Does the behavior on this board not kinda...

• On CNN this morning, John McCain picked...sm - oldtimer
  • Sure starting to look like she wasn't fully vetted and chosen last minute as a token female...nm - read that 2
    • You obviously have access to the internet... - See message
      • I have been doing research...here's just one of the MANY places I get SOME info...sm - read that 2
        • That's not the reasearch I'm talking about. - See message
        • Doing research at the Huffpost is like... - sm
          • Sure she was fine with you until she wised up - and switched parties. She make valid points..sm
          • I expected that so where do you all get your info...please share so ...sm - read that 2
            • try Media Matters - Sandy
            • meant to say "NOT" the ONLY place I go to..NM - oops
    • It's all in the interpretation. :) nm - sam
      • That's very true - Tired MT
  • apparently - Minos
    • That is if you can believe everything you read on the news. - I sure as heck don't. sm
      • actually - Minos
        • You seem to have your mind made up - and of course...
        • Either side can fail to deliver on promises. My only hope and prayer is that - the new POTUS improves this country. sm
          • Great post - and many excellent points
          • Wow...good post. Lots of valid questions... - sam
            • Your post was also very good. I - Backwards typist
              • well, the one thing that the VP has is... - sam
          • reply - Minos
            • I've looked at Barack's voting record, though, and don't see that. - I wish I did, truly. sm
              • words from your post - Sandy
                • Yes, take those words out of context and use them. Right, no flame whatsoever. - Already said not interested in McCain.sm
                  • i pulled theme - Sandy
            • It seems "Barack" takes credit for a lot and blame for nothing. - POTUS is not listening to "Barack."
              • And you know this how? Cite sources. Give stats. - Status should be recent. sm
                • oil companies - Sandy
                  • May we just keep in mind that these.... - sam
        • Oil companies employ people too... - sam
      • news - Minos
        • Opinions count. Nothing wrong in researching them as long as - Equal time, consideration given to all views. nm
          • No problem with that, as long as opinion is not regarded as fact... - sam
            • Agreed. And when it does mislead - Should be exposed and discounted. nm
              • Agree completely. nm - sam
        • Nice post. Stick to the facts and away from... - sam
        • Oh gee...that sounds like too much - FYI
          • Yep, the above-mentioned was just put on MSNBC. Hardly digging deep for - the news, which was my point. Better sources .. sm
    • If teens don't know how to obtain bc pills in this day--- - They also know how to get abortion if they want on
      • teenagers - Minos
        • Conservatives are for control over their own children and less control by govt - Simple fact - whether sex ed, or whatever.
          • BTW, I have two sons, but I did teach them about sex - and abstinance...sm
        • The left has decided to make it about the teenager... - sam
          • What facts support that the "left" exposed this news as you say? - It was in the media, but where do you..sm
            • Consider this - but do your research
              • Of course, the Hillary blog has the all - What?
                • Sorry, I mistakenly thought we were adult enough - to have a discussion. sm
            • No, not at all...it started on the far left rag... - sam
              • Barack can't control what media says/does with the stories. - That's my point. Don't want to see..sm
                • I did NOT imply that his camp started it.... - sam
              • So you don't think a right-winger - FYI
                • That could happen - but...
                  • Another reason not to watch FOX! LOL - Down with FOX News
                    • You would not want to be silencing the only ... - sam
                • No, I haven't considered it, and the people who own dailykos... - sam
            • apparently - Minos
              • Does the behavior on this board not kinda... - sam
    • With all due respect.... - sam
  • His campaign has released several statements - sm
  • She was vetted several months ago, back when she made his short list. - Talking heads just read what's in front of them
  • Don't believe that. - sam

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Down below somebody cites lack of opportunity as a reason for blacks in American having a high incarceration rate...  Well, yes, that's one piece of the pie.  I say that ALL of the reason can be traced to the rampant fatherlessness in the black community, where 69% of all black children in this country are born to a single mother.  Everything else from A to Z can be derived from the broken family syndrome.  But of course this has nothing to do with race other than than the statistic above.  Whites and Hispanice from the same social situation suffer the same fate described below.

WHAT HAPPENS TO CHILDREN DEPRIVED OF THEIR NATURAL FATHERS

Compared to children in male-headed traditional families where their
natural parents are married to each other, children living in
female-headed single-parent, lesbian or other environments where they are
deprived of their natural fathers are:

1. Eight times more likely to go to prison.
2. Five times more likely to commit suicide.
3. Twenty times more likely to have behavioral problems.
4. Twenty times more likely to become rapists.
5. 32 times more likely to run away.
6. Ten times more likely to abuse chemical substances.
7. Nine times more likely to drop out of high school.
8. 33 times more likely to be seriously abused.
9. 73 times more likely to be fatally abused.
10. One-tenth as likely to get A's in school.
11. On average have a 44% higher mortality rate.
12. On average have a 72% lower standard of living.

• 85% of all children that exhibit behavioral disorders come from fatherless homes.
  
  
  
• 90% of all homeless and runaway children are from fatherless homes.
  
  
  
• 71% of all high school dropouts come from fatherless homes.
  
  
  
• 75% of all adolescent patients in chemical abuse centers come from fatherless homes.
  
  
  
• 63% of youth suicides are from fatherless homes.
  
  
  
• 80% of rapists motivated with displaced anger come from fatherless homes.
  
  
  
• 70% of juveniles in state-operated institutions come from fatherless homes.
  
  
  
• 85% of all youths sitting in prisons grew up in a fatherless home.
  
  
  
• California has the nation's highest juvenile incarceration rate and the nation's highest juvenile unemployment rate.
  
  
  
• Juveniles have become the driving force behind the national increase in violent crime; the epidemic of youth violence and gangs is related to the breakdown of the two-parent family.
  
  
  
• 71% of teenage pregnancies are to children of single parents. Daughters of single parents are 2.1 times more likely to have children during their teenage years than are daughters from intact families. Daughters of single parents are 53% more likely to marry as teenagers, 164% more likely to have a premarital birth, and 92% more likely to dissolve their own marriages. All these intergenerational consequences of single motherhood increase the likelihood of chronic welfare dependency.
  
  
  
• In 1983, a study found that 60% of perpetrators of child abuse were women with sole custody. Shared parenting can significantly reduce the stress associated with sole custody, and reduce the isolation of children in abusive situations by allowing both parents' to monitor the children's health and welfare and to protect them.
  
  
  
• 18 million children live in single-parent homes. Nearly 75% of American children living in single-parent families will experience poverty before they turn 11. Only 20% in two-parent families will experience poverty.
  
  
  
• The feminization of poverty is linked to the feminization of custody, as well as linked to lower earnings for women. Greater opportunity for education and jobs through shared parenting can help break the cycle.
  
  
  
• Kidnapping: family abductions were 163,200 compared to non-family abductions of 200 to 300, attributed to the parents' disenchantment with the legal system.

From the Conservative board.

The toxicity has become so potent that some of the cooler heads on the Left are starting to notice. Richard Cohen, writing in his Washington Post column  today, describes his email, traffic after a mildly critical reference to Stephen Colbert’s unfunny performance at the White House Correspondents Dinner:

It seemed that most of my correspondents had been egged on to write me by various blogs. In response, they smartly assembled into a digital lynch mob and went roaring after me. If I did not like Colbert, I must like Bush. If I write for The Post, I must be a mainstream media warmonger. If I was over a certain age—which I am—I am simply out of it, wherever “it” may be. All in all, I was—I am, and I guess I remain—the worthy object of ignorant, false and downright idiotic vituperation. [….]

But the message in this case truly is the medium. The e-mails pulse in my queue, emanating raw hatred. This spells trouble—not for Bush or, in 2008, the next GOP presidential candidate, but for Democrats. The anger festering on the Democratic left will be taken out on the Democratic middle. (Watch out, Hillary!) I have seen this anger before—back in the Vietnam War era. That’s when the antiwar wing of the Democratic Party helped elect Richard Nixon. In this way, they managed to prolong the very war they so hated.

The hatred is back. I know it’s only words now appearing on my computer screen, but the words are so angry, so roiled with rage, that they are the functional equivalent of rocks once so furiously hurled during antiwar demonstrations.

So it's only okay when you do it?

Who has lost thousands of subscriptions over that so-called piece about the sex and lies.  Both Megyn Kelly & Laura Ingraham made that loon look even more stupid than he was.  But it's so easy to do.  All one needs to do is take their words and hand them right back to them.  Gets 'em every time.

I don't give any party a free pass, tho.  I have more respect for my own self than that!

would campaign for a known unqualified person for the presidency.  I do imagine they wll get around that though one way or the other.  He is just what we need for president.  NOT. 

It should be interesting.  I just wonder what kind of deal was "really" made between Obama and Hillary.  Unless I miss my best guess she isn't going to play second fiddle to anyone. 

nm

Saves some money and if I put them down, they go out instead of burning away. I had my first carton of 'em last week. Took 7 days for that carton. Sunday I started my second carton. I'm almost through that one today because it's not a "puff and light."

Some day....

some respect?

You publicly post on the other board that you *try not to visit the bog of eternal stench.*

Well, doesn't look like you are trying all that hard. Or is that another example of Conservative honesty, like your buddy on the other board lies 3 times before suddenly deciding to be *up front* (in her own words) about the whole bogus line of crap she was spouting.

You and your 2 friends don't respect anyone unless they're a member of your little club, think exactly as you think, belong to the same political party as you belong, and believe in the very same little narrow SUBsection of one particular religion.

That's what I interpret from YOUR WRITTEN WORDS.  Your posts don't show respect.  They only show twisted *facts*, ignorance, anger and hatred.

You can't be *respectful* on your own board but suddenly, when you come here - HERE - the place YOU call *the bog of eternal stench* you suddenly discover some respectability during your mouse click from there to here?

Please.  Some of us aren't as stupid as you think we are.

You're becoming quite a bore.  You and your friends stated you don't want us on your board, but you're not happy unless you're picking a fight.  You and your *gang* told us to leave and not to post on *your* board.  Maybe that should work both ways.

Out of ALL the problems with radical Conservatives, maybe the most annoying thing is that you don't believe in equality at all.  You believe in SUPERIORITY.  Somewhere along the line, someone made you think you were special and above everyone else.  Sheesh!  You're not happy unless you're dictating to everyone else in the country what they're allowed to do in their own personal lives regarding life, death, science, etc. You even think YOUR GOD IS BETTER than everyone else's.

You want to make the rules, censor people and tell them which boards they can and cannot post on, but YOU want to invade them all and spew your ignorance and hatred. 

In my heart, I believe there are sincere, honest, intelligent Conservatives out there who are capable of a sensible debate.  I've seen them.  (I hope you don't chase them away, too.)  But and your crew don't fall in that category, and this will be the last of your inane posts I will subject myself to.

Talk about stench. Just read your very own posts.

Can we get the political board back to the true purpose of this board – to share opinions of why we like our candidate.  Not bash and cut down others because they don’t agree with you.

I stayed away from this board for the past couple days because anyone who had anything positive to say about Sarah Palin got slammed, bashed, kicked down, etc.  After awhile I found it all too draining, and was not seeing any reason to come.  Yes, I did see some of it towards people who favored Barack Obama, but if you read the posts again it is mostly towards anyone who favored Sarah Palin/John McCain.

I thought the political board was for posting information regarding politics and candidates.  What I have seen for the past few days is that it has been an attack board.  Especially if you have anything positive you want to share about Sarah Palin.  You say something good about her and you get attacked, you answer back, and you get attacked more, and then when you get mad and pretty much say stop attacking me, they come back with this “Geez, I’m allowed to have an opinion”.

Another thing I am tired of seeing is the slanderous, hate filled, really off the wall comments about Sarah Palin.  The latest was something about her daughter actually had her baby.  Talk about just bizarre comments.  I thought what’s next, she’s an alien from another planet?  The more I kept reading the more the comments were getting just really weird and bizarre.  Of course nobody ever having any proof of any of these allegations.  I then came to realize that the posters were just trying to get a fight going.

I also saw posts that had nothing to do with politics but attacking a poster named Sam.  Again, probably trying to get another fight going for no good reason and on things that have nothing to do whatsoever with politics.  I’ve read “Sam is like an annoying nat that you sway away”, “Sam, please let me know where you work” or “she must have her quota” or “sam is to the politics board as oracle is to the”  This childish rhetoric is getting old.  I’m not defending sam she is a big girl and I can see by her posts she can take care of herself, but my point is that this has nothing to do with politics.  If you want a fight maybe you could request that the administrator create a separate “fight and degrade” section.

I’ve read the administrators post a couple different times called Beware of Flaming.  She/he said as long as we realize that not everyone is going to agree we shouldn’t wear our feelings on our sleeves and a little more oversight on here would be good.  Let people express his or her opinion and move on.  If you don’t like someone just ignore that person. “It’s not rocket science, you know” (I liked that statement)

I consider posting on this board a privilege and not a right.  If you don’t agree with something and you post that you don’t agree and state the facts why (and are civilized about it) that’s one thing, but when you bash and degrade others without showing proof and just want to start fights and belittle others it just seems a bit juvenile to me.

I come to the politics board to hear ideas and stuff (facts) about the candidates.  That is how I’m learning about each one, but I don’t want to read people attack other posters for no good reason.  I'd like to hear about Obama/Biden & McCain/Palin, but I want to hear facts.

If you like to fight so much why don’t you pick on people that you can fight to face to face. 

Please keep all religious/faith topics and discussions on the Faith board.  This would involve your beliefs, whether Christian or atheist, etc. 

The Politics board is strictly for political topics and discussions. 

Moderator

no other comments will be made by me other than to straighten out the fact that I'm not posting here anymore.