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Doesn't hide behind fakery? You are kidding, right?sm

Posted By: LVMT on 2006-07-19
In Reply to: He's real. He is who is he is and he doesn't hide behind fakery. sm - MT

I am surprised lightning has not struck the man for all his lying, never mind all the blood on his hands.


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He's real. He is who is he is and he doesn't hide behind fakery. sm
I respect him for that.  Harry Truman was not polished either.  Neither as Lyndon Johnson.  It's just not a big deal right now.
Do ya think lithium would help here? (only kidding, doesn't make sense, but this is Capitol Hill
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People with nothing to hide, hide nothing!
One of my favorite quotes!
Why is it sad? What do you have to hide? nm

I don't have anything to hide, do you?
I could care less if the government opens my mail (which they have been doing for years and long before 9/11 BTW), my emails or listens to my phone conversations.  I have nothing to hide.  You also are not allowed to send contraband in the mail.  It's a federal offense and always has been.  If one were speaking to terrorists and live in this country one should be brought up on charges of aiding and abetting the enemy and for being a traitor to this country.
I have nothing to hide. If this is

actually going on, they would quickly realize that I'm no threat.  The worst they could get me for is gossiping.


No need to run and hide from
What I heard Obama reiterate his consistent policy to Joe the unlicensed. In the absence of a link, not too sure I heard that "below Joe" phrase from Obama, but I am assuming you are referring to income levels. Apparently, you did not hear me say that progressive tax structure has been in place for as long as I can remember and that giving tax cuts and tax credits, allowing tax cuts to expire, adjusting tax rate, adding and subtracting deductions, opening and closing loopholes revising categories of tax burden to be benefit or detriement of any given class (i.e, shrubs's tax cuts to the rich that redistributed tax burden "downward" onto the middle class) is nothing new under the sun and is actually very, very American.

You obviously do not understand (or at least, have a selective understanding of) socialism. Palin's "collective ownership of resources" skips that bump in the road all together and smack of communism...straight up, as does government ownership of banks and lending institutions along with government buy-outs of privately owned properties such as homes, as proposed by McCain. If Obama is a socialist, so is McCain, so is Palin and so is the shrub....unless of course, you would have us believe that as long as the bucks are directed upward to a ruling elite class (as was the case in the Soviet Union) and left to trickle down across the land does not qualify as redistribution of wealth.

Get over yourself. Palin and McCain have busted their own slur campaign just by opening their mouths. It does not matter to me whether or not you understand basic economics...what matters to me is how this folly is playing out on the campaign trail with the undecided and independent voters.

I think if they had tried to hide it...(sm)
it would have been 10 times worse. -- that would also be true if we were talking about dems in that position.  Having said that, since Palin advocates abstinence and safe sex (as do the dems), the position her daughter is in only proves that this approach does not always work.  I don't fault Palin or her daughter for the pregnancy, but I do fault the republican party for putting her up there as an example.  It just sends a mixed message.  I just think it was a bad choice.
NY'ers would never run and hide
I am a born and bred New Yorker and you bet we would stand and fight.  New Yorkers are quite a tough bunch.  You must never have met a New Yorker cause you would not question whether they would stand and fight.  And if you are a Brooklynite, LOL, you are even tougher.
The only one who would worry about it is the one who has something to hide. sm
I could care less.  I won't answer in this thread anymore. 
Run and hide from this can of worms
You think you can dismiss W administration boondoggle on this by pointing a finger at 2 people? Cooked books do not even qualify as the tip of the iceberg on this issue. I will not be going to chat rooms and biased resources to analyze this one. It is HUGE and frightening in terms of just how close the country is to total economic collapse. Whether you realize it or not, this crisis has global consequences in overseas markets. We will not be the only ones mopping up and ultimately a global solution will need to come into play.

In any case, this subject deserves more than just a casual flippant dismissal, is quite complicated and requires objective and in-depth analysis before concluding who is responsible and, more importantly, what can be done in terms of policy and legislation to prevent it from happening in the future. Most definitively, of paramount importance will be the "R" word that sends chills down the spine of W's flock…regulation of the mortgage/banking lending practices. W is positively allergic to that idea, and McCain's policy on that is exactly what now? At least Obama had already addressed this issue in his platform and is currently making an effort to "study" the situation further before issuing any further statement on it. I appreciate that in a leader, especially when it comes to a crisis of such magnitude.

Your Enron analogy is delusional. Enjoy while you can and just wait for the real underlying issues to reach the light of day. Like I said before, this feminist flap is a featherweight distraction from critical problems our nation is facing, but then again, I would expect nothing less from the JM/SP camp.
He can't hide the fact

that he cheated on his first wife many times before he met Cindy McCain and left his wife for her.  I also have a good friend who as a former fighter pilot actually knew John McCain.  He saw the philandering first-hand and has a very low opinion of him.  And he is a conservative republican. 


Probably because you hide behind your anonymous
daily moniker. You won't tell anyone what you do, who you are, or what your husband does.

The previous poster did, and I applaud her and her husband for all their hard work and dedication, and community involvement.


Sounds like someone I'd like to call a friend.


I have nothing to hide either - but don't want them listening to me - nm
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How do you know Obama has nothing to hide? sm
I get no real pleasure with my gut feelings on this man. He was a complete unknown except for his past associations which he completely denied and threw to the curb when needed. It is a fact that he has put under lock and key, important documents that reveal his character. What you have seen play out in the media, is what they want you to see.

Everyone has a past. Hopefully, Obama can rise above it and prove himself to be an honorable leader. But some of his choices show his lack of character, and only time will tell who the real man is, who will become our next president shortly.







I myself think she was trying to hide it as long as she could -
the night she was first brought out, her daughter held the other baby in front of her all the time with an old blanket draped across her front. At the time, I kept wondering, why she would do that, and now I believe she was trying to hide her stomach from view that night.
O will fold and hide
behind Michelle's ample skirt. He has neither the experience or the guts to do what is needed. We will be run into the ground under and trampled over under O.
Yep, she could not hide her bias.
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Hide and watch. Isn't that what our very own

do, hide and watch right before they pull the trigger like they did with Dr. Tiller in a church no less?  When it is Obama that is their next victim that they have been **hiding and watching**, I can't wait to see the explanations for that from the hiders and watchers on this very own board.


Ayers doesn't regret the bombings, doesn't feel like they did enough sm

In a story that appeared in the Times on the morning of Sept. 11, 2001, Ayers told a reporter while promoting his memoir "Fugitive Days": "I don't regret setting bombs...I feel we didn't do enough."


Mr. Ayers, now a professor of education in Chicago, was a founder of the Weather Underground, which bombed government buildings in the early 1970s. He was indicted on conspiracy charges that were thrown out for prosecutorial misconduct.


He served with Mr. Obama on the board of the Woods Fund of Chicago, a charitable organization, and, along with his wife, the former Weather Underground member Bernardine Dohrn, hosted Mr. Obama at his home in 1995 when he was running for state office.


Mr. Obama has called Mr. Ayers "somebody who engaged in detestable acts 40 years ago, when I was 8 years old."...so because it was 40 years ago, and Ayers is still proud of what he did, how is it justifiable for a US presidential candidate to now be friends with this man?  Unless he has the same view of America.


Limberger lies and tries to hide it, LOL
Biggest bunch of bunk?  Limberger stated terrible things about Sheehan, ranting and raving.  Then when he is called on it, he has it disappear from his website and states he never said any of it.  Yet, the proof is in the pudding.  Limberger is a liar, as are quite a few of the prominent radical right wing neocons, including the warmonger chickenhawk in the WH.  The proof is there, the words were spoken by the druggie.  So there is no reason to get all huffy and puffy, you have nothing to defend.  Thank goodness for the written word and videos.  Limberger..phew, he stinks.
Party all you want. Then go hide your money from
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Oooooo...let's all hide under the bed till he's gone! (nm)
You right-wingers are some wacky folks! I can't help but laugh at some of your posts.
Yes, any money you have left, hide it!. Otherwise,
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be grateful you have money to hide
so stingy and hateful
No instead they hide behind woman and children
In their own country. Not in boats.

I wish the people reporting this on the news would not be so iggy.
This is a lie. They live in Gaza. They don't hide there.
They were democratically elected into power, defeating the Fatah party, which retains its majority in the West Bank, but Hamas has won elections there, too.

The majority of the people in Gaza live in the squalor of refugee camps under the iron fist of their hostile occupiers who imposed an apartheid police state and enforce blockades of basic supplies such as food, medicine and MONEY. This strangles their economy and starves their people. Israel was supposed to lift the blockade as part of the cease fire conditions. They have had since June to do this and by the time the cease fire expired on December 19th, they had not done so and had no intention of doing so. THAT is why the cease fire did not hold. Surprise, surprise. More lies and broken promises from Israel, only these particular lies are creating deadly and fatal conditions for the entire population in Gaza. Can you say genocide? It's a war of attrition at the hands of Israel and sanctioned by the United States.

They do not hide behind women and children. The population in Gaza supports the resistance to the blockade, since they and their children are the ones who are being slowly starved to death. That's why they elected Hamas. An occupied population which has been invaded repeatedly, blockaded, has the highest unemployment rate in the world (Gaza at 45%), has no medical supplies and is on the verge of starvation tend to arm themselves and band together against their common enemy. It's human nature to do so. This is not about anything more than simple survival for them.
Actually, I was TRYING to hide from Rush; impossible because...sm
like a very bad itchy rash, or the smell of cow manure, he is EVERYWHERE, even to ignorant dems/independents who (OH MY GOD) get all the nes channels, C-SPAN, that the special Republicans can. You know, it is ironic that Rush could be a lying, hypocritical pill-popper addict AND still be the messiah of the Republican Right. Were he a Dem or Independent, there is NO WAY that stuff would have EVER been forgotten/forgiven, no way. Just because we are not listening to the rantings of a hypocritical, press-hunting, pompous, loud, obnoxious BS'er like Rush does not mean we "don't get the real news"....on the contrary, I think it shows we do, and we can read between the lines and interpret with intelligence. JMHO, putting on my flame-retardant suit.
And that's NO JOKE! Hide and watch! Exactly what
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If it's high you flash it, if it's low you hide it.....sm
like everything else, isn't it?
You hide BEHIND race...that is your obsession with O
And, yes, admit it, you didn't have a clue about MLK, as many that repeat his words don't know, or they would rethink the Obama thing....

You do NOT know what he stood for, you just repeat stuff he has said and that is all. Do you know how he felt about dems? No, you don't.... how he detested them? no, you don't, do your homework and stop trying to twist things around...

For you and especially the loud mouth ranting earlier, race is THE issue...so why is it you don't mind spewing it out but you just can't take the truth thrown back at ya?! I suspect you should get over it as you put it...


Yeah, trying to hide Obama's answer, which is the
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people who hide behind God for bad manners and stupidity irk me
NM
I won't hide! It's kinda hard to give
posts any merit when the writer won't come forward. I don't like getting slammed, but what the heck--guess I deserve it sometimes.
Easy way for racists to hide their truths as well
Sure seems an easy way out to say that "oh! everytime I say something about Obama people say its racism, but it's not!" What a copy out and easy way to try to hide your racism.
You actually dont hide your sins welll either.....
You continuously judge people.  How about just pray for them instead.  Say that your opinion differs, and you have not felt first hand what they or their families have gone through, but you will pray for them to be okay and be right themselves with God.  You don't know their relationship with God, their struggles or anything else, just as we don't know yours.  I will pray for you though.
Let me rephrase that. It doesn't *seem like* my vote doesn't count...sm
It does not count because its in the bag that our 3 electoral votes will go to the republican party.
I think Jesse Jackson's probem is that Obama is not trying to hide the problems - see message
He is not trying to hide the problems in the black community - like his speech about father's needing to stand up and become involved in their children's lives - not just "bear the fruit" and leave it to rot... Most black people want their problems kept quiet and they will take care of it themselves. Also if there is a problem in the black community, they want to take care of it themselves and not broadcast it for the world to become aware (like they do not already know). As long as there is not a prominent black figure calling attention to their problems, they don't have to recognize them.

It is the same with Bill Cosby. The black community does not like it that he calls attention through the media to the problems. If he were just working behind the scenes quietly, it would be okay.

Understand, I am not prejudiced against black people - very involved with black people and therefore know some of how they think - agree with some of it and disagree with some of it.
Are you kidding? (sm)
He never had any cheese on his cracker! All that clown needs is a room with mirrored walls and he'd be happy!
Who are YOU kidding?

You don't want to interrupt our so-called "Bush hate-fest with facts"????


Number one, you THRIVE on this.  You thrive on spouting your drivel, fighting and spreading your venom.  You need it like a fish needs water.  You can't survive unless you spread your evil hatefulnes all over this board.  You're not satisfied with a respectful, reasonable debate.  You're not happy unless you're personally stomping someone who disagrees with you into the ground.


Number two, the entire issue involved with this thread IS "FACTS."  An increasing number of Americans want to know what the truth is, and they're bright enough to realize they've been fed a bunch of lies by the idiot in the White House.  You people are so adverse to the truth, you wouldn't be able to identify a fact if it hit you between the eyes. 


I realize that you're energized and over the fact that you've got a fight going here.


You have no compelling point of view.  All you know how to do is insult and call people names.  You don't have the ability to intelligently debate any issue.  You're nothing more than message board thugs.  I personally am very uncomfortable stooping that low, and from now on, I refuse to read and/or respond to any of your posts, and I would urge the thoughtful, respectful, intelligent people who frequent this board to do the same and NOT give you the conflict that you thrive on. 


Take it back to the cesspool you call home:  The Conservative Board.  Isn't that what you've repeatedly promised to do, anyway, LEAVE??  Once again, your word has just as much value and credibility as Bush's.  It's easy to see why you worship him.  You share the same "values."


I don't know that it was kidding, but it's quite different.
But I'm sure you knew that.  I could take the time to explain how these are two very different threats/comments from a legal as well as common sense standpoint but it it would fall on deaf ears.  Not playing this game with you anymore.  If you want to pretend to be ignorant, go ahead.  Just not sure why you'd want to do it in public.
You ARE kidding, right?
You never heard of TRAVELGATE?!!!!!?   Oh, well, people's lives were only ruined.  People who had worked in the travel office under many different administrations.   You know, people like you and me, just average Joes.  Until Clinton cronyism ruined their lives.  Gosh, how come you people don't know this stuff?  That's really amazing.  And disturbing.
You have got to be kidding, right?

Those comments the other night weren't particularly disturbing.  They were a bit crass at times, and the John Willkes Booth comment was a bit coarse and probably a bit over the top.....but overall they were quite amusing.  I even saved one posting because it was HILARIOUS.  Okay, probably not hilarious to the conservative board, I do realize that.  But after watching these dreadful playground bullies beat up on everyone on that board that didn't spew their propaganda there was some sort of justice in those posts that appeared.  Sort of a karmic get-even thing.  I am so glad that I got to read all of them that particular evening.


Reading the other board is kind of like passing a gruesome car accident.  You don't want to look, but yet you can't resist.....and you never know how awful it's going to be.  Human nature, I guess.


Your kidding right...??...sm
While this is not at the top of my list, a sitting president who was not elected by the people is nothing to say 'oh well' about.

I have always favored the popular vote over electorial votes. All electronic so swinging chads are not an issue.
You got to be kidding.
All day and night long, Bush used it as a political statement, beginning with Cheney and Rice on the Sunday talk show circuit and ending with a neocon made for TV movie that tried to pin the blame for 9/11 on Clinton.
Are you kidding?
213,000 refugees in 2004 and 801,000 in 2005 - I guess all this liberty/democracy/newfound security is just too much for some Iraqis, so they have to leave their country. ???????????????


Baghdad Empties as Residents Flee to Safety
Major Exodus Sends Hundreds of Thousands of Iraqis to Jordan, Syria
By JIM SCIUTTO

BAGHDAD, Iraq, Sept. 18, 2006 — - Iraqi officials insist that the government's security plan shows signs of success, but hundreds of thousands of Iraqis express a different view -- by leaving the region in hordes.

Baghdad's passport office is overrun with people trying to leave the country. On a recent afternoon, a car bomb went off just outside the gates, killing nine people.

Inside an official tried to calm the crowd, saying this happens all the time. The attack was one more reason for resident Kaiss Warash to want to leave Iraq.

I'm tired of life here, he said.

Visit bus stations in Iraq's capital and it's clear many feel the same as Warash. By some estimates, this is now the largest movement of refugees in the world today, with most of the fleeing people going to neighboring Syria and Jordan. And the pace of the movement has accelerated. In 2004, 213,000 Iraqis fled the country. Last year that number rose to 801,000.

There is persecution going on of religious minorities, of professionals … and of course Shia or Sunni, said Lavinia Limón of the U.S. Committee for Refugees and Immigrants. People are actually told if you don't leave we're going to kill you.

The drain is worst among professionals. An estimated 40 percent of the country's professionals have left, and Baghdad's main hospital is now experiencing a dangerous shortage of trauma surgeons.

Unemployed but Safe

Across Baghdad, in some areas quiet streets and vacant homes are an eerie testament to the exodus.

In Jordan entire neighborhoods of Iraqi refugees have sprung up. In Jordan they can walk the streets safely again, but many can't work legally.

One refugee told us, I don't have a job here … but there's nothing better than security.

And so many keep leaving, hoping some day it will be safe to come home.

Copyright © 2006 ABC News Internet Ventures

No kidding!
I belive the vet stated that someone spat on the ground near him.  This same vet has also had other incidents happen to him.  Kind of strange.  I guess accusations of spitting have been what is called an urban legend and been around since VIet Nam.
no kidding, you are right about that
My son heard some negative ads on the radio the other day and was telling me Obama did this or McCain is going to do that, and we had to have a talk about taking all of this with a grain of salt and about twisted half-truths. It's hard to get to the bottom of a lot of it. I really commend you for "I stand corrected." Not many people are willing to do that on either side.
You have got to be kidding!

Spreading false rumors - I thought junior high was over with!

Besides, it's far more probable that the Palin had the baby due to her age, rather than her young daughter.

Grow up, would ya?


Are you kidding me?
In my family....if there is a baby in the house....it is passed around like a game of pass the parcel.  We love babies and quite frankly they get heavy sometimes....and so you pass them to someone else to TAKE A BREAK FROM THE DEAD WEIGHT OF A SLEEPING BABY. SHEESH.  This isn't child abuse.  This is called sharing the love!
are you kidding me?????
Glenn Beck last night!