Does this mean Sarah gets another raise?...LOL
Posted By: Just the big bad on 2009-01-09
In Reply to: Fair Pay Act passes in House - jj
*Unlike President George W. Bush, who threatened to veto the two bills when they came up in the last session of Congress, President-elect Barack Obama has embraced them.*
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090109/ap_on_go_co/pay_equity
I can't wait to see who all opposes this bill. I hope they plaster them all over the news.
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Sarah Palin makes Sarah Palin look stupid!
The Democrats did not make Sarah Palin look stupid. Sarah Palin does a fine job of looking stupid without help from anyone. All she has to do is open her mouth!
Raise the cap for SS deductions.
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He will raise taxes for us all.
No way to set up these government programs of his without taking money from all of us.
He HAS to raise taxes, no way around it
All those programs will not appear out of thin air. He will grow government bigger than ever...new departments, more employees for those departments, more of my tax money blown to heck and back. People actually believe ALL this can be done with TAX CUTS!! They are in total denial.
This man have voted REPEATEDLY to NOT NOT NOT cut taxes every darn time it has come up and has pushed for tax INCREASES. For those nonbelievers, all they gotta do is go look at his voting record. It's there for the scrutinizing.
Read his lips.....
He knows people are running scared and he can zoom in and steal their good sense with telling them he will cut taxes. BUT, as soon as he is in office, it won't happen and who will he blame then? Everybody but himself!!! He will not take any responsiblity for that either.
That is exactly what he said. He wants to raise taxes...
on those making $250,000 or more so he can give a check to lower income folks...and a modest tax cut (while letting the Bush tax cuts expire) to the middle class. Have you looked at what we are going to lose if he lets those tax cuts expire? A whole lot more than his little tax cut will make up. He also needs the added taxation to try to help pay for all he wants to do...
The checks he is going to dole out are NOT for everyone. And they will even go to people who pay NO taxes.
THAT is rewarding laziness. That is NOT trying to help people better themselves. Would it not be better to get them a JOB than a one-time gimme check??
because they did not raise him and shape him into what he is -
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The UN is not trying to tell anyone how to raise their kids.
in the idea of addressing global poverty. BTW, you need to do a little boning up yourself on the purpose of the United Nations, what it is, how it works and who benefits before expecting anybody anywhere to engage you in any serious debate on this subject. You have been spending way too much time hanging with the fringe. Trust me on this. There is life after fringe.
Obama has said repeatedly he will RAISE
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F: Obama is going to raise MY taxes...
DH and I don't work hard to give to those who can't/don't/won't.
YES HE DID VOTE TO RAISE YOUR TAXES
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it doesn't take a union to get a pay raise
puhleez lighten up. I do not and will not support unions. At first unions were good. then they got too large and too powerful, corrupt and greedy, and unions were no longer a good thing. They stopped working for the people they were supposed to represent and started working for the benefit of the union itself. My father worked for a company where he had to be in the union. That union wanted more and more of the company (as they always did). Even though many, many of the employees voted against strike, some people did, and the union declared the strike and people walked off their jobs. My dad wanted to work; he was physically assaulted and our car destroyed when he tried to work. Don't call my father a "scab." He was a fine man raising three kids and wanting to work at his own job, which he loved and was proud of. Period. The strike lasted a long time, and the company finally closed its doors when the union would not concede to anything. All of the employees lost their jobs whether they were union supporters or not because of the actions of that union. Now that's why I don't like unions and never will. There used to be a large manufacturing sector here in the midwest. Unions destroyed much of it. They just keep demanding more and more, and many companies simply closed, thus placing 1000s on unemployment. And do you honestly think corruption in the union is okay as long as "he also benefitted American workers?" I never belonged to a union as an MT for 30'some years, and do you think I never got a raise? The hospitals and companies I worked for always paid well and we didn't need a union to do it for us. Actually, I think fear of unions was one of the reasons why. But let's not forget this, union membership is often mandatory so people who work for the organization are forced to be members whether they want to or not. That right there is just wrong. People outside of the union are denied the right to work in many areas. So don't tell me what to "b**ch about." The two items are no mutually inclusive. One can say that their pay has fallen behind and still not want a union involved. Have a little respect for opinions other than yours.
Congress gets a raise - must be nice!
Kudos to Harry Mitchell and the other 34 who at least tried.
From TheHill.com
12/17/08
A crumbling economy, more than 2 million constituents who have lost their jobs this year, and congressional demands of CEOs to work for free did not convince lawmakers to freeze their own pay.
Instead, they will get a $4,700 pay increase, amounting to an additional $2.5 million that taxpayers will spend on congressional salaries, and watchdog groups are not happy about it.
“As lawmakers make a big show of forcing auto executives to accept just $1 a year in salary, they are quietly raiding the vault for their own personal gain,” said Daniel O’Connell, chairman of The Senior Citizens League (TSCL), a non-partisan group. “This money would be much better spent helping the millions of seniors who are living below the poverty line and struggling to keep their heat on this winter.”
However, at 2.8 percent, the automatic raise that lawmakers receive is only half as large as the 2009 cost of living adjustment of Social Security recipients.
Still, Steve Ellis, vice president of the budget watchdog Taxpayers for Common Sense, said Congress should have taken the rare step of freezing its pay, as lawmakers did in 2000.
“Look at the way the economy is and how most people aren’t counting on a holiday bonus or a pay raise — they’re just happy to have gainful employment,” said Ellis. “But you have the lawmakers who are set up and ready to get their next installment of a pay raise and go happily along their way.”
Member raises are often characterized as examples of wasteful spending, especially when many constituents and businesses in members’ districts are in financial despair.
Rep. Harry Mitchell, a first-term Democrat from Arizona, sponsored legislation earlier this year that would have prevented the automatic pay adjustments from kicking in for members next year. But the bill, which attracted 34 cosponsors, failed to make it out of committee.
“They don’t even go through the front door. They have it set up so that it’s wired so that you actually have to undo the pay raise rather than vote for a pay raise,” Ellis said.
Freezing congressional salaries is hardly a new idea on Capitol Hill.
Lawmakers have floated similar proposals in every year dating back to 1995, and long before that. Though the concept of forgoing a raise has attracted some support from more senior members, it is most popular with freshman lawmakers, who are often most vulnerable.
In 2006, after the Republican-led Senate rejected an increase to the minimum wage, Democrats, who had just come to power in the House with a slew of freshmen, vowed to block their own pay raise until the wage increase was passed. The minimum wage was eventually increased and lawmakers received their automatic pay hike.
In the beginning days of 1789, Congress was paid only $6 a day, which would be about $75 daily by modern standards. But by 1965 members were receiving $30,000 a year, which is the modern equivalent of about $195,000.
Currently the average lawmaker makes $169,300 a year, with leadership making slightly more. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) makes $217,400, while the minority and majority leaders in the House and Senate make $188,100.
Ellis said that while freezing the pay increase would be a step in the right direction, it would be better to have it set up so that members would have to take action, and vote, for a pay raise and deal with the consequences, rather than get one automatically.
“It is probably never going to be politically popular to raise Congress’s salary,” he said. “I don’t think you’re going to find taxpayers saying, ‘Yeah I think I should pay my congressman more’.”
Problem is, the taxes Obama does raise
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Yeah, and now put Obama in there to raise taxes
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Bottom line....O will raise DH and my taxes, sorry, it's not for
those who are lazy. Try working hard for a change and not expecting the gov't to give you a handout for once. WAAAH, please pay for my healthcare, pay for my kid's college, help me out because I don't want to take responibility for myself, I would rather let the gov't do it all and then when it doesn;t work out, I can blame them too. When O wins I can't wait to see this board in a year with all the people complaining about the broken promises, higher taxes, etc. It will be worth the wait.
Why do you think that Hillary and McCain did not raise the B/C issue?
Do you think maybe it is because there was no merit to it and everyone knew it? The people who were most directly affected by it are not saying anything about it - the other presidential candidates...
So, honest opinion, why are they not whooping and hollering?
She cannot possibly raise that child and utilize her master's, though,
Certainly you'd never encourage your daughter to spend time working on a MASTER'S while trying to also raise a child!! You've just bashed another mother for doing something similar, so I don't get it. Or is okay if you only have ONE child or what? Please fill me in on the double standard you uphold.
What the chart shows is that Obama is going to raise taxes on the people....
who employ the people in the other brackets. Trickle down will not be beneficial. What is wrong with giving the middle class a break? They are already supporting most of the lower class anyway. THe lower class already pay next to nothing in taxes. Oh I forgot...economic parity, redistribution of wealth....good old Marxist values.
Roland Burris aknowledes trying to raise money for Blago
He claimed there was nothing going on but he just dropped the bombshell as O was speaking stating he can recall 6 different contacts and is now under investigation.
Guess he's gonna be gone. He may have committed perjury.
I'll double that 'amen', and I'll raise you one!
amen
is that you Sarah?
Finished with your good friend "Charlie" already and now here to share your words of wisdom?
Go Sarah!!!! ....sm
If SNL is spoofing her, they must think she's a major contender.
Yippee.....
By the way, I haven't seen SNL since the early years, is it any good anymore? Have they spoofed Obama yet?
Or are they giving him a walk, as most liberal type show/media things are doing?
(I can't play this, as my flash player is old....oh well....I'm sure it was funny, in a derogatory type of way, if you ladies enjoyed it that much.....)
let Sarah
take his place in debate with Barack Obama.
Let Sarah be Sarah....sm
She's the bright ray of hope in this election. She's the one REAL person out there on either ticket.
If they just let Sarah be Sarah, she will just bowl over Joe Biden tomorrow night.
I bet she will too.
She's got the most common sense, and right now, we need someone who is just like us, representing us, in Washington.
I'd vote for her over McCain in a second....wish like heck she was at the top of the ticket, because she is, the real deal. No doubt in my mind whatsoever.
You mean like Sarah in the
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So Sarah will have a son-in-law...
...and a mother-out-law.
John McCain can't even bring himself to endorse her now, which I think is the funniest thing of all.
thanks Sarah
real patriotic idears you keep regurgitating to keep your name in the news.
Yes, and I believe Sarah is a least a US citizen.
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Sarah Palin
Sarah Palin has just announced her 17-year-old daughter is pregnant and will be marrying the baby's father!
Sarah Palin was asking because
the voters were concerned about the language in some of them and felt it inappropriate for their children. This was to help keep bad language away from children. Not get rid of them because a certain race, nationality, etc. wrote them. The Nazis burned books written by Jews. This is entirely different.
As for my supposed untruth about Obama being Muslim at one time:
Obama's Kenyan birth father: In Islam, religion passes from the father to the child. Barack Hussein Obama, Sr.
Obama's Indonesian family: His stepfather, Lolo Soetoro, was also a Muslim. In fact, as Obama's half-sister, Maya Soetoro-Ng explained to Jodi Kantor of the New York Times: "My whole family was Muslim, and most of the people I knew were Muslim." An Indonesian publication, the Banjarmasin Post reports a former classmate, Rony Amir, recalling that "All the relatives of Barry's father were very devout Muslims."
The Catholic school: Nedra Pickler of the Associated Press reports that "documents showed he enrolled as a Muslim" while at a Catholic school during first through third grades. Kim Barker of the Chicago Tribune confirms that Obama was "listed as a Muslim on the registration form for the Catholic school."
Koran class: In his autobiography, Dreams of My Father, Obama relates how he got into trouble for making faces during Koranic studies, thereby revealing he was a Muslim, for Indonesian students in his day attended religious classes according to their faith.
Mosque attendance: Obama's half-sister recalled that the family attended the mosque "for big communal events." Watson learned from childhood friends that "Obama sometimes went to Friday prayers at the local mosque." Barker found that "Obama occasionally followed his stepfather to the mosque for Friday prayers." One Indonesia friend, Zulfin Adi, states that Obama "was Muslim. He went to the mosque. I remember him wearing a sarong" (a garment associated with Muslims).
This along with his association with sketchy people including Ayers and his 20-year attendance to a church that promotes hates messages.....I feel I am justly right to be concerned about Obama and have reason to not trust him one iota.
Cool....go Sarah!!! sm
http://freedomeden.blogspot.com/2008/09/sarah-palin-and-charlie-gibson.html
Go Sarah and Joe!!! Go McCain...All the way to the
Go ahead and call 'em gimmicks if y'all want.
They're the real deal, and a lot of real Americans embrace them.
Sarah Palin says:
“And that’s cruel and it’s mean-spirited, it’s immature, it’s unprofessional, and those guys are jerks, if they came away with it taking things out of context and then tried to spread something on national news. It is not fair and not right.” Hmmm...
Who is Sarah and what are idears
My actual name is Mary. I have never used Mary and the last time I posted something on this board was the middle of December. Think around the 15th or 16th when I replied to someone, and the last time I wrote an original message was the beginning of December. It would serve you well to think before you acuse someone of something.
You don't like my post, fine, that's one thing. But to acuse someone of doing whatever it is your acusing me of, well that's just a bit arrogant on your part. Your reply was a bit confusing too. Were you cutting me down because you don't like that I don't use my real name (never have and never will - get over it) or you didn't like my idea. And if I wanted to keep my name in the news, wouldn't I be posting with same name over and over and over.
I particularly like the idea of the US dividing into separate countries. Especially with a lot of the posters on this board. I've never seen so many people who are willing to destroy our country and everything our country was founded upon and I would prefer not to live in the same country as they do without actually having to move. I don't agree in socialism. They do. Therefore by keeping their president and his socialistic viewpoints they can have him, love him, worship him, and dance around in circles every day while he's in office. I'd rather have a president that shares the same values as a lot of people like me do.
So...back to my original idea. It would serve you well not to assume things from now on, as you know what they say about people who assume.
Who is Sarah and what are idears
My actual name is Mary. I have never used Mary and the last time I posted something on this board was the middle of December. Think around the 15th or 16th when I replied to someone, and the last time I wrote an original message was the beginning of December. It would serve you well to think before you acuse someone of something.
You don't like my post, fine, that's one thing. But to acuse someone of doing whatever it is your acusing me of, well that's just a bit arrogant on your part. Your reply was a bit confusing too. Were you cutting me down because you don't like that I don't use my real name (never have and never will - get over it) or you didn't like my idea. And if I wanted to keep my name in the news, wouldn't I be posting with same name over and over and over.
I particularly like the idea of the US dividing into separate countries. Especially with a lot of the posters on this board. I've never seen so many people who are willing to destroy our country and everything our country was founded upon and I would prefer not to live in the same country as they do without actually having to move. I don't agree in socialism. They do. Therefore by keeping their president and his socialistic viewpoints they can have him, love him, worship him, and dance around in circles every day while he's in office. I'd rather have a president that shares the same values as a lot of people like me do.
So...back to my original idea. It would serve you well not to assume things from now on, as you know what they say about people who assume.
Sarah was pointed out....(sm)
because a) it was funny; b) she is a female; and c) she herself just got a raise (by a committee she formed for just that purpose) just since the election while Alaska is taking a big hit financially because the price of oil went down.
Sarah is still campaigning...(sm)
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jan/28/sarah-palin-political-action-committee
I soooo hope she runs in 2012. How about Rush/Palin 2012.....ROFL....
So what if Sarah complains, BB.
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One more reason I like Sarah Palin....
....I betcha she makes a mean batch of cookies...
(and I won't say who doesn't, but I'm sure you all know)
I just read that Sarah Palin sm
sued Bush, etc., over making the Polar bears endangered species because it will hurt oil drilling. Has anyone else heard or read this? (Maybe it is old news and has been discussed here. I have been out of town and thankfully aware from my computer for the last day and a half.) If this is true than I am appalled. I guess she is not so new the whole for big oil thing and all. Most hunters and fishermen that I know want to help protect the environment.
I know she is anti-abortion, but did not know until just recently that she is also anti-abortion for cases of rape and incest. I think that is very extreme. Though, to be quite honest, I do think in most rape cases you are given the morning after pill.
The more I read and learn, the less I am liking. I was kind of excited at first.
If it is so important, where was it before Sarah Palin...
entered the race? Come on. You are trying to somehow add validity to making a 17-year-old political fodder. Now, after the cat is out of the bag, the political spin is being put on it. Go ahead and put the focus there...no one is going to be fooled by this. People who engage it in are still going to look like what they are.
Sarah Palin is gold!!!!!!!
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Savaging Sarah Palin...
http://news.yahoo.com/s/uc/20080903/cm_uc_crbbox/op_237245
Fine, put Sarah in his place. She has more
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You would think Sarah Palin is running for the top
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Why do they hate Sarah Palin so?........sm
Hi there. Very thoughtful and intelligent questions you're asking. I'm going to post the following column I found, that explains this phenomenon very clearly, I think.
http://townhall.com/columnists/AndrewTallman/2008/09/09/why_do_they_hate_sarah_palin_so?page=full&comments=true
Why do they hate Sarah Palin so?
by Andrew Tallman
I assume it is unnecessary to answer the logically prior question of whether or not they hate Sarah Palin. The level of vitriol flung at her over the past week and a half by critics in every liberal outlet ranging from The New York Times to Air America is particularly awe-inspiring given that this is all the longer they’ve even known her name. Ordinarily, such hatred takes years to cultivate. The force and acceleration of their vehemence virtually demands psychoanalysis. Since this sport is in vogue, I’ll give my diagnostic skills a shot at the trophy.
Preface: There Is a Pathology
The natural first reaction of a Palin-hater to this column is to deny the hatred. They will say it’s her politics, her religion, or possibly the whiff of scandal some have managed to ladle upon her. But if they’re honest with themselves, they’ll have to admit three simple facts.
First, the reasons they give aren’t the reasons they hate. If they didn’t have these, they’d manufacture others. There’s an old story about a man asking to borrow his neighbor’s lawn mower and being told, “No, I’m making potato soup.” “What does that have to do with me borrowing your lawn mower?” the incredulous man replies. “Nothing, but if I don’t want to loan you my lawn mower, one excuse is just as good as another.” Likewise, Governor Palin is not hated because of whatever reasons they offer. These are afterthoughts to an animosity which is embarrassed to admit it was born prior to reason. Hence, refuting them will prove futile.
Second, even those who persist in asserting such reasons as their motive will have to admit that all of them put together still can’t justify the disproportionate vigor of their attacks upon her. To use an aging phrase, this is the politics of personal destruction; a nuclear response to what their own arguments admit is a merely conventional threat.
Third, no one can hate this deeply this quickly. Conservatives generally despise certain political figures such as Bill Clinton, Teddy Kennedy and John Paul Stevens. But it’s taken us years, sometimes decades to detest these people. Similarly for liberals, contempt only begins to describe their feelings toward George W. Bush, Rick Santorum, and Antonin Scalia. But, again, at least such a sentiment has developed over time. It took Sarah Palin less than a week to receive treatment these men have taken years to earn. Such an immediate mauling of someone’s character says far more about the predators than about their prey.
So, what explains this pathology? I have two mutually compatible theories.
Theory 1: The Cult of Personality
Barack Obama is the left’s messiah. Their hopes, their dreams and even their patriotism are at this point invested in him. He cannot be criticized. He cannot be joked about. And he most certainly cannot be mocked. All such response to him (perfectly normal with any other politician) is viewed as blasphemy rather than politics. Not only is the left salvifically invested in him, they secretly fear they have been too rash to the altar call. Calm reflection proves Barack Obama isn’t ready to be president yet, but who can resist the hope beyond hope that he’s more than just a golden voice reading a teleprompter?
So when little Sarah Palin comes along and castigates him with condescending satire, they react as any devastated schoolgirl with a crush would. Her speech stated every major flaw with his candidacy. Not just honestly, but with a Reagenesque comedic flair. And since their deepest fear is that everything she said about him is right, the only option to reconsidering their betrothal was to destroy her.
It’s pretty simple. If we disagree, you correct me. If I am silly, you ignore me. But if I articulate your own fears in attacking something you cherish irrationally, you excoriate me … as cover. As Robert Pirsig explained in his lovely novel on motorcycle maintenance, no one jumps up and down screaming that the sun will rise tomorrow. Highly emotional responses indicate fear and uncertainty, not the opposite.
Sarah Palin’s on-target reductio of Barack Obama turned their messiah into a joke, earning the very predictable treatment a heretic deserves. Disabusing people of a savored fantasy always does.
Theory 2: Her Non-Feminist Feminism
I used to marvel at the rudeness so often publicly shown to parents with many children. But then I saw how the very existence of such families exposes the guilt and self-doubt others feel about their own decisions to stop having children. The surest way to avoid dealing with these stifled concerns is to assault the character or intelligence of parents who dare to expose them with their large families.
So, too with Sarah Palin and the left. Her very life rebukes them.
She has five children, two of them after the age of 40. When her infant son was diagnosed with Down syndrome, she chose life. And when her own daughter was discovered pregnant, she helped her choose life, too. Without ever saying a word about being pro-life (to say it would have been superfluous), she demolished all the common arguments used in favor of abortion and family planning, totemic doctrines of the left.
But it’s more than just doctrine. It’s that so many people on the left have condoned abortions, helped others obtain abortions, or even had abortions themselves in the very same circumstances under which Sarah Palin chose life. Honest people are an affront to liars. Law-abiders are an affront to criminals. And the woman who has made pro-life “choices” is a stinging affront to modern feminism, which has spent decades trying to convince women that an unwanted pregnancy is like a disease and the unborn child something like a parasite.
They must demonize her because her choices so clearly condemn their own. Make no mistake, when your example disproves someone else’s deeply internalized rationalizations, they will try to destroy you. After all, the only other option would be to repent.
Conclusion
In “Beyond Good and Evil,” Nietzsche said, “Anyone who has looked deeply into the world may guess how much wisdom lies in the superficiality of men … let nobody doubt that whoever stands that much in need of the cult of surfaces must at some time have reached beneath them with disastrous results.” His critique of religion so perfectly fits probamaism that one is forced to conclude the latter is but a new flavor of the former.
There may be other pathologies at play here, but these explain both the left’s tsunamic response and why it struck last Thursday morning. It was the speech, stupid.
Probably because SNL is where Sarah Palin belongs. n/m
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Sarah Palin has only to be herself to be disliked. sm
She needs no help from anyone. She, by her own merits and lack thereof, is a despicable unacceptable candidate that insults all women by her having only the genitals in common with us, yet we are expected to say OH JOY, a woman rising to the top. Well not if it's Bush in a skirt "my friends." My fellow Americans, this is BS. No Palin no palin no palin. If we have a woman rise to the top of our government, let it be a woman who votes for equal pay for women, not against it like McCain voted. Let it be a woman who believes in a woman's right over her own body. I could go on and on. You all know the truth. Palin ruined McCain's chances, not that he had a lot. He also hurt himself by putting on that hero cape and flying to Washington to save the economy and looking like a fool.
His grimaces and groans during the debates really hurt him too.
Not to mention his 90 percent agreement with Bushonomics and policies.
Pathetic my friends.
Sarah Palin is great! -and she sure gets under the
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Sarah is not a hypocrite....and if you understood...
socialism you would see the gaping difference. Every person in Alaska gets a check. Including the rich. Alaska is not taxing some citizens at a higher rate to redistribute their wealth to less wealthy Alaskans, even some who do not even pay taxes.
Big difference.
Share the wealth can mean a lot of things. Obama was very clear with Joe the Plumber. He wants to redistribute Joe the Plumber's wealth to other people. He said so. Not eVERY person in America. Just the "people below Joe." THAT is socialism.
See the difference?
Sarah Palin said it. We already addressed this.
That is not socialism. Key words..."Alaskans." Not just poor Alaskans. Not just middle class Alaskans. ALL Alaskans. Not predicated on how much money you make or don't make. Completely fair. She could have funneled all that money into the government to be doled out to whoever she saw fit (like Obama wants to do). Instead, she said EVERY Alaskan gets a piece of the pie. That is so FAR removed from socialism it ain't funny.
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