Don't waste your breath. No one with a modicum of sense can honestly
Posted By: Libby on 2008-02-13
In Reply to: By the way - Taiga
believe these things. Some folks just like to stir the pot. Besides, look how the conservatives have cannibalized themselves in the elections past and have attempted to do so this year (claims in South Carolina of McCain being a traitor, etc.).
Some people will only ever see what they want to see. Unfortunately, they are victimized by those that play into their prejudices and fears.
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For me, I won't waste my breath saying anything to you, Sam, since you are always right!!!!!
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Don't waste your breath explaining it to them
They will only interpret everything you say as bashing. All logic is lost on some people.
I guess they know it is a waste of breath rehash...sm
the same old things over and over. I think most of the dems are probably on another board discussing real issues instead of some fantasy world. I see a pattern of poisonous pablum being fed and swallowed whole.
No, honestly it does not make grammatical sense
no it doesn't
Waste? (sm)
So, in this bill are provisions to improve education, rebuild and upgrade our energy grid, improve transportion and infrastructure that is sooo needed, lowers the cost of healthcare, and the list goes on and on. All of these things benefit future generations. My personal favorite project is research and development into alternative fuels. This will provide a completely new industry for future generations as well as reduce our dependency on foreign oil. In case you haven't noticed, current production of just about everything in the US is diminishing. Is that what we want to leave our kids?--- a dwindling country? Yeah, its expensive...very expensive. But the alternative is to do nothing, and that definately will not help future generations.
And you're an MT? Wow - what a waste of your
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You might as well not waste your time!
:D
I refuse to waste my
time reading biased, inaccurate opinions. Got a prob with that? Yours only.
Don't waste your time, JBB
Trying to reason with someone who has an imaginary sense of "reality" is an exercise in futility.
seriously, what a waste of time. NM
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Honestly?
I pray our country will not be sold out from under us. Sorry, but this election has me very worried. So many things to consider. About a year ago I would have voted for Obama. I have changed my mind three times since than. I watch all the news channels, jumping from one to another. I must say this drives my husband crazy. But, I feel if you view MSNBC, CNN, and Fox News, you might get some middle ground to work with. About six months ago, I started thinking 'where did the money come from for Obama'. I have four daughters who went to College, and we were middle class, and money was tight. We (including my girls) worked hard and there were lots of student loans. I started looking into Obama's life.
Around 1979 Obama started college at Occidental in California. He is very open about his two years at Occidental, he tried all kinds of drugs and was wasting his time but, even though he had a brilliant mind, did not apply himself to his studies. 'Barry' (that was the name he used all his life) during this time had two roommates, Muhammad Hasan Chandoo and Wahid Hamid, both from Pakistan. During the summer of 1981, after his second year in college, he made a 'round the world' trip. Stopping to see his mother in Indonesia, next Hyderabad in India, three weeks in Karachi, Pakistan where he stayed with his roommate's family, then off to Africa to visit his father's family. My question - Where did he get the money for this trip? Neither I, nor any one of my children would have had money for a trip like this when they where in college. When he came back he started school at Columbia University in New York. It is at this time he wants everyone to call him Barack - not Barry. Do you know what the tuition is at Columbia? It's not cheap! to say the least. Where did he get money for tuition? Student Loans? Maybe. After Columbia, he went to Chicago to work as a Community Organizer for $12,000. a year. Why Chicago? Why not New York? He was already living in New York.
By 'chance' he met Antoin 'Tony' Rezko, born in Aleppo Syria, and a real estate developer in Chicago. Rezko has been convicted of fraud and bribery this year. Rezko, was named 'Entrepreneur of the Decade' by the Arab-American Business and Professional Association'. About two years later, Obama entered Harvard Law School. Do you have any idea what tuition is for Harvard Law School? Where did he get the money for Law School? More student loans? After Law school, he went back to Chicago. Rezko offered him a job, which he turned down. But, he did take a job with Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Galland. Guess what? They represented 'Rezar' which Rezko's firm. Rezko was one of Obama's first major financial contributors when he ran for office in Chicago. In 20 03, Rezko threw an early fundraiser for Obama which Chicago Tribune reporter David Mendelland claims was instrumental in providing Obama with 'seed money' for his U.S. Senate race. In 2005, Obama purchased a new home in Kenwoood District of Chicago for $1.65 million (less than asking price). With ALL those Student Loans - Where did he get the money for the property? On the same day Rezko's wife, Rita, purchased the adjoining empty lot for full price. The London Times reported that Nadhmi Auchi, an Iraqi-born Billionaire loaned Rezko $3.5 million three weeks before Obama's new home was purchased. Obama met Nadhmi Auchi many times with Rezko.
Now, we have Obama running for President. Valerie Jarrett, was Michele Obama's boss. She is now Obama's chief advisor and he does not make any major decisions without talking to her first. Where was Jarrett born? Ready for this? Shiraz, Iran! Do we see a pattern here? Or am I going crazy?
On May 10, 2008 The Times reported, Robert Malley advisor to Obama was 'sacked' after the press found out he was having regular contacts with 'Hamas', which controls Gaza and is connected with Iran. This past week, buried in the back part of the papers, Iraqi newspapers reported that during Obama's visit to Iraq, he asked their leaders to do nothing about the war until after he is elected, and he will 'Take care of things'.
Oh, and by the way, remember the college roommates that where born in Pakistan? They are in charge of all those 'small' Internet campaign contribution for Obama. Where is that money coming from? The poor and middle class in this country? Or could it be from the Middle East?
And the final bit of news. On September 7, 2008, The Washington Times posted a verbal slip that was made on 'This Week' with George Stephanapoulos. Obama on talking about his religion said, 'My Muslim faith'. When questioned, 'he made a mistake'. Some mistake!
All of the above information I got on line. If you would like to check it - Wikipedia, encyclopedia, Barack Obama; Tony Rezko; Valerie Jarrett: Daily Times - Obama visited Pakistan in 1981; The Washington Times - September 7, 2008; The Times May 10, 2008.
Now the BIG question - If I found out all this information on my own, Why haven't all of our 'intelligent' members of the press been reporting this?
A phrase that keeps ringing in my ear - 'Beware of the enemy from within'!!!
Tell me you don't honestly believe that. How sad.
bulldinky
Honestly,
They feel no more entitled than pretty much any other person in this country. I actually like Bush's speech and Obama's as well. I didn't care for Lowery's one bit tho.
Honestly,
I was looking for someone that wasn't going to try to use smokescreens and magic tricks. I would like for the US to stop sending aid to other countries for awhile so that we can fix our own issues. We have families here in the US that are hungry but yet we send millions overseas without expectation of repayment. I would like a president that is not going to use his position as president to feel he has the right to invade other countries as Bush did with Iraq. We are not the fix all for every countries problems. I would like a president that is truly going to make our military the best in the world again. I would like the welfare systems fixed. I could go on and on but I have work to do. I truly do hope Obama can come up with new solutions to fix old problems this country has had. What we are going through now is nothing new, but past lessons have not been learned.
I honestly don't know what should be done.
First of all, I don't understand why they haven't been brought to trial yet - why can't they be tried in the Hague - isn't that supposed to be the neutral territory for that sort of thing?
I'm not saying that it's not the right thing to do, all I'm saying is that a lot of thought has to go into this because these people have a whole lot to gain by attacking America again. Think how highly they would be revered by their country if they survived Gitmo prison only to be released and succeed in attacking America! What the answer is, I don't know, but just to blindly say we're gonna close it down without any plan of how to actually do it just doesn't make sense to me.
Breath of fresh air
I'm new to these boards and I just have to let all of you know that your posts are a breath of fresh air to me. I'm being suffocated by rampant conservatism here in the buckle of the bible belt. So many of your sentiments echo my own, and it feels good to know that I'm not alone.
So now you are rationalizing...in the same breath...nm
But we don't actually GETthem until we take a breath?
Then what happens to that soul if the someone who was supposed to get doesn't make it past the knife?
Don't hold your breath. I think the
next 4 years is going to be a sink or swim economy, and I don't think many people or companies can swim anymore. Too many are at the end of the rope and about to drown.
I'm not holding my breath......sm
I'll believe Obama gives me a tax cut when it happens, as well as help out with my health insurance. Can't tell from his website how "exactly" that's going to happen. His website if filled with a whole lot of words that are meaningless to me. Sounds good, but I don't see a lot of substance there, just like when he was campaigning.
Not holding my breath, but I'll come back and tell you if either of those things happen.
Not a Republican even though I leaned towards McCain over Obama, since he's such an unknown (and still is), and I actually decided I couldn't vote for McCain either....so my vote went to neither of them.
Please... don't waste your key strokes on these people.
They only come here to incite, to insult, to spread their hatred and rage all over this board. It's physically impossible for them to stay on the Conservative board because they all agree, and they're not happy unless they can be vile and nasty and mean and stomp people into the ground, all the time wrapping themselves in the Bible and the flag. They have posted bait on the Conservative board, and when nobody bites, they migrate to the Liberal board to get their daily fixes of hate mongering. It must somehow make them feel like they have some power in their pitiful, mundane, unimportant, moronic little lives.
My suggestion is that we don't even read their posts. Let them see that their posts were read 0 times, with no replies. We are providing the fuel for their hatred every time we read or respond to one of their hateful posts.
They simply aren't worth the click of the mouse. 
Better than the waste products of your posting...
gutter level would elevate them. And to think that I annoy you...frankly makes my day. Thanks for sharing.
Responding to you is a waste of my time.
I do not waste my time responding to your political posts, and I will not waste my time arguing semantics with you. I would not associate with you in my personal life, and you are not worth my time and energy on this forum. I am afraid you will have to find someone else to listen to your nonsense.
dont waste your time on the
Federal Reserve Fox ploy . . . they are trying to make you lose the scent. Research Republican history of deregulation. Making the government so small they can drown it in the bathtub. Research McCain's countless statements of being pro-deregulation. Research the safeguards built into the system after the Great Depression and how they were dismantled by the republicans in the name of "free market forces."
Don't waste your energy trying to engage
I don't argue with brick walls.
It would be a waste of time to try to address
Do you folks never tire of being scared and scaring each other? There is bigotry and there is racism, both of which pervaded during this election cycle in the media and at pub rallies. To deny this is so is truly beyond ridiculous. Yours is a very small, dark world view, unfounded in reality and not worthy of further comment.
Waste of time and money!
Mailing hundreds, thousands, or hundreds of thousands of red envelopes is a waste of time and money. It is not going to have any effect on the abortion law, and the only winner is the post office. Can't you people think of more constructive ways to support a cause?
While I'm sure Mrs. Bridger will waste more oxygen
in feeling she must respond to this post, Obama has thumbed his nose at this country. Common sense is obviously something he was NOT born with, as well as many other O lovers who are obviously so depleted of oxygen, they are following him like little lost sheep to the slaughter. Saving thousands of Americans isn't his top priority; you'll see that more and more as time goes on. He's so busy playing buddy buddy with countries that will NEVER be a buddy to the U.S.,he has forgotten what his job really is, to look out for us first, not worry about befriending (what a joke that is) every terrorist leader out there.
Waste of time, postage, and tea!
Don't you people have anything more important to do with your time and energy? Go volunteer to help those less fortunate than yourselves. You might even get some self-esteem out of it.
Stop. Don't waste your energy.
victim mentality they probably couldn't escape it even if they wanted to. They cannot separate the truth from the propaganda they have been fed. If they think the report pertains to them, perhaps they are really rightwing extremists.
Sure, it is not a waste to acquire any skill
and I think being able to speak more than one language is a good thing. However, why is it that we must become bilingual in our own country to accommodate people who will not become bilingual when they move to our country?
Are you honestly that stupid
that you can't tell the difference between someone hoping someone burns in hell AFTER they die (having had nothing to do with their death) and openly and publicly encouraging America to ASSASSINATE the leader of a country?
Are you really that much of a moron, and as Gadfly said, why in the world do you WANT to openly reveal that to others? Some of you people need some SERIOUS professional help.
I have to say, honestly, I am just not interested.
That is my true feeling on the matter. I am absolutely zero vested in conspiracy theories or ascribing blame. Blame will not bring back anyone and at the same time, I feel there was a long long line of failures leading up to 9/11 that started way before President Bush and continued through many presidencies. I hope, no matter what, in the end they can have peace of mind. I am sure it has to be hard for them.
I'm honestly not sure what was inapproprite
sorry!
Honestly, how can you overlook this? Where were you when they were (sm)
passing out brains? Or did yours just get washed by Obama?
I just watched this. Can honestly say it was
nm
honestly i don't care
where the questions came from. if you have nothing to hide, why not ANSWER THE QUESTION?
Honestly, as our system is now, there is no
reason for anyone to be homeless. Before you tell me, I understand about mental illness and all, and, perhaps, those people are not making a choice, but anyone without enough money to afford a home can get one through our current welfare system--they must only ask.
Honestly wondering
I didn't vote for O, but I think he wants to be a honest, decent president. What I'm wondering is, what is all this hoopla doing to his ego? Who wouldn't be swayed by the fawning, adoring fans, the coronation-like atmosphere in the media and the comparisons to Martin Luther King and Lincoln? How can this NOT give him an inflated sense of self-importance?
So, I'm wondering, when it comes time for him to enter the White House, is his head going to be too big to fit through the door?
He has a serious and important job to do. I wish this day would be treated with the importance it deserves, but not with the carnival atmosphere I've seen displayed.
Honestly, Shelly.
You and I almost never see eye to eye on issues (except I agree 100% with your above comment about filibuster) and sometimes the content of sources you post drive me up a wall, but I've been reading your posts long enough to know that you do not typically get nasty and personal and, for the most part, you try to keep yourself out of the attack mode. At least you do a better job of than than I do.
I guess I'm just feeling old, tired, scared and a little sad. Old enough to remember when the country was not so divided. Tired of feeling like I have to be on the defensive all the time and not being able to talk issues instead of constantly having to wade through a mine field of slams and insults when expressing an opposing view. Scared of getting back on the job market after 6 months of unemployment. Sad because I'm missing the good ole days, which I know deep down in my soul will never be coming back.
I forgot frustrated. Frustrated that I find myself full of sarcasm and anger, sometimes for reasons I cannot even understand myself. I've been active in politics since 1966. More than anything, I love a good healthy debate aimed at exchanging differing points of view and oriented toward common ground and goal-setting, destined toward workable solutions. I used to know how to do that and do it well. Now I'm not so sure I will ever regain that part of myself and I really, really miss that one simple pleasure. Any suggestions?
Honestly, it's all about power
for the democrats in office, in my opinion. They want people to depend on the government so they have more power. That's what should scare the heck out of all of us much more than if they are helping someone in need or not.
I agree Obama is a breath
of fresh air and I love that he inspires people. However, I would encourage all Democrats, Independents, et al, to consider Governor Bill Richardson of New Mexico. On the Democratic side, he has by far the best resume. He is a superior negotiator, served as head of the Department of Energy, sat at the UN, was an ambassador. Here is a link to his web site. It is quite lengthy, but you can scan over it and just look at the positions he has held and the things he has done.
http://www.governor.state.nm.us/governor.php
I wouldn't hold my breath. n/m
You are also a breath of fresh air. Agree 100%.
that kind of respectful standing in the world will be taken on November 4th and we will begin that journey in earnest the day after Obama's inauguration. You can take that to the bank.
I wouldn't hold my breath.
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the world is holding their breath
After 9/11 would the United States really elect a black man named Barack Hussein Obama?
You are wasting your breath on these pathetic
people. They have no life, or such miserable lives that they have all the time in the world to scour the Internet for more garbage to spout, so now this is what consumes their lives. How sad -- NOT! The people have spoken. If you're not happy with the outcome, then MOVE OUT OF THE COUNTRY. Maybe you can start a revolution somewhere else.
Don't hold your breath waiting.
He already said that he can't do everything at once. "It may take a year, it may take 2 years, it may even take the first term to do it all, but it will be done".
You're wasting your breath
The word Palin sends them into attack mode.
I wouldn't hold your breath
He has no plans whatsoever to bring the troops home in 60-90 days. He is already saying they need to stay another 5 years. Not to mention all the other dangerous areas he plans to send them too once out of Iraq. Then once he gets the Civilian National Security up and running and the kids in college, etc trained they can be diverted too. Maybe he'll bring home the troops for a short LOA (leave of absence), but they will go right back.
Why do people think he needs to be president to break promises. He's already making decisions and he already has broken promises he made on his campaign trail (just to get the votes).
Broken promise #1. I will bring the troops home. - He's already said they will be there for at least the next five years. I read another article that said it won't happen until 2011, and that is from an agreement that Bush signed. So in 2011 even then Obama will not have brought them home, it will be because of Bush. If people had their minds and eyes open during the campaign they would have seen this as a clear trick to get the people to vote for him).
Broken promise 2. I will tax the rich. - He now is coming out and saying he will not tax the rich.
Broken promise 3. I will bring change to Washington. - And just how is he suppose to do that when his entire cabinet is being filled with old Clintonians. People are sick of the Bush's and Clinton's and he goes and drags back these #$%(* we were so happy to get rid of.
Broken promise 4. I will not have lobbyists in my administration. - Uh hellooooooo. There are at least 15 people in his cabinet who are lobbyists.
So, there are just 4 of his campaign promises he has broken. Has has picked his cabinet, and revealed his (no taxes for the rich) plan already and also the fact that he is not going to be bringing the troops home. Seeing as this is on camera and in writing you can say that he has broken his promises. Unless for some reason you think that on the day of his inaugeration he's going to tell all these people that he picked for his cabinet that it was only a joke and instead he's going to hire more capable people.
People are really questioning his ability to lead (and this is in other countries too), which clearly by his choices and decisions he has already made he is showing that he cannot. I just thank god Biden is in there.
Most bigots deny it til their last breath. I think that they really don't know
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