of its existing production lines, shifting more manufacturing to contractors in the United States.
Some workers will stay on for a few more weeks to close the plant.
http://www.ohio.com/news/break_news/39968037.html
he was *detained* during a protest rally...
for the moment - but they have been after Gary for decades - I recently saw him on Bill Maher explaining it all....GREAT GUY by the way, Gary....
After seeing that McCain rally yesterday I am...sm
beginning to get very worried that there may be retaliation in some way. Those people were over the top!
I don't hear anyone at an Obama rally saying ...sm
John McCain is a traitor and that he should be killed. This is very scary to most Americans that hear it, very radical to wish a presidential candidate dead! Neither one blinked an eye when supporters shouted these things out.
Did you see the big rally against Palin in Alaska? sm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNlcYaEOLRM
Excellent speech at Pentagon Rally sm
I do not care what anyone says about this woman, I think she is great.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5G3eq-I7CzM
You must be referring to the Scranton rally (2nd report).
very much under investigation. By the way, did you forget to post the link? I don't see it here.
Joe the plumber was a plant! Talk radio knew about him BEFORE he asked Obama a question
He is related to Charles Keating of the Keating 5 scandal that McCain was involved in.
U.S. Troops Secured Baghdad Rally for Hezbollah...sm
So our troops are in Iraq securing an anti-American rally. Can someone shed some logic on this whole thing?
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U.S. Troops Secured Baghdad Rally for Hezbollah
U.S. troops provided some of the security for the rally in Baghdad today where thousands of Iraqi Shiites demonstrated for Hezbollah:
Radical Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr summoned his followers around the country to attend a mass rally today in the city's Sadr City district in support of the Shiite militants of Hezbollah battling Israeli troops in southern Lebanon.
Iraqi government television said the Defense Ministry had approved the demonstration, a sign of the public anger over Israel's offensive in Lebanon and of al-Sadr's stature as a major player in Iraqi politics.
Crowds of young men began arriving in eastern Baghdad's Sadr City late Thursday and were housed in mosques and Shiite community centers. U.S. Army vehicles guarded approaches to the slum to prevent clashes between Shiite and Sunni extremists.
Dressed in white shrouds to indicate their willingness to die for the cause, demonstrators waved Hezbollah flags and chanted death to Israel and death to America:
I consider my participation in this rally a religious duty. I am proud to join this crowd and I am ready to die for the sake of Lebanon, said Khazim al-Ibadi, 40, a government employee from Hillah.
Al-Sadr followers painted U.S. and Israeli flags on the main road leading to the rally site, and demonstrators stepped on them with relish. Alongside the painted flags was written: These are the terrorists.
So the U.S. is simultaneously supplying bombs to Israel for use against Hezbollah; encouraging a ceasefire to stop the bombing; working with Sunni Arab states who fear a Shiite alliance across Iran, Iraq and Lebanon; propping up a Shiite-dominated Iraqi government; and protecting Iraqis eager to join Hezbollah and wipe Israel off the map.
No matter which side you've taken in the Middle East, America is on your side.
You go girl - 60,000 people attend her rally in Florida
Not bad for a town whose population is 70,000 people.
http://news-press.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080921/NEWS0107/80921022
Guess that 1-day stock market rally didn't exactly
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Stupid is planting a question at a rally designed
believing that the transparency of it all would escape the notice of the nation's voters. This is a classic case of McCain and his supporters underestimating the intelligence of te electorate they are so diligently trying to capture.
Like your no-class group that shouted "Kill Him" regarding O at a GOP rally? With Palin? or
don't you remember that? Bunch of hypocrites - you guys dish it but you sure don't like to take it.
I just spun the news channels and oops, what happened with the rally?
Started out on MSNBC and that was showing DNC pressures Norm Coleman , CNN showing ASU official stating "We Blew it", Prime News is showing about an 11 year old that committed suicide, so only on Fox actually now at 5:43 EST that is exactly what is on. My news channels here in Atlanta only showed probably about 5 minutes and then went on to important news.
I did not say innocent.........
She opted to have all of the eggs implanted (not the norm and outside ethical responsibility). They erroneously thought she had 7 viable fetuses (the 8th was hidden somewhere.....). The doc should have pushed for selective termination to reduce the number. The fact that she chose to carry them all to term indicates to me that she is short a few fries of a happy meal. I suspect she knew she would make headlines and that would ignite support from all over in the form of gifts, cash, etc., so she could continue her "puppy mill" in relative financial comfort. I still stand by the assumption she's nuts and the doc made a huge mistake.
I know that innocent
people have gone through horrible things when they were wrongly accused, etc. However, there are so many more of them that are guilty. My biggest problem with the death penalty is that it is so expensive. A rope or a bullet is a lot cheaper than lethal injections. I personally feel that if we were harsher on prisoners....more of them would stop doing it. A three strikes your out kind of thing. We have so many prisons that are overcrowded that criminals, rapists, etc. are being send out early risking many more innocent lives that way.
If Rove is innocent
why didnt he come forward before now and state what actually went down? Because of his silence, Judith Miller is in jail, Matthew Cooper was threatened with jail, thousands of tax dollars have been spent on a Grand Jury and a special prosecutor and now quite possibly a trial.
Yes, he was acquitted. But he was not innocent....
we all know that. We saw him commit perjury. National TV. Yes, my fangs are showing. I don't like it when Pres of US flaunts the law and Congress lets him get away with it. Actually, I blame Congress just as much, but sides of the house, because they did not have the integrity NOR the guts to convict him. At least when Nixon was proven to be guilty he still had a modicum of decency and resigned. Clinton did not have enough class OR integrity to do the same. 'Nuff said.
Oh of course....in the land where you are innocent if...
proven not guilty...you are seizing on poor judgment. Don't you think it is poor judgment to consort with terrorists and spend 20 years in an america-hating church? This is not bad judgment? McCain did not cost us anything. Keating, the one who perpetrated the financial debacle...is responsible for that loss.
Innocent people s/m
I hear that there is not a guilty person in prison. Another thing that needs fixed in our government at all levels, justice depends on how much money you have. I really, really doubt that there are that many truly innocent people on death row. I think that before an execution, there should be absolutely no doubt about guilt. Say O.J. and Scott Peterson. Don't you think they deserve the death penalty. Well, I know that O.J. was found not guilty but no doubt in my mind he was guilty as sin.
Good, they might be innocent. sm
They call Americans who quote the constitution or dissent terrorists.
Just like all those innocent folks were
due process. . .preach some of your idiocracy to their survivors.
I do not think that she was an innocent guinea pig....sm
How would you have reacted being informed within a couple of weeks by US that you will deliver not 1, but e i g h t babies, in addition to already having 6 ?
Wouldn't you have asked for a termination?
Do you also defend the innocent
people in our local prisons because I'm sure that there are a few in there who are actually innocent......however, most of them are NOT.
As for me not knowing for sure whether they were indeed tortured or not......how do you know that they were tortured? Were you there? Did you talk to them? Do you have a pin pal at Gitmo, do ya?
I'm sure there are some innocent men at Gitmo but this is war. It was war when the terrorists killed thousands of Americans in one day and then celebrated their actions. We have gone from a 9/11 mentality to a pre 9/11 mentality. We seem to have forgetten that we were attacked and that these people desire nothing more than our death.
these 4 are innocent Gitmos.............sm
' The four were among 17 Chinese Muslims, or Uighurs, picked up in Afghanistan and Pakistan in 2001. They remained at the military detention center in Cuba
even after the U.S. government had determined they weren't enemy combatants and should be released.
Their fate was in limbo for months while courts and nations debated their future.'
I'm not talking about innocent people
I'm talking about people who raping, pillaging, setting fires, shooting rescuers, and stealing ambulances. I have heard of no one but you defending this though I'm sure there's a minority fringe like you who are such as Molly Ivins etc. I think your post revealed to me how out of the mainstream of thinking you are.
By the way, New Orleans had one of the highest crime rates in the country before the hurricane. There are people from that city who are freely admitting that there were places you didn't want to be caught dead in.
Honestly you don't believe there is evil in the world. I really feel sorry for you for that, because one day you will most likely be a victim and then you will be very confused....
That's *innocent* until proven guilty...sm
I don't know which way it will go, but when you tell the truth your story never changes - his did over and over and over.
Yes, this is an innocent child. What if it ISN'T true?
What does this do to that 16-year-old? What about that?
JM is totally innocent of this same charge?
publically stepped up and appealed to his supporters to rein it in. O at least tries to do this when he sees tings getting out of hand.
I too am for defending innocent animals
People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals. ALL animals should be treated in a humane fashion.
I am offended that people will defend wildlife and endangered species but they think nothing of eating meat and animals that have been treated cruelly.
How can you say it's cruel to hunt animals, but you don't think it's cruel how chickens, cattle, pigs and other animals are treated before you (no, not you personally because I don't know if your a vegetarian) but people who are not vegetarians will think nothing and don't care how the animals they are eating are being treated.
what about those folks we swept up who are entirely innocent?
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Many of them are innocent and should be sent home to their families.
You should be more frightened of the American prisoners than the alleged terrorists that we have illegally held in Gitmo and tortured with the permission of George W. Bush and his cronies.
I am guessing Fort Leavenworth was there before you took up residence. If you don't like living near a prison, you are free to move.
They're ALL innocent...ask 'em!
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WHAT is GOOD about that? Especially if the prisoner is innocent.
Even the guilty ones might just confess to ANYTHING, just to stop the torture that often goes so far as to cripple a human being for life.
I defend all innocent people....nm
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