Exactly, you don't equate future president with
Posted By: the economy? not surprised....nm on 2008-10-10
In Reply to: Every hour you spend trashing O is one less hour - You have to address the economy. sm
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O was elected the future president, so....sm
the only thing that we can do NOW is sit back and WAIT for O's actions.
But give him ROOM FOR ACTION, without criticizing every little decision.
You know, he IS the future president, time to accept it and, as Kaydie's father states, to adapt to it.
First Iraq and now Bush leaves New Orleans rebuilding to future President.
Bush: New Orleans may need a decade
NEW ORLEANS, Aug. 28 (UPI) -- As he headed for the Gulf Coast on Monday, U.S. President George Bush told an interviewer he expects the rebuilding of New Orleans to take a decade.
Bush planned to spend the anniversary of the U.S. Gulf Coast landfall of Hurricane Katrina in New Orleans after a visit to Biloxi, Miss. It was his 13th visit to the devastated area.
We can rebuild buildings, the question is can we rebuild its soul, he told April Ryan of American Urban Radio Networks. We can. I believe, 10 years from now April, you and I will be thinking about our time here, and trying to remember what it was like 10 years ago
Bush came under fire last year for apparently ignoring Katrina immediately after New Orleans flooded and then flying over the city in Air Force One.
Later White House spokeswoman Dana Perrino said she wasn't aware of a specific time period but that the president has said all along that it would take more than a year to rebuild New Orleans.
In terms of like, 10 years, I don't know about exact time frame, but it's certainly going to take several years, Perrino said.
Cannot equate the two.
How would he decide on which ones to attend?
Some families would be offended as every loss is equal.
However, the President's job is to run the country not attend funerals. Did Nixon or Johnson attend any of the funerals for Vietnam? Did Clinton for Somalia? I don't think this is an appropriate question at this time, or really any time. How do you choose?
I don't think you can equate the two. (Long - sorry)
A tubal pregnancy is a medical emergency endangering the lives of both mother and embryo. Unfortunately, modern medicine does not yet provide any capacity to salvage the embryo, but the mother can be saved by removal of the blocked tube or removal of the embryo from the tube.
I've read articles describing nontubal ectopic intraabdominal pregnancies in which the embryo was able to implant near a blood-rich source such as the liver; in this rare instance, the fetus could be maintained long enough for successful delivery via laparotomy. If that were the case, I would certainly try to maintain the pregnancy for as long as possible to allow the fetus to reach viability. Interesting article here about an abdominal pregnancy not diagnosed until 38 weeks gestation - http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m3225/is_n1_v41/ai_8773331.
Just as a side note, the Catholic Church, which is officially staunchly anti-abortion despite the behavior of some of its members, makes an interesting distinction in terms of tubal pregnancies. It is considered morally licit - okay - to treat a tubal pregnancy with salpingectomy because the death of the embryo is considered an unfortunate side-effect but not the intent of the intervention, which is to remove the blocked section of tube to prevent rupture. The use of methotrexate to induce passage of the embryo, however, is considered illicit because this is considered to imply a direct intent to kill/abort the embryo. I've never been able to see a moral difference between the two, as the fetus cannot survive and either option saves the mother. Does anyone here believe one is more morally correct than the other?
You equate infertility with being gay?
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First of all, you cannot equate gun ownership with abortion. sm
It's like the analogy above about a wart and a child. It's by pidgeon holding abortion in these terms that legal abortion was passed in the first place. Abortion is not a *right* in my opinion. It is murder. Since when does anyone have the right to murder another human being? Oh, I know, life doesn't start until the first breath. Well, that's your belief. The fact that God may not have willed the way a person came into the world, does not mean He has not planned a purpose for that individual. Long before anyone is conceived, God’s purpose for that life is foreseen.
So, you don't equate Obama with economy?
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sounds like you equate belief with fanaticism.
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No, I equate him with a false teacher/leader
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If customary deference to a sitting president by president elect
for the rest of us who understand such concepts as respect and traditional protocol, it would qualify as a darned good reason.
Future
Lesbian couples use artificial insemination now. Why would the future make any difference? In return, they could be surrogates for gay male couples. sorry just don't follow your reasoning.
the future
I am amazed at how many psychics we have on this board. I have never seen so many people who can predict what the future holds for our country.
I'm also shocked to learn that only right-wing conservatives and others who vote for McCain/Palin are the only ones who care about our country.
Thanks for clearing things up for me.
If you want to know the future
Read up on the Lincoln presidency.
Last night on Charlie Rose guests called Obama obsessed with Lincoln and determined to not let us down.
So read up, I am sure there were no "everybody gets a goodie bag" lines with him, but I will read up and find out exactly what he did do if that is my president's hero.
This is concerning. This is about the future of our
After all, Obama stated he wanted to become president for his children and for other children. Oh, I guess I must be wrong.
How can you say this? Can you see into the future? ...nm
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Yes, madam QA.....I will be sure I do so in the future...
pardon the heck out of me. :)
future wrongdoing
And since when can you predict the future? LMAO!!
Past and future
Stop dwelling in the PAST.
Look into the FUTURE.
The last past 8 years did not work for anybody.
What we need is change. REAL change.
Summon it up, we do not need
your pagelong lectures. Who has time for this?
The election is tomorrow, thanks God.
Go, Obama!
Thanks, GP, let's all have hope for a better future.....nm
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If a brighter future ever comes your way
to recognize it.
I wish I was hopeful for the future.
I am actually not proud to be an American. I actually want to move to another country, maybe Canada, Switzerland, Italy, Ireland? US scares me now with all these human rights. I wish it was back in the 50's.
Maybe not but our future could have started 5-1/2 years ago.
Bush's policies in all areas are making it look pretty bleak. 
It is nice to look to the future and not the past.
You are quite wrong about my stance on Vietnam. Don't make the presumption that you know me at all.
One thing that I do know is that you cannot change the past. You want to bog yourself down with useless information knock yourself out. Our government tends to not pay attention to those details of the past in the way they operate today. If they did, Bush would have never invaded Iraq. Perhaps you are making your speeches to the wrong audience? You will never convince a liberal that war is just.
As I have stated before, I am strictly anti-war, no matter who, what, where, and why. War does nothing but fund hate and line pockets of men who profit from them and kills the innocent as an after thought, and it's excused because, hey, that's war isn't it?
The longer our troops stay in Iraq, the more hate it is going to foster. This military pseudo occupation has to stop and the humanitarian effort needs to start, period.
Or better yet, why don't you go there and explain to the Iraqi people and our military men and women who are doing their fourth or fifth tour and tell them why they are still there. There's your audience, try and convince them.
And this makes any wrongdoing in the future okay???
OH BROTHER.
Sorry, Moderator...I will be more careful in the future.
Thank you for deleting it, thereby letting me know it was inappropriate. Again, I apologize.
"I am sorry your future is so dark and meaningless"
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John McCain's future
After seeing Cindy smooching some biker dude, maybe John should check in at home more often.
the future of imported items
anything imported, which is basically everything will cost more next year or will simply be unavailable. Manufacturing orders are down for China, inventories are shrinking at retail stores. Even Wal-Mart is cutting back on inventories. I was in a Super Walmart the other day and one half of the store was full, the grocery and clothes half. The rest of the store was abandoned.
AIG/Future of American Healthcare
I've written a few times on this board that I think employers and insurance companies should be completely taken out of the picture when it comes to healthcare, that our very lives shouldn't be profit-driven commodities.
In my opinion, what's happening at AIG with greedy executives gives us a window into what could happen again (or probably already is happening) with health insurance companies.
I did a quick Google search and found the following two articles that address this. The first link is more current and probably the better of the two links, but the second is worth reading, as well. There may be better ones out there, but I didn't have much time to do my search, and these are two that caught my attention. If you find others, please post them.
It seems to me that before a new healthcare plan is implemented for Americans, we need to insure (no pun) that greedy executives can never do this again to Americans, particularly if our very ability to live or die lies in the balance.
I plan on writing my Congressman and Senator. I DON'T plan on having my concerns taken seriously (or even being read, for that matter).
Can you imagine -- just for a moment -- how much money could be saved by eliminating the profit factor in healthcare? It might just pay for a new healthcare care system itself, or at least put a big dent into the cost of one.
http://blogs.webmd.com/mad-about-medicine/2007/08/ceo-compensation-who-said-healthcare-is.html
http://www.harp.org/hmoexecs.htm
Well, if teabagging is in your future, you might have to get on those knees, anyway.
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If you CARED about your country and its future,
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Totally excited - He gives us hope for a better future
Obama is the first candidate in my entire life that gives me hope of getting our country back on track. Here is why I am against Clinton and as a citizen will never vote for her (it just goes against all my beliefs as a human being and how I think other human beings should be treated). Here are some of the quotes she had made in the past. There are way too many so will limit it to just a few. I know I was sick after reading these....
“We just can’t trust the American people to make those types of choices, Government has to make those choices for people “ - Hillary to Rep. Dennis Hasert in 1993 discussing her expensive, disastrous taxpayer-funded health care plan.
“You know, I’m going to start thanking the woman who cleans the restroom in the building I work in. I’m going to start thinking of her as a human being”
“I am a fan of the social policies that you find in Europe ”
“If you want to remain on this detail, get your f***ing *ss over here and grab those bags!” - Hillary to a Secret Service Agent who was reluctant to carry her luggage because he wanted to keep his hands free in case of an incident.
“F***ing Jew Bast**d. – Hillary’s remarks about Fray (who ran Bill’s campaign) while in a rage after Bill’s run for congress failed. This slur was heard by many people.
“Where is the G-da**ed f***ing flag? I want the G-dam**d f***ing flag up every f***ing morning at f***ing sunrise.” – Hillary to the staff at the Arkansas Governor’s mansion on Labor Day, 1991
“F*** off! It’s enough that I have to see you sh**-kickers every day, I’m not going to talk to you too!! Just do your G*dam job and keep your mouth shut.” - Hillary to her State Trooper body guards after one of them greeted her with “Good Morning.”
Her rages continued when she moved into the white house and the secret service more than once had to pull her off of her husband after she attacked him.
And this is the thing that people actually want running the country? Sheesh! That's enough to make me sick. I live in America, not some country being run by a socialist - just say NO to Clinton.
Any suggestions on how to keep my sanity if she actually does become president? I've thought about citizenship to another country but not sure if that would solve anything.
At age 60, I'll hand over the future of my children
They deserve at least that much, since they will end up bankrolling the deficit debt left behind by W and 90% for generations to come. We are leaving them a world WORSE off than the one we inherited from our parents for the first time in US history. My vote goes to O, skeletons and all.
We need to vote as if our entire future depends on it,
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Speculation over her future role in the R party
This kind of ignorance is no bash...unless former candidates can inflict them upon themselves. Let's make a deal. Palin will be a bash-free zone just as soon as Obama is. When election politics dries up from the board, Palin comments will follow in kind. Don't hold your breath.
So why does a future plumbing business owner
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_the_plumber
BTW, he can't own a plumbing license without a license.
But here is another question, if you make NO INVESTMENTS in the future....sm
how do you expect to prosper and make money for the future of our country? I am the first to agree that there are things in this package that i believe should have been yanked out of there, but there are many sound investments in our future, in education, in health care, in securing our borders, in job programs, etc. If you hide a dollar under your mattress, in ten years you will still have that same wrinkled up old dollar. But make an investment with that money, and you at least have a chance at growing some of your investments, and growing the future of this country. Why were you not screaming when W. was literally blowing up piles of money in Iraq????
At tea party 9 year old says he is worried about his future.
Host asked him if he skipped school today to attend and he said yes. The host then asked if he really wanted to be there because of how he felt or if he just wanted to skip school and the kid truthful said about half of each. Hehe.
Roberts: Iraq Will Affect Future War Votes
Fool me once, shame on you....etc.
I feel better knowing Congress is smart enough to not believe BU_ _ SH _ _ twice from this farce of a president.
Roberts: Iraq Will Affect Future War Votes
Experience With Faulty Data Has Made Senators More Wary, Panel Chairman Says
By Walter Pincus
Washington Post Staff Writer
Monday, November 14, 2005; A04
The Republican chairman of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence said yesterday that one lesson of the faulty prewar intelligence on Iraq is that senators would take a hard look at intelligence before voting to go to war.
I think a lot of us would really stop and think a moment before we would ever vote for war or to go and take military action, Sen. Pat Roberts (Kan.) said on Fox News Sunday.
We don't accept this intelligence at face value anymore, he added. We get into preemptive oversight and do digging in regards to our hard targets.
He said that agreement has been reached on the Phase 2 review that the intelligence panel is doing to look into whether the Bush administration exaggerated or misused prewar intelligence. The review may not be finished this year, he said.
The intelligence panel vice chairman, Sen. John D. Rockefeller IV (D-W.Va.), also appearing on Fox, called the review absolutely useful because if it is the fact that they [the Bush administration] created intelligence or shaped intelligence in order to bring American opinion along to support them in going to war, that's a really bad thing -- it should not ever be repeated.
Appearing on CNN's Late Edition, national security adviser Stephen J. Hadley said the White House is supporting the study, adding: I think that what you're going to find is that the statements by the administration had backing at the time from accepted intelligence sources.
He said that when administration statements turned out to be wrong, that was because the underlying intelligence was not true, but that's not the same as manipulating intelligence, and that is not misleading the American people.
Sen. Carl M. Levin (D-Mich.), appearing with Roberts on Late Edition, said that Iraq became the center of terrorism after the March 2003 invasion.
I'm afraid we're going to see Iraq is not only the center of the war on terror, which it was not before we attacked Iraq, but now it is going to, I'm afraid, export it.
He added that Iraq has become the heartland of terrorism. It was not before we attacked.
Levin, a member of both the Senate intelligence committee and Armed Services Committee, has been a leading critic of the Bush administration's handling of the war.
Levin also said that the United States must get allies, as many as we can, including in the Muslim world because this is a form of fanatic Islam which has to be defeated by the moderate Islamic people.
In a column in yesterday's Washington Post, former senator John Edwards (N.C.), the Democratic vice presidential candidate in 2004, said the failures of the Bush administration turned Iraq into a far greater threat than it ever was. It is now a haven for terrorists [and] has made fighting the global war on terrorist organizations more difficult rather than less.
The president and his senior aides have said since before the invasion that Washington went to war primarily because Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction and was a threat to the United States and its neighbors because of his connection to terrorists. Once fighting began, they argued that Iraq was the central front in the battle against terrorism.
In his Veterans Day speech on Friday, the president turned his original argument around, saying, The terrorists regard Iraq as the central front in their war against humanity, and therefore, We must recognize Iraq as the central front in our war against the terrorists.
Yeah, you're right; I'll try to ignore them in the future.
Yes, that's what you're doing. Predicting the future and turning a blind eye
Losing your parental rights is a reality in the near future.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=87929
Bristol's future MIL arrested on 6 counts of felony drug charges.
Palins can't seem to catch a break this past week.
I would if he were president now...nm
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Why does President need help with a way out?
That's really scary. I do think if we have any troops come home, it'll be before elections - and not a minute before necessary to have the greatest impact on election results. Wallace should wonder if the families of fallen soldiers would be offended at THAT kind of rank political maneuvering. I know I am.
And what happened to SPREADING DEMOCRACY (like margarine?) in Iraq? Chalabi just appointed the head Taliban judge to office in Iraq, the one who outlawed female education in Afghanistan and sponsored public executions for not wearing burkhas. Is that what we promised the Iraqi people? The whole thing is a huge mess. All the billions and billions Congress authorized for rebuilding Iraq went into Halliburton and other crony pockets and the job was never done. We can't train more Iraqi police units because as soon as we give them guns and tanks they use them on our soldiers. That's why Bush can't tell the truth about how that's going, but that doesn't stop him from continuing to fudge the numbers.
Sadly, Bush won't take any help even if it's offered - not in his game plan apparently.
We need this man as our next president
Someone who can speak so elequently without having to read word from word from notes or prompters.
Someone who knows what the different races are about, understands, and embraces heritages of all backgrounds.
Someone who can meet with our enemies to try and stop the violence and come to agreements.
Someone who is intelligent.
Someone who isn't married to "bad baggage" that will disgrace our white house.
Someone who isn't a war mongerer or voted for the war.
Someone who is truthful to the American people and not deceiptful (sp?) trying to hide things they have done.
Someone who doesn't think they should just be annointed to the white house but actually needs to "earn" the publics vote.
Someone who doesn't believe they should win just because they are from a certain race or gender.
Someone who is calm under fire, can think and act with a clear mind, and doesn't lash out, spew racial or ethnic slurs.
Someone who wants a better country for all people and not just themselves and their close friends and family.
Someone who is relatively "new" to Washington and not the same ol "stuff".
Someone who is working towards our future and not living or trying to live in the past.
Comment: Who cares that people Obama knows (but clearly doesn't share the same viewpoint of which he has had to say over and over and over and over) throws out biggoted or hateful things. You have them on all sides. Hillary's got her people (Ferraro and others) coming out with biggoted and hateful statements and you've got John McCain's people (Cunningham and others) coming out with their biggoted and hateful statements and they too have had to distance themselves. Unfortunately they die away quickly but Obama has to keep repeating himself on the same story. I have a good relationship with my minister, but it doesn't mean I agree with everything he says and if he said terrible things just because I have a good relationship with him doesn't mean I agree with him. - Just get tired of Obama having to repeat the same things over and over. Kind of reminds me of the line in a movie I heard once. "I don't know how many different ways I can tell you the same story." - and - "Have IQ's just dropped sharply since I've been away".
It's true we are not going to be able to change a true biggot. Some people will just not vote for him because he's part black, just like some other people will also not vote for Hillary because she's a woman. I just hope there are enough good Americans to overcome that and do the right thing (at least what I believe is the right thing). But it is getting tiring listening to the opponents stir up a bunch of hateful things trying to get the people to vote against him and time and time again I read this board and will read the same comments over and over "did you hear what Obama's minister said". It's like listening to a broken record and I always think - they're not actually bring this up again???
I believe our country needs a lot of healing. We've got a long way to go on the racial issues/hatred towards one race or another. We've got to try to make amends with the people who we fear and call our enemies, when in fact the people we should be fearing is our own government. We've put years and years into believing our government is going to be truthful with us, but when you have a VP who says "so" when he is told that 2/3 of Americans don't believe in the war and feel we should have not gone to war (DH and I sat with our mouths open), those are the people I consider terro**rists by putting fear in the American people's mind where there should be no fear.
So for that and all the reasons I listed above that is why I'm voting for Obama.
He is NOT my president ...
I didn't vote for him .. Another thing, I will NOT vote for McBush (errr ... McCain). I was a Hilary fan all the way until she couldn't get the nomination .. now I'll switch gears to Obama. Frankly, I think I would could do a better job than Bush .. at least I'd use my common sense!! 
This is who we want for President?
When you look at this video (link below), I promise you
> will NOT BELIEVE your eyes and ears. Take a look at the You
> Tube link below and pass it on. This is a view of John
> McCain that you probably won't see on the Network news.
> If it weren't serious, it would be hilarious.
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> p;nb sp;
Probably for the best. Once someone becomes President,
it seems like even if they are an excellent choice, they have to use far too much of their time, skill and energy just defending themselves from the other side. No one ever really wins, least of all, US.
Either way, the next president is
only in for one term. McCain will simply be too old and by then health will be a major factor. Obama, on the other hand, simply will not be able to come through with all of his promises due to the current situation with our economy. I do believe if he is elected that many who voted for him will see him for what he truly is, an inexperienced leader who has no clue. His strings are pulled by the extreme left. Either way, we are in for a rough 4 years.
next president
The question is not what the next president HAS done, the question is what he WILL do.
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