First time I've read that quote...scary (nm)

• Russia - dea
  • didnt hear the comment, missed it all - shelly
    • Comment - Marmann
  • "The truth about South Ossetia" - Marmann
  • Divide and conquer s/m - gourdpainter
    • It's sad. - Marmann
      • This time I agree it is sad - gourdpainter
        • I just wrote him - sbMT
          • Just got a generic reply - sbMT
            • I got generic reply, too... sm - m
              • In all fairness... - Kendra
                • I know - sbMT
                  • Oh--I'm with you there! nm - Kendra
        • Great idea, Gourdpainter. - Marmann
  • Correct if I am wrong, but at the moment this is - President Bush's problem...sm
    • "A diplomat he is not..." - Marmann
      • Bush/Saakashvili alliance is not about democracy. - It's about the oil (surprise, surprise)...sm
        • Yes, well....if you look at that region and who supplies... - sam
    • The commend from Russia was directed at the new... - sam
      • I agree with you. (no message below) - To Sam:
      • And you have this information on WHOSE authority? - Your take on communism...sm
        • And to clarify...I did not insinuate that the new Prez... - sam
        • in case it missed your keen eye and it looks as if it did... - sam
        • Bush was told by congress about mass destruction. - Harsh.
  • Yes, I am worried about Russia. - Russia.
    • I agree...have read the same thing. nm - MeMT
  • That is the modus operandi of Russia.... - sam
  • I have always been worried about Russia - Observer
    • First time I've read that quote...scary (nm) - dea
    • or the other quote...."we will take them over from inside... - sam

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East Ohio Gas has been using natural gas to fuel their utility trucks for years - why hasn't that caught on?  Makes ya wonder..............

Rush Limbaugh quoting excerpt from article by Rick Moran:

But even a victory by 'The Laughing Goat' ( La Cabra que Ríe) couldn’t possibly gladden the hearts and warm the cockles of liberals like the prospect of celebrating…what? Well, there’s that drop in the President’s poll numbers. And then there’s…let’s see. Oh! Did I mention the drop in the President’s poll numbers? Yes, these are heady days for our left wing friends. The fact that their celebrations are taking place as a direct result of the distress, suffering, anguish and death of tens of thousands of their fellow citizens seems to not be of much concern to our morally superior betters. In fact, it has emboldened them to advance every crack pot theory on race and class that has poisoned American politics for going on forty years. One could say the left is dancing on the graves of black people, celebrating the exploitation of a political opening brought about by the incompetence of relief efforts in the largely black neighborhoods of New Orleans. Except for one thing: most of those graves are empty at the moment because the future les habitants haven’t even been plucked from the floodwaters yet.

He's the man who's supposed to be in charge of this country at the present time.  Blaming the individual Presidential nominees for this is ridiculous.  They are one of how many?  The entire gov't is responsible for it and Bush is at the top.  This mess started when he was in office and he should be responsible for cleaning it up.  Perhaps he should give up his salary/pension.  Why should the taxpayers have to pay for the gov'tal leaders mistakes? 

I think politicians should start having to carry malpractice insurance.  Doctors are made to be responsible for their errors, so should the politicians. 

and it will not help the people that need help.  It doesn't provide help to the regular "joe's" out there that need help. It is all about the greed again. Most of it will only help regular "joe's" by the year 2011, not now.  By that time, we will either be down the tubes or everything will have corrected itself on its own.

I don't think government should meddle in ways to try to turn the economy around. It only mkes it worse. Look at all the handouts in the first stimulus package. Did the regular "joe's" get any help out of it? Nope. It will be the same with this one. Did you see Glen Beck's breakdown on the package posted below? If not, I suggest you look at it or else I can post it here.

It goes to show that the democrats don't give a darn about us, just their agenda even though 11 democrats voted against it. That has to say something.  Evidently, the democrats (and I don't mean this harshly) didn't get enough calls from their constiuents to knock this package into oblivion. They were in a hurry to pass it? Why? Not because it would help us, but because they wanted it passed before anyone really got a chance to see what it entailed.

Sorry, but I disagree with you whole heartedly. This will not help. It will only hurt. This will take our dollars down to zero and the next thing you know, we will be taking wheelbarrows of money to the store to buy a loaf of bread if you can even find it in the stores.

Yeah, I watch the Factor and Hannity and Coombs most days.  I like to see all sides of a story. 

But on to Rush who I don't give a raiting point and if this is the kind of babbling he does he would lose me everytime...

"You (liberals I assume he's talking about) are offended by all that, claiming they don't have the right to make such decisions, while you sit around and make no decisions whatsoever because you're willing to totally put your life in the hands of some liberal politician and that will take you off the hook for having to make any decision about your life or anybody else's...."

How does he know that?  He's making a big ASSumption.  Just another right wing nut trying to convince himself and anyone else who will listen that the left has no values and that you "the people" have all of the values, are the only ones who are God fearing, raise your families and care about America.  People like Rush do America a big DISservice, with this kind of garble being the #1 rated radio station there will never be any kind of unity among Americans. 

"You hope we lose it. You want to lose it because you want to embarrass the leaders of the country. What must your lives be like?"

I have never met or talked to a person who said they hope we lose the war.  This is nonsense.  What I think most opposers of the war believe is WE SHOULD HAVE GONE TO WAR IN THE FIRST PLACE, but that we have to at least stabilize the Iraq and start an aggressive pullout plan.  Iraqis have been freed of the terrible regime of Sadaam Hussein and once their country is stabilized, we have no reason to be there, you know seeing as if there are no WMDs there.  Iraqi National Security is their responsibility not ours.  We need to get our focus on American National Security.

anything for yourself, you would find that the sources for the charts I posted are, in fact, on the images.  It's called reading comprehension, studying history, looking at the facts....you know, all that stuff you guys don't like to do.

As for the text, that's all mine.  It came with the education.

check this out. It has some interesting info: Part 1 is a synopsis and most interesting is pages 8,9,10, and 11. I got as far as Pt. 3 and there is a table of contents on the first few pages to explain everything that is in that part of the report.

"Vol. 1, Comprehensive Report of the Special Advisor to the DCI on Iraq's WMD."

http://www.foia.cia.gov/search.asp?pageNumber=1&freqReqRecord=undefined&refinedText=undefined&freqSearchText=undefined&txtSearch=911&exactPhrase=undefined&allWords=undefined&anyWords=undefined&withoutWords=undefined&documentNumber=undefined&startCreatedMonth=&startCreatedDay=&startCreatedYear=&endCreatedMonth=&endCreatedDay=&endCreatedYear=0&startReleasedMonth=&startReleasedDay=&startReleasedYear=&endReleasedMonth=&endReleasedDay=&endReleasedYear=0&sortOrder=DESC

I wonder if the Catholic *terror group* was being spied on before or after this became public.  You know how truth and light are with the Bush crowd:  If you expose the truth about their actions, you WILL Plamegated, Swiftboated or just generally trampled on.

This just further proves that if you're not evangelical and born again, you may as well hang it up because you simply don't count as an American any more.  You don't belong either here on earth or in heaven as far as they're concerned.

They act more like the antichrist than people who follow the teachings of someone who was LOVING and TOLERANT, like Jesus.

Have you checked out your McSaint as thoroughly?  What about his hair-trigger temper for example?  Have you watched the video of his exchange with the mother of the Vet still MIA in the congressional hearing?  Not exactly a kindly man. What about the Palin investigation that the results of that investigation won't be released until after the election?

Could it be that if the majority of the people intend to vote for Obama (or against McCain) that the majority agree that McCain does not need to be in the White House?

I personally find McCain just as scary, if not more so, than Obama.

Bush has done a LOT of work on this during his administration (which isn't over yet) when he could have been doing things like securing our borders.  This is one of the reasons people are frightened of him and don't trust him.

I'm glad this is coming to the surface now so that Obama doesn't get blamed for all this later -- if there IS a "later."

Even got hypnotized. Supposedly guaranteed to quit. Lasted 5 hours. Thank heavens I never smoked anything stronger.

I will not vote republican for multiple reasons going back to the Reagun administration and I think Palin is a joke. It's like Dubya trying to put Harriett Myers on the supreme court - WHAT!!!!!  Lies? Lets talk about lies. Like being led into a war with no end in sight due to LIES. Our children being slaughtered in that country for nothing - except maybe oil. Tax cuts? I don't know about you, but I'm not in the upper 10% tax bracket, so I didn't reap any benefits from the so-called "tax breaks." Lets not forget the worst deficit this country has ever seen all due to Dubya's reckless spending. And never, never, never forget Katrina. That was genocide. Let's toss in Bill Clinton's "sexual misconduct." Hmmm.....I don't want anyone in my bedroom. That was Hillary's problem - not the country's. But we have Foley playing footsie with the congressional pages, whatshisname and his wide stance in airport bathrooms and don't forget that religious nut who was good buddies with Dubya and visited the white house on occasion that was snorting meth and having sex with a male prostitute. How's that for family values????? No child left behind? What a crock. We have been manipulated over and over by the current administration as well as by the media. They swallowed the Kool-Aid, too; until Katrina. It took that disaster to open their eyes, but they seem to have closed again. We have the patriot act, no habeas corpus and if the republicans get in again, they will line up the supreme court with their right-wing fanatics who think that everyone should abide by their MORAL rules. You cannot legislate morality. And anyone with half a brain would realize that abstinence does not WORK. Palin's daughter for example. Take away birth control, take away abortion - who's going to pay for all of these kids? The republicans aren't going to fund any programs to help them. Lets just step back 50 years and start all over again. My God! Wake up!  You'll find more babies in dumpsters and illegal abortions will wend their way back into society creating more misery and death. I value my rights. I value the right to decide what is best for me. I don't think it is the right of our government to determine the outcome of my life. I guess it does take 8 years to ruin a country. Look how divisive everyone is. Voting republican is voting against your own best interests. The trickle down theory DOES NOT WORK. You will not benefit from any of these proposals - they are proposed to keep big corporations and greed on the upswing. My parents retired with good pensions - will you? My parents had great insurance that paid the WHOLE bill - do you? My mother made more money when she retired (20 years ago) than I do currently. Wages have not gone up. Gas has gone up. Groceries have gone up. The cost of living has gone up as well as insurance policies, medications. Corporate America treats its employees like slaves. There is no compassion - just greed. Vote republican and you will fall on your own sword. Bill Maher said it best "Americans are stupid and are getting stupider; they deserve the leader they elect." I am praying Obama who graduated from Harvard due to his own sweat and hard work gets elected. He wasn't born with a silver spoon in his mouth and he knows what it is like to be on the ugly end of the stick.