Every group has their nut jobs.

• You guys remember the homeland security report...(sm) - Just the big bad
  • Every group has their nut jobs. - Trigger Happy
    • Here's the difference...(sm) - Just the big bad
      • That's not only not true, but completely unfair. - Zville MT
        • It absolutely is fair and true...(sm) - Just the big bad
          • Nope, it was only some pubs, - Zville MT
            • I really am not trying to lump....(sm) - Just the big bad
      • The right not only defends their nut jobs sm - riddle me this
  • More, more, more - - snooze -nm
  • Oh, please. Any group has their nutcases. - Ya know? I am sure you do. nm
  • I don't think this had anything to do with politics. - Zville MT
  • They said this about the lefties when Bush was President. sm - LVMT

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I posted on this about six weeks ago.  This group was in a small town in Wisconsin near me and got EXTREMELY negative press, of course, so at least that was good.  I did feel really really bad, though, for the family of the soldier that died and their being forced into this ridiculous spectacle.

I try to feel better about it by thinking these radical evangelical crazies come out in the open and end up revealing to the general American public how nuts they are that and that perhaps as a result some of the current Republican love affair with evangelicals may erode a bit.  Now, of course, I realize they don't represent Christians in general.....I'll stop there.

Below is from the Protestwarrior website or else "RNC Watch":

Although the Protest Warriors usually make a big deal about how they have been the victims of leftist "violence," several of their recent bulletin board posts advocate carrying concealed weapons to demonstrations at the RNC. "I would bring pepper spray," writes one. "I will be utilizing my concealed weapons permit," writes another. "We should be prepared for violence," writes a third. These posts are similar to the infamous CraigsList NYC posting of more than a year ago in which a New Yoker wrote that "We need good old fashioned Conservatives, the kind that believe in God, Country, and Family (the Mom and Dad kind), the kind that played football, baseball, and basketball, to help with security [at the RNC]. This is totally separate from the organized Convention. We will meet the groups determined to disrupt the open discussion of ideas (the Convention) with a group of our own and battle them in the streets of New York."

You can also see picture of the founders of Protest Warriors lovingly cradling high-powered fire-arms on the PW website. "ProtestWarrior HQ is now heavily armed," the site operators write.

(Picture Caption: The Founder of Protest Warriors) Recently, a small media stir was created by a tiny, right-wing fringe group known as the Protest Warriors.

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Or take a look at this link:

ProtestWarrior Forum Index » Now that's Entertainment » Pictures guaranteed to terrify liberals Goto page 1, 2, 3 ... 125, 126, 127  Next    View previous topic :: View next topic  Pictures guaranteed to terrify liberals Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2003 3:50 pm Alan Site Admin Location: Austin, TX Gender: Male We recently drove out to San Angelo, TX to meet up with our good friend Chris, a Marine who offered to take us out shooting and teach us the finer points of peace through superior firepower. http://www.protestwarrior.com/images/misc/guns/guns_08.jpg Chris has some GREAT bumper stickers on his car. http://www.protestwarrior.com/images/misc/guns/guns_01.jpg "Phased plasma pulse-laser in the forty watt range... " "Just what you see, pal." http://www.protestwarrior.com/images/misc/guns/guns_03.jpg Chris brought a wide selection. Everything from 22s to 357 hand cannons. http://www.protestwarrior.com/images/misc/guns/guns_02.jpg "Leftist troll 12 o' clock." http://www.protestwarrior.com/images/misc/guns/guns_04.jpg Can you tell I'm a big John Woo fan? http://www.protestwarrior.com/images/misc/guns/guns_07.jpg When I hold you in my arms And I feel my finger on your trigger I know nobody can do me no harm Because happiness is a warm gun... -Lennon/McCartney http://www.protestwarrior.com/images/misc/guns/guns_11.jpg You feeling lucky, punk? http://www.protestwarrior.com/images/misc/guns/guns_10.jpg Is there anything sweeter than the sound of shotgun shells ejecting? http://www.protestwarrior.com/images/misc/guns/guns_05.jpg Chris is one guy you do not want to f--k with. http://www.protestwarrior.com/images/misc/guns/guns_09.jpg Chris was kind enough to loan us some weapons to take back with us, so thanks to him ProtestWarrior HQ is now heavily armed. So to all the leftists that want to completely disarm the populace, all we have to say is come get some. Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2003 3:56 pm BPond Joined: 24 Jul 2003 Total posts: 7833 Hell yeah! Those are great photos! Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2003 3:56 pm OB_one Location: Virginia (Northern Neck) Age: 72 Gender: Male Great Pics Alan. Looks like you two gonna become real "badasses" Thanks for sharing. OB Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2003 4:14 pm Orange Jewce Location: Washington, DC Age: 18 Gender: Male http://www.protestwarrior.com/images/misc/guns/guns_11.jpg Somebody who knows how to doctor images should write "PWNAGE!" right across this sweet picture. Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2003 4:15 pm BOgg Gender: Unknown great pictures, shows what you stand for. War and violence. Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2003 4:17 pm TheInfragableKrunk Joined: 31 Jul 2003 Total posts: 14052 Location: Washington, American Empire (AE) Age: 20 Gender: Male Actually we stand for peace via superior firepower. Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2003 4:18 pm Alan Site Admin Location: Austin, TX Gender: Male BOgg wrote: great pictures, shows what you stand for. War and violence. BOgg earlier wrote: One thing's for sure, prepare for your in-home (usa) war, too much opposition is growing and its gonna blow in your faces. If bush is re-elected, ill be the first to assassinate him. Yeah, we're not peace-lovers like Bogg. Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2003 4:21 pm Moderate Centrist Location: Neve Dekalim, Gush Katif Age: 29 Gender: Male Alan, you guys are heros. Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2003 4:22 pm Orange Jewce Location: Washington, DC Age: 18 Gender: Male Alan and Kfir, Why can't you ban that pseudo-poet, Straight Outta Here, He wants it and you know it! Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2003 4:22 pm Yes. We are a group of individuals. Did you lose your dictionary? any group that insists its beliefs are the only true beliefs, works actively to force those beliefs on me, believes men rode around on dinosaurs, and wants to control my reproductive organs, and keep my children in the dark about their sexual function is not my enemy, but I do avoid them. Oh, and Jehovah's Witnesses banging on my door -- I avoid them too.   There are fanatics in any group and usually they are an embarrassment to the rest of that group, and usually are the most hypocritical. I can't speak for other Christians, but I do apologize to anyone who has been made uncomfortable by one. Usually a "no thanks" should suffice. :) Why does anyone or any group want you to vote? To support their agenda. That goes for democrats, republicans....Obama's agenda is socialism. Thanks, but no thanks. group of cells....... Gee, yea, we were a group of cells. That is how God planned it to be, so just because you were a group of cells, you would have hoped your mother would dispose of you JUST because you were a group of cells on the way to making a human being? Just out of curiousity, exactly what group of people would fall in the category of *redneck ignoramouses?* I have heard the term redneck before and kind of get a mental picture when I hear that. I would just like to know for sure. You seem so knowledgeable about the monkey issue. Thanks. Not a group I'd ever want to be included in. x this is what my moms group said when I would not get pregnant, even though I had a several kids. Not Republican enough! Ha!Ha! Not mommies and me enough! Oh, please. Any group has their nutcases. nm glad to see you and weepaws are having that big group hug Pat yourselves on the back I'm sure you are both loving parents. Congrats! Sarah Palin is too. To try to insinuate she doesn't love her kids because she works outside the home is too absurd. That's nice you can both work at home. That is a choice we have been able to make due to people like Sarah Palin. Sarah Palin wants to make the country a better place. That is a very admireable trait in her. Listening to you two talk you are sending us back to the 1940s and 1950s where a woman's place was in the home, in the kitchen, barefoot and having babies. If your for Obama and Biden that's fine but to cut down someone who is trying to make the country a better place for her children and she has the loving support and help from her husband and family there is nothing wrong with that. Overall it sounds like you are quite nervous because Obama and Biden are going to have to do better than they have been to win. Your hatred and loathing is coming out. Just gives me the heebie jeebies to listen to it. Why else would any religious group want you to vote? Silly girl! Replace all your dems with you. Do not group all...sm the posts on this board to one party or the other. Whenever a lone person posts something that you don't agree with, you attribute it to all democrats. We do not all think alike. That is the wonderful thing about us, we do not march in step, we march to different drummers to a common cause. Another rightwing slander group. Is that all you got? nm x Another leftwing slander group. Is that all you got?- sm You have no proof whatsoever to back any of this up. This is about as good as when they said she banned books from the library and one of those books was Harry Potter. What the leftwing forgot to remember was Harry Potter hadn't even been written yet when they said she banned it. The leftwingers are in a frenzy to try and trash McCain & Palin because it's not looking to great for Obama and Biden. If Obama and Biden were so great and "everyone" wanted him as president he would be soaring ahead in the polls. But he's not. He's neck and neck and depending on which poll you read he's either ahead or behind by just a few points. Looks like the right-wing group is getting a little testy! (nm) :p CITI group bailout Okay, MSN just said the new administration will go into significant deficit spending to fund programs and bailout. They are talking a 700 Billion package here. Can anyone tell me how they will do that and where does deficit money come from? Seriously. I don't get it. Are we losing more and more of our future personal security here? Does this get borrowed from other sources (as in the spending they did instead of funding our social security?) Without that Social Security income in my future (not too far off, I might add) on top of what I have lost in my 401K and IRA, I am doomed. HAMAS is a terrorist group nm Like that group of scholars could determine anything.... how do we know WHO the cartoon meant? Get over it already. Unless the chimp is wearing a Hello, My Name is Obama sticker, we don't know who it represents. See the above thread about Holder regarding jumping to conclusions. What hate group do you suppose you ## maybe common for your age group (my dear) zoom, zoom, zoom I think you have a misogynistic overtone. Look that up. I definitely do not condone group sex, eeewww!... It is one after the other! All together, ewwww! The group that met with Obama & Clinton in Chantilly, VA? nm z It became political when a group of activist judges... thumbed their noses at the Constitution and legalized abortion from the bench. Let's get the facts straight. I don't understand why, if you folks are so sure you are right, you get so angry when someone disagrees with you. At least admit what you are giving the right to choose. The right to kill a baby. Because that is what is happening. If left alone the child would mature and be born. It is alive. It is moving, heart is beating, taking nourishment. Alive, no matter how much you deny it. So when you have an abortion, you are killing a child. If you are pro choice, you are pro killing a child. At least be honest about it. As a matter of fact, I work with a group... who provide help and counseling to women/girls who find themselves in this position. We have referrals for adoption if that is the choice the person makes. If the person elects to keep the child (and I am pleased to say very many have), we have several agencies which help with that. We have businesses who will provide jobs. We have housing referrals. And we do not stop supporting once the baby is born. We have a network of volunteers who will help with babysitting while the mother works until she can afford daycare. And most of the girls who make the decision to have and keep their child are very motivated to provide for that child. If it takes a week, a month, or a year, we help with that. We have had girls come in after an abortion wanting to talk to someone and we try to help those girls cope. The abortion providers are nowhere to be found when the regret sets in. And often times, it does set in. I am also glad to say that some of those girls have joined us as volunteers. So I do put my money where my mouth is. It is a very small fish in a very large barrel...but if one baby is not aborted, I consider it a victory. The concept is similar to any group plan. without compromising the care. It is the FEHB (Federal Employees health Benefits) program. It is really good coverage, low deductibles, several choices. Heres the home page website: http://www.opm.gov/insure/05/index.asp Obama comes from the group of Chicago crooks. nm I have never in my life seen a group of people in such denial over EVERYTHING!! Get your heads out You people deny that the dems are responsible for the housing crisis.  Do some objective research!!  They most certainly DID cause the crisis!  You deny that the voter fraud from ACORN is a big deal, and that they are not trying to sway the election to any particular side!!!  There were over 200,000 fraudulent votes in Ohio alone!!  I was watching on CNN about this (the station that NEVER says anything negative towards liberals), and they were even talking about what a huge problem this is.  They showed a ballot with the name of Jimmie Johns.  They found the address, and it was Jimmie Johns restaurant - and there are 10s of thousands of ballots like this.  And who worked for ACORN?  Yup - the people's Messiah Obama.  And somehow you all will find a way to minimize this and twist the facts, and probably blame me for telling this to you... For crying out loud. His target group IS workers are so low that they come up not owing tax at the end of the year, then it would not be possible to give them a tax cut or a tax credit, unless it is a refundable tax credit. So far, you have not provided any evidence that Obama is proposing a REFUNDABLE tax credit. As a matter of fact, why do you supposed he call this tax credit "Making WORK pay." The credit will zero out at zero tax liability unless it is a refundable tax credit. Again, it seems like you cannot produce any evidence that this is the case. Or can you? What about the socialist question with regard to progressive tax reform proposals only being socialist at Obama's hands, an no other president in history since 1913, including the 7 republicans who raise the top income bracket rates to as high as 63% to 94%, as opposed to Obama, whose intent is to restore that rate back to 39.6% as it was in 2000 when Bush took office? It is not the same at all, not picking on a specific group,race, or ethnicity....sm as a matter of fact, some of my worst dictators are AMERICAN, they hate dictating and so act like little kids and speed talk, trip all over their words, slur everything together, mispronounce without correcting themselves, chew, burp, rattle papers and x-rays, etc., and then will correct several paragraps because they "forgot" this or that. At least foreign docs have an excuse, and many try to enuniciate clearly, spell things, out, etc. There is no comparison here...complaining about high percentage of difficult docs in your queue is not the same as drawing a "cartoon" that points directly in one direction, is poorly disguised, and is dispersed and disseminated in a national, hugely circulated newpaper. Just in the interest of full disclosure, other members of the Carlyle Group.... They include among others, John Major, former British Prime Minister; Fidel Ramos, former Philippines President; Park Tae Joon, former South Korean Prime Minister; Saudi Prince Al-Walid; Colin Powell, former Secretary of State; James Baker III, former Secretary of State; Caspar Weinberger, former Defense Secretary; Richard Darman, former White House Budget Director; the billionaire George Soros, and even some bin Laden family members. You can add Alice Albright, daughter of Madeleine Albright, former Secretary of State; Arthur Lewitt, former SEC head; William Kennard, former head of the FCC, to this list. Finally, add in the Europeans: Karl Otto Poehl, former Bundesbank president; the now-deceased Henri Martre, who was president of Aerospatiale; and Etienne Davignon, former president of the Belgian Generale Holding Company. I never knew George Soros was a member. I never bothered to check. Now THAT is interesting. Also, in the interest of putting it all out there...the bin Laden family disowned Osama years before 9-11. Obama's group has tried to shut Stanley Kurtz up several times... He was on WGN radio in August when Obama supporters were told to call in and voice their displeasure about Mr. Kurtz and his appearance. Mr. Kurtz has done extensive research regarding the Obama/Ayers/Wright association. The WGN host offered to have someone from the Obama campaign on to counterpoint Mr. Kurtz but they declined. You would think they would like to refute something they vehemently deny. Like your no-class group that shouted "Kill Him" regarding O at a GOP rally? With Palin? or don't you remember that? Bunch of hypocrites - you guys dish it but you sure don't like to take it. jobs my husband has been a carpenter and self-employed since he was fresh out of school.  after 20 years he had no job, no work anywhere.  he had to go take a job at a store making less than half of what he used to make.  now they are saying they may be laying him off and he hasnt been there long enough to collect unemployment.  I cant imagine things getting worse, but I fear they are going to. Not me, I have 3 jobs, thank you. Why? nm JOBS Maybe Obama is thinking these jobs will last until he is out of office, and then when the jobs are finished, and people are out of work, he can say, see what happened when I was no longer in office. Well of course Obama wants to keep jobs in the USA. Here is why. Do you want $8,500 of your dollars to fund the Useless Nations? I know I don't. Barack Hussein Obama has a legislative record in the Senate and one of his proudest accomplishments is The Global Poverty Act (S. 2433). Barack Hussein Obama's Global Poverty Act will commit us to a stealth United Nations-inspired global tax of $845 Billion dollars... that comes to approximately an $8500.00 tax burden for every household in the United States! Cliff Kincaid of Accuracy in Media wrote: "[T]he legislation, if approved, dedicates 0.7 percent of the U.S. gross national product to foreign aid, which... would amount to $845 billion 'over and above what the U.S. already spends.'" "The plan passed the House in 2007 'because most members didn't realize what was in it.' Congressional sponsors have been careful not to calculate the amount of foreign aid spending that it would require." The United Nation's actual record on ending pain and suffering around the world is pathetic and dismal. Here is the link, check it out for yourselves before you flame me. I am sure I am not the only one who is worried about what will happen when/if he gets into office. ExposeObama.com It is not that Americans won't do the jobs... it is really that they will not do them for the wages given. Unfortunately, we expect a cheap food source, which we get. If farmers have to pay Americans to labor away in fields, they will have to pay more than they do and our food costs will go up. I am actually okay with that. Perhaps retail markup will have to go down some, as well. Coming from California, I know what kind of living conditions migrant famers live in (huge amounts of people in subpar housing, etc.) and understand that Americans WILL do the work, but only for a fair amount of pay. I've had jobs since the day I was old enough to even though there were times I could barely scrape together 2 cents to buy something I or my family needed. Yes, jobs are pretty easy to get, if you don't think you're "above" working at a gas station, McDonald's - whatever it takes. There are plenty of people who use social programs in lieu of finding a job. I see it all the time. They milk the system, if you don't admit that, you're in denial. I don't believe for one minute that the hard-working people in the country that make decent money should have to pay for these people. I have no problem with programs for those who truly need it, but if you were truly to examine most of the recipients of these programs, a good lot of them are abusing it. I worked in a law office where I saw this and I worked in medical offices where I saw this. The sad reality is that those who milk the system are darn good at it and REAP the benefits, but the people who truly need welfare, disability, etc., fight for sometimes YEARS and never receive benefits. I think it's highly tacky of you to insinuate that the only way Whoopie could've attained her success is by using social programs. That is a borderline racist remark, IMO. Would you say that about a successful white actress? Hmmmph. Just WHO do you think does provide jobs? the middle class? how to figure out which jobs are on their way out Anything that requires a loan: houses, cars, trade schools, university of Phoenix type schools, shopping malls, vacations and travel, elective surgeries or cosmetic dental lasik surgeries, etc. Jobs that will increase: Anything that helps America: Teachers, nurses, geologists, scientists, infrastructure, power grids, alternative energy, solar. how it affects our jobs It will affect us if the automakers fail because it is estimated that upwards of 6 million, and some estimates are as high as 10-12 million, people could potentially face unemployment. That is those working for the big 3 as well as those who supply them and those who work for business that all of these people utilize. 6 million is a lot of people now without health benefits and paychecks. Obviously, that will have an impact of numbers of doctor and hospital visits. Green jobs.......... sm would take quite a bit of time to implement as it would take time to build the utility facilities, not to mention retrofitting households to use green energy. I don't think this is a viable short-term plan to help our country, although I do see a benefit from it long-term. However, in creating green jobs and bankrupting the coal industry like he said he would that creates yet another situation where people will be jobless and not paying taxes. With a good portion of our electric energy coming from the coal industry, this number could be significant enough to offset any benefit obtained with green energy and green jobs. We are in a financial crisis and I don't see that there is anyway out of it (unless they yank that Golden Fleece) without immediate tax increases on all tax-paying Americans. Like I said, a plan is just a plan and even with a Democratic Senate, I don't foresee his tax plans coming to fruition in the near future. You nut jobs can have this place Keep on ranting about the stupid b/c like as if you are smarter than Hillary and McCain.  If there'd been even a SNIFF of wrongdoing in the b/c, they would have drug it out and already drug it through the mud.  Personally I don't think a lot of the nut jobs who hang out here are even MTs.  I think they are professional political pot stirers!!! They are bragging about 3M jobs being created. Guess what DH reminded me of? There are millions more unemployed than the 3M (he said 10M, but I'm not sure on that), plus most of these jobs will not happen until 2011. How's that going to help? I'm serious. That will leave 7M still on the unemployment rolls. We are really in for a long haul here. Thank heavens I don't live in a city. At least we can grow our own food. You know if they want to create jobs why aren't we drilling for oil?  Why aren't we getting wind farms going?  If our government would take more money to look into alternative fuels, not only would that stop our dependency on foreign oil but we will need workers to maintain those things, etc.  Those will be jobs that will last.  It won't be like construction work like Obama wants.  Once the roads are repaired and bridges fixed, etc....then what?  I just think we are going in the wrong direction and I just don't understand why.  We need to tap our resources with offshore drilling.  We need to drill Alaska.  While we are doing that, we need to look for alternatives to oil.  The sooner they do that, the sooner car companies can make environmentally safer cars and vehicles.  I mean....come on. I read somewhere that most of the jobs won't get up and running until 2010 or 2011. It takes time. Everything takes time, and so, in the meantime, we have to go it on our own. It's sink or swim right now. Particularly the construction jobs. Those often take at least two years of planning, getting bids, getting materials and getting started. Not very helpful right now. I think everyone on the Hill has totally lost any connection with the real world. © Copyright 2001-09 MTStars.com All Rights Reserved