Excellent advice! - nm
Posted By: New Englander on 2009-01-10
In Reply to: Advice for Obama --- Put a Sock In It (sm) - ms
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Thanks for the advice.
I would suggest you do the same. It's important.
Again, some advice.
I haven't seen postings here every day that the market has gone down, nor when it has gone up. You're imagining things.
We would have absolutely no problem criticizing Obama's insane fiscal policy at any time, even on a day that the market went up 1000 points, or if it went up a million points, because the criticism isn't based on what the market does. It's based on the terrible bill that's coming due!
I know, it is ADVICE, I don't even know why I am
replying to your nonsense.
Okay, took your advice. None of the "scripts"
I saw were anything different than I have seen in ads or heard on the stump. So I suppose I don't understand the big deal. If people don't like the call...hang up. It's not like Obama doesn't do robocalls...he does. I guess people are just hanging up and not complaining about them?
Good advice
I really would love to see the political board split in two. They can have the love fest on the liberal side and happy happy joy joy each other all day long while the spin around. They wouldn't have to worry or address any serious conversations because they would all be swept away in euphoria, and the rest of us could have some serious discussions on the conservative side. I think that would really be a good balance.
I like the advice of counting to 10 before replying. Will save a lot in frustratioins.
Reply....and some advice. sm
First, the advice. You never want to put yourself out on a limb like this by crowing over a one-day move in the stock market.
Now, the reply. It's odd to me that the very people who have discounted the idea that there is any "meaning" to stock market movements when the market is crashing would turn around and now propose that we garner some significance from the fact that it has recently had a rally.
Second, there are always rallies during bear markets, just like there are always down moves in bull markets. No market moves straight up or straight down.
Third, I see the markets are back down today.
Fourth, the problems that Obama's budget and bank bailout proposals will cause won't show up today or tomorrow. They'll be a long time coming...but mark my words, they're coming.
Fifth, a small percentage uptick in existing home sales from its previous disastrous levels means virtually nothing.
Sixth, it's very common these days to see even so-called sophisticated financial analysts wax poetic every time there is the slightest bit of "positive" news. They are, after all, in the investment industry and their jobs and incomes depend - even more so than yours or mine - on "things getting better". It's been rather funny, although pathetic, to watch them throughout this whole mess, grasping at every straw. You should pay less attention to them - they have an axe to grind.
It is possible that in time Obama will grow into this job. Every American has reason to hope so. To date, however, he has shown very little leadership, has stumbled badly on both the domestic and world diplomatic stage, and has shown himself to be impulsive and rather inept. So far, the American people aren't sure whether they have a man or a boy (and please, no "PC" comments) in the White House.
In my personal opinion, the President of this country is actually Nancy Pelosi, and Obama is little more than her obedient puppet.
My advice to your party if you want to win elections
start preparing for the future instead of living in the past.
Took your advice - went directly to the source -
Okay, went to the source. Says the same thing - Obama 49, McCain 47 with likely voters.
Drudge shows the facts. You were okay with them when they favored your candidate.
What I am hearing is if Obama was so much better than McCain he would certainly have a much larger lead (like 20 points or more), but he doesn't, which goes to show that it is a very close race and you need to prepare yourself that either candidate could win.
Need advice from Dems and Repubs sm
I am a swing voter. I am one who is on the fence about who to vote for. Here is my problem. I am finding that this year's presidential election is separating people. Republicans seem to be a little angrier lately since Obama leads in the pools. Dems are not as angry BUT they are very firm in their political choice. I am finding that I cannot have a discussion with anyone about this election. If I say anything about Palin, repubs jump all over me. If I question Biden, dems are horrified. I do want to vote. I will figure it all out through my own research. My question for everyone today is how do I stay friends with people during all this? Any words of advice will be appreciated as I found my self in tears this morning.
Perhaps you should follow your own advice (last line)
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Advice for Obama --- Put a Sock In It (sm)
I'd go for a little hope right now myself from Obama. But we don't seem to be getting it from him, do we.
FOX News Blogs » FOX Forum » Liz Peek
Liz Peek
January 8th, 2009 11:55 AM Eastern
Advice for Obama: Put a Sock In It
You can thank our incoming president for extinguishing the faint glimmers of optimism that had driven markets higher in recent sessions. Did you happen to notice yesterday’s market sell-off?
The media blamed Wednesday’s market setback on gloomy job loss projections and downbeat profit warnings from Time Warner, Alcoa and Intel. I disagree.
I think investors were put off by Obama’s warnings of “trillion-dollar deficits for years to come” -– an unwelcome reality check from our cheerleader-in-chief
I think investors were put off by Obama’s warnings of “trillion-dollar deficits for years to come” -– an unwelcome reality check from our cheerleader-in-chief who is laying the groundwork for massive spending programs and ultimately for an A+ report card for his administration.
For weeks companies around the globe have had to reduce investor expectations. Any management that has not fessed up to just how ghastly business prospects are has simply been putting off the inevitable –- or else out of touch with field operations. (Beware of those long lines of reporting!) That a Time Warner or Alcoa should be seeing a drop in revenues cannot possibly be construed as a surprise. We’re in a recession for heaven’s sake!
The market came to grips with this reality a couple of months ago. Indeed, more recently such announcements have not jarred investor sensibilities a whit. In other words, bad economic news is not news at all.
There is an irrational but tangible feeling in the air that Obama can deliver miracles… It is singularly deflating, then, when Obama talks trash about the economy.
What is different is the ominous message from our president-elect. The country is ready for a change in tone, for a message of –- dare I say it –- hope. Everyone, including those who didn’t vote for the man, is hoping that Mr. Obama can bring peace and prosperity to this country. There is an irrational but tangible feeling in the air that Obama can deliver miracles, that he is uncorrupted, that he is smart and has solutions to the nation’s ills in his pocket.
It is singularly deflating, then, when Obama talks trash about the economy. His purpose, I imagine, is two-fold: First, he needs to get Americans on board with a gigantic spending program that he feels is necessary to put people to work and breathe some life into the economy. Second, if he prepares people to expect truly dreadful times ahead, anything less horrendous will be added to the plus side of the Obama ledger. Just like corporate managements, Mr. Obama can only win by outperforming expectations.
The problem is that the economy and the markets are fragile beyond imagining right now. We don’t need a dose of gloom and doom. We need a Ronald Reagan–type “morning in America” optimism. Consumer sentiment is in the basement-– is that a leading or lagging indicator? We need people who have money to go out and spend it –- they need to feel confident to do so. We need bankers to approve loans, and companies to invest in new plant and equipment.
None of these things will happen if everyone is focused on how dreadful the next few years will be.
My advice, Mr. Obama, is this: stop scaring Americans to death by telling them how bad things will be if your programs are not enacted. Henry Paulson adopted that approach to the point that every time he came on television the market cratered. With a Congress firmly in the hands of your political compatriots, you will get your stimulus package passed. If Americans see enough tough oversight put in place, they will be supportive, especially if the investments appear to generate jobs. Americans are smart –- they know we’re in trouble and that the times call for unusual measures.
But, they need you to lead, and to be positive. Do not spend the enthusiasm of the electorate with scare-tactics. We need, after all, that ridiculous message of hope that got you elected.
http://foxforum.blogs.foxnews.com/2009/01/08/peek_obama_market/
It is at the advice of the office of the attorney general...
of the state of Alaska. It has turned into a political hatchet job. Just a scant few months ago, Hollis French (running the "investigative" committee) said that the governor's office was cooperating and no subpoenas were necessary. Then, when she was picked as the VP candidate and Obama folks descended on Alaska...all of a sudden the "investigation" grew (and the pictures of Obama and Hollis French and the other key democrat on this committee yucking it up surfaced). It has come to light that the investigator they hired is a personal friend of the man he is investigating. No bias there, right? Now that the attorney general is involved, politics can be removed from this and it can be brought to a result, whatever that result is.
What ever happened to innocent until proven guilty? Flew right past that basic right, eh?
Now son of a Democratic congressman being investigated for hacking her personal email. Wondering how THAT will turn out.
Let's talk again if (and when) he takes cons. advice
I don't require the advice of a popeyed pestilential poop such as yourself, thanks..
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Some educational advice. Go to your local hospital and city hall....sm
Ask them how births are recorded. I think you will be surprised. EVERYTHING is now computerized. Even old birth records.
Excellent! Thank you.
Excellent!
'Blind faith in your leaders, or in anything, will get you killed.' Bruce Springsteen.
Excellent.
A lot of people do say if she was a man the media would never go after her and she wouldn't be attacked like she has been. I liked the post. Thanks.
Excellent.
If O wins and a few months goes by, I will be proud to say I am the one who voted for McCain. This is not a normal election, this is like a radical movement going on.
EXCELLENT.
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Just the big bad.....also excellent.
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Excellent
I saw this back during the election. It brought tears to my eyes back then and still does. This soldier is so very right with everything he has to say. I think it's just a very sad time for our country right now. Gone are the days of many people feeling patriotic and doing what is necessary to keep our country free. I mourn for the country we once had and am very guarded about what is to come for us.
I served in the US Army to protect our country. I was a very proud American and served to protect our country from enemies.
"I do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic."
Back then we all thought it would only be foreign enemies. Who knew back then that in the future (now) it is domestic enemies.
Way to go! Excellent!!!!!!
I was actually going to post and say I do believe he actually goes to the bathroom the same way all of us do (well the men at least). So, hey, he must really be like one of us. I am truly amazed at the way some people think. I find American Idol tryouts to be more entertaining.
The last I knew Barack Obama was a human being. A man just like every other man on the planet. Sleeps, drinks, eats, and poops the same way. The people treating him like a God is getting way out of hand.
The simple matter they all fail to forget is just cos he eats a dog and fries does not make him like us. This is a man who was pushed into power faster than any of us could turn around. This man sends his kids to camp that costs $10,000 a week. This is a man who lives in mansion and has no idea what it is we (the plebes of society) are going through. He will never have to worry about putting food on his table, paying his electric bill. He is in a life of luxury and every once in awhile he will do a photo shoot so that people will say "wow, look at that, he ate a dog and fry - gosh he must be in tune with us". Here's some news...Hillary Clinton, John Kerry, John McCain, George Bush, Jimmy Carter, Ronald Reagan, John Edwards....they all do these photo ops too (remember Hillary guzzling down the beer with the workers). They all do it.
People need to stick with issues. Not this phony photo op thing. All presidents to it. As for him holding a baby. He was on TV and I saw someone hand him a baby and he didn't look all that happy or comfortable about it.
Barack Obama will never be "like us". Just like Hillary Clinton, John Kerry, Nancy Pelosi, Mit Romney, etc. These people are and never will be "like us".
LOL - That was excellent! Thanks
I love Jon Stewart. I like that Obama has a great sense of humor. Its the obots that give him a bad name.
I thought it was funny that on the podium under Baracks name his title is "Almost President" ha ha
Thanks for sharing! I love a good laugh no matter who it is about.
EXCELLENT!!!!!!!!
Okay - I'll tell you right now I haven't watched the whole thing, actually I haven't watched any of it :-)BUT..... with that said my DH has watched it many times. He keeps telling me to watch it and it's one saved in my favorites for "one of those moments when I'll have time to do something other than work". He's told me all about it and we've had this discussion so many many times.
I'll tell you what I feel..... What happened to JFK is just a grain of sand compared to what has been done with this whole thing. I loved the part where GW tells the kids he was watching TV when he saw the first plane hit (nobody saw it cos it wasn't on tape). I also loved the reporter (not sure if that is on this loose change video) but loved the reporter who was talking about Building 9 (I think it was called bldg 9) that had just collapsed and sitting there behind her was bldg 9 still standing. A short while later it collapsed.
Not many people I can talk to about this because they'll claim me a "whacko" and ridicule me and tell me I've got all these conspiracy theories and treat me like I'm that character that Mel Gibson played in the movie "Conspiracy Theory". :-) But this is just so much to think about. It's horrible and I am shocked that in my lifetime I have lived to see something like this. It does make you think - that's for sure.
Excellent - you said it better than I could
I'm not very good at expressing myself, but you said exactly what I feel. If I want to give charity I will give it of my own free will.
We do not need redistribution of wealth and socialism. If you think redistribution of wealth and socialism is the way to go, then move to Cuba or Russia because you are not a patriot of the United States of America and everything our founding fathers fought for.
Excellent - thanks
Especially your last paragraph.
Thank you for this excellent example of
Not one mention of the 1948 or 1967 wars that were launched against Israel. Not a word about Arafat, Hamas, rockets, suicide bombers, etc. Not a word about the countless ceasefires broken by the Palestinians.
This is nothing but a complete distortion of the truth about this region.
EXCELLENT point! nm
Excellent post. Thank you. NM
Excellent post!
Thanks.
This is an excellent article.
This guy has his finger on the pulse of the majority of Americans.
Thanks for posting it.
Excellent post!
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Excellent idea!!!!
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excellent post, thanks
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excellent...thanks for posting this....nm
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Excellent article. (nm)
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Chris was excellent
pinned him to the wall like a bug (no offense to bugs out there). Intersting also that he mentioned McCain's former policy chief (or something) Tori Clark wrote a book with the name. I love to see the hyocrites squirm. it sends a thrill up my leg.
Excellent post!!
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I didn't know this - excellent!
Tx for the link.
Excellent post!!!
My sentiments exactly!
excellent point
You have taken a startle complex to a burning house. Talk about constantly overreacting, overblowing, and goin all histrionic over every little thing . . . burp.
Excellent observation
Truth is truth and facts are facts. No matter how much you hate someone and think their dummer than a rock, you can't put the blame all on him. Everytime the democrats get into office the economy goes down the tubes. The facts are that the congress votes on issues (not George Bush).
Love the observation. Thanks.
Calm - thanks - an excellent
addtion.
Excellent post
You hit the nail right on the head.
Excellent article!!! Thanks, sam!
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Excellent link - thanks
One thing about the crisis...sure been learning a lot about the economy these past few days.
FrontPageMag Is excellent
Maybe the poster has a problem with Jews (David Horowitz, etc.)... Everyone shoud read this article!
To All My Friends, this is long, but very important, please take the time to read it.
This election has me very worried. So many things to consider. About a
year ago I would have voted for Obama. I have changed my mind three times
since than. I watch all the news channels, jumping from one to another. I
must say this drives my husband crazy. But, I feel if you view MSNBC, CNN,
and Fox News, you might get some middle ground to work with. About six
months ago, I started thinking "where did the money come from for Obama".
I have four daughters who went to College, and we were middle class, and
money was tight. We (including my girls) worked hard and there were lots
of student loans.
I started looking into Obama's life.
Around 1979 Obama started college at Occidental in California . He is very
open about his two years at Occidental, he tried all kinds of drugs and was
wasting his time but, even though he had a brilliant mind, did not apply
himself to his studies. "Barry" (that was the name he used all his life)
during this time had two roommates, Muhammad Hasan Chandoo and Wahid Hamid,
both from Pakistan . During the summer of 1981, after his second year in
college, he made a "round the world" trip. Stopping to see his mother in
Indonesia , next Hyderabad in India , three weeks in Karachi , Pakistan
where he stayed with his roommate's family, then off to Africa to visit his
father's family. My question - Where did he get the money for this trip?
Neither I, nor any one of my children would have had money for a trip like
this when they where in college. When he came back he started school at
Columbia University in New York . It is at this time he wants everyone to
call him Barack - not Barry. Do you know what the tuition is at Columbia ?
It's not cheap! to say the least. Where did he get money for tuition?
Student Loans? Maybe. After Columbia , he went to Chicago to work as a
Community Organizer for $12,000. a year. Why Chicago ? Why not New York ?
He was already living in New York .
By "chance" he met Antoin "Tony" Rezko, born in Aleppo Syria , and a real
estate developer in Chicago . Rezko has been convicted of fraud and
bribery this year. Rezko, was named "Entrepreneur of the Decade" by the
Arab-American Business and Professional Association". About two years
later, Obama entered Harvard Law School . Do you have any idea what
tuition is for Harvard Law School ? Where did he get the money for Law
School ? More student loans? After Law school, he went back to Chicago .
Rezko offered him a job, which he turned down. But, he did take a job with
Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Galland. Guess what? They represented "Rezar"
which is Rezko's firm. Rezko was one of Obama's first major financial
contributors when he ran for office in Chicago . In
2003, Rezko threw an early fundraiser for Obama which Chicago Tribune
reporter David Mendelland claims was instrumental in providing Obama with
"seed money" for his U.S. Senate race. In 2005, Obama purchased a new home
in Kenwoood District of Chicago for $1.65 million (less than asking price).
With ALL those Student Loans - Where did he get the money for the property?
On the same day Rezko's wife, Rita, purchased the adjoining empty lot for
full price. The London Times reported that Nadhmi Auchi, an Iraqi-born
billionaire loaned Rezko $3.5 million three weeks before Obama's new home
was purchased. Obama met Nadhmi Auchi many times with Rezko.
Now, we have Obama running for President. Valerie Jarrett was Michele
Obama's boss. She is now Obama's chief advisor and he does not make any
major decisions without talking to her first. Where was Jarrett born?
Ready for this? Shiraz , Iran ! Do we see a pattern here? Or am I going
crazy?
On May 10, 2008 The Times reported, Robert Malley advisor to Obama was
"sacked" after the press found out he was having regular contacts with
"Hamas", which controls Gaza and is connected with Iran . This past week,
buried in the back part of the papers, Iraqi newspapers reported that
during Obama's visit to Iraq , he asked their leaders to do nothing about
the war until after he is elected, and he will "Take care of things".
Oh, and by the way, remember the college roommates that where born in
Pakistan ? They are in charge of all those "small" Internet campaign
contribution for Obama. Where is that money coming from? The poor and
middle class in this country? Or could it be from the Middle East ?
And the final bit of news. On September 7, 2008, The Washington Times
posted a verbal slip that was made on "This Week" with George
Stephanapoulos. Obama on talking about his religion said, "My Muslim
faith". When questioned, "he make a mistake". Some mistake!
All of the above information I got on line. If you would like to check it
- Wikipedia, encyclopedia, Barack Obama; Tony Rezko; Valerie Jarrett: Daily
Times - Obama visited Pakistan in 1981; The Washington Times - September
7, 2008; The Times May 10, 2008.
Now the BIG question - If I found out all this information on my own, why
haven't all of our "intelligent" members of the press been reporting this?
This phrase keeps ringing in my ears: "Beware the enemy from within."
Marlene
Excellent post - thanks
What an excellent post! Very well thought out.
PS - I did not know hersey moved. I always thought they made all their candy in Hershey PA (I went to the factory when I was little). I'm no longer buying that brand anymore.
Excellent post! nm
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Excellent quote. nm
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