Face up to facts. Oops - not the Democrat way.
Posted By: get real on 2009-01-19
In Reply to: lies, lies, lies. - Ditzel
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I guess you don't like to face the facts
There is a link that I included. His half brother and he were raised as muslims. If your a Christian that's a big deal, if your not religious at all its no big deal (or maybe it is).
You are the one who needs to get with the program. You don't want to face the facts about Obama and his background and what he believes in, stands for, or has voted for/against. Your hatred for one candidate blinds you to what the other candidate is really about.
Sorry but this is not "crock" and it was not refuted, just the democrats tried to cover it up. So you need to "get with the program" and stop believe all hogwash you are being fed by the liberal media.
There is a link. There is picture. And there is proof - his own brother! What part of this don't you understand.
Don't insinuate I'm stupid - your the one who won't face facts
He has a half brother and other siblings by his bioligcal father. You need to do your research. His half sister is from his biological mother.
Research and comprehend before you acuse other people of being stupid.
And no need to get nasty -If you don't like the facts then pass this post by.
Oops...should be "checking" the facts (nm)
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How can she be ready to face our nation's problems when she won't even face any questions on h
she is just a big gimmick to get the women voters that were bitter about Hillary's loss.
She's supposed to be this tough pitbull but she won't campaign out on her own or is allowed to talk to the press ?!?! More like a chicken if you ask me than a pitbull.
Abiding with the moratorium....I think if we all worked face-to-face (sm)
We could all talk about our differences as friends. Some we would get along with and others not but we could talk about all of it respectfully with each other. Having the anonymity makes us all probably take things up a notch or two higher than we would in person, but I suspect we would all be making the same points, just in person. That said, with election day being tomorrow, I hope that all of us, no matter who is elected, will make the best of the situation and try to be kind to our fellow human beings regardless of race or religion.. Good night and Amen...lol 
Facts are facts - sorry you don't like it cos it doesn't support your candidate
You can't change facts. That's what makes them facts. You may not like it but that's the way it is.
Facts are facts. No bash intended.
It will be this stellar record from which voters will be assessing her and her running mate.
If you're offended, too bad. Facts are facts...
I know Muslims in this country who have turned from the hateful evil beliefs that were forced down their throats. They did not have the freedom to learn anything else growing up. But after they gained their freedom and came here, they were able to receive the Word of God and they have told me that NEVER were they taught anything about loving others, just other Muslims, and that the God they learned about spoke of nothing but killing and hate... so if Obama is receiving large donations from those middle eastern countries, as you say, and he is grounded in Muslim culture, being taught this in school for years as a child, do you honestly think he doesn't carry some of those beliefs with him? He's never denounced it.
Here ya go.........
http://bibleprobe.com/muhammad.htm
stating facts folks, just the facts....if it's getting
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Folks want facts, you give'm facts and still
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This poster wants facts, facts, facts...
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Poster wants facts, facts, facts.....
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i wish we could be face to face
man lady you are something you know that? did you get on here to stir the pot or something? i am a woman that can conceive and I will tell you that I think you are a horrible person for thinking it is okay to get rid of your baby. There, I said it. that is MY opinion. Gonna try to get me banned now? Go ahead. Cry about it why dontcha?
Here it is, right in your face!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It's from the documentary "Media Malpractice - How Obama Got Elected"
Ever heard of YouTube? Or the internet? Amazing that you're the only one in America who hasn't seen the footage.
Go to www.howobamagotelected.com if you're interested in seeing the truth (which I doubt).
And here's an quote from the Zogby poll that inspired the film.
"UTICA, New York -- Just 2% of voters who supported Barack Obama on Election Day aced the post election test which gauged their knowledge of statements and scandals associated with the presidential tickets during the campaign, a new Zogby International poll shows.
Only 54% of Obama voters were able to answer at least half or more of the questions correctly.
The telephone survey of 512 Obama voters nationwide was conducted Nov. 13-15, 2008, and carries a margin of error of +/- 4.4 percentage points.
Obama voters did not fare nearly as well overall when asked to answer questions about statements or stories associated with Obama or Biden --
83% failed to correctly answer that Obama had won his first election by getting all of his opponents removed from the ballot.
88% did not correctly associate Obama with his statement that his energy policies would likely bankrupt the coal industry.
Nearly three quarters (72%) of Obama voters did not correctly identify Biden as the candidate who had to quit a previous campaign for President because he was found to have plagiarized a speech.
In addition to questions regarding statements and scandals associated with the campaigns, the survey also included a question asking which political party controlled both houses of Congress leading up to the election -- 57% of Obama voters were unable to correctly answer that it was Democrats."
Ignorance elected Obama. You're a prime example.
Well, on the face of it....
a "national security force" and Obama's statement about it does sound "Hitler-ish." Hitler's national security force was Gestapo. You really think we need a national security force in the US? We have the National Guard...ahhhh but the National Guard is in control of the individual states and that would not serve the same purpose as a "national security force" operating under the President...does it? Basically a military strength and trained force that functions as a police force gets around posse comitatus. That little statement of Barry's didn't give you the least bit of pause?
On face value, no exploitation. But
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And you better be glad that someone is willing to get in their face....
because that is all they understand, and that is why we have not had another attack in this country. It is precisely THIS kind of thinking that we DO NOT need in the white house. Diplomacy is fine...and many times it works. But your enemies have to know that if hit, you will hit back hard. I have no faith that Barack Obama would act decisively (like Clinton with Khobar Towers, the first world trade center bombing, the COle, and on and on and on). I don't want things like that happening again. I want them sitting back on their heels like they are now. John McCain will keep them there and he won't be having tea with Ahmadinejad without rules. It just shows that Barack Obama has no clue what he is dealing with. No clue.
Yes, that is very true....but now he has to face everyone...
not just Democrats. Personally, the association with Wright did not put me off Obama. What put me off was the Marxist tones of the theology taught in that church, Obama's teaching of Alinsky's techniques, and already trying to implement Marxist principles. I admit, that is alarming to me. I can't hold Obama personally responsible for what his pastor said and never did...I can hold him responsible for his actions. As can we all with ANY candidate...be it McCain, Palin, Obama, or Biden.
It is not a slap in the face.... sm
take it however you like, that is my personal opinion. We have a lot of great women leaders and yes a lot of women have fought for our rights as women, but that has nothing to do with a women running this country. Again, my personal opinion and why should I go and be a man because that is how I feel. Different people with different opinions, part of what makes the world go round. I feel the way I feel and I am not ashamed of it.
You really just proved the exact reason I stated women are not ready to lead this country. You reacted with emotions stating I should be ashamed and I am a disgrace, you were GUIDED by your EMOTIONS/FEELINGS. Goodnight!!
...where they don't have to face the truth.
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That face was priceless!!!
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let's face it, none of those people
buy their clothes from wal-mart and it would not take much to rack up 150,000, especially when identical suits were bought in 2 or 3 sizes just to make sure one would fit. I don't think we got all the truth of that one; without a definite source being named, I am suspicious.
Ok, let's try another face on this whole thing.....
SO IT IS OKAY TO KILL BABIES BUT NOT TORTURE TERRORISTS?
Somewhere we have gotten our priorities wrong. We should be more worried about the unborn than a bunch of terrorists who could give a fat rat's backside about anybody but themselves.
Here's something to wipe the smile off your face. sm
She is an extremist as far as being pro-life. 
Did you see the look on George & Laura's face?sm
You know George bounced off the walls when he got home. There is only one look I found more hilarious, and that was the look on Mike Myer's face when Kanye West made the famous statement George Bush does not care about black people.
It sounds good on the face....
but I don't see American physicians taking a 3x cut in their income. It boggles the mind to think what the initial cost of that billing system they are talking about would be. And the big thing that concerns me is the "broad taxes on earned and unearned income." Like I have said over and over...if they can find the money without taking more than 35% off the top of my wages, I am all for it. However, I am not willing to go to 50-55%. I don't know many who are.
Face it, this is a political issue.....NM
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Bush tries to save some face --
It looks like our wonderful govt is thinking about another stimulus -- remember those tax rebates we got back in the spring of this year? It was $600 an individual and $1200 a couple. The govt doesn't want to do quite the same kind of stimulus as last time because -- get this -- 80% of the Americans who received it used it to either pay down debt or bolster savings. Here's what they want the new stimulus to do:
•The extension of unemployment benefits and possibly food stamps from 39 to 52 weeks.
•A boost in infrastructure spending, despite the problems of getting the money to work quickly.
•Some relief for state and local governments facing tighter budgets because of lower tax receipts and rising Medicaid costs.
God forbid we give something to the middle class -- let's extend the food stamps and boost the "infrastructure spending" -- what is that anyway? I'm guessing it's a way to line the pockets of the suits even more. When is it going to end?
cut off your nose to spite your face...
You better look beyond your bank account today at which you are asking for because if you get your way, you will NEVER have a bank account that is yours again. You will have nothing that will be your own. Socialism = public rather private ownership. In other words, if you have it, everyone else owns it! how's that for your bank account?
It was supposed to be a smiley face
I guess I must have accidently deleted some of it.
When you do a post (not a quick reply) it will give you some smileys at the bottom that you can drag into your post, but if your not careful you can accidentally delete or add a letter into the javascript and it will just put a bunch of crud in there! (Like I did!)
Sorry!
Don't mind him in my face. He's easy
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Face it - some of you Debbie-Downers won't be
After a while, all your complaints begin to sound the same and run together, into just one buzz of background noise that is easily tuned out.
Well, did Cheney give you a boo boo face too?
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Like a slap in the face as if we are an uneducated..sm
population.. It's even happening with those that are high degrees, well educated, making excellent wages.
It's simply that I take nothing from this source at face value.
I know some of the other side of issues that MM has addressed, I know what he does to produce some of the "effects" he creates, and I refuse to be sucked in by anything he does, most of which is deceitful.
I was trying to illustrate that you REFUSE to see what's in front of your face, that you must twi
it and turn it and manipulate it until it becomes something completely different and ugly, and you adopt THAT as the truth, when it isn't even close to what the real truth is.
Three fingers are three fingers. Nothing more. Nothing less. No hidden meaning. Just three fingers that the rest of the sane, intelligent, reasonable WORLD sees and recognizes as THREE FINGERS, as I said in my post.
I am SO with you on the religion in your face thing. My in laws are so sm
judgmental of nonChristians that it literally would make you ill. I am a Christian and a strong one, but I wasn't a Christian I would probably divorce my husband and move 3,000 miles away from all of them.
Nice talking with you.
I know.....kind of a silly statement on its face...
and I imagine you were not the only woman in America who wanted to or did throw a pillow at the TV.
Let's face it, he stands no chance of winning. However, with the
econmy in mind, he would definitely be the guy to fix this horrible situation we find ourselves in. My whole intention in giving my vote to Mr. Nader is this: I am not going to give up my right to vote, I will be at the polls and I will cast my vote. That being said, I am sick and tired of being lied to and manipulated. I am tired of having my intelligence insulted over and over again by politics as usual in Washington. I will cast a vote and send a message. I know that my tiny vote and its tiny message won't be heard, but I will have satisfaction in knowing that I followed my heart and I did not vote for any Washington liar. We need a change alright and neither McCain or Obama is going to bring it.
I have to face reality at some point and realize
While I hope its McCain, Obama “seems” to be in the lead. I say seems because I think a lot of what we hear gets distorted and I have to remember back to when Gore ran and everyone was 100% sure he’d win he didn’t. Also I think everyone was sure that Kerry would win and he didn’t. And I was also talking to my dad and he said when Kennedy & Nixon were running everyone was sure Nixon would win, but he didn’t. So I believe that there is nothing that we can be sure of and you just never know what could happen. And whether it is Obama or McCain, I hope the country will turn around and improve.
I’d like to share a couple thoughts as I’m curious if other people feel this way too.
First, I have to say that I’m sitting here with my ballot not filled out yet and not sure if I will even vote because the two choices are neither of whom I picked. I know I can write in anyone I want, but will that just waste my vote on nothing? While I’m a registered democrat there is just some things that are not sitting right and its on both sides. On the dem side I would have liked to have seen Richardson or Kucinich, and on the rep side I would have liked to see Ron Paul or Duncan Hunter. But no, who do they pick? John McCain. The guy who lost against Bush (talk about a bad omen). I just don’t get why they think he will win over Barack Obama if he couldn't even win over Bush. No doubt about it Barack Obama is a spectacular speaker. He seems well put together. So how in the world did they ever think McCain could win over him. I also don’t get it because Romney, Huckabee & Paul were doing very well in the primaries and McCain was not, but at the last minute all of a sudden McCain is picked. Maybe the “big plan” is they put in such a person on purpose so the democrats would win. One can only imagine. So with that said I’m not real trustful of the government and here I sit with my blank ballot wondering what to do.
While I am not for either of the candidates that are running for President I do happen to like both running mates. I actually hoped Biden would have been chosen for President, and even though I had no idea who Sarah Palin was, I do like her. Yes you can ridicule me all you like, but I could care less about the “fluff” stuff, I’ve read about what she has accomplished and I think she’s a fine person. My perfect ticket. Biden/Palin. HA HA HA. Please don’t flame me, I’m just trying to describe my dislike for the Presidential candidates.
While I do have to admit McCain just doesn’t seem to “get it”. There is so much he could bring up but he doesn’t and it makes me wonder how strong of a person he is and would he be good in the office. My husband adamantly flat out says “NO”. Then in the same breath he says but look at the other candidate. Both of them scare me. Not for anything the media says because I don’t believe or trust the media, but rather looking at their past records. I believe they are both saying what they believe we want to hear to get elected - isn’t that what all politicians do?
As for Obama’s tax hike, I don’t have to worry because I don’t make $250K or over, but at the same time I don’t want to receive from the people who do because that would not be fair to them. Especially someone putting in over 60 hours a week to make ends meet and now they are going to take some of that and give to me? What I do have to worry about is if he pulls a Bill Clinton and then lowers the tax rate and now people making 90K and up will have more taken from them. Then when he realizes he needs more money to fund all his programs he will then lower the rate and lower and lower. Then before we know it instead of getting taxed 23% on 30K a year we will be taxed 42 or 43% like we were under the last democrat president. So, we’ll just have to wait and see, and if it happens I will deal with it.
As for who’s to blame for what has happened with the economy there is enough blame to go around on both sides. You can’t honestly say it’s all the republicans fault or it’s all the democrats fault. That’s not fair because I’ve seen both sides against the bail out and both sides for it. It’s just a little disheartening to know that both candidates who want to be our leader voted for it (no matter what they said ahead of time). This is why I have a lot of distrust in them both.
Also what I don’t like is if I don’t vote for Obama because of his policies people will accuse me of being a bigot and will say I’m not voting for him just because he’s black (which is not true), but on the other hand there are people out their voting for him solely because he is black. Are they bigots too? (which as I stated earlier I have not voted for anyone yet).
What I am trying to do right now is research some of what Nostradamus predicted. It seems like I remember he had said something about what would happen to America. He predicted a lot from World Wars ad Hitler coming to rise, to the Twin Towers falling. Yes, I know some of his predictions did not come true, but he had more right than wrong. So I’m curious and researching some of his predictions to see if there is anything about the US and what will happen to our country. My husband says he believes there is. If I find something I can post if anyone is interested.
What I am wondering and starting to believe more and more is maybe this is our time and its up. If you believe in Armageddon or Nostradamus or another other future events maybe it’s already set in stone that our time has come. Maybe we have lived a little too much of “the good life” and now its time for a transformation in America and that is why Obama will get in. Some of us believe we may not “deserve” it and a lot of people probably think its nonsense, but we have to remember we thought we would never be attacked before 9/11 either. So, I’m not saying I think we deserve it, but just a thought that maybe our time has come. So wonder if others think this way too, or am I just hitting heavy on the “Ju-Ju Juice”. HA HA
Would like to hear your thoughts. Please no slams. I tried not to slam any of the candidates so nobody would get offended. There’s plenty I don’t like about all of them, and some I do like about all of them. I just feel really mixed up right now and wonder if others are like me (or am I just weird).
Denial is where we belong in the face of such lies.
you cannot turn these lies into truth.
Let's face it, with the fighting going on on this board, if we cannot come to agreements here....
How are all those politicians with not only different ideologies, but so many constituents and special interests, going to play nice, put the people and America first, put their Harvard/Yale educations to work, and vote compassionately, intelligently, and with fore-thought??? If the fighting here is any barometer as far as partisan politics goes, boy are we ever in for it!
About Face: Soldiers Call for Iraq Withdrawal
For the first time since Vietnam, an organized, robust movement of active-duty US military personnel has publicly surfaced to oppose a war in which they are serving. Those involved plan to petition Congress to withdraw American troops from Iraq. (Note: A complete version of this report will appear Thursday in the print and online editions of The Nation.)
After appearing only seven weeks ago on the Internet, the Appeal for Redress, brainchild of 29-year-old Navy seaman Jonathan Hutto, has already been signed by nearly 1,000 US soldiers, sailors, Marines and airmen, including dozens of officers--most of whom are on active duty. Not since 1969, when some 1,300 active-duty military personnel signed an open letter in the New York Times opposing the war in Vietnam, has there been such a dramatic barometer of rising military dissent.
Interviews with two dozen signers of the Appeal reveal a mix of motives for opposing the war: ideological, practical, strategic and moral. But all those interviewed agree that it is time to start withdrawing the troops. Coming from an all-volunteer military, the Appeal was called unprecedented by Eugene Fidell, president of the National Institute of Military Justice.
O likes to tell people nice things to their face, then
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Your post is a slap in the face to women - shame on you!
You're exactly the type of 'woman' who makes it difficult for the rest of us to get the respect we deserve and have earned. You're an embarrassment to the thousands of women who have fought hard to get ahead. Shame on you!!!!!!
Why don't you stick to speaking for yourself, rather than pretending to represent the 'female point of view.' Gag!
When you can't fight facts for facts
then it's buh-bye....well buh-bye to you too....I'll have a dicussion with someone who will discuss and not blame.
When you can't fight facts for facts then it's buh-bye.
Facts, stick to the facts...sm
The subject here is the media and their treatment of Gov. Palin, which continues to this day, to this minute, by the liberal left.
Tthe media threw down their gauntlet as soon as she was picked on that Friday, and hounded her for almost a full week.
And you think she should have waved a white flag at them in her acceptance speech? She put them on notice, that she is above them. And continues to be, with grace and style.
She's not whining, and neither are we.
I just shake my head at your audacity.
The media is the one that started this with her, and you would do well to remember the facts in her case.
IN this case, the facts are the facts.........
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Howard Kaloogian is lying to the people of San Diego's face....sm
And yet he still is raking in the support. This tops all, and he still has this photo on his site representing Bagdad. Unbelievable.
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