Either way, Obama was supposed to be CHANGE

• Stimulus versus tax cuts - sm
  • Food stamps will HELP the economy? - OMG... the ignorance is amazing, shameful.nm
    • That is absolutely correct...(sm) - Just the big bad
    • Yes, your ignorance is amazing.... - sm
    • Yeah, spend more taxpayer money on food stamps. - Absolutely nuts... nm
  • If you honestly studied O's plan, you should be - embarrassed and angry he is our president at all.n
    • Like I was embarassed and angry when Bush was our president? - sm
      • How about something original...your wonder boy is in deep crap... - sm
        • and it came out of Ws behind......nm - sm
          • wow, that took some thought... - nm
    • Yeah, the junk in that stimulus is really - unbelievable and cant be justified.nm
      • So lets do all tax cuts which have proven to be ineffective? - sm
        • Why was the economy good until TWO years ago - when democrats took control of Congress? huh?nm
          • Control of Congress??? - sm
          • It took only 2 years to create this mess? You missed your meds. - sm
          • Get real - the ecomony was tanking THEN.... - sm
          • Either way, Obama was supposed to be CHANGE - to believe in? He is nothing but a rotten politici

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Obama is change you can believe in until you have to take it to the bank.

Our jobs have been offshored until now because of greed.  Under Obama and his taxation of small businesses, they will be offshored not because of greed but because of survival.  

You could make a difference for our country by not voting for Obama, but instead, if you vote for him, you are selling out to deception.  You are embracing a socialist, a communist, a Marxist, a liar, a cheat, and someone who legally cannot run as President of the U.S., much less the Illinois senate.  But, you make your choice.  You believe the consumate liar and his lies who sat for 20 years under the teachings of a black racist preacher filled with hatred for the U.S., whose association with Bill Ayers is recent and documented down to the fact that Ayers himself wrote Obama's best-selling book (best-selling in the eyes of far left liberals that is), who is a documented member of the socialist party, whose friends and close allies are extremists who not only bomb innocent people and are unrepenetent but who intend to eliminate (kill) 25 million Americans who they cannot "re-educate" in communist ideaology (gosh dog it, those dreadful capitalists), who refuses to hand over a certified copy of his birth certificate and educational records (my goodness, don't you have to provide your birth certificate to any number of entities who want to know if you are legal, i.e., social security, DMVs, etc., and your educational records would show if you had received aid as a foreigner and in 1963 would have shown you were a negro instead of an African-American which Obama's falsified record shows, please speck up on history), and who thinks Joe the Plumber is so stupid not to realize that if he wants to achieve the American dream, he is going to achieve it only if he lets Obama take what he makes to give to those WHO WILL NOT WORK.  I'd like to see you, liberals, give a share of your 7.5 cpl to those who don't work as hard as you, but then with Obama, that's what you will have to do.  Don't be fooled by his rhetoric that only those making over $250,00 will be taxed.  We will all be taxed, and there will be no incentive to work for any of us because we will all have to give up a piece of our pie so those who do not work can have a piece of our pie.

Here is the dividing line, folks.  We are at a crossroads in our history.  The Lord Jesus puts it this way, "Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction; and there are many who go in by it."

Choose which gate you enter, the wide or the narrow.  It not only determines your eternal destination, but it determines the destination of this country.  If anyone here calls themself a Christian and can vote for Osambo, I daresay you are a liar and cheat just as he.  One cannot be a Christian and vote for a party and a political candidate who is in total rebellion to God's Word.  That is a fact, and if you think any differently, then you, too, like the Obamanation, call God a liar.  May He have mercy upon your soul.  As He makes the rain fall on the just and the unjust because He is no respector of persons, we will all suffer as this country is destroyed and our Constitution that guarantees our freedoms is trampled just as Bill Ayers is pictured standing upon our flag in total disrespect, and we will thank you liberals that we are all in bondage, reduced to third world status, just as the Israelites were in Egypt.  Only Obama ain't no Moses but a Muslim and has no favor with God, and there will be no one to lead us to the Promised Land coming from the Democratic party. 

our conscience guide us politically?

I'm sorry, that is a separation I cannot make.  My faith and religious convictions are part of the whole person that I am.  I vote my conscience.  I want political leaders who reflect my morality.  I also happen to believe there are many Christians out there like me.  There is no "separation" of church and state for me, which by the way was a concept (nowhere specifically mentioned in the constitution) meant to protect the church from the government more so than the government from the church.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with that commercial.  There are condom commercials, "personal" lubricant commercials, and penis and sexual performance enhancing commercials -- why would anyone be offended by a pro-life commercial?  The fact that anyone would be offended is a testament to just how twisted society has become!

a slogan.  He is telling people what they want to hear.  People want change.  But his slogan of change is a false hope.

McCain's slogan of country first is real and he proves that by his service to our country.  It isn't just a slogan.  It is something he believes in and has proved that with his own broken body. 

Do you know that while McCain was a POW, there was a man who made a flag and they would say the pledge of allegiance every day.  These were men severely beaten, mistreated, wounded, and some dying who said the pledge to our flag every day.  Then you have Obama who didn't even put his hand over his heart during the national anthem. 

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/08/27/politics/washingtonpost/main4388540.shtml

http://blog1.thejtandbearshow.com/2008/08/27/obama-rewarded-bidens-lobbyist-son-with-34-million-in-earmarks.aspx

By Tim Reid, The Times of London

Barack Obama's senior advisers have drawn up plans to lower expectations for his presidency if he wins next week's election, amid concerns that many of his euphoric supporters are harboring unrealistic hopes of what he can achieve.

The sudden financial crisis and the prospect of a deep and painful recession have increased the urgency inside the Obama team to bring people down to earth, after a campaign in which his soaring rhetoric and promises of "hope" and "change" are now confronted with the reality of a stricken economy.

One senior adviser told The Times that the first few weeks of the transition, immediately after the election, were critical, "so there's not a vast mood swing from exhilaration and euphoria to despair."

The aide said that Obama himself was the first to realize that expectations risked being inflated.

It used to be yes we can, now it's yes I can and I am the change.

http://www.bigmouthfrog.org/2008/11/27/obama-tells-supporters-i-am-the-change/

So much for a more transparent administration. It seems to be just more of politics as usual. So, Obama is having personnel problems already. He has not even been in office 3 weeks and now TWO of his cabinet members have tax problems? First it was Geithner who "forgot" he had to pay taxes plus had an illegal working for him. And now Tom Daschle??

   http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28958689

Hmmm...let me see...when I had "tax problems" it cost me that problem plus interest and fines. So, I guess if you are an Obama appointee, it doesn't matter whether you pay taxes or not. Gee......with all the problems in our economy, maybe I should get a job in Washington as an Obama appointee. In like Flynn in my opinion.

I am so glad I didn't drink the kool-aid.

to distinguish you in particular as not being a pub when you use no moniker? 

pay for all the spending his administration is doing?  I hope this is the final nail in his coffin so to speak.  Remember when Bush #1 said read my lips...no new taxes and he went back on the promise and wasn't re-elected.  Well....let us hope that the 95% of Americans that he professed to not have ANY kind of taxes raised on them will get p!ssed and we can say goodbye to Mr. Obama in 2012. 

Obama outlines the mission to his military leaders, relies upon their input, and, if in his judgment the plan sounds good, he says "okay."

During the last eight years, Bush (who had his "mission" in mind long before 9/11 happened) insisted on invading and occupying Iraq, and every single military leader that advised AGAINST Bush's plan was fired by Bush, right down to Rumsfeld at the very end.   This is NOT how it's supposed to be.  The Bush way was the wrong way, which is one of the reasons people were (still are) so upset with him.

to help us.  So when does it start?  Where has all that money gone?  So far I've seen nothing but our government take control of more and more things and want to institute more government programs to tell us what we can do with our money.  That is what YOU don't seem to get.  As for the GOP....they are crooks just like the crats.  None of them care unless they are in power and that is all either party wants and that is something that amazingly both pubs and crats don't see  because they are too blinded by their party lines. 

And for the last time....I understand that this didn't just happen during Obama's watch.  In fact, a lot of this crap started way back in ole Bill's administration but all you seem to remember is everything is Bush's fault.  I admit....he had both greedy hands in the cookie jar but if you are going to hold him accountable, you need to look at so many other politicians than just him because a lot of them had their grubby little hands in the cookie jar of greed. 

You have people like Barney Frank who made money off of Freddie and Fannie and him telling us that they were completely sound right before they took a huge nose dive. Then we have Dodd who got money from AIG, got sweetheart loans through them and slipped in the bonuses for AIG for congress to pass.  You have Clinton who pushed for high-risk loans, etc.  There are just so many people who you can point the fingers at here.

As for these bailouts and pork bills that are supposed to help us, how in the dickens are we supposed to pay off this deficit?  The only way is to raise taxes and you can't just do it on the rich because even they can't afford it all.  Obama will raise everyone's taxes....mark my words.  He may want to help others by healthcare, but he is going to cause many more to go under when he gets cap n trade passed like he wants to.  That will hurt so many people.

I'm tired of Obama going to every country and apologizing.  What the heck do we have to apologize to the French for?  It if wasn't for us, they'd be speaking German right now.  I mean.....come on. 

As for the liberals outnumbering the conservatives.......I highly doubt that considering that Fox News ratings are way higher than any liberal media's ratings are. 

There's a huge difference between a demonstration and the real thing.  Hannity goes in knowing he won't be killed and that the situation is controlled.  However, prisoners of a foreign country who do not speak our language and are already scared don't have that luxury. 

So let me guess....After Hannity does this, he'll turn around and say there can't be anything wrong with it because I'm okay.  What a moron.

of the troops?  And his love affair with war is the entire reason they need to be recruited in the first place.

Too bad you think it's just fine and dandy to recruit handicapped people.  Speaks volume about the kind of person you.  The despicable kind that doesn't deserve any further response from me.

Now hurry along and don't forget to kiss King George's ring as you kneel at his feet, worshipping a false god.  What a fool.

Well this is a quote from Joe the Plumber.

"The media's worried about whether I've paid my taxes, they're worried about any number of silly things that have nothing to do with America," Wurzelbacher told the former Republican presidential hopeful on his show, "Huckabee."

This is what is so funny.  In Joe's eyes "taxes" are silly things.  So, you see he's not worried at all about his taxes being raised IF he were to purchase a company.  He thinks taxes are silly and have nothing to do with America.  So, you don't think we're footing this Joe the Plumber's bill already?????    He can't even pay his own taxes.  How will he ever purchase a company worth more than $250,000.00 with an "outstanding" bill?

I hope this works - I have never posted a picture before.  This is my daughter right after she had her braces off.  She has the most beautiful full lips. She got them from my mother.  Notice they are not puffy!

of an angry mob, but I was unable to view it, but I get it!!  That's hilarious.  But I will say the comment about "first they laughed and then they died" will haunt my nightmares -- not so funny.

JTBB, I have to admire your tenacity dealing with these people.  Tell me, what is it like being a pariah?  I know this won't jive with your atheist beliefs, but you know that Jesus was the most famous pariah, so your're in good company!!   LOL

but unfortunately many see it as a temporary situation.  Some people honestly cannot help their marriages dissolve, however, even if you throw the religion aspect out of it homosexuality doesn't even make sense in Darwin's theory.  Homosexuals would naturally die out, because they aren't procreating.

I've not had children either, but just because I haven't and you haven't doesn't make a case for homosexual marriages.