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Every hour you spend trashing O is one less hour

Posted By: You have to address the economy. sm on 2008-10-10
In Reply to: Oh Obama lovers....it just keeps getting - better.............sm

Just exactly what is it you think the nation needs to hear about? You are running your clock out on an empty tank of gas.


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About an hour a week.
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Ok, no more 5-hour energy for you...lol (sm)
While I usually agree with most of your posts, because I tend to flip flop a little between left and right myself, I am sure that conspiracy theory is incorrect. I don't think Obama is going to just be a martyr for the democratic party.  I actually think that regardless of which candidate wins there will be a danger of assassination.  It doesn't take the majority to be racist, it just takes one nutjob really. But really I think you were up too late and hyped up a bit too much and letting your mind wander a little too far.  I am sure there were lots of reasons Biden was chosen but no, that hypothesis you stated is kinda too far out there.
He makes $10 an hour
They only work 36 hours a week and taxes are taken out equaling $300 a week. Not his choice to work half days on Friday, its the companies. He tries to pick up odd jobs with his brother when they can, but right now they are lucky to even be building houses the housing market is so slow.
Why the huff? The debate will be - what? An hour?
be around long after that, and other debates after it, are long forgotten. And most likely after the 'bailout' money all gets squandered, as well. The problem didn't happen overnight, and it's certainly not going away overnight, either.
It took about an hour after I viewed the video.
It is better than just reading something that is posted and believing it on its face. If I really hated Democrats as I have been accused of, I would have accepted it at face value. I didn't. And now that I know the truth, you could not pay me enough to vote for a Democrat this election. When a party messes up this badly they need to be held accountable, and at the ballot box is the best place to do that.
Full unedited almost 2 hour interview -

of Mike Wallace with Iranian President will be on CSPAN Monday evening.


http://inside.c-spanarchives.org:8080/cspan/fullschedule.csp?timeid=212022255651


Man! I spent only a half hour looking at that site!
I could have spent more time but I'm was limited to the half hour. This man spent a lot of time deciphering and examining the certificate. I wonder if they will call on him to testify (probably not).
They do in my state - 1 40-hour week.........earthling..........nm

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A hate crime occurs at least once every hour in the

Wasn't this predicted recently?


http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5gvUetkOxJwgY0GbCxg1_f75A1CqA


Good discussion on PBS' Lehrer News Hour

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/political_wrap/july-dec05/bop_9-2.html


 


Very good discussion of the political ramifications of the current governmental failure in this emergency - includes New York Times columnist David Brooks, a Republican with some rather surprisingly accurate statements.


trashing crosses???>

Unbelieveable.  But, then we have a red neck yahoo shooting his gun and intimidating that maybe he shot it off cause of the antiwar people outside his gates and no one does anything about this?  Oh geez..Almost each day since Bush has been in office and especially since this illegal immoral war, I have searched my soul for reasons why I still love America and each day, it is getting harder and harder.


Today I went shopping and ended up at Wal-Mart cause the prices were less expensive than other stores..I looked around and people's cars are clanking, falling apart..Gas prices are sky high.  Check out what people make minimum wage, how could they possibly even afford to rent..Recently I read an article how other industrialized countries give paid time off for pregnancy up to five weeks, America gives nothing, other industrialized countries have universal health care, America has nothing.  America, where are you?  Thankfully, so many are realizing this..OMG, we even have the Rolling Stones, a totally commerical band, singing a political song, LOL.  I was a teenager during the Vietnam War and a young woman during Watergate.  I never wanted to see anything like either of those again in my life time.  I was expecting to live a peaceful happy life..but darn it, both are here again, i.e., Iraq and Rovegate, and, of course, the political person I am, Im right there with it all..sigh..


We will also be trashing our 401K if the O gets in....sm
...and as I've posted before, if it comes right down to it, I WILL stop working and let the govt take care of me.

I now make $60,000 a year, give or take, and work 12 hours a day 7 days a week. I cannot possibly work any more, and I cannot afford to have the O take my money away and give it to people who don't work at all. When that middle class umbrella cuts in half again...and since it's now 120,000, it could be real soon for me.....there's no way, no how I'll stand for more taxes from my blood and sweat as it is.


As my husband says..... We'll quit working, and become good little communists....if it comes right down to it....and if they try to our guns away, we will go down fighting....and if the thought police come to our door because they don't like what we think? Oh well....we'll take a few of them with us.....



1984 will be here...in ol' 2009......and it ain't pretty.



I am STILL pulling for McCain......as Rush says, if we have to drag Yosemite Sam's behind over the finish line, we have to drag it over....and it's gotta be done.....


I can just hear the rabid right trashing it now.

LoL.


Why do you call facts trashing....
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It's not trashing Obama....it's all the facts...sm
he is a house of cards waiting to fall down.


Just you wait.


I personally don't think McCain is all that much better, just slightly.



Just ignore them, Carla. They wouldn't be trashing

Pat Tillman's mother if his mother was a Bush worshipper.  I think what they're saying is beyond ignorant.


The TRUTH of the matter is that Pat Tillman joined the Army in June of 2002 because he was so moved by the terror attack of 9/11 that he wanted to *get* Osama bin Laden in Afghanistan.  That was almost a year before the Iraq invasion when Chickenhawk Bush sent our kids to die for his fake war based on lies of WMD.  Obviously Tillman saw through all Bush's crap, just like most Americans today see through it.


Believe Tillman's mother?  You bet!  I'd believe her any day of the week over lying Bush or his robotic groupies that troll this board. No contest!


No one is trashing Tillman's mother, Libby.
What an incredibly bizarre thing to say.  I guess that fits your bizarro alternate universe angry liberal planet view of the world.  How could anyone expect any more from you than that.  Not surprised.
Tax and spend...

but not in that order


"I think at this point there needs to be a focus on an immediate increase in spending and I think this is a time when deficit fear has to take a second seat . . . I believe later on there should be tax increases. Speaking personally, I think there are a lot of very rich people out there whom we can tax at a point down the road and recover some of the money."
-- Barney Frank, October 20, 2008


Neither can I. I'm going to spend it
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He never seems to explain how he will spend the
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SHE did not spend it, GOP did. - see message
I take great issue with the fact that we have some serious problems in America (unemployment/lost jobs, housing crisis, war, etc) and everyone is focused on where and how much was spent on Palin and families clothes. Hooey is what I say! (sorry don't know how to spelly hooey(who-ee)). Everyone is focused on money. Money, money, money. That's all anyone cares about. Obama is picked and everyone is praising the democratic choice because he is not someone who has been in Washington for centuries like the other. Palin is picked and republicans are critized that she has not been around for centuries. Obama has no experience and that's okay "we need a fresh face with new ideas". Palin is picked who has experience and people chose to ignore that. So everyone wants people who have money in the white house and she is critized for not having enough. Everyone is into the "image". Palin and her family do not live like the high-fallutin (sp?) washington beurocrats do. They don't spent thousands of dollars on clothing. But because "image" is what everyone wants, the GOP buys them clothes. God knows she's made fun of for everything else. She already answered the question. SHE did not buy clothes, etc for her and her family. The GOP did. She has no use for those clothes and they either have been or will be returned. As for people going after her to "verify" this. I think that story is a bunch of crapola! I don't believe it. I have not seen a credible source to verity they haven't returned the items. This is probably like that anonymous coward who is trying to stir up trouble by saying Gov. Palin lost the election for the republicans. Gov. Palin did not lose the election for them. McCain did that all by himself (and GOP for even picking him, and GOP for not picking a different VP candidate). If anything Gov. Palin held it together. Everytime he started diving in the polls she would get out and give speeches and the debate, and his poll numbers would go up. People loved Gov. Palin. Others were just bitter or hateful.

She never "stepped over the limits", because the GOP was the ones who determined that her family had to hold the same image so they did what they needed. The GOP knew very well people would not vote for someone who's family is a jeans & t-shirt type of family. Image. That's all that anyone cares about and if the McCain camp had any chance at all the GOP knew they had to present an image to the public.

She and her family gave everything back. It will be (or has been) verified. People need to stop focusing on this petty insignificant issue and lets move ahead. We will never make this country great if the democrats keep focusing on Gov. Sarah Palin and what has happened in the past. The democrats are always screaming at us stop looking in the past. I read somewhere that this is why the democratic party will fail. Because they don't look ahead, they keep focusing on Palin and keep preferring to kick her while she is down. Leave the lady and her family alone. They've gone back home and you will not have to see them or hear from them again.
LOL. SHE will spend too much in govt?
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We don't have the money to spend.

That's the problem. They have to borrow the money from other countries. If they keep printing money like its going out of style, our money will have no value and you'll be taking a wheelbarrow full of money to buy a loaf of bread...if you can find a loaf of bread.


As you say, what part of that don't you understand?


Really? Then perhaps you should spend your time
reminding the posters who continue to say it ain't so, that Obama isn't really dropping those charges. Talk to them, the rest of us do not live in O land.
Totally against. You cannot spend and get
If you were in debt, what are you to do, I guess get more in debt. Then you beg your family and friends to bail you out and now you owe them plus your debt and it get worse and worse. Finally, bankrupt and could be out in the streets.

Well, isn't that what we are doing with Obama in office? Isn't that what we are doing with this stimulus, but now EVERYONE is involved?

By tomorrow, after this new TARP program comes out by our new treasury, we could be about 2 Trillion dollars in debt total, plus the 750 billion from the previous bailout. We need to pay off our debts and not create more!

I agree that cutting taxes may not have helped, but I believe some of us who are in this mess have done it to ourselves (me included). Some wanted a fancy car, better house, nicer things and we bought and bought (not all of us) and now our nation is running and functioning by being in debt.

Took an 8 hour Crown Ministry class and it was incredible. They have a website and they recommend not to call a credit counselor, but to call one of them and guess what, IT IS FREE and they tell you what to say to your creditors and how to set up a budget plan. I am paying off all my debts no matter how hard I work and getting rid of a car and going by a strict budget.

I believe if this stimulus goes through the way it is by spending and spending, well, the ugly head of inflation will appear. I do not want my credit cards to rise to 30-40% interest or have the bank say, cough up the money honey, nor do I want to pay 12.00 for half gallon of milk.
You should take your two cents and spend it on
Badly needed, I'm afraid.
by your logic you think we can spend sm
our way out of debt???????

There is no logic at all to that line of thinking.
Here's how to spend your tax rebate money

How to use the rebate:


As you may have heard the Bush Administration said each and every one of us would now get a nice rebate. If we spend that money at Wal-Mart, all the money will go to China. If we spend it on gasoline it will all go to the Arabs, if we purchase a computer it will all go to India, if we purchase fruit and vegetables it will all go to Mexico, Honduras, and Guatemala, if we purchase a good car it will all go to Japan, if we purchase useless crap it will all go to Taiwan and none of it will help the American economy.


We need to keep that money here in America, so the only way to keep that money here at home is to buy prostitutes and beer, since those are the only businesses still in the US.


You mean with all the time you spend posting on
Your hubs must make a wad, huh? Seeing as how you obviously dont work a lick.
How much time did you spend watching
the video and confirming every fact? I care about all this and read what I can, but that sounds borderline obsessive. JMHO of course.
Not so much minority, just not as much time to spend on it...
as some seem to have...

It has been my experience with 2 hospital jobs that I had, most of the women, probably 95%, were married and did not need to work. This is going back some 16 years, but it was reasonable back then. A lot of women I worked with talked about how they ocketed their pay in the bank and lived off the spouses pay and benefits.

Times have changed so much. I was a single, newcomer, who needed every penny I made because I lived week to week, but they would always vote down the benefits because they did not need them, and they always put me down all the time. Luckily, there were a few bright shining stars who were open, friendly, and helpful - who taught me SO much about transcription; but the majority, well, not so much.

My point is that our profession has one of the biggest class divisions I think I have ever seen or experienced.
She can spend all the campaign donations she wants
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Why would anyone with any sense at all spend $500,000 instead of $12.00 if he could settle it...

Makes sense -- spend 500,000 to block all the lawsuits but not 12.00 for your BC.  Where is everyone that was hollering about what was spent on Palin's wardrobe.


 


And I gave him money and he can spend anyway he wants.
I will be watching with great expectations.
It is his money, he can spend it as he chooses.
What do you think would happen to our economy if everyone stopped spending money? The purpose of Georgie Porgie's stimulus checks were to get everyone out spending money and helping businesses stay afloat.

It takes a lot of nerve telling anyone how to spend their money. That's why it is called "their" money, not yours!
but it is his money to spend as he chooses -
Yes, the economy is horrible, but that does not mean that the people that have money should not spend their money.

I happen to have more money than one of my sisters; however, I don't not spend my money because she cannot afford to spend any.

If he was not spending his personal money on what he chooses, he still would not be giving it to other people to buy cars and pay their mortgages!
Survey: How many hours a day do you spend on these boards? Please?! Thx. nm
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How much time do you spend on both political boards sm
with an opinion to just about every post out there? Seriously. Are you a transcriptionist? Because if you are, you're in the wrong field.
As passionate as you are on our country and all that is going on, you should channel all of this emotional energy towards actually making a difference instead of rebutting every single statement - both Conservative and Liberal, like volunteering for your local conservative chapter or something.
Write a political column.
Run for office.

You spend plenty of time cat fighting when
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I'd rather eat glass than spend a single minute
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Obama says.. "Show me the money". I will spend it
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Spend at least as much time on pub party rehab
What ails your party has next to noting to do with Obama. I don't suppose anyone should expect republicans to recognize the severity of their own party's schisms, especially since their leader thought the economy was "essentially sound" and barely addressed the subject during the campaign.

I heard a sobering statistic yesterday. Among republicans, only 18% of them support SP as a future party leader. I would not be pinning my hopes on her for 2012. Did you happen to notice how brilliant Obama's campaign organization was. That is what you will be up against in 4 years. I am suggesting that the party needs to figure out how to connect with voters between now and then. You have a wide split within your own ranks. Personally, I think they need to move their platform principles more to the center. You may have different ideas. You need to come up with some new blood, and it's not as though you do not have good candidates down ticket who deserve their party's attention in terms of lifting them up into the national spotlight. If you spend the bulk of your time focused on how much you hate Obama and think you can run a successful campaign based on smear, you will be stuck out again.

This in no way implies you should not question him, but if all you have is attacks and offer up no alternatives to policies you oppose, you are bound to repeat these election results in 2012. The party needs a makeover. For starters, a central theme might be nice. Here's a clue for you. Putting all you eggs in the right fringe basket and turning a blind eye to the electorate's desire for bipartisan cooperation and solution's oriented diaglog will lead you straight into the dead end you now find yourselves in.

No problem with checks and balances, but may I suggest you spend at least as much time checking your own party's out-of-control free fall?
Hello. So, the gov prints fiat money to spend

it's way out of this depression.  Let's see if that works for your family.


You lose your job, you have no income, but you spend and spend on your credit cards, up to their max, all 25 of them, thousands of dollars in debt that you will never even be able to pay the interest on, and then the holders of your debt say pay up or we're coming after you, taking your home, everything you own, including your first born.  What do you do then?  Have you spent your way into prosperity or have you spent your way into bankruptcy?


I'm sure you are not trillions and trillions of dollars in debt, and you probably don't have any printing presses to counterfit monopoly money, but if spending your way to posperity will not work in your family, what makes you think it will work with the government?  It can't without dire consequences.


 


 


 


Ah yes, governor Rendel, of the tax and spend branch...
of the Democratic party. I saw where Specter finally changed parties...only a formality, he has voted as a Democrat for years. Obama got elected and he wanted on the train...lol.
You must spend more time listening to talking heads

Yeah, and his "viable plan" is only to spend trillions
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Yeah, lets spend billions, go into more debt while
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On vacation and not watching the news, thanks. I don't spend all my time sm
watching politics so I guess I missed it.
Yeah, spend more taxpayer money on food stamps.
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It is waste alright! You dont spend taxpayer money
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