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Every religion has it nuts...remember 9-11? Just checking.

Posted By: sam on 2008-10-27
In Reply to: The plot was by The Aryan Nations - Holy Moly

By the way...calling yourself Christian does not make you one.


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I remember checking back for a response too...sm
**As far as *bad language* is concerned, I think I'd rather be told the truth by someone who curses like a sailor than to be lied to repeatedly by someone hiding behind a Bible.**

I have to agree with you 200% on that. I'm in search of a new church home for this very reason.

As far as Lila, I'm squashing it, tomorrow is a new day.
I can't remember the exact sites, but will do some more checking - sm
But I do know that 1 of them referred to an Anchorage newspaper article at the time of when it happened; I don't think it was like a recent article in the Anchorage paper. I am terrible, I read stuff and try to get it all straight and forget to write down or take note of where I saw it, but I will look for it again later when I am done working.
I will remember that one...if you remember...thou shalt not kill. nm
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LOL. *Liberal Religion* = ANY religion that isn't YOURS.

You don't want EQUALITY in religion.  You want yours to be SUPERIOR to all others.  You want to force your narrow and specific religious beliefs down the throats of every single American.  You can't get them into your religion willingly so you'll FORCE them to fall in step with you via government if you have to.


You couldn't stop abortion by killing abortion doctors, so now you'll do it through the Supreme Court.  And your God on earth just happens to be a president who wants the same things that you do, and so he's willing to throw the Constitution out the window (in violation of his Presidential oath) in order to replace it, not just with the Christian Bible, but with his own personal clone who will legislate her own narrow evangelical Christian views that don't even agree with the less radical, quieter forms of the Christian religion.


Government, schools and universities don't fall into the same categories.


There already ARE religous schools and universities.  Isn't THAT enough for you?


And what about all those many, MANY buildings with crosses and other religious symbols on them throughout this nation where people of like-minded beliefs congregate to worship the God of their CHOICE?  I believe they're called CHURCHES.  Isn't THAT enough for you, either?


Nope.  You're not going to be happy until you can be *superior.*


The sad fact is that in a country with freedom of religion, you never WILL BE, whether you like it or not. You can put 9 THOUSAND justices on the Supreme Court, you still won't be SUPERIOR, and I believe God, who is all knowing, knows that as well!


Because the Muslim religion is the only religion that says.....
Convert or die.
My word, have you gone nuts?
holy cow.  Repeat yourself much?  Go crazy much?  You would be amusing in a freak show sort of way if it weren't so pathetic.  Geez.  Time for your meds?
I don't have nuts to be off, but if you want the facts

check out this link and it shows all of the politicians and your MASTER is at #2.


COPY AND PASTE:  http://www.opensecrets.org/news/2008/09/update-fannie-mae-and-freddie.html


 


Conspiracy Nuts
Wow, now I know how crazy we must have looked supporting Gore in the recount and steadfastly hanging on to hope since he had won more of the popular vote. It's time to let it go and move on. Obama is the president-elect. Deal with it and focus your energy where it can be beneficial to someone. Yikes, get over it you sound like nut jobs.
certifiably nuts
"I think she's a certifiable nut, but isn't she majoring in psychology?"

The two aren't anywhere near mutually exclusive!

Personally, I think the solution here is a state-ordered shotgun wedding between her and the IVF doctor.
There will always be nuts in this world...nm
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Definitely nuts, but not entirely stupid

Will Obama do anything but follow the UN in being ''gravely concerned'' and issuing ''stern warnings''?  And hasn't Obama already said it's not up to the (arrogant) US to say who gets a nuclear program and who does not? 


After his failed Kuwait invasion, remember how long S. Hussein strung the UN along, refusing to allow inspections, pounding his chest, playing bad@ss, and trying really hard NOT to prove to the world he did not have WMDs.  Well, his saber rattling was convincing enough to get himself invaded and his butt kicked.


A few years of this from NK, and they may actually have a guidance system capable hitting something (other than ocean.)   Such petty tyrants have a track record of not playing very well with other nations and I am sure it really amuses them to repeatedly cross the lines drawn by the UN, which they believe is a toothless organization more suited to administering Meals-on-Wheels programs than ensuring the safety of the planet.


ok...will keep checking myself. Thanks! nm
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I am checking you..
I read your posts.  You sound very nice.  But you also sound almost apologetic for putting down your beliefs!  You have a responsibility to clearly teach the unsaved Jesus' message of eternal life.  Your passivity may be what is needed for this day in age, but that is not what God called for.  Yes, we are supposed to show love, yes we are supposed to be caring. He did not say be tolerant of someone elses god or beliefs.  He said we should have no other god before him.  You telling the unsaved that it is okay to have their beliefs in other things is NOT okay.  There are consequences for this.  This is for real.  If you sugar coat everything, it takes away the real necessity of what is needed to be done.  It is NOT okay to believe any other god but God Almight and his son Jesus Christ.  Jesus was NEVER tolerant of that in the Bible.  And telling someone the consequences of h*ll and just saying that straight out, is not coming across wrong in God's eyes.  It is just wrong in this modern world where tolerance is supposed to be the number one rule.  God destroyed whole cities over idolatry and sinful desires.  Was that tolerance?  I read your messages and I dont see where you outline to anyone who is not saved the consequences or the way to get saved.  I just see your beliefs.  They are not just your beliefs, they are GOD'S RULES. 
Just checking
if...
To what the heck? - our country has gone nuts
This is absolute garbage (no not your message), but the fact that people will support this solely because it's Obama's plan. If Bush decided to bring terrorist to the country for "trials" all these same boards praising Obama for doing it would be cursing and cutting down Bush. Double standards! These people should be tried in their own country with an independent jury/judge from various countries. One poster below was right. We do not have enough rooms in our jail as it is. Also they are missing the point. He is not bringing just ordinary prisoners (thieves, etc), he is bringing terrorists and some of them will be released into our society. This is absolute crapola! Their lord could be caught on camera stabbing someone over and over and they'd say "oh that person probably deserved it". I am so disgusted with this country and their double standards.
How are they NOT nuts? Those points could be counted
sheesh
Dont bother with () - she's NUTS.
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On checking, it was not you and I apologize.
It was someone else below.  So sorry.
Next we will be checking the political....

affiliation of serial killers.  Sigh.  What do you think Osama bin Laden would register as if he could register to vote....ummmm....don't think it would be with the Christian right.....?  Are we going to try to list the perverts and see whose list is the longest?  Why even post this, when you have cigar-wielding Bill Clinton on your list?  Do you honestly think this man in the bathroom did what he did because he is a Republican?  If so, that means Billy must have wielded the cigar because he is a Democrat....?


I repeat...why even post this?


Thanks for checking out the site
with an open mind. If he's not your cup of tea, I know it's not easy to plow through a site like that. I had a hard time becoming familiar with McCain's site before the election, but I did manage to keep myself on there long enough to correct some wrong impressions I had about him from hanging around the lefties too long.

I logged in and made it through about 250 votes on questions and gave the civil, even-handed questions about Blagojevich a thumbs up, but some of them (and ones on other subjects as well) were just plain disingenuous.
Hey sam....glad to see you, but I'm still checking out....have to...sm
type for living...

She was so cool. He couldn't trip her up, could he? The more I see of her, the more impressed I am.

And the whole Greta series this week has been great on Alaska and all the people who know her. We went to Alaska for our honeymoon in 2000, and went through Wasilla....it was a beautiful place, and great people....Real people....No wonder Sarah is such a gem!

Talk to you later....
close up of him checking

his watch every few minutes.


 


More fact checking.....

Transcript from CNN last night:


 


FOREMAN (voice-over): A tax cut for every working family with less than $250,000 a year in income, tax incentives for businesses to create jobs, investing $15 billion a year in green energy, on it goes.

The biggest question that economic and tax analysts have raised, over and over, how will he pay for all this, without ballooning the deficit? Obama still did not give an answer.

In the same vein, he once again said he is going to save an average American family $2,500 a year on health care. Health care experts widely say, that is misleading. They do not believe his plan will produce such savings.

And one more quick item -- he said, we can create schools that work. And he had an example.

B. OBAMA: Three years ago, only half the high school seniors at the Mapleton School in Thornton, Colorado, were accepted to college. But, after a rigorous school reform program, this year, all 44 seniors were accepted.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

COOPER: Tom, it sounds like a great school. What is wrong with that?

FOREMAN: Well, it is a great -- that is a great school, Anderson. It sounds wonderful.

"Keeping Them Honest," there is something he did not mention. The revolutionary changes at Mapleton School were financed by Microsoft billionaire Bill Gates and his wife. And, of course, Obama cannot promise that kind of support to every school in the country. It is right there on the school's Web site. You can see it easily. He presented it as if this were simply a reform in a school that worked really well.

It was a heck of a reform. It cost a lot, and it can't necessarily be replicated everywhere -- Anderson.

COOPER: All right. Tom Foreman, "Keeping Them Honest." Thanks, Tom.


oh nuts ....leave her alone already...haven't you piled on enough
go bother someone else
You are driving them nuts with the truth, Shelly.
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How are anti-abortion people nuts
when we as a country are allowing doctors to murder babies that could survive outside of its mother's womb?  I am not for abortion but I don't condone violence at abortion clinics either.  You have, once again, grouped us all into one huge group and title us as nut cases.  I am so sick and tired of a few people doing crazy things and people like you, JTBB, running with it and grouping us all into that.  That is close minded and just plain pathetic.  Someone who is against waterboarding but has no problem killing babies that could survive outside of its mother.  WTH is wrong with some of you people?  Let's be nice to people who want us dead but by all means kill a baby we don't want even though it could survive outside of the womb.  That makes a whole he!! of a lot of sense, huh?  Wise up!
Checking adoption records

I agree.  I think the media is way out of line with that.  Judge Roberts and his wife should be commended and respected for having the love and compassion in their hearts to adopt these children.


The more I see of him, the more respect I have for him and the more I like him.


I am sure while you were checking on how many posts I made...
you also noticed that every post I made was in reply to a post made by a liberal poster. That is not domination. And yes, I am certain my main purpose for coming here was to learn other points of view, and why people the way they feel. I cannot know that if I do not ask, and counter.

I made a simple post stating I would respect the request of two posters not to make them *defend* their positions (their words, not mine). And look how quickly I was attacked for that, in a very childish manner. We do not always agree with each other on the conservative board but generally it does not disintegrate into *get out of my sandbox if you don't want to play MY game MY way." The attack on me on the first post was the very definition of trolling, it was baiting and wanting to start a fight. And when attacked, I respond. Simple as that.
If men checking out women's butts ....
means they are not qualified to be President...take out the whole male race. Sheesh.

And you could have been a little less crude in your description.

Being led by his anatomy didn't seem to bother Clinton's ability to govern. Multiple affairs including one in the white house, but many Democrats think he was the second coming.

If Slick Willie could do it, I have no problem believing McCain could.

JFK had affairs. RFK had affairs. Why don't we just go down a tick list? Where was all the righteous indignation then?


Doing spell checking on others can get you thrown off
I don't use spell check here and I definitely do not correct other's errors, see them all the time but know better than to do for the above reason. When you pay my check, then take note of any errors, ok?
No thanks!. Was just checking on the kids room.
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A Republican response to all that oppose Bush and admin....Dems are a bunch of Nuts...

but read Lurker and Imagine! Just IMAGINE!


If checking the adoption records is part of the normal background check, then the only reason this i
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Oh my! I remember him well. I remember we used to call him...sm
tricky d!ck. He lost the election when he appeared at the first television debate against JFK, slam dunk! He was a very crafty, evil man in my opinion and the latest news reinforces my opinion even more. It was so interesting that he eventually did become president years later and proved to be a disgrace to the presidency.
Yes, they're all nuts. The change they'll get is not the change they thought

Religion

Religion - ?riduculous?


I will tell you what is more riduculous - those who truly believe that there IS NO GOD (wonder how in the he## you got here in the first place)...scary..


In regards to religion
It was Barrack Obama who quoted scripture during his speech at that dinner they had last week.  I'm so sick and tired of hearing people whine and complain because Sarah Palin is a believer.  Well....according to Barrack Obama....so is he!  Palin prayed for our country and people freaked out.  Obama's church preaches about him from the pulpit gaining control in a dominant white world and how they are oppressed by whitey, etc.....that should be more concerning than whether or not Sarah Palin prayed for our country especially since Obama attended that church full of hate for 20 YEARS!!!  Sheesh.
religion
I believe that O sees himself as a Christian with a Muslim father and biracial.

being gay is not a religion
Your talking about two different topics.
My religion is not
Since my sole aim as a Christian is to have a relationship with Christ, I have no religion. I brought up same-sex marriage because of the posts alleging that homosexuals are missing out on some perceived "right." Marriage is not a right in the first place. It is a privilege, like having a drivers license. Blind people shouldn't drive and couples who can't copulate in the way God intended should not be married. Your husband is as messed up as you are. ;-)
It may apply to your religion, but

it doesn't apply to the Constitution.


Are you suggesting that your religion should be the one that rules and that everyone else's spiritual/religious beliefs shouldn't count?


For example, I know some people who don't look at abortion as severely as you do because they believe that life doesn't end, that we merely pass on from one life to another, and that there really isn't any such thing as spiritual death, and that your body is just the "box" you come in but spirit lives on forever and continues to live in different "entities."


I know some people who don't believe in religion at all.


I know some religious people who believe that God gave us free will and technology to help us survive as best we can.


Not everyone is FORCED to believe the exact same religious beliefs that you do.  But the one document we all have in common and to which are are all bound is the Constitution.


I respect you enough as a person to respect and defend your personal religious beliefs. 


Please return the favor.


I have nothing against the Muslim religion anyway

I would bet that there are millions of Muslims throughout the world who are exceptionally good, hardworking people.  It seems to me that each religion has people who will try to twist it around as an excuse to do just about anything.  Look at those Baptists down south who protest gays at dead soldiers funerals because they say God is killing all these soldiers because American is getting too accepting of gay people.  These Baptists are obviously horrible people, but does that mean all Baptists distort their religion to spew hate and prey on grieving families?  Of course not.


I could care less what religion Obama is or was at one time.  I think he is an excellent candidate.  He is one of the few people who could turn this country (and maybe even this world) around.  We need someone strong enough and smart enough to lead this country and help to unite us again, and I think he's the man for the job.  I also agree with what someone else said in regard to his knowledge of the Muslim religion/culture being a good thing, especially considering our current dire situation.


Forget his religion,
he was a total bomb as a governor. He said one thing to get elected governor, then changed his mind when he decided to run for president. Then he went around the country bashing Massachusetts. Now there is a story in the newspaper that there were illegal immigrants painting his house even after all the problems with his landscapers. Such a hypocrite.
Sorry....I do not ever "check" my religion...
it is not put on on Sunday (or Saturday, whatever day one chooses to observe) and taken off on Monday. It is part of the fabric of my life. It is a constant. And that is not a bad thing. Have you read the papers of the founding fathers, wise men of great vision? They did not check their "religion" at the door. It is part of parcel of our founding documents and heavily influenced their decisions. People came here from England for the express purpose of religious freedom. THat is what this country is based upon. And from that desire for religious freedom came all our other freedoms. Our base set of laws is based on the Ten Commandments. Basic moral principles. So I beg to disagree. Our founding fathers lived their beliefs. They did not check it when they walked into Independence Hall.

The establishment of a state religion is prohibited by our constitution. Prayer inside the white house is not prohibited. They pray in the senate and in the house. They prayed on the steps of the Capitol on 9-11. Nothing in the constitution prohibits prayer, in fact it says freedom of religion and the free expression thereof and certainly says nothing about keeping it in church.

The freedom of religion clause was for a specific reason...that no government would establish a state religion and compel the entire country to follow it. It expressly provides for the free expression of faith. And it should not be a basis for discrimination.

Yes indeed, wise men of great vision, our forefathers. If you are interested in how they felt and thought, at this site are their quotes.

http://www.eadshome.com/QuotesoftheFounders.htm


Please give an example where she put her religion above the...
needs of our country. She has certainly done fine by the state of Alaska. Higher approval ratings than either O or Joe.
using religion as a blunt
instrument to beat your opponent over the head with is a very cynical misappropriation of the teachings of the great religions.  It does more damage to the believers than it does to the nonbelievers. 
seems to have more to do with religion than politics nm
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I know, I don't think religion should be part of it either (sm)
But if McCain had been attending a white supremist church that hated African-Americans and had a minister who spewed hatred, and he had attended that church for 20 years and called the minister one of his mentors.....who would vote for him?? No black person, no non-caucasian person, and at least 90% of whites would not vote for him either!
They don't care if you got religion or not..they
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Of course, you better hope you do have religion
they are already in Europe doing just that. The Muslim population has gone out of control as well as their minds since, unfortunately, Europe was trying to be so PC and let them come in. Bet they're regretting that now.

Now, they wanna do the same with country and if you turn your back to it, they'll have those in this country trying to tell us how to think.....wait....what am I saying.....they already do!!!
Holy cow! You could use some religion...
Muslim or otherwise!!