Doesn't offend me at all

• Using the phrase "drinking Kool-Aid" - Myrtle
  • kool aid - jane
  • You're kidding me.....right? - sm
  • Christians? - shelly
    • Christianity is not a cult? - sm
      • Sorry but it is - I just gotta be me
      • Consulting Webster's Dictionary online........... sm - m
        • Um, did you look up Webster's - definition of cult?
        • Definition of cult - Myrtle
          • Ahhh.... But.................. sm - m
            • Yes, but pears and apples are both fruit! - Myrtle
          • EXACTLY - ??
            • Honey, no one is saying the words Christian - and cult are
              • Doesn't offend me at all - ??
                • Whoa! No one said all cults are - Christian.
              • Choosing 1 word out of a definition........... sm - m
                • Not one word. One defitinion of a word. - sm
            • You coffee-drinking cultist, you! sm - m
            • A little touchy, aren't we? - Myrtle
              • What? - ??
                • Religion, by definition, is a cult. - Myrtle
  • You can try to guilt..... - sm
  • That's about as good as.... - JMO
    • Common Decency - Myrtle
      • So I guess your okay with insulting special needs people - JMO
        • That's what I figured - JMO
      • You assume a lack of compassion.... - sm
  • Christians? - geez
    • Most had their children taken... - sm
  • They killed themselves! - umm
    • I agree with Myrtle - Gladys
      • This has nothing to do with - what?
    • Exactly! Good Lord.. It is terribly sad. - but were brainwashed sheep...as is going on now.nm

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People who use God to lie and twist things to their liking are the people who offend me.

The purpose of the site you posted is to bring people to Jesus Christ.  There is certainly nothing wrong with that.

What IS wrong, however, is that the people they list as being *athiests* are people who don't follow their personal religious beliefs, and they are therefore *judged* to be athiests.  This doesn't make it true.  I asked you for facts.  You haven't provided any.  All you provided was slander.

If anything, Phil Donahue respects God more than anyone on this laughable *athiest* site.  Phil Donahue has always taken to task those who feel their God is *better* than anyone else's, always pushed the envelope with the most radical and least credible of the religious fanatics who claim to have an *inside track* to God that nobody else has.  He's asked these so-called Christians if Jews are privileged to go to heaven to their way of thinking, or people of other religions.  Phil Donahue has exposed these people as being totally UN-Jesuslike in their hatred and condemnation of groups of society.  Phil Donahue BELIEVES in freedom of religion for everyone and doesn't buy into spiritual superiority. 

THAT'S why you don't like him.  Trying to pass off this ridiculously slanderous site as being authentic shows who truly is uninformed on this board.

As I said, I am a normal woman, have three children, six grandchildren, and a husband who is a blue-collar worker.  As for stupid, this VP choice of McCain's is stupid.  Seriously, she has no credentials for being the leader of the USA in a time of war, in a time of major economical challenges.  Governor of Alaska?....mayor of a small town?....that's it?....  Why aren't you VP?  I am sure you have as much knowledge as she does.  She said she doesn't know anything about Iraq, although her son is going there, and said she doesn't know what a VP does.... Honestly, if I was governor of any state, I would not even ask "what does a VP do?"  I would go find out for myself.  Any drive to do her own investigating?  Any curiosity?  Do you seriously think she could be President of the US if something happens to John McCain?  America has far too many problems to gamble on a way too outside chance. 

As for Obama's arrogance, that is something you heard and repeat like a mina bird.  Guess what?  There is arrogance in every one of these politicians, otherwise they would not be in the public eye.  I am constantly amazed at the stupidity of the American people, yes I am, and if that is arrogance, so be it.

As for Obama being arrogant, that is something YOU heard and repeat.

In a story that appeared in the Times on the morning of Sept. 11, 2001, Ayers told a reporter while promoting his memoir "Fugitive Days": "I don't regret setting bombs...I feel we didn't do enough."

After all, most employees can be fired at will so why not the politicians?  Aren't they suppose to work for the people.

VOTING A WRITE-IN VOTE FOR LOU DOBBS.

with the fact that Israel is really Arab land?  How about the idea that Israel didn't even exist as a nation until established by a third party.  How about the fact that Israel has been cutting off supplies from Gaza?  (That would include food, medicine, etc)  I don't know about you, but I tend to get a little testy when my kids don't have food.  How about the fact that the US consistently manipulates people in that region (putting in leaders the US wants, only to take them out again when its convenient), and yet when it comes to Israel, the US has given them money and sofisticated weapons to fight against homemade rockets.  How about the idea that when Iran invaded Iraq the US was all over it, but when Israel does the same thing to Gaza we just give them a green light and ignore the civilian death toll.  How about the idea that oftentimes the US has backed both sides of a war, playing each for what it can get?  Oh, by the way, Israel is not the only democracy over there.  You don't think any of this has anything to do with it?

And if you really want to bring religion into it, how about that all important commandment about *thou shalt not kill?*

with the fact that Israel is really Arab land?  How about the idea that Israel didn't even exist as a nation until established by a third party.  How about the fact that Israel has been cutting off supplies from Gaza?  (That would include food, medicine, etc)  I don't know about you, but I tend to get a little testy when my kids don't have food.  How about the fact that the US consistently manipulates people in that region (putting in leaders the US wants, only to take them out again when its convenient), and yet when it comes to Israel, the US has given them money and sofisticated weapons to fight against homemade rockets.  How about the idea that when Iran invaded Iraq the US was all over it, but when Israel does the same thing to Gaza we just give them a green light and ignore the civilian death toll.  How about the idea that oftentimes the US has backed both sides of a war, playing each for what it can get?  Oh, by the way, Israel is not the only democracy over there.  You don't think any of this has anything to do with it?

And if you really want to bring religion into it, how about that all important commandment about *thou shalt not kill?*

Have you noticed how palestinian land keeps getting smaller and smaller?  Is that because the land is shrinking or because Israel is greedy?

that Bush started out with a surplus and created this huge deficit?  Please....raise your hands if you don't know that because for some reason people continue to think that we DON'T KNOW THIS INFORMATION AND CONTINUE TO POST IT.  Holy friggin cow.....WE KNOW ALREADY.

I can't  change what Bush did.  I wish I could.....but I can't.  All I can do is watch what our government and our CURRENT president is doing now.  Your arguments about Bush creating this deficit doesn't do squat for me when Obama wants to add to this deficit by continued government spending.  President Obama is more concerned about his agenda for creating bigger government than he is cuttin this deficit.  He can't do it.  Sending troops into Afghan......doubling the deficit in just one month's time since he took office.  Some of you people are more concerned about making us all know Bush ran up this deficit (WHICH WE KNOW, BTW) and refuse to see what Obama is doing........spending spending spending spending spending.  You can't buy your way out of debt.  That is like getting one loan to pay another one off or paying one credit card bill with another credit card......it is just plain STUPID STUPID STUPID. 

So please....stop with the.....well Bush created this deficit.....WE KNOW THAT ALREADY.  Now we have to focus on our president now and watch what he is doing.  I'm p!ssed at both pubs and dems.  I'm all for what Chuck Norris said on Glenn Beck last night.....he wants to line up all the unhonest politicians and choke them until they are unconscious.....that includes pubs and dems.  They are all liars.  they are all out for their own agenda.  They care more about their pockets being filled with money and their "pet projects" they keep stuffing into these spending bills.  INSANITY!!!!  To he!! with both parties.  I truly hope that come election time we have an independent that I can believe in because I certainly will not vote for either party.  Screw them both.  If we vote them all out, maybe they will realize how mad we are and that we aren't going to take it.

Instead......all we can talk about is how this is all Bush's fault.  LOL.  Seriously....we all know what Bush did.  Now let's focus on the current president and see what he plans on doing and whether it will help or not.  Right now.....spending money we don't have isn't the answer.  STOP GOVERNMENT SPENDING!!!!

If Cindy Sheehan had the right to spew her feelings Army Mom has that right too.  Works both ways as bad as you HATE it...

All he does is sign them all with a Presidential statement changing whatever he doesn't like about the law when he signs it, just like he did with the McCain torture bill.  He signed it but amended it to add that he still reserves the right to torture.

He does what he wants, couldn't care less about Congress or Americans.

June 06, 2006 Lieutenant defies Army over ‘illegal’ war By William Cole The Honolulu Advertiser In one of the first known cases of its kind, an Army officer from Honolulu is expected to refuse to go to Iraq this month with his unit, citing what he calls the “illegal” and “immoral” basis of the war, his father confirmed. The officer, 1st Lt. Ehren K. Watada, 28, son of former state campaign spending commission executive director Bob Watada, is believed to be one of the first military officers to publicly take steps to refuse his deployment orders. “My son has a great deal of courage, and clearly understands what is right, and what is wrong,” Bob Watada said yesterday. “He’s choosing to do the right thing, which is a hard course.” Watada declined further comment until a news conference planned for 11 a.m. tomorrow at the state Capitol. His son is with a Stryker unit out of Fort Lewis, Wash., and is expected to participate by teleconference. Jeff Paterson, a former Kaneohe Bay Marine who refused to board a transport in 1990 heading to the Gulf War and now works as an anti-war activist with the organization Not In Our Name, said a second news conference will be held in Tacoma, Wash. On a Web site Paterson said was created by friends and family, the “Lt.” is quoted as saying: “I refuse to be silent any longer. I refuse to watch families torn apart, while the President tells us to ‘stay the course.’ ... I refuse to be party to an illegal and immoral war against people who did nothing to deserve our aggression. I wanted to be there for my fellow troops. But the best way was not to help drop artillery and cause more death and destruction. It is to help oppose this war and end it so that all soldiers can come home.” Ehren Watada apparently sought in January to resign his commission, and later asked again and was denied. Watada, who is not seeking conscientious objector status, but rather has moral objections to the Iraq war, faces the possibility of a court-martial, dishonorable discharge and several years in prison if he refuses the war orders. According to the GI Rights Hotline, a conscientious objector has a deeply held moral, ethical or religious belief that it is wrong to kill another human being in war. Some service members discover that opposition after joining the military, and are discharged, the organization said. Watada doesn’t qualify as a conscientious objector because he does not oppose all wars. Watada graduated from Hawaii Pacific University in 2003, joined the Army shortly after, went to Officer Candidate School, and incurred a three-year obligation. The Hawaii man is with the 5th Battalion, 20th Infantry, at Fort Lewis. The unit is part of a larger 3,600-soldier Stryker brigade combat team similar to a unit being developed in Hawaii with about 300 eight-wheeled armored vehicles. The Fort Lewis brigade is heading to Mosul in northern Iraq, and the soldiers are expected to leave this month and into July. At a farewell ceremony on Friday, I Corps and Fort Lewis commander Lt. Gen. James Dubik, a former Schofield Barracks commander, said that of 299 million people in the United States, only 2.3 million serve in uniform to defend the nation, the Olympian newspaper reported. “Less than 1 percent of the nation is carrying 100 percent of the burden of this war,” Dubik said. But in a sign of increased opposition to the three-year-old Iraq war, anti-war activists demonstrated at the Port of Olympia after Stryker vehicles drove there for shipment, the Olympian reported. Police used pepper spray on about 100 activists, and 22 people were arrested in one of the more volatile confrontations, the newspaper said. Paterson, 38, who in 1990 alleged that the Gulf War was about profits and oil in the Middle East and sat down on the tarmac at Kaneohe Bay instead of boarding a transport, said he’s not sure of the number of Iraq or Afghanistan war objectors. Cases that resulted in court-martial include a Navy sailor sentenced to three months of hard labor for refusing to board a ship headed to the Persian Gulf, a specialist in the National Guard given 120 days in a stand against fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan, and a soldier sentenced to 15 months for refusing to deploy to Iraq a second time. Robert Arakaki, the 83-year-old president of the 100th Infantry Battalion Veterans group, who saw combat in Italy in 1945, yesterday said Watada “owes the country a lot.” There “should be some kind of good explanation” for why Watada wants out, he said, and Arakaki takes issue with claims of an immoral and illegal war. “Who determines what is legal or illegal? Him or our government? Not him,” Arakaki said. Retired Navy Cmdr. Jack Miller, past president of the Hawaii chapter of the Military Officers Association of America, said “there’s always been the problem of following orders. This time is no different.” “Being a Vietnam veteran, we went through this,” said Miller, 72. “The rest of the load had to be shared by those willing to follow orders and serve their country.” Dependable, loyal officers are needed, and “if one doesn’t fit that qualification, a bad apple will contaminate the barrel. He (Watada) should be punished in some way,” Miller said. “You don’t want someone over there in Iraq who’s not going to willingly follow orders. That’s dangerous.” Back to top Copyright © 2006 Use of this site signifies your agreement to the Terms of Service.

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