Dont you get it?! Businesses WILL go overseas
Posted By: with O in office because of higher taxes on them!n on 2008-10-14
In Reply to: What a gloom way to look at things... - sm
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The big green businesses are already overseas.......
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Dear Miss Thang. If you dont like it, dont watch.
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rational to one is irrational to another..dont like it, dont read it
Rational posts? Well, maybe you would think that, however, I disagree..but, what the heck, from your continual posts attacking me over the past few months, it is obvious that we dont agree on anything. Gotta tell ya, no one chases a person from a chat board..that is a lame excuse for someone who obviously was not able to hold his/her own with the smart liberals who post on this liberal board. So gt chased her/him away. On please! If a poster is getting to you, you just ignore their posts..dont click on them..Viola! It is that easy! Or dont come on the liberal board if you do not like liberal ideology! Viola! It is that easy! So, Im here all the time am I? Well, punkin, I see your handle always on both this board and the dinosaur board..er..I mean conservative board. Is this what your debating has gotten down to? Lets count and see who is here more often? How ridiculous, how childish, how so....republican. **BIG HUG**
I dont hate Obama. I just dont see him as qualified
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Jobs going overseas
I forgot to mention - as MSMT said in her post titled "It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out what's wrong with the economy" - it stated on yahoo was an article about the layoffs at Dell in Austin.
"Everyone in the room was fired, their jobs shipped overseas".
That's one instance.
I'm taking an online course and 6 students wrote in stating they need to get retrained because they just lost their jobs within the last month. Their job went overseas.
Unlawful donors from overseas????
Watchdog Group Presses for Obama Donor List |
Monday, October 27, 2008 10:59 AM
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Judicial Watch contends that the Obama campaign continues to stonewall on listing its many donors, a step that would go a long way toward clearing up whether the Democratic presidential candidate is accepting unlawful contributions from overseas.
Sen. Barack Obama has raised about $3.3 million from contributors who did not list a home state or who designated their state with an abbreviation that did not match one of the 50 states or U.S. territories, The Associated Press reported, citing records from the Federal Election Commission.
The $3.3 million total does not include donors who have given less than $200 and whose contributions do not have to be itemized. Some of that money also could have come from overseas. About half of Obama's $455 million in contributions so far are un-itemized.
The campaign does not identify those donors, the AP report said.
Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton said, “While the evidence suggests illegal foreign contributions are flooding into Obama's campaign coffers, we have no idea as to the extent of the problem because Senator Obama refuses to divulge the names of all of his donors.”
Fitton said that, when Obama campaign spokesman David Axelrod was asked about the decision to keep these donor names secret, he replied, “We’re probably more forthcoming about disclosure than anyone.”
But the president of the watchdog group countered: “Not true. While John McCain has had problems of his own for allegedly accepting foreign donations, to his credit, Senator McCain does publish the names of all donors to his presidential campaign on his Internet site, regardless of the size of the contribution.”
Fitton said he believes that the Obama campaign appears to be playing fast and loose with campaign finance laws, and he said it has to stop.
The FEC should investigate these allegations immediately, and the Obama campaign should publicly list the source of every single campaign contribution, Fitton said.
“Frankly, it is suspicious that these names have not already been made public,” he said. “There is something deeply unsettling about the fact that foreign nationals can so easily corrupt our presidential election through illegal contributions, while American service men and women stationed overseas may be deprived of the opportunity to even vote.”
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Overseas equals cheap labor
It is because labor is cheaper in third world countries, so corporations and their stock holders make more money with dirt cheap labor. Bush and his group do not care about the middle class, he has proved that over the last..how many years..feels like 40 to me..Right now we are seeing this happen in medical transcription. The company I work for sends out 30% of the work to India and they have a partnership with the Indian company. The other day I had to call American Express and could hardly understand the guy his Indian accent was so thick. They just care about making the rich richer. Greenspan when interviewed on 60 Minutes said America is becoming the rich and the working poor with no middle class and he said something needs to be done about it..But this is the way many corporations, who just so happen to mostly vote Republican, want it.
I would wager a guess that the troops overseas...sm
have much more pressing matters to attend to, than sending campaign contributions to the various candidates.
The proof will be in the election results, as to who they actually vote for.
The majority of our military would cringe at the thought of a commander in chief who regards them with disrespect (I hear it from my military relatives)
They'll vote for McCain, all the way.
That money will go overseas as long as U.S. citizens keep
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You dont get it. Most dont want O to fail, they feel
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Please be right about taxing companies that send buisness overseas.
Wouldn't that be a jolt to the economy? I'd bet it would bring back at least half of the jobs lost to Mexico, India, and China. MTs would sure be in a slightly better position if it cost MTSOs more money to do business outside of the US than in it.
That would be a bill I would support - as long as they didn't attack so much pork to it!
In order to curtail shipping jobs overseas
our F.L. must first crack the whip on Congress, who are the ones that can change tax codes to make offshoring less profitable. ''Yes we can'' will have to take a back seat as long as special interests can spread around enough dough to Congress to buy ''Oh no you can't!''
I'm no Obama fan, but don't we all realize that presidential candidates run on a wish list of items they would like to implement, knowing that they will never be permitted to accomplish many of these things? But, gosh darn it, they still get credit for trying real hard!
Obama may believe he has a Dem-majority congress firmly in hand, but these guys count on campaign money for re-election. And that money is, for the most part, donated by business interests. The businesses certainly do not consider these to be charitable gifts, but investments in obtaining legislative outcomes that work for them.
Obama has, at most, one presidential re-election to worry about. Congressmen can run for unlimited terms and have to make very long-range calculations before they dare to offend offshoring companies by closing tax loopholes that make it better for them to offshore than not.
Thanks to Obama? Get Real. He didn't send jobs overseas....
Most MT companies will not offshore work. Most hospitals and large clinics DEMAND that their work not be sent overseas. Unfortunately, you have those that LIE and I worked for an MT company that sent overload work to India. It was indeed, unfortunate, as the quality was horrible. But, I've trained plenty of MTs who were just as bad with "supposed" experience. They could pass a test, they just couldn't work accurately consistently. I blame that on the "production pay system." I learned MT when they used to respect you and paid you by the hour. There was no demand on HOW MUCH as long as it was COMPLETELY accurate.
oh yea - good point - bringing our medical records back from overseas
Never thought of that one.
Those "small" businesses are the mom and pop...
type who don't have many employees. The small businesses who will be hurt by Obama's plan employ 25-100 people. More taxes on them, more capital gains taxes, they will downsize or close and stop investing because they can't afford it. There are thousands of those kinds of businesses across this country and they employ a significant number of people. It is not just the business owners who suffer....it is the people they employ.
We are not a nation of businesses.
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Obama will CAUSE more businesses to go
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Big businesses........well they wouldn't have to
if we'd stop taxing the crap out of them. This country taxes the crap out of businesses at an alarming rate, when they can go to places like Ireland and have an 11% tax rate. They go to other countries where they don't have to pay those ridiculous taxes. That's the entire problem here. MORE TAXES! Those companies that do stay here, in order to cover their HIGH TAXES, charge you more to cover it for them. That's the point some of us have been trying to make. Obama wants to raise their taxes and I can guarantee you those that are still here will be gone in a flash. YOu get stuck on this big business hiring cheap labor. Well, they would be hiring you if your government would stop taxing the crap out of them.
That's what McCain has said during this entire campaign. STOP TAXING THE CRAP OUT OF THEM and stop running them off and we'll have more jobs brought back here. OBama says TAX TAX TAX them some more and they'll help pay for all of us. BULL!!! Those corporations won't pay him taxes. They up the cost of products and we pay it for them. Obama knows that. This man is a crook through and through....believe what you want. You darn right businesses want huge tax breaks? Wouldn't you? Oh well, maybe not. After all, O lovers love more taxes.
If you're so worried about the little guy who pays too much for his goods, then why not ask Obama why he wants to raise taxes on those very businesses who will turn right around and put them off on you, making everything you buy even higher!
And since you're so down on the big businesses, though I'm not sure what you call big business, who do you think hires everyone else? Poor people? You won't have to worry about the unemployment rate if O gets in there. He'll have taxed and mandated them right out of business and out of this country. The businesses that WILL be hurt are the very businesses you count on day to day and you don't even know who they are. I do. My husband works for one of them. They don't have a big name but they are the very reason you have your grocery store shelves with food on them and many other products. People that think like you don't have a clue all the businesses you use every day that are NOT rich, but they help sustain the very community you live in. They can employ anywhere from 10-200 people and believe me, that is NOT a RICH business but Obama will tax the businesses right out of business. They cannot afford all those mandates and garbage policies he wants to throw in there.
The florist in your town. Well, they're gonna close. They would fall into that MEAN RICH BUNCH all of you hate so much, as well as so many other companies you depend on every day. You've just got your mind so focused on the hugely large corporations, you can't see past that.
Well, when your town starts laying off hundreds at a time from all those businesses you thought you detested but then realize too late those aren't the ones you were thinking about, maybe you'll see it differently then.
Everyone is so focused on all the Wall Street crowd, they have failed to realize that crowd won't be hurting at all. You will and all those businesses that keep you and your community alive and well.
This is the fault of dems and republicans alike, not just one side.
You want to talk shafted, just wait till your local A/C guy can't even run his business because Obama has deemed him "RICH".
Right, Sam! If businesses are taxed more, they are
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Oh, and BTW, $250K is not wealthy businesses
They're middle of the road, just making it businesses. They don't employ 3000 people like big business and they will be hurt the most. Big business will pass the tax increase onto the taxpayers. They'll be able to find loopholes with their 30+ laywers (exageration) who are paid to do that.
Wake up and take the blinders off!
Maybe if small businesses like MT companies
receive a tax credit as a reward/incentive to keep jobs INSIDE the USA, that policy will help American MTs.
That's Obama's policy.
American businesses and individuals should all
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No, mine doesn't, but many small businesses...
including mid range transcription business who operate as S corporations, the entire income from their business is in that bracket and taxed as personal income. It is going to hit small businesses extremely hard. And I don't think it is fair that they have to pick up the tab to pay for tax CUTS for people who are already in the lowest bracket. I don't think that's right, I don't think that is fair, and it will result in businesses closing or laying off workers. So tell me what pray tell does that accomplish?
A government that taxes businesses into the ground...
is a main cause of offshoring. It costs more in taxes to do business in America than any other country in the world save one. And Obama wants to tax them even more, even the small business owners of the S corporation type. In order to fund a cut in tax for the people already in the lowest bracket who pay the lowest amount anyway. Thereby causing more small businesses to fail or cut back on staffing...causing more job loss instead of job creation. Sorry...that makes no sense to me.
Capitalism is when private owners run businesses
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Obama wants to grow small businesses
I can stick my head in the sand and pretend I don't know what this garbage is all about but anyone with half a brain would know you can't grow a business when you continue to pay pay pay through the nose AND give it to someone who has no motivation to do crap with their life.
blame it on businesses who won't clean up their trash..................NM
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Obama wants to give small businesses tax relief not...sm
raise their taxes. He wants taxes raised on large corporations who are making record profits, paying their executives millions in salaries and perks per year. Also you will find that most companies offshore to countries where they pay pennies on the dollar to workers rather than pay Americans a living wage. These countries are happy not to charge them high taxes because those few pennies feed their people.
Not in time for Chrysler, its employees, downstream businesses
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So businesses can use foreign labor for their products and services? nm
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I dont WANT war. Dont judge me!
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With the stimulus package there are built in tax credits for small businesses and SBA...sm
I have worked in retail as an assistant buyer and see their profit margins...and I know there are many legit, honest, mom and pop stores, but they usually make up for it by hiring school kids for slave wages and also family members. I am talking about across the board, in factories, retail, hospitalitiy, techno, every sector, these workers would all be paying more EACH WEEK into the the tax stucture in this country, strengtheing our reserves, becomeing consumers themselves because they can finally afford something....I feel like I dropped from another planet here, or industry in MT is not the norm by far.
What dribble and so uninformed, he isn't taking money from small businesses, geez.
Common sense should tell you he is not saying he is taking the money from small business to give to the the middle class.
he is saying he wants to tax fairly the wealthy (businesses over 250,000) and probably take some of the loop holes away. Lower the middle class taxes (if there is one anymore) so we can breathe. Former statesmen have said it is dangerous to put all the money in so few hands, it develops corruption. Don't just read the headlines, read between, on top, in depth, etc. McCain jumped on that statement to win votes. He is wealthy, what makes you think he understands you? The reason our jobs are going overseas is the present adminstration has given all these corporations tax breaks to do so - saying it builds global democracy - it didn't work, it just made the corporations richer). i don't care who you vote for but Ms. Piggy would be better than McCain and dum, DE dum dum.
Yet we get on this board and moan and whine about not getting paid enough and companies are spening millions buying other transcription companies over our backs you think taxing them fairly is socialism.
I am through with this board, it is sad so many want 4 more years of the same. Keep working for pennies while benefits are taken from you, lines per are decreased. Do you think getting less for voice is fair when it takes almost the same amount of time to do it and make half? Do you think the company is taking that much of a hit? Yet they are forcing it so it most be a benefit to them. They are laughing all the way to the bank while you eat the feathers.
you dont even know me
Talk about generalizing. LOL. You dont know these posters, for pete sake. Most of us are extremists? Give me a break. What are you a radical neocon snooping on the liberal board trying to start trouble? Only someone wanting to start would make a statement like that.
Dont lie, that is all
What are you even posting about? A conservative got caught in a lie, which is not so uncommon..the lie was proven..PERIOD..Nothing more than that..I guess the lesson is, DONT LIE cause in this day and age, with print, email, bulletin boards, tapes, voice mail, you name it, you will be caught and then your credibility will be questioned.
so are u saying that you dont sin?
Wow, you are like the only perfect person in the whole world!
Dont believe God had anything to do with it.
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LOL! Dont you know? EVERYTHING is
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dont you have any
family or friends that you might think about for a while. The victors of the election hold no truck with you.
I dont see it that way, but then again, I am not
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I dont agree
I dont agree with the Supreme Idiot Court's decision on eminent domain, not at all..Such a wrong decision..However, I do feel when it comes to an adult woman, the decision over her body is hers and let her stand in judgment with her maker if the decision was wrong..I dont think a child has the right to an abortion without a parents consent, as painful as it will be to the child. I hope they do take the Supreme Court Justices property away and build a darn hotel..we need to fight back, now, as our rights are being slowly taken away.
A christian, hun?? I dont think so
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you dont know what you are talking about
A xtian republican understanding jewish situations? Oh please! When it comes to jews, you do not know what you are talking about.
Dont comment, please
A Xtian, if he/she does not want to look like a fool, should not comment on Israel.
dont blame me
Once again surmising about someone on a teeny weeny board. I would never do that, LOL. I would hope you are all good people with a different ideology, that is all, and hopefully one day we could understand each other a bit..but once again, attacking, on the liberal board no less. Please dont attack the messenger, figure out why it all happened and make sure those responsible are held to task. That is what Im trying to do, get the facts of it all. If the things I am posting seem to all be attacking Bush, these are articles in the last few days papers, many papers. They are the ones questioning what the heck is happening down on the gulf and, in turn, so am I. You dont know anything about me and what I do to help others..Politicizing a tragedy? No. Looking at why it happened and what America could have done to have made it not so bad, yes. That is something our govt has to do. Who is at fault. Not for the hurricane, of course, but the levees collapsing, the aid not getting to the unfortunate ones, the money that should have been given to New Orleans but went to war instead, even though Bush was still giving out tax breaks to *his class of people*, the super rich.
dont preach
Oh please, we also do not give sermons to other Americans how to act in a tragedy. I blame whomever is at the helm of the ship when tragedy strikes. I blame this administration for cuts in the federal money sent to states..I blame Bush for not knowing what the heck he is doing with this tragedy. Even officials of FEMA are speaking out about no aid coming New Orleans way, too little too late and thankfully the people will remember this next November when we vote. Please, do not try to tell others what we should and should not do. The disaster could have been averted, if they had the money to reinforce the levees..but no, that money had to go to Iraq so we could kill more people..Have you helped the victims yet? Well, I have..sniff..sniff..I smell a usual conservative poster to the liberal board using a different handle right now..is that you??
Dont let the door hit ya on the way out!
Well, sweetie pie, if this liberal posting on a liberal board is bothering you..why dont you just mosey on back to the conservative board and then I wont be disturbing you? No one is forcing you to come over here. The disturbing thing, however, is that I fight back and debate and will not let the neocon gang of three bully me. Maybe it bothers you that you have met your match and that quite a few liberals are standing up to your nonsense..Getting to ya, huh? Goooooooood..
I dont know who are you to insult
you. I certainly do not know your husband. I did not read your post, if you are referring to one, so if you take particular posts on a board as aimed solely at you, that is not my problem, but yours.
Yes! -and dont like to be mean, really, but "Barney"
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But YOU sure do, dont'cha?
gourdpainter? You dont think you are just as
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