Everyone has already made up their minds

• Vicious and Nasty - OMG
  • What do you find viscious and nasty? - nm
    • Everyone has already made up their minds - OMG
      • Sure there are.......you want all your money given as - handouts?......nm
        • You have no power - OMG
          • I was wrong - OMG
            • Hmmmmm...who was it told us to go - shopping?..........NM
              • And again, they fall silent.....stuck her foot in - her mouth........again!
            • You don't like shopping? well....... - sm
          • You obviously know someone who will get free - money who doesn't work....nm
            • Actually - OMG
              • Ah, that means you definitely know one or more - SPREAD THE WEALTH
                • You don't have a clue - OMG
                  • TO clueless........ - I see it everyday
                    • Have you been in a coma since the 1970s? - Your post has racial undertones....sm
                      • Nothing racial at all in her post unless your mind put it there (sm) - MeMT
                      • Sorry you misconstrue facts for bigotry. - small vocabulary......nm
                        • It just sounds like to me that she - OMG
                          • Neighborhood I would prefer - hmmmmmmmmmm
                        • The post was slurful and void of fact. - If you can't recognize...sm
                          • Sorry, Palin ain't my thing.....neither is Obama - he's even worse......nm

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With this election, there's a lot on most people's minds right now and most are scared beyond words that can be expressed.  As I sit here I seriously imagine what our country would be like with Obama as a president, after all polls are in his favor, right? so most assume he has already won. On a more uplifting note though the polls are now changing in McCains favor and that is hopeful for people like me and others who care so deeply to preserve this great country.  As I sit and think what our country would be like if he gets in just really hits a nerve and is so frightening I'm glad a lot of my loved ones have passed on so they will not have to face what lies ahead if he gets in.  Of course the liberals will come back with "give me a break" or "please", and they will not see this post the same as a lot of us do.  And most will not even read this whole post, but will cut it down anyway without knowing the full content of it.  But why don't you sit and imagine what the country would be like with McCain and you will understand what we feel with Obama (or maybe you won't).  However, our fears are based on facts.  The most important issues for me is is the safety of our country, our economy, and upholding our constitution and preserving the freedoms our founding father's risked their lives for.  I'll attach a link at the end of this that describes what happened to them.  But know this...they risked their lives and they were scared beyond words.  If you ever watched the HBO series John Adams the actors portrayed those men very well, and the looks on their faces and what they must have felt when they were creating the Declaration is the same way I feel as I sit and think about an Obama presidency.  It scares me beyond all imaginings.  I think back to our founding father's and what they must have gone through to sign The Declaration.  Here is a quote I found from an article which I will put the link below.  The link is not a verification of anything, I just found it just a very interesting article and I wanted to pass it on.  The article states (I'm copying and pasting so please forgive if the spacing or alignment is off):

So, on July 4^th, 1776, our Continental Congress dared to declare that we 13 colonies, the United States of America, must be and are free and independent of King George.  They knew that this was a treasonous act.  They knew that signing the Declaration of Independence meant a death sentence for every one of them if they were caught. 

          Where did these 56 men get the courage to sign the Declaration of Independence? "

If Obama is elected (and we do not know yet if he will be), but if he is our lives will change dramatically (and not for the better).  First and most importantly to me and others is that you will have the first president ever who was able to change the constitution to allow a person born on foreign soil to "rule" our country.  But that should not surpirse a lot because Obama does not believe in the constitution.  His words are "The constitution reflected the fundamental flaw of this country that continues to this day".  Then if by some chance we have all 3 branches of the government democrat, no doubt in many's mind is that he will change the constitution.  Everything our founding fathers did to make this a free country for all will be gone.  The truth about Obama is out for many to see, but many who have been mesmerized by his good looks and calming voice they have a hard time differentiating what is real from what Obama tells you what you want to hear. 

So between him not being American born and refusing to provide proof, him refusing to release his medical records, his relationship ship with Ayers, Weather Underground, Wright (which I'm sure a lot of people don't know that Obama said in an interview that he went twice a month for 20 years, which meant that he sat through hate-filled sermons twice a month for 20 years and never got up and walked out), his redistribution of weath, his ties to radical muslims, receiving money for his campaign from the enemies who want us wiped off the planet, ACORN, voter fraud, buying votes, etc., etc., those are just a few of the many worries I think about when I imagine what it will be like if Obama gets in.

While I know most of the posters on this board are set in their minds on who they will vote for (or have already voted for), maybe there are a few that are just not quite sure.  So while this post will not pursuade anyone for or against Obama it is just to express my fears (though no words can express the feelings). 

Anyway...here are a couple good links I found below.

http://asburyerie.org/files/sermon%20written/Our%20Country,%20'Tis%20of%20Thee%20-%20July%206,%202008.doc

http://swordattheready.wordpress.com/2008/10/27/obama-says-constitution-is-a-charter-of-negative-liberties/

http://keelynet.com/4th99.htm

http://www.americasright.com/2008/10/update-update.html

They may not have been polished but they could think on their own and put an entire sentence together all on their own. Truman, I believe, said **The buck stops here.*** Being a war time president, he took full responsibility for what was going on on his watch for which he was much admired, here and abroad. Johnson gave us civil rights. I did not much like Johnson personally but I admired what he did. He said **I have just given the south to the Republicans** when he signed civil rights into law, but, he had the courage of his convictions and did the right thing, control or no control, votes or no votes. I cannot say the same about the current administration. To them the buck stops anywhere but with them and they would do ANYTHING  to keep their party in control, sacrifice a few seats here and there in order to do the right thing, not in this lifetime, not if it means losing control.

Interesting you should mention 2 Democrats as unpolished but (I assume) decent presidents.

It IS important that our president can express himself well. We as a nation look more and more weakened because our leader does not read and  cannot produce a complete sentence to save his soul; and he was elected to be OUR president and the leader of the free world. What does that say about all of us. The more situations deteriorate the more inarticulate he becomes.  America has always been the mediator in the Middle East but this time, the Italians and the French OMG showed up first.  Norway and Greece were the first on the scene to move Americans out of Lebanon. When asked if they were surprised that the first to show up were not Americans, the Americans in Lebanon said ***NO, I mean, look at Katrina. We thought we would be here a long long time.***  I know that many on the right don't care what the world thinks of us but I do and I think it is always best to have allies. This administration just burns bridges. Scary Scary Stuff.

decision without thinking about all she might miss with her kids.  My mom was at a lot of the things I did in school.  However, my dad was at work.  He was supporting his family by making a living.  He was making our situation better by working that overtime so we could afford stuff.  Would I have liked my dad to be at my tennis match.....sure.  But the reality is that even though he wasn't there watching, he still was literally the one supporting me and I appreciated and loved him for that.

As for Palin, did you ever think that maybe....just maybe she is willing to sacrifice time with her kids to make a better country for them as well as all of us?  Have they asked Obama about sacrificing time with his kids?  No....because we all just assume Michelle will take care of the kids. 

Or is that another conservative "fact"? 

And, yes, those dang whacko liberals like Robert F. Kennedy and those of his ilk should be ashamed of themselves for connecting the presence of thimerosal in vaccines and resultant autism and attempting to STOP it.  Who cares about the children who are already here?  The most important thing is that we make sure not to hurt those inanimate cells in a petrie dish.

And, yes, it's certainly has been proven that there can be side effects associated with the smallpox vaccine where a small percentage of people might get sick and die.  We COULD maybe let the people CHOOSE whether they want the vaccine or not (if enough of it ever actually EXISTED to protect the entire country), but, no, free choice isn't a very "red" thing to do.  So the only logical thing to do is make sure that we deny the vaccine to all Americans so we can ALL die if terrorists decide to use that as a form of bio warfare. (By the way, I truly doubt that lawsuits will be much of an issue if we're all DEAD.)

Right?  I mean, you "red" guys know what should be allowed and denied in the life of every single American, don't you?  You've got some kind of special "divine knowledge" where you know what I should be "allowed" to do with my own personal body, who I'm "allowed" to love, how I'm "allowed" to plan my family, when I decide I'm "allowed" to die, and which God I'm "allowed" to worship without being doomed to eternal damnation?

Title of you post is lifted straight out of TT112OldTimer's post responding to Free Speech Rocks.  When spinning soooo out of control that the brain becomes blank, you can always resort to plagiary.  Hello.  Are you listening?  Vitriol out, vitriol in.  You might be shocked by how much respect you earn with just the simple gesture of extending some.  Respect is NOT a 4-letter word. 

Common sense is exactly what I used when I decided to attack my own bigoted tendencies back when I was still a teenager.  I did not learn any of that from books or courses I took in school.  I took it to the streets and reaped benefits beyond measure from those lessons. 

Au contraire.  The bluster of bigots is easy to bury under fact and logic.  No need to be thwarted by that.  Their reservoir of insults runs very shallow, but the intellect is a well that one can dig as deep as is necessary.  Fact/truth is another arch-enemy of the bigot.  You at least had the wisdom not to attempt to ridicule the context post since you knew you would be in way over your head and besides, you are allergic to the other side of the coin.  As they say, if you can’t stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.   It can’t be much fun to find yourself dumbfounded by your own narrow mind.  Frustrating too...remember it well. 

On the shortcut post:  That was your snipe, not mine.  Snipe begets tripe.  Vtriol out/vitriol in.  Garbage out/garbage in.  Is there an echo in here? 

Not the slightest bit interested in agreement, validation or vindication.  I am secure enough by now not to need all of that.  But in political contexts, the journey down the road to consensus will never begin in the absence of flexibility, open-mindedness and a good dose of patience.        

What part of my posts reflect your tactics do you not understand?  You absolutely refuse to look at yourself in the mirror, but you do know enough to be outranged when someone sends you your own reflection.  It’s not a pretty sight and furthermore, you become every bit as enraged as you seem to think I am.  You are constitutionally incapable of seeing what a spiteful little vixen you become when your brick-wall logic is thrown back in you face. 

No surprise there.  Bigotry is always blind.  Here’s another example you are bound to ignore:  You are so driven by your hatred of illegals that you would actually weigh in on the side of transnationals and cast your vote for the party who empowers them to outsource your profession overseas and drive your own wages into the ground.  

Well shut my mouth!  Could it be that you have finally run out of insults in the face of the realities of logic and have arrived on the threshold of the next level where most other right-wingers eventually find themselves...running for the hills and back into the open arms of the choir members?  You are big on cliché.  Here’s one for you...you can run, but you can’t hide.  Have a safe journey and I am “sending up a prayer” that you find the sanctuary you seek.